The Karen meme silences White women

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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You replied to my comment. So nope, I didn’t provide a definition. Reread the definitions you posted, it’s very clear Karen isn’t aimed at strong women. It’s aimed at a certain women who is entitled, overly aggressive, disrespectful and wants to speak with a manager when not given her way.

What you're missing is this spreads to every woman who is behaving in a way someone doesn't like. You don't understand how that works? It's used to control women.

You don't think the soccer team needs matching team water bottles? Stop being a Karen.

You asked for decaf, we gave you caf, and now you want to exchange it? What a Karen.

You don't think I should be letting my cat wander around eating birds in your yard? You're a total Karen.

Agree. It's like calling a woman a ho or slut because she's promiscuous. There's really no male equivalent for ho because it's not considered shameful for men to sleep around. Similarly, there is no Karen equivalent for a man because it is not considered shameful for a man to speak up or assert himself; on the contrary, this is considered the epitome of maleness in our culture. Karening is an attempt to shame women into silence, like the modern day equivalent of a shrew's fiddle or a scold's bridle. Since women can no longer be pilloried or physically tortured for speaking up, they are called names for stepping out of the bounds of what society deems appropriate female behavior and acting more like men.

Men have double standards applied to them as well. You don’t recognize this because you are so utterly consumed with your persecution/victim complex that your ability to empathize with other people is impaired. Look at how you constantly project needlessly sinister and violent intentions onto other people as if they are simplistic cartoon villains who have no existence beyond tormenting you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the OP, not a troll. And an example of when I might have spoken in the past but did not recently. I ordered curbside pick up from a local smoothie shop a few weeks ago, before we were in phase 1 opening, the restaurant was advertising curbside Pick-up. I ordered my smoothie online, however, When I drove to the shop to pick it up there are a line of people inside the store to order and a line waiting (Inside as well) at the counter to pick up their smoothies. A year ago if this happened, pre-Karen meme, I would have said something along the lines of aren’t we supposed to be doing curbside? Why is everybody in the store? This time I just walked away.

FOLKS FOLKS FOLKS

Sorry I’ve been gone a couple days and just saw this thread. I see it is now 50+ pages and I can only IMAGINE what has transpired (bobcat level?) given this singular post from page 1.

Entertainment for weeks as I skim the pages. Yesss

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You replied to my comment. So nope, I didn’t provide a definition. Reread the definitions you posted, it’s very clear Karen isn’t aimed at strong women. It’s aimed at a certain women who is entitled, overly aggressive, disrespectful and wants to speak with a manager when not given her way.

What you're missing is this spreads to every woman who is behaving in a way someone doesn't like. You don't understand how that works? It's used to control women.

You don't think the soccer team needs matching team water bottles? Stop being a Karen.

You asked for decaf, we gave you caf, and now you want to exchange it? What a Karen.

You don't think I should be letting my cat wander around eating birds in your yard? You're a total Karen.

Agree. It's like calling a woman a ho or slut because she's promiscuous. There's really no male equivalent for ho because it's not considered shameful for men to sleep around. Similarly, there is no Karen equivalent for a man because it is not considered shameful for a man to speak up or assert himself; on the contrary, this is considered the epitome of maleness in our culture. Karening is an attempt to shame women into silence, like the modern day equivalent of a shrew's fiddle or a scold's bridle. Since women can no longer be pilloried or physically tortured for speaking up, they are called names for stepping out of the bounds of what society deems appropriate female behavior and acting more like men.

Men have double standards applied to them as well. You don’t recognize this because you are so utterly consumed with your persecution/victim complex that your ability to empathize with other people is impaired. Look at how you constantly project needlessly sinister and violent intentions onto other people as if they are simplistic cartoon villains who have no existence beyond tormenting you.

Nobody needs to make anything up about intentions. Just look what happened to OP.

You sound very angry. Time for a walk?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You replied to my comment. So nope, I didn’t provide a definition. Reread the definitions you posted, it’s very clear Karen isn’t aimed at strong women. It’s aimed at a certain women who is entitled, overly aggressive, disrespectful and wants to speak with a manager when not given her way.

What you're missing is this spreads to every woman who is behaving in a way someone doesn't like. You don't understand how that works? It's used to control women.

You don't think the soccer team needs matching team water bottles? Stop being a Karen.

You asked for decaf, we gave you caf, and now you want to exchange it? What a Karen.

You don't think I should be letting my cat wander around eating birds in your yard? You're a total Karen.

Agree. It's like calling a woman a ho or slut because she's promiscuous. There's really no male equivalent for ho because it's not considered shameful for men to sleep around. Similarly, there is no Karen equivalent for a man because it is not considered shameful for a man to speak up or assert himself; on the contrary, this is considered the epitome of maleness in our culture. Karening is an attempt to shame women into silence, like the modern day equivalent of a shrew's fiddle or a scold's bridle. Since women can no longer be pilloried or physically tortured for speaking up, they are called names for stepping out of the bounds of what society deems appropriate female behavior and acting more like men.

