The Karen meme silences White women

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The key Karen trait is having victim complex.

It’s possible to be an assertive white woman without being a Karen. It’s the tendency to act helpless and innocent after passive aggressively stirring things up with people and then turning it around and acting like you are being victimized.

The white woman who got slapped in that viral video was just a garden variety racist b—— until she got slapped and she suddenly acted shocked and traumatized, as if she didn’t instigate the whole situation. I know it’s generalization, but white woman are *notorious* for doing this.

This. White woman victimhood. And that's exactly why so many people found this thread to be precisely the Karen-esque behavior that people find irritating, and they doubled down for 50 pages whining about how silenced they are. For silenced victims, y'all talk an awful lot.

- signed black woman who just got a hostile email from her Karen coworker calling her rude for the 3rd time this month for disagreeing with her misinformed "idea" for how I should do MY job. (I'm anticipating having to field a teary phone call where she demands an apology for my "rudeness")

You sound racist.

You sound like a troll

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

You replied to my comment. So nope, I didn’t provide a definition. Reread the definitions you posted, it’s very clear Karen isn’t aimed at strong women. It’s aimed at a certain women who is entitled, overly aggressive, disrespectful and wants to speak with a manager when not given her way.

What you're missing is this spreads to every woman who is behaving in a way someone doesn't like. You don't understand how that works? It's used to control women.

You don't think the soccer team needs matching team water bottles? Stop being a Karen.

You asked for decaf, we gave you caf, and now you want to exchange it? What a Karen.

You don't think I should be letting my cat wander around eating birds in your yard? You're a total Karen.

Agree. It's like calling a woman a ho or slut because she's promiscuous. There's really no male equivalent for ho because it's not considered shameful for men to sleep around. Similarly, there is no Karen equivalent for a man because it is not considered shameful for a man to speak up or assert himself; on the contrary, this is considered the epitome of maleness in our culture. Karening is an attempt to shame women into silence, like the modern day equivalent of a shrew's fiddle or a scold's bridle. Since women can no longer be pilloried or physically tortured for speaking up, they are called names for stepping out of the bounds of what society deems appropriate female behavior and acting more like men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You replied to my comment. So nope, I didn’t provide a definition. Reread the definitions you posted, it’s very clear Karen isn’t aimed at strong women. It’s aimed at a certain women who is entitled, overly aggressive, disrespectful and wants to speak with a manager when not given her way.

What you're missing is this spreads to every woman who is behaving in a way someone doesn't like. You don't understand how that works? It's used to control women.

You don't think the soccer team needs matching team water bottles? Stop being a Karen.

You asked for decaf, we gave you caf, and now you want to exchange it? What a Karen.

You don't think I should be letting my cat wander around eating birds in your yard? You're a total Karen.

DCUM bending over backwards.

Ok these are YOUR interpretations. The definition you (or someone else) posted is clear about Karen, with examples. Is someone in public actually calling you a Karen? If so, throw those definitions at them. If not, move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You replied to my comment. So nope, I didn’t provide a definition. Reread the definitions you posted, it’s very clear Karen isn’t aimed at strong women. It’s aimed at a certain women who is entitled, overly aggressive, disrespectful and wants to speak with a manager when not given her way.

What you're missing is this spreads to every woman who is behaving in a way someone doesn't like. You don't understand how that works? It's used to control women.

You don't think the soccer team needs matching team water bottles? Stop being a Karen.

You asked for decaf, we gave you caf, and now you want to exchange it? What a Karen.

You don't think I should be letting my cat wander around eating birds in your yard? You're a total Karen.

DCUM bending over backwards.

Ok these are YOUR interpretations. The definition you (or someone else) posted is clear about Karen, with examples. Is someone in public actually calling you a Karen? If so, throw those definitions at them. If not, move on.

Can you lose an argument without dumb eye-roll emojis? Guess not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You replied to my comment. So nope, I didn’t provide a definition. Reread the definitions you posted, it’s very clear Karen isn’t aimed at strong women. It’s aimed at a certain women who is entitled, overly aggressive, disrespectful and wants to speak with a manager when not given her way.

What you're missing is this spreads to every woman who is behaving in a way someone doesn't like. You don't understand how that works? It's used to control women.

You don't think the soccer team needs matching team water bottles? Stop being a Karen.

You asked for decaf, we gave you caf, and now you want to exchange it? What a Karen.

You don't think I should be letting my cat wander around eating birds in your yard? You're a total Karen.

