War with Iran Part II

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So Trump has said that regardless of any kind of deal, we win. Could some Republicans chime in and explain how this war has been a win for America? Thanks!

Also Democrats are as quiet as a mouse.

What do you want them to say exactly? Other than they will not agree to the automatic extension to the yearly 3.8 billion dollars annual supplement to Israel, what do you expect them to say? This war is all republicans with a Republican controlled Congress.

They could speak out for the people of Lebanon. They could speak out for the kids we killed in ten school bombing in Iran. They could speak out for how our military spending doesn’t allow us nice things (as Trump said we can’t pay for free childcare because we need go wage war). They could speak out against giving weapons to a country that uses them to kill women and children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trump was originally slated to go, Vance was unable for “security reasons”. Then suddenly they send Vance. I think they know it’s hopeless and trump doesn’t care about Vance’s future. He wants him to take the blame.

Trump and the Iranian delegation together is a bad idea. They both are full of hubris, like to make threats, play act for the cameras and always have maximalist demands.

If you have been truly following what has been happening for the pat 40 days and not just talking out of your @$$, you would realize the Iranian delegation is smarter and more strategic than us even with, "the cards they have been dealt with," to paraphrase our urbane President.

The US military has been defeated. It performed worse than Russia. In fact if we had gone head to head with Ukraine, Ukraine would have won the war.

The sad part is that we cannot even quickly pivot. Our entire economic system is built to support large weapons manufacturers which are usless now in comparison to cheap drones. The mythology of our empire is built on saavy, handsome fighter pilots and those large weapons can no longer be updated because of the freeze on essential minerals and parts from China.

We are doomed.

Case in point:

American defense companies in shambles. Buying non-US weapon systems is going to be politically popular everywhere after a year of Trump. Can't imagine shareholders at Lockheed, Northrop, Boeing, and General Dynamics are thrilled with what Republicans are doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No gas. No fertilizer.

We are effed

A lot of the developing countries are running out of diesel fuel and farmers can’t transport their crops to the market.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump was originally slated to go, Vance was unable for “security reasons”. Then suddenly they send Vance. I think they know it’s hopeless and trump doesn’t care about Vance’s future. He wants him to take the blame.

Trump and the Iranian delegation together is a bad idea. They both are full of hubris, like to make threats, play act for the cameras and always have maximalist demands.

If you have been truly following what has been happening for the pat 40 days and not just talking out of your @$$, you would realize the Iranian delegation is smarter and more strategic than us even with, "the cards they have been dealt with," to paraphrase our urbane President.

The US military has been defeated. It performed worse than Russia. In fact if we had gone head to head with Ukraine, Ukraine would have won the war.

The sad part is that we cannot even quickly pivot. Our entire economic system is built to support large weapons manufacturers which are usless now in comparison to cheap drones. The mythology of our empire is built on saavy, handsome fighter pilots and those large weapons can no longer be updated because of the freeze on essential minerals and parts from China.

We are doomed.

Case in point:

American defense companies in shambles. Buying non-US weapon systems is going to be politically popular everywhere after a year of Trump. Can't imagine shareholders at Lockheed, Northrop, Boeing, and General Dynamics are thrilled with what Republicans are doing.

Our weapon systems do not work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Trump has said that regardless of any kind of deal, we win. Could some Republicans chime in and explain how this war has been a win for America? Thanks!

Also Democrats are as quiet as a mouse.

What do you want them to say exactly? Other than they will not agree to the automatic extension to the yearly 3.8 billion dollars annual supplement to Israel, what do you expect them to say? This war is all republicans with a Republican controlled Congress.

They could speak out for the people of Lebanon. They could speak out for the kids we killed in ten school bombing in Iran. They could speak out for how our military spending doesn’t allow us nice things (as Trump said we can’t pay for free childcare because we need go wage war). They could speak out against giving weapons to a country that uses them to kill women and children.

They would say that is antisemitic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump was originally slated to go, Vance was unable for “security reasons”. Then suddenly they send Vance. I think they know it’s hopeless and trump doesn’t care about Vance’s future. He wants him to take the blame.

Trump and the Iranian delegation together is a bad idea. They both are full of hubris, like to make threats, play act for the cameras and always have maximalist demands.

If you have been truly following what has been happening for the pat 40 days and not just talking out of your @$$, you would realize the Iranian delegation is smarter and more strategic than us even with, "the cards they have been dealt with," to paraphrase our urbane President.

The US military has been defeated. It performed worse than Russia. In fact if we had gone head to head with Ukraine, Ukraine would have won the war.

The sad part is that we cannot even quickly pivot. Our entire economic system is built to support large weapons manufacturers which are usless now in comparison to cheap drones. The mythology of our empire is built on saavy, handsome fighter pilots and those large weapons can no longer be updated because of the freeze on essential minerals and parts from China.

We are doomed.

Case in point:

American defense companies in shambles. Buying non-US weapon systems is going to be politically popular everywhere after a year of Trump. Can't imagine shareholders at Lockheed, Northrop, Boeing, and General Dynamics are thrilled with what Republicans are doing.

Our weapon systems do not work.

Time to upgrade.
There is no shortage of money for weapons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump was originally slated to go, Vance was unable for “security reasons”. Then suddenly they send Vance. I think they know it’s hopeless and trump doesn’t care about Vance’s future. He wants him to take the blame.