Men have double standards applied to them as well. You don’t recognize this because you are so utterly consumed with your persecution/victim complex that your ability to empathize with other people is impaired. Look at how you constantly project needlessly sinister and violent intentions onto other people as if they are simplistic cartoon villains who have no existence beyond tormenting you.

Say what now? Your response makes no sense in the context of what I wrote, which is also my only post on this thread. You sound hysterical.

[Anonymous]

DP. Anyone who thinks that OP is a Karen has an axe to grind. I find the word sexist and racist. Its just as bad as the angry black woman stereotype except we don't go around calling assertive black women an equivalent name. I can't believe some of you fools are seriously shaming white women for reporting a thief and for reporting car break-ins. Would you call a Latina woman the same? My black friend complained at a restaurant that they got her order all wrong. She also complained that Starbucks accidentally put soy milk in her latte. Is she a Karen? Or is that reserved for white women only? Bottom line the meme is meant to shame white women into asserting themselves.

[Anonymous]

Honestly, I have never called someone a Karen, but this thread has made me rethink that. I will use it liberally now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have never called someone a Karen, but this thread has made me rethink that. I will use it liberally now.

Go ahead but don't be surprised when rational, mature people cringe when you do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have never called someone a Karen, but this thread has made me rethink that. I will use it liberally now.

Go ahead but don't be surprised when rational, mature people cringe when you do so.

Rational, mature people know the difference between an assertive woman and a bossy, entitled, disrespectful, privileged woman screaming at people she views as beneath her (ie the definition posted on this very thread).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP. Anyone who thinks that OP is a Karen has an axe to grind. I find the word sexist and racist. Its just as bad as the angry black woman stereotype except we don't go around calling assertive black women an equivalent name. I can't believe some of you fools are seriously shaming white women for reporting a thief and for reporting car break-ins. Would you call a Latina woman the same? My black friend complained at a restaurant that they got her order all wrong. She also complained that Starbucks accidentally put soy milk in her latte. Is she a Karen? Or is that reserved for white women only? Bottom line the meme is meant to shame white women into asserting themselves.

It’s only for white women. However, they need to be screaming, demanding and prone to a meltdown when confronted with their behavior. If you need l a few examples you can look at the woman in the park strangling her dog while calling the cops on a black man, the woman in the convenience store telling someone to go back to their country, the woman calling the cops on a bbq, or the woman coughing on people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have never called someone a Karen, but this thread has made me rethink that. I will use it liberally now.

Go ahead but don't be surprised when rational, mature people view you as a racist and misogynistwhen you do so.

FTFY

[Anonymous]

I'm not a fan of the terms, because there is no male equivalent. If there was, say, a "Kevin," referring to a white guy who engaged in entitled behavior, that would be ok. But there isn't. And don't think for a second that there aren't guys who act like "Karens." We had some nut write a complaint letter to our chess club because his son was assigned to black rather than white more often, and apparently, according to statistical studies, black only wins 45 percent of the time. WTF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have never called someone a Karen, but this thread has made me rethink that. I will use it liberally now.

Go ahead but don't be surprised when rational, mature people cringe when you do so.

Rational, mature people know the difference between an assertive woman and a bossy, entitled, disrespectful, privileged woman screaming at people she views as beneath her (ie the definition posted on this very thread).

No they don't, because implicit bias.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have never called someone a Karen, but this thread has made me rethink that. I will use it liberally now.

Go ahead but don't be surprised when rational, mature people view you as a racist and misogynistwhen you do so.

FTFY

3rd DP. That’s why they cringe when they see pp using it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have never called someone a Karen, but this thread has made me rethink that. I will use it liberally now.

Go ahead but don't be surprised when rational, mature people cringe when you do so.

Rational, mature people know the difference between an assertive woman and a bossy, entitled, disrespectful, privileged woman screaming at people she views as beneath her (ie the definition posted on this very thread).

No they don't, because implicit bias.

+1. We all know the threshold for women is lower than for men.

“Bossy and entitled” are in the eye of the beholder (she merely disagrees with you) and “screaming” isn’t required (see the Urban Dictionary definitions).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have never called someone a Karen, but this thread has made me rethink that. I will use it liberally now.

Go ahead but don't be surprised when rational, mature people cringe when you do so.

Rational, mature people know the difference between an assertive woman and a bossy, entitled, disrespectful, privileged woman screaming at people she views as beneath her (ie the definition posted on this very thread).

No they don't, because implicit bias.

+1. We all know the threshold for women is lower than for men.

“Bossy and entitled” are in the eye of the beholder (she merely disagrees with you) and “screaming” isn’t required (see the Urban Dictionary definitions).

See the actual videos of women labeled as Karen. None of them were woman anyone would defend. Except maybe you.