DCUM bending over backwards.

Ok these are YOUR interpretations. The definition you (or someone else) posted is clear about Karen, with examples. Is someone in public actually calling you a Karen? If so, throw those definitions at them. If not, move on.

I posted the Urban Dictionary definitions.

Better not to have Karen as an insult at all. Don’t make this about gender. If someone’s being a jerk, call them a jerk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You replied to my comment. So nope, I didn’t provide a definition. Reread the definitions you posted, it’s very clear Karen isn’t aimed at strong women. It’s aimed at a certain women who is entitled, overly aggressive, disrespectful and wants to speak with a manager when not given her way.

What you're missing is this spreads to every woman who is behaving in a way someone doesn't like. You don't understand how that works? It's used to control women.

You don't think the soccer team needs matching team water bottles? Stop being a Karen.

You asked for decaf, we gave you caf, and now you want to exchange it? What a Karen.

You don't think I should be letting my cat wander around eating birds in your yard? You're a total Karen.

DCUM bending over backwards.

Ok these are YOUR interpretations. The definition you (or someone else) posted is clear about Karen, with examples. Is someone in public actually calling you a Karen? If so, throw those definitions at them. If not, move on.

Can you lose an argument without dumb eye-roll emojis? Guess not.

Is it losing to use the definitions presented? Sounds like you’re pissed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You replied to my comment. So nope, I didn’t provide a definition. Reread the definitions you posted, it’s very clear Karen isn’t aimed at strong women. It’s aimed at a certain women who is entitled, overly aggressive, disrespectful and wants to speak with a manager when not given her way.

What you're missing is this spreads to every woman who is behaving in a way someone doesn't like. You don't understand how that works? It's used to control women.

You don't think the soccer team needs matching team water bottles? Stop being a Karen.

You asked for decaf, we gave you caf, and now you want to exchange it? What a Karen.

You don't think I should be letting my cat wander around eating birds in your yard? You're a total Karen.

DCUM bending over backwards.

Ok these are YOUR interpretations. The definition you (or someone else) posted is clear about Karen, with examples. Is someone in public actually calling you a Karen? If so, throw those definitions at them. If not, move on.

I posted the Urban Dictionary definitions.

Better not to have Karen as an insult at all. Don’t make this about gender. If someone’s being a jerk, call them a jerk.

You win Susan!! We won't call you Karen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You replied to my comment. So nope, I didn’t provide a definition. Reread the definitions you posted, it’s very clear Karen isn’t aimed at strong women. It’s aimed at a certain women who is entitled, overly aggressive, disrespectful and wants to speak with a manager when not given her way.

What you're missing is this spreads to every woman who is behaving in a way someone doesn't like. You don't understand how that works? It's used to control women.

You don't think the soccer team needs matching team water bottles? Stop being a Karen.

You asked for decaf, we gave you caf, and now you want to exchange it? What a Karen.

You don't think I should be letting my cat wander around eating birds in your yard? You're a total Karen.

DCUM bending over backwards.

Ok these are YOUR interpretations. The definition you (or someone else) posted is clear about Karen, with examples. Is someone in public actually calling you a Karen? If so, throw those definitions at them. If not, move on.

I posted the Urban Dictionary definitions.

Better not to have Karen as an insult at all. Don’t make this about gender. If someone’s being a jerk, call them a jerk.

Or you can call them a Karen. You don’t like Karen, don’t you use it. You cannot control anyone other than yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You replied to my comment. So nope, I didn’t provide a definition. Reread the definitions you posted, it’s very clear Karen isn’t aimed at strong women. It’s aimed at a certain women who is entitled, overly aggressive, disrespectful and wants to speak with a manager when not given her way.

What you're missing is this spreads to every woman who is behaving in a way someone doesn't like. You don't understand how that works? It's used to control women.

You don't think the soccer team needs matching team water bottles? Stop being a Karen.

You asked for decaf, we gave you caf, and now you want to exchange it? What a Karen.

You don't think I should be letting my cat wander around eating birds in your yard? You're a total Karen.

DCUM bending over backwards.

Ok these are YOUR interpretations. The definition you (or someone else) posted is clear about Karen, with examples. Is someone in public actually calling you a Karen? If so, throw those definitions at them. If not, move on.

I posted the Urban Dictionary definitions.

Better not to have Karen as an insult at all. Don’t make this about gender. If someone’s being a jerk, call them a jerk.