Trump and the Iranian delegation together is a bad idea. They both are full of hubris, like to make threats, play act for the cameras and always have maximalist demands.

If you have been truly following what has been happening for the pat 40 days and not just talking out of your @$$, you would realize the Iranian delegation is smarter and more strategic than us even with, "the cards they have been dealt with," to paraphrase our urbane President.

The US military has been defeated. It performed worse than Russia. In fact if we had gone head to head with Ukraine, Ukraine would have won the war.

The sad part is that we cannot even quickly pivot. Our entire economic system is built to support large weapons manufacturers which are usless now in comparison to cheap drones. The mythology of our empire is built on saavy, handsome fighter pilots and those large weapons can no longer be updated because of the freeze on essential minerals and parts from China.

We are doomed.

Case in point:

American defense companies in shambles. Buying non-US weapon systems is going to be politically popular everywhere after a year of Trump. Can't imagine shareholders at Lockheed, Northrop, Boeing, and General Dynamics are thrilled with what Republicans are doing.

Our weapon systems do not work.

Time to upgrade.
There is no shortage of money for weapons.

As the war in Ukraine has demonstrated, it's all about drones today. About a 1000 men die every day in that war, and roughly 80 percent are due to drones. Which are very cheap. If Trump/Hegseth/Rubio/Vance had two brain cells and listened to experts, they'd know modern war has changed. But alas, we elected idiots.

[Anonymous]

Once Israel got their war they've wanted for decades they weren't going to stop. We're trapped in this war with Israel. Ceasefire negotiations were just a charade.

[Anonymous]

If I were an Iranian leader, I would have zero need for a deal. They’re charging money over crossing the strait. Sounds like they won to me. Why would they want to roll over and sit? For what? America wanted war so let’s war is probably what they are thinking. Trump cannot come to terms with being a loser so he even is joining hands with Iran. Wait a few weeks
And he’ll be praising them with a job well done congratulations for “being reallly really tough”.

It’s just hilarious to me that Israel believed Trump was a hardened ideologue ready to rumble for their cause. Trump is a hot air balloon and he only can go up. If Iran is up, he’s with them. He blows with the wind

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump was originally slated to go, Vance was unable for “security reasons”. Then suddenly they send Vance. I think they know it’s hopeless and trump doesn’t care about Vance’s future. He wants him to take the blame.

Trump and the Iranian delegation together is a bad idea. They both are full of hubris, like to make threats, play act for the cameras and always have maximalist demands.

If you have been truly following what has been happening for the pat 40 days and not just talking out of your @$$, you would realize the Iranian delegation is smarter and more strategic than us even with, "the cards they have been dealt with," to paraphrase our urbane President.

The US military has been defeated. It performed worse than Russia. In fact if we had gone head to head with Ukraine, Ukraine would have won the war.

The sad part is that we cannot even quickly pivot. Our entire economic system is built to support large weapons manufacturers which are usless now in comparison to cheap drones. The mythology of our empire is built on saavy, handsome fighter pilots and those large weapons can no longer be updated because of the freeze on essential minerals and parts from China.

We are doomed.

Case in point:

American defense companies in shambles. Buying non-US weapon systems is going to be politically popular everywhere after a year of Trump. Can't imagine shareholders at Lockheed, Northrop, Boeing, and General Dynamics are thrilled with what Republicans are doing.

Our weapon systems do not work.

Time to upgrade.
There is no shortage of money for weapons.

There is the problem. You don’t need billions of dollars to make a missile or plane that kills people. These companies are scamming the taxpayers. Wasn’t it Boeing that charged 8,000x the regular price for soap dispensers on their planes?

end the racket with weapon spending. Frankly, I’d rather that money go toward higher salaries for the military or missile defense or naval defense here in the US . Do we even have underwater mines like the Chinese or the Iranians? We don’t have hypersonic missiles like the Iranians. How many rocket scientists are Americans producing (of American nationality)? Are we subsidizing their education?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump was originally slated to go, Vance was unable for “security reasons”. Then suddenly they send Vance. I think they know it’s hopeless and trump doesn’t care about Vance’s future. He wants him to take the blame.

Trump and the Iranian delegation together is a bad idea. They both are full of hubris, like to make threats, play act for the cameras and always have maximalist demands.

If you have been truly following what has been happening for the pat 40 days and not just talking out of your @$$, you would realize the Iranian delegation is smarter and more strategic than us even with, "the cards they have been dealt with," to paraphrase our urbane President.

The US military has been defeated. It performed worse than Russia. In fact if we had gone head to head with Ukraine, Ukraine would have won the war.

The sad part is that we cannot even quickly pivot. Our entire economic system is built to support large weapons manufacturers which are usless now in comparison to cheap drones. The mythology of our empire is built on saavy, handsome fighter pilots and those large weapons can no longer be updated because of the freeze on essential minerals and parts from China.

We are doomed.

Case in point:

American defense companies in shambles. Buying non-US weapon systems is going to be politically popular everywhere after a year of Trump. Can't imagine shareholders at Lockheed, Northrop, Boeing, and General Dynamics are thrilled with what Republicans are doing.

Well no one ever expects that the leopard 🐆 will eat THEIR face, do they

[Anonymous]

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Vance already left Pakistan. It was too tiring for him so he bailed.

[Anonymous]

Kushner took billions from the Saudi’s. They want regime change. The alignment between US interests and kushners interests are incompatible

It’s kinda why there are supposed to be laws that are enforced.