War with Iran Part II

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Anonymous wrote:Veteran journalist David Shuster laid out the reported terms of the emerging U.S.-Iran agreement in blunt detail and called it a surrender. Under terms circulated by Iranian state media, the U.S. would withdraw all forces from the Persian Gulf, lift sanctions, release $12 billion immediately and another $12 billion within 60 days, fund $300 billion in Iranian reconstruction, and cede control of the Strait of Hormuz to Tehran. In return, the U.S. receives Iran's promise to discuss its nuclear program, a commitment Shuster said does not constitute a deal.

Trump is desperate to extricate himself from this quagmire, but I don’t think even his demented, narcissistic self is this desperate. The US is not giving Iran 300 billion dollars of American money. Yeah, Iran can have their own 30 billion confiscated dollars, but where is the 300 billion coming from? And no, the US is not pulling out of the UAE, Kuwait, Jordan, Qatar, Iraq, and Bahrain. No way. And where are the terms for Israel to stop bombing and annexing Lebanon to become the greater northern Israel. This agreement doesn’t sound right and there’s nothing in it for the USA.

What is your point?

Obama didn’t “give” Iran money (he unfroze some of the Iranian deposits in U.S.-controlled institutions and permitted them to retrieve it), but the Republicans have lived and breathed on the lie of “pallets of cash sent to Iran” for over a decade now.

Obama's name is not used once in my post, so stop being so reactionary without cause. Learn to read to comprehend and not respond.

You are clearly trying to refute points critical of this administration’s planned transfer of funds to Iran, and clearly (yet futilely) attempting to use language intended to differentiate this admin.’s plan from THE FALSE CLAIMS of what occurred under Obama.

Shove the gaslighting where the sun don’t shine. Not having it.

#benghazi! #lockherup! #pallets of cash!

Lamest, most inept hypocrites imaginable …

Liar. Just stop. I most certainly was not. Again, read for comprehension and not to respond.

Cool, so we agree …

1. The Obama admin. “gave” Iran nothing …

2. The Obama admin. allowed Iran to retrieve some amount of THEIR OWN DEPOSITS that had been frozen by the U.S. (likely in violation of int’l law)

3. Whatever the amount was under #2 above, all indications are that the current Trump admin. will be allowing Iran to retrieve substantially more of THEIR OWN DEPOSITS; and that the current Trump admin. will ALSO be transferring an amount of OUR U.S. FUNDS to Iran, an amount of which will dwarf whatever the amount was in #2 above.

Bad time to be a Republican if “owning the libs” is a priority …

Again, Obama's name was never used or implied. That's all you. I am through engaging with dishonest people who make up stuff that was never said or implied to fit their narrative. It's like people cannot have a conversation without bringing up Biden or Obama when discussing the current president's bad acts.

Um, it's Trump and Magaland that are always inexplicably say, "But Biden..." or "But Obama..."

However, in this case, there is no avoiding comparison to Obama.

(1) Trump unnecessarily tore up JCPOA, deeming it "bad" simply because Obama agreed to it (and Trump has bigtime envy of Obama).

(2) Trump entered a war supposedly to accomplish the same goals as JCPOA.

(3) Trump has lost the war and is offering terms to get out of the quagmire that are much worse than JCPOA.

Trump's recklessness regarding JCPOA is fundamental to this situation.

It sounds like you, like Trump, can't tolerate Obama being right about something.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Veteran journalist David Shuster laid out the reported terms of the emerging U.S.-Iran agreement in blunt detail and called it a surrender. Under terms circulated by Iranian state media, the U.S. would withdraw all forces from the Persian Gulf, lift sanctions, release $12 billion immediately and another $12 billion within 60 days, fund $300 billion in Iranian reconstruction, and cede control of the Strait of Hormuz to Tehran. In return, the U.S. receives Iran's promise to discuss its nuclear program, a commitment Shuster said does not constitute a deal.

Trump is desperate to extricate himself from this quagmire, but I don’t think even his demented, narcissistic self is this desperate. The US is not giving Iran 300 billion dollars of American money. Yeah, Iran can have their own 30 billion confiscated dollars, but where is the 300 billion coming from? And no, the US is not pulling out of the UAE, Kuwait, Jordan, Qatar, Iraq, and Bahrain. No way. And where are the terms for Israel to stop bombing and annexing Lebanon to become the greater northern Israel. This agreement doesn’t sound right and there’s nothing in it for the USA.

What is your point?

Obama didn’t “give” Iran money (he unfroze some of the Iranian deposits in U.S.-controlled institutions and permitted them to retrieve it), but the Republicans have lived and breathed on the lie of “pallets of cash sent to Iran” for over a decade now.