You win Susan!! We won't call you Karen.

She won’t get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You replied to my comment. So nope, I didn’t provide a definition. Reread the definitions you posted, it’s very clear Karen isn’t aimed at strong women. It’s aimed at a certain women who is entitled, overly aggressive, disrespectful and wants to speak with a manager when not given her way.

What you're missing is this spreads to every woman who is behaving in a way someone doesn't like. You don't understand how that works? It's used to control women.

You don't think the soccer team needs matching team water bottles? Stop being a Karen.

You asked for decaf, we gave you caf, and now you want to exchange it? What a Karen.

You don't think I should be letting my cat wander around eating birds in your yard? You're a total Karen.

DCUM bending over backwards.

Ok these are YOUR interpretations. The definition you (or someone else) posted is clear about Karen, with examples. Is someone in public actually calling you a Karen? If so, throw those definitions at them. If not, move on.

I posted the Urban Dictionary definitions.

Better not to have Karen as an insult at all. Don’t make this about gender. If someone’s being a jerk, call them a jerk.

You win Susan!! We won't call you Karen.

She won’t get it.

Yep. You guys can’t lose without insulting the person you lost to (me). I posted the definitions.

As another pp posted, the behavior standards for women are a lot tighter than those for men. A woman called a Karen is going to be held to different standards than a man who might be called a jerk. Hope you’re never trapped by this, but odds are it will happen to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Umm...how many times has it been said that Karen is the woman who wants to speak to the manager. DCUM is the place claiming every assertive woman is labeled a Karen and that it’s a way to silence all women. Looks like it’s a way to silence the angry and entitled woman who is prone to meltdowns after not getting her way.

Umm... and whooosh. Now no woman with a legitimate grievance can ask to speak to the manager. Any women who does is a Karen. Just look at OP’s legitimate grievance about not being able to get curbside service, and how many people trashed her as a Karen even though she only thought about talking to the manager.

And don’t pretend we haven’t spent the last 5-10 pages watching some of you trying to insert victim hood and racism into the mix.

Just going off the definitions you posted. What’s consider legitimate? Anything you desire to complain about? Why do you need to speak to a manager?

Op didn’t complain, so she wouldn’t be a Karen. Her coming here to complain is odd and unnecessary.

That’s the whole point. OP isn’t a Karen because she didn’t complain. And because her concern about COVID was legitimate.

Now go back and read the first two pages of the thread, with all the posters screaming at OP for being a Karen and worse.

Do you see how this works?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You replied to my comment. So nope, I didn’t provide a definition. Reread the definitions you posted, it’s very clear Karen isn’t aimed at strong women. It’s aimed at a certain women who is entitled, overly aggressive, disrespectful and wants to speak with a manager when not given her way.

What you're missing is this spreads to every woman who is behaving in a way someone doesn't like. You don't understand how that works? It's used to control women.

You don't think the soccer team needs matching team water bottles? Stop being a Karen.

You asked for decaf, we gave you caf, and now you want to exchange it? What a Karen.

You don't think I should be letting my cat wander around eating birds in your yard? You're a total Karen.

DCUM bending over backwards.

Ok these are YOUR interpretations. The definition you (or someone else) posted is clear about Karen, with examples. Is someone in public actually calling you a Karen? If so, throw those definitions at them. If not, move on.

I posted the Urban Dictionary definitions.

Better not to have Karen as an insult at all. Don’t make this about gender. If someone’s being a jerk, call them a jerk.

You win Susan!! We won't call you Karen.

She won’t get it.

Yep. You guys can’t lose without insulting the person you lost to (me). I posted the definitions.

As another pp posted, the behavior standards for women are a lot tighter than those for men. A woman called a Karen is going to be held to different standards than a man who might be called a jerk. Hope you’re never trapped by this, but odds are it will happen to you.

No one lost to you, you loon! All you've done was illustrate page after page exactly what the Karen meme is about; an entitled white women so used to getting her way, she'll throw a temper tantrum until she "wins" and the world submits to her will. She'll use insults, tears, and if all else fails, she'll want to SPEAK TO THE MANAGER! Ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You replied to my comment. So nope, I didn’t provide a definition. Reread the definitions you posted, it’s very clear Karen isn’t aimed at strong women. It’s aimed at a certain women who is entitled, overly aggressive, disrespectful and wants to speak with a manager when not given her way.

What you're missing is this spreads to every woman who is behaving in a way someone doesn't like. You don't understand how that works? It's used to control women.

