Boundary Review Meetings

[Anonymous]

I feel like the final maps won’t be too different from the initial scenarios. Of course, if you thought your neighborhood of 40 kids would be safe and then all of a sudden they get moved, it’s not a minor change at all.

My bet is that Thru was told to make a mapping tool with 3 scenarios which is what they did. Then all of a sudden, FCPS wants scenarios 4 and even 5, to account for KAA’s new borders. Thru said “of course we can put more scenarios on the map tool,” but they coded it in such a way that additional scenarios weren’t possible without redoing all their coding … which is what they are trying to do now, because they are incompetent.

[Anonymous]

BRAC Members saw the "Scenario 4" last night

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone on BRAC just share what the changes are at this point? They know what the changes are, just not in map form.

I don't think anyone from BRAC will share this information, since they haven't seen the revised maps and don't have any idea of the real reasons behind the delay.

It could very well be that the delay is because the maps being released are delayed because the school board made changes that are very different than what BRAC was told at their last meeting.

Then they are JUST as bad as Gatehouse. All certain BRAC members do is go on Facebook and NextDoor and complain, complain, complain without sharing any helpful information.

F off. They were forced to sign NDAs and are volunteering to try to make the process better. You want them to be sued by FCPS? Gtfoh, you are a shit human being.

Is your mommy on the BRAC?

Awh snap, crazy sick burn. We’re all amazed at your robust insult skills and your ability to felate the school board members and the superintendent no matter what harm they do to the schools.

Are the maps out yet?

It beats swearing at someone on an anonymous forum, LOL!

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone on BRAC just share what the changes are at this point? They know what the changes are, just not in map form.

I don't think anyone from BRAC will share this information, since they haven't seen the revised maps and don't have any idea of the real reasons behind the delay.

It could very well be that the delay is because the maps being released are delayed because the school board made changes that are very different than what BRAC was told at their last meeting.

Then they are JUST as bad as Gatehouse. All certain BRAC members do is go on Facebook and NextDoor and complain, complain, complain without sharing any helpful information.

BRAC hasn’t even seen the updated maps they were supposed to receive on Tuesday of this week. and they were reiterated that they signed NDAs. Over the summer, FairFACTs matter shared some rumblings over Langley. The silence to even BRAC has me worried for scenario 4. I am no where close to Langley but it worries me for what else they could be moving around and delaying the release.

But as someone has already mentioned, the BRAC members have been told what the changes are, so they already know.

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Anonymous wrote:BRAC Members saw the "Scenario 4" last night

i don’t think this is true. if they saw the map why hasn’t it been published. on 10/7 they were told of changes just not shown in map form

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw GF is still very active with this. I'm sure Fairfacts is playing hard in it, too. They had that meeting with Lady where she told them they would not move. Must be nice to get that support from your SB member,.

Yup and Great Falls/Fairfacts Matter got a bonus seat on BRAC. And their reps are constantly whining on nextdoor and acting like they know more than everyone else. And once again they will have no boundary changes.

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Anonymous wrote:BRAC Members saw the "Scenario 4" last night

i don’t think this is true. if they saw the map why hasn’t it been published. on 10/7 they were told of changes just not shown in map form

Yes, it is true

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Anonymous wrote:BRAC Members saw the "Scenario 4" last night

i don’t think this is true. if they saw the map why hasn’t it been published. on 10/7 they were told of changes just not shown in map form

Yes, it is true

so then why can’t fcps show community

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw GF is still very active with this. I'm sure Fairfacts is playing hard in it, too. They had that meeting with Lady where she told them they would not move. Must be nice to get that support from your SB member,.

Yup and Great Falls/Fairfacts Matter got a bonus seat on BRAC. And their reps are constantly whining on nextdoor and acting like they know more than everyone else. And once again they will have no boundary changes.

FFM is a county-wide organization, so you should feel free to reach out to them for assistance, they’ve engaged with FCPS on behalf of many non-great falls communities.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't live in region 4, so it doesn't effect me...but I heard that BOTH the West Springfield BRAC members are Hunt Valley parents and they did everything the could to keep Hunt Valley at West Springfield. I'm not saying the BRAC members aren't trying their best, but that's a huge bias.

It’s insane to think that Hunt Valley should be anywhere but West Springfield (except Saratoga mom, and refer back to being insane) And the split feeder thing was said to be a mistake by Thru.

That being said, it would not shock anyone if Reid does something stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't live in region 4, so it doesn't effect me...but I heard that BOTH the West Springfield BRAC members are Hunt Valley parents and they did everything the could to keep Hunt Valley at West Springfield. I'm not saying the BRAC members aren't trying their best, but that's a huge bias.

It’s insane to think that Hunt Valley should be anywhere but West Springfield (except Saratoga mom, and refer back to being insane) And the split feeder thing was said to be a mistake by Thru.

That being said, it would not shock anyone if Reid does something stupid.

I agree, but the same can we said about that West Orange Hunt neighborhood that walks to Sangster. According to the map, they are squarely within the Springfield Boundaries, closer to Irving and West Springfield, and are part of the Orange Hunt Neighborhood Association. Why move them and not others? None of the changes in Region 4 make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone on BRAC just share what the changes are at this point? They know what the changes are, just not in map form.

I don't think anyone from BRAC will share this information, since they haven't seen the revised maps and don't have any idea of the real reasons behind the delay.

It could very well be that the delay is because the maps being released are delayed because the school board made changes that are very different than what BRAC was told at their last meeting.

Then they are JUST as bad as Gatehouse. All certain BRAC members do is go on Facebook and NextDoor and complain, complain, complain without sharing any helpful information.