Obama's name is not used once in my post, so stop being so reactionary without cause. Learn to read to comprehend and not respond.

You are clearly trying to refute points critical of this administration’s planned transfer of funds to Iran, and clearly (yet futilely) attempting to use language intended to differentiate this admin.’s plan from THE FALSE CLAIMS of what occurred under Obama.

Shove the gaslighting where the sun don’t shine. Not having it.

#benghazi! #lockherup! #pallets of cash!

Lamest, most inept hypocrites imaginable …

Liar. Just stop. I most certainly was not. Again, read for comprehension and not to respond.

Cool, so we agree …

1. The Obama admin. “gave” Iran nothing …

2. The Obama admin. allowed Iran to retrieve some amount of THEIR OWN DEPOSITS that had been frozen by the U.S. (likely in violation of int’l law)

3. Whatever the amount was under #2 above, all indications are that the current Trump admin. will be allowing Iran to retrieve substantially more of THEIR OWN DEPOSITS; and that the current Trump admin. will ALSO be transferring an amount of OUR U.S. FUNDS to Iran, an amount of which will dwarf whatever the amount was in #2 above.

Bad time to be a Republican if “owning the libs” is a priority …

Again, Obama's name was never used or implied. That's all you. I am through engaging with dishonest people who make up stuff that was never said or implied to fit their narrative. It's like people cannot have a conversation without bringing up Biden or Obama when discussing the current president's bad acts.

Um, it's Trump and Magaland that are always inexplicably say, "But Biden..." or "But Obama..."

However, in this case, there is no avoiding comparison to Obama.

(1) Trump unnecessarily tore up JCPOA, deeming it "bad" simply because Obama agreed to it (and Trump has bigtime envy of Obama).

(2) Trump entered a war supposedly to accomplish the same goals as JCPOA.

(3) Trump has lost the war and is offering terms to get out of the quagmire that are much worse than JCPOA.

Trump's recklessness regarding JCPOA is fundamental to this situation.

It sounds like you, like Trump, can't tolerate Obama being right about something.

DP

Yeah, the hard “g” comes through loud and clear. You don’t need to be a biofeedback expert to sense the heart rate elevating in these posters when Barack Hussein Obama is brought (by them, ironically) into any conversation.

#tansuit! #bikehelmet!

[Anonymous]

How did we control the Strait this whole time when Trump went public to say that they would now block Iranian vessels if Iran did not unblock the Strait of Hormuz?

[Anonymous]

Why does Lebanon have anything to do with Iran and our deal? Of course, Iran has tentacles everywhere and likes to provoke and attack whoever it likes. Iran is an existential threat not just to Israel but to GCC countries.

I find it hard to swallow that we are hearing each day that you cannot negotiate with Iran in any way. I know you can't; their leaders are monsters. Yet, we are signing some peace deal with those we can't trust at all?

[Anonymous]

Bill Kristol:

They warned me that if I voted for Kamala Harris we’d get a new deal with the Iranian regime worse than the JCPOA. I voted for Kamala, and they were right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does Lebanon have anything to do with Iran and our deal? Of course, Iran has tentacles everywhere and likes to provoke and attack whoever it likes. Iran is an existential threat not just to Israel but to GCC countries.

I find it hard to swallow that we are hearing each day that you cannot negotiate with Iran in any way. I know you can't; their leaders are monsters. Yet, we are signing some peace deal with those we can't trust at all?

No one is buying your nonsense Zioganda anymore. Everything you say about Iran more appropriately describes the genocidal apartheid terrorist state if Israel that's committed mass war crimes to prevent any type of peace agreement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Lebanon have anything to do with Iran and our deal? Of course, Iran has tentacles everywhere and likes to provoke and attack whoever it likes. Iran is an existential threat not just to Israel but to GCC countries.

I find it hard to swallow that we are hearing each day that you cannot negotiate with Iran in any way. I know you can't; their leaders are monsters. Yet, we are signing some peace deal with those we can't trust at all?

No one is buying your nonsense Zioganda anymore. Everything you say about Iran more appropriately describes the genocidal apartheid terrorist state if Israel that's committed mass war crimes to prevent any type of peace agreement.

+1

Iran’s leadership, despite being POS autocrats themselves, at least retain an ounce of morality and concern for others.

PP wouldn’t get it since compassion for others and supporting the rights of those outside the tribe are features that are not hardwired into the Zionist mind.

[Anonymous]

There is no deal, it is all more Trump bluster.

What Iran announced as the 'deal' is different than what Trump announced. Meanwhile, israel is still lobbing bombs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Lebanon have anything to do with Iran and our deal? Of course, Iran has tentacles everywhere and likes to provoke and attack whoever it likes. Iran is an existential threat not just to Israel but to GCC countries.