You don't think the soccer team needs matching team water bottles? Stop being a Karen.

You asked for decaf, we gave you caf, and now you want to exchange it? What a Karen.

You don't think I should be letting my cat wander around eating birds in your yard? You're a total Karen.

DCUM bending over backwards.

Ok these are YOUR interpretations. The definition you (or someone else) posted is clear about Karen, with examples. Is someone in public actually calling you a Karen? If so, throw those definitions at them. If not, move on.

I posted the Urban Dictionary definitions.

Better not to have Karen as an insult at all. Don’t make this about gender. If someone’s being a jerk, call them a jerk.

You win Susan!! We won't call you Karen.

She won’t get it.

Yep. You guys can’t lose without insulting the person you lost to (me). I posted the definitions.

As another pp posted, the behavior standards for women are a lot tighter than those for men. A woman called a Karen is going to be held to different standards than a man who might be called a jerk. Hope you’re never trapped by this, but odds are it will happen to you.

No one lost to you, you loon! All you've done was illustrate page after page exactly what the Karen meme is about; an entitled white women so used to getting her way, she'll throw a temper tantrum until she "wins" and the world submits to her will. She'll use insults, tears, and if all else fails, she'll want to SPEAK TO THE MANAGER! Ridiculous.

QED

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You replied to my comment. So nope, I didn’t provide a definition. Reread the definitions you posted, it’s very clear Karen isn’t aimed at strong women. It’s aimed at a certain women who is entitled, overly aggressive, disrespectful and wants to speak with a manager when not given her way.

What you're missing is this spreads to every woman who is behaving in a way someone doesn't like. You don't understand how that works? It's used to control women.

You don't think the soccer team needs matching team water bottles? Stop being a Karen.

You asked for decaf, we gave you caf, and now you want to exchange it? What a Karen.

You don't think I should be letting my cat wander around eating birds in your yard? You're a total Karen.

DCUM bending over backwards.

Ok these are YOUR interpretations. The definition you (or someone else) posted is clear about Karen, with examples. Is someone in public actually calling you a Karen? If so, throw those definitions at them. If not, move on.

I posted the Urban Dictionary definitions.

Better not to have Karen as an insult at all. Don’t make this about gender. If someone’s being a jerk, call them a jerk.

You win Susan!! We won't call you Karen.

She won’t get it.

Yep. You guys can’t lose without insulting the person you lost to (me). I posted the definitions.

As another pp posted, the behavior standards for women are a lot tighter than those for men. A woman called a Karen is going to be held to different standards than a man who might be called a jerk. Hope you’re never trapped by this, but odds are it will happen to you.

Lose? What did you win?

You posted the definitions in an attempt to shame another poster (so nice of you). Then you chose to interpret the definitions the way you wanted to in order to fit your narrative. The definitions were quite clear, with examples. So no, every assertive women is not labeled a Karen (even though you want to believe this). Are you complaining regularly and asking for a manager? Are you demanding and aggressive in your demands? Are you melting down after not getting your way? If so, then yeah, you’re a Karen.

No, I’m not worried, nor will I be trapped by this. I know how to act in public. Maybe you need to work on your communication if you are so worried about being labeled as a Karen. Here’s a hint, don’t use the word “won” in a discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Umm...how many times has it been said that Karen is the woman who wants to speak to the manager. DCUM is the place claiming every assertive woman is labeled a Karen and that it’s a way to silence all women. Looks like it’s a way to silence the angry and entitled woman who is prone to meltdowns after not getting her way.

Umm... and whooosh. Now no woman with a legitimate grievance can ask to speak to the manager. Any women who does is a Karen. Just look at OP’s legitimate grievance about not being able to get curbside service, and how many people trashed her as a Karen even though she only thought about talking to the manager.

And don’t pretend we haven’t spent the last 5-10 pages watching some of you trying to insert victim hood and racism into the mix.

Just going off the definitions you posted. What’s consider legitimate? Anything you desire to complain about? Why do you need to speak to a manager?

Op didn’t complain, so she wouldn’t be a Karen. Her coming here to complain is odd and unnecessary.

That’s the whole point. OP isn’t a Karen because she didn’t complain. And because her concern about COVID was legitimate.

Now go back and read the first two pages of the thread, with all the posters screaming at OP for being a Karen and worse.

Do you see how this works?

So you want to control how people use Karen? Good Luck.