You know, they had to sign non disclosures to even be on the committee.

BRAC pyramid volunteers are just other parents doing a thankless job, with zero information or support from FCPS, at a scope much larger than they were told at the beginning.

If you feel you are getting a runaround from FCPS, the BRAC volunteers are experiencing this almost weekly, several times over what you feel.

No same person in their right mind would publicly release any half baked information from FCPS of what they *think* might be the plan, because they will upset prople unnecessary, especially if FCPS pulls a bait and switch, and the information that BRAC shares ends up being wrong. There have been mistakes by FCPS and Thru thoughout this process, and evasive runaround by the school board and Reid.

Why would any of the BRAC members release information on maps before they know it is accurate?

Do you trust Reid and the school board to be transparent? I suspect the answer is no. So why should BRAC volunteers, especially since they have seen up close and on a regular basis at every BRAC meeting how evasive and dishonest FCPS can be.

I have attended several rezoning meetings.

At the last one just a week ago, FCPS was openly throwing the BRAC volunteers attending the meeting under the bus. When parents brought up very legitimate complaints about their neighborhoods getting rezoned, FCPS response was they should bring their complaints to the BRAC members. When parents asked for information that FCPS was not sharing, FCPS told them they needed to ask the BRAC members (who also did not have the information and have been asking the same questions for over a year.)

After the meeting, the BRAC members stayed for 30 minutes, trying to answer questions that they had no answers for.

The meeting had no superintendent and no school board reps in attendance.

The 2 employees knew nothing about rezoning. They were not high level employees.

One was there to read the slides to us, with no answers to the questions we asked.

The other was working on the start time changes, and was there to read the start time slides to us. He didn't have any knowlege or answers to any rezoning questions.

The entire meeting was a farce. The only people there trying to sincerely answer questions were the BRAC parent volunteers.

The meeting was not videotaped.

A parent tried to video tape the Q&A for their spouse who couldn't make it to watch.

A FCPS employee came over and loudly made the parent stop.

When the parent explained why they were videptaping and pointed out that it was a public meeting so they were allowed to videotape, the FCPS employee told her no, that the rezoning meetings could not be videotaped and if a parent was unable to come in person or watch it live on zoom, they were just out of luck.

How is that even legal?

This is what the BRAC members have been dealing with.

Cut them some slack.

FCPS is showing that they are going to try to push parent anger about rezoning away from the school board and superintendent, to the parent volunteers on BRAC. They are not even trying to be transparent about this.

Why would any of the BRAC volunteers stick out their necks at this point? They went into this in good faith, have been completely railroaded and unsupported by FCPS, and are now going to get thrown under the bus when the maps come out and people are naturally upset.

FCPS is going to tell people who are upset about their neighborhoods getting rezoned that the BRAC members picked them to get rezoned. They are already starting to lay the groundwork for passing the blame to the volunteers.

Nevermind that it has bedn implied to the BRAC members that if they can't come up with enough recommendations to rezone, that Reid will pick. The BRAC members are trying their best to find the smallest number of houses to recommend for rezoning, to the most equivalent schools academically, with the most community overlap, similar sports teams, programs, and closest distance. They are trying to save as many neighborhoods as they can from rezoning, trying to lessen the sting of rezoning, and trying to prevent an outcome where Reid picks winners and losers.

Parents should be united in their support of the BRAC community volunteers, even if you don't like the outcome. They are being horribly used by FCPS.

I see I touched a nerve. We know that most BRAC members volunteered as a way to keep their children in their schools or keep their home values up. I mean, look at Great Falls and look at the guy in Fairfax who is determined to stay zoned to Oakton. I'm not saying all of them, but many of them. However thank you for your service, BRAC Member whose child alerted them to this post. I do appreciate that you are volunteering and trying to your best for the community.

Yeah... I am not on the BRAC committee and my kids are not at any risk for rezoning.

I have attended a lot of the rezoning meetings and spoken to several of the volunteers, from my pyramid and other pyramids, and from 2 of the different interest groups.

You could not be more mistaken with your accusations.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't live in region 4, so it doesn't effect me...but I heard that BOTH the West Springfield BRAC members are Hunt Valley parents and they did everything the could to keep Hunt Valley at West Springfield. I'm not saying the BRAC members aren't trying their best, but that's a huge bias.

Most of the volunteers from Region 4 were from Hunt Valley.

There is nothing nefarious about the selection for Region 4.

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Anonymous wrote:Scenario 3 was not developed with BRAC input. If you read the Region 4 BRAC notes it looks like they tried to pick off smaller sections to be rezoned out of WS do they can stay as is. Some of the neighbors they offered to sacrifice to preserve look per the map closer to WS. The numbers are unclear, but it looks like they were trying to cobble together every small change they could--actually effecting more neighborhoods--they making a larger, logical change like moving Daventry back to Lewis??

The Sangster split feeder is a no brainer.

Sangster parents have bedn asking for at least a drcade or more to eliminate the split feeder and send the entire school to Lake Braddock.

This resistance is very new and is as if they are just getting caught up in the anti rezoning sentiment

If FCPS had decided to eliminate the Sangster split feeder before this 8130 BRAC mess, the families would have been thrilled.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't live in region 4, so it doesn't effect me...but I heard that BOTH the West Springfield BRAC members are Hunt Valley parents and they did everything the could to keep Hunt Valley at West Springfield. I'm not saying the BRAC members aren't trying their best, but that's a huge bias.

Most of the volunteers from Region 4 were from Hunt Valley.

There is nothing nefarious about the selection for Region 4.

Turning Hunt Valley into a split feeder? Medford Leas remaining at HV under all the scenarios? None of that makes sense.