I find it hard to swallow that we are hearing each day that you cannot negotiate with Iran in any way. I know you can't; their leaders are monsters. Yet, we are signing some peace deal with those we can't trust at all?

No one is buying your nonsense Zioganda anymore. Everything you say about Iran more appropriately describes the genocidal apartheid terrorist state if Israel that's committed mass war crimes to prevent any type of peace agreement.

Nobody cares for your murderous buddies who are the IRGC, Hamas, and Hezbollah. I can't help stupid people like you, and I wish you would just go there and fight with your buddies to exterminate the Jews again. Nothing new there; the story is as old as time. Please go over there and become one of the wives of a murderer? Oh wait, you are LGBTQ, so you would be murdered on sight there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does Lebanon have anything to do with Iran and our deal? Of course, Iran has tentacles everywhere and likes to provoke and attack whoever it likes. Iran is an existential threat not just to Israel but to GCC countries.

I find it hard to swallow that we are hearing each day that you cannot negotiate with Iran in any way. I know you can't; their leaders are monsters. Yet, we are signing some peace deal with those we can't trust at all?

No one is buying your nonsense Zioganda anymore. Everything you say about Iran more appropriately describes the genocidal apartheid terrorist state if Israel that's committed mass war crimes to prevent any type of peace agreement.

+1

Iran’s leadership, despite being POS autocrats themselves, at least retain an ounce of morality and concern for others.

PP wouldn’t get it since compassion for others and supporting the rights of those outside the tribe are features that are not hardwired into the Zionist mind.

OMG. You have truly fallen down the rabbit hole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no deal, it is all more Trump bluster.

What Iran announced as the 'deal' is different than what Trump announced. Meanwhile, israel is still lobbing bombs.

It’s a deal in that Trump will walk away from the mess he made. He DGAF if Iran is charging other countries to pass through the Strait. He’ll declare victory, won’t drop anymore bombs and won’t ever speak of Iran again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does Lebanon have anything to do with Iran and our deal? Of course, Iran has tentacles everywhere and likes to provoke and attack whoever it likes. Iran is an existential threat not just to Israel but to GCC countries.

I find it hard to swallow that we are hearing each day that you cannot negotiate with Iran in any way. I know you can't; their leaders are monsters. Yet, we are signing some peace deal with those we can't trust at all?

No one is buying your nonsense Zioganda anymore. Everything you say about Iran more appropriately describes the genocidal apartheid terrorist state if Israel that's committed mass war crimes to prevent any type of peace agreement.

+1

Iran’s leadership, despite being POS autocrats themselves, at least retain an ounce of morality and concern for others.

PP wouldn’t get it since compassion for others and supporting the rights of those outside the tribe are features that are not hardwired into the Zionist mind.

Wait - what "rights outside the tribe" does the Iranian regime support? This is hilarious. Be very specific.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no deal, it is all more Trump bluster.

What Iran announced as the 'deal' is different than what Trump announced. Meanwhile, israel is still lobbing bombs.

It’s a deal in that Trump will walk away from the mess he made. He DGAF if Iran is charging other countries to pass through the Strait. He’ll declare victory, won’t drop anymore bombs and won’t ever speak of Iran again.

If the deal is anywhere close to what's been reported, expect incoming from Levin, Shapiro, etc..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does Lebanon have anything to do with Iran and our deal? Of course, Iran has tentacles everywhere and likes to provoke and attack whoever it likes. Iran is an existential threat not just to Israel but to GCC countries.

I find it hard to swallow that we are hearing each day that you cannot negotiate with Iran in any way. I know you can't; their leaders are monsters. Yet, we are signing some peace deal with those we can't trust at all?

No one is buying your nonsense Zioganda anymore. Everything you say about Iran more appropriately describes the genocidal apartheid terrorist state if Israel that's committed mass war crimes to prevent any type of peace agreement.

+1

Iran’s leadership, despite being POS autocrats themselves, at least retain an ounce of morality and concern for others.

PP wouldn’t get it since compassion for others and supporting the rights of those outside the tribe are features that are not hardwired into the Zionist mind.

Wait - what "rights outside the tribe" does the Iranian regime support? This is hilarious. Be very specific.
DP

Human rights of Palestinians, human rights of Lebanese, etc.

I’m sure you’ll retort with your tired “they 40,000 of their own people in January!” blood libel from the Hasbara handbook (or are you guys using 100,000 now?), but (A) that figure is exaggerated by 10-20x and (B) apparently the ones that were killed were part of groups funded and armed by a foreign nation, so, meh … we’d do the same if the U.S. government was being attacked by groups funded and armed by Russia or China.

[Anonymous]

Trump surrendered on his birthday lmao