Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You Wootton petition people are wasting your time. There is zero chance that Wootton and QO are not getting shuffled around. There will be major changes to Wootton and QO.

+1 I don't know about major, but yes, Wootton boundary will change.

I believe Wootton and QO zone will be affected in some ways because they are so close to Crown.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You Wootton petition people are wasting your time. There is zero chance that Wootton and QO are not getting shuffled around. There will be major changes to Wootton and QO.

+1 I don't know about major, but yes, Wootton boundary will change.

The thing is, Wootton is not overcrowded and is not projected to be overcrowded in the future. There was no reason to include Wootton in the Crown study in the first place, other than to target them for FARMS and DEI goals. Churchill could have been included in the other boundary study for Woodward to address their supposed overcrowding problem and Wootton left out of both studies. A lot of the Asian community in the Wootton district (not including me since I'm not Asian, but many in my neighborhood are) feel like the Board of Education is targeting them unfairly, and I can't really say I blame them. I agree with them that it's BS that Wootton was included in any of the boundary studies to begin with. The Board could accomplish all their goals without changing anything about the Wootton cluster, so it makes sense for the Wootton community to push back as much as possible on any boundary changes for Wootton. Will it work, maybe not, but they have to try, and being fatalistic about the result just guarantees their voices won't be heard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You Wootton petition people are wasting your time. There is zero chance that Wootton and QO are not getting shuffled around. There will be major changes to Wootton and QO.

+1 I don't know about major, but yes, Wootton boundary will change.

The thing is, Wootton is not overcrowded and is not projected to be overcrowded in the future. There was no reason to include Wootton in the Crown study in the first place, other than to target them for FARMS and DEI goals. Churchill could have been included in the other boundary study for Woodward to address their supposed overcrowding problem and Wootton left out of both studies. A lot of the Asian community in the Wootton district (not including me since I'm not Asian, but many in my neighborhood are) feel like the Board of Education is targeting them unfairly, and I can't really say I blame them. I agree with them that it's BS that Wootton was included in any of the boundary studies to begin with. The Board could accomplish all their goals without changing anything about the Wootton cluster, so it makes sense for the Wootton community to push back as much as possible on any boundary changes for Wootton. Will it work, maybe not, but they have to try, and being fatalistic about the result just guarantees their voices won't be heard.

Every time we say Wootton should not be included in the boundary study, people would say it’s because Wootton has that Rio triangle which is walking distance to crown. We all knew they were not just targeting that triangle!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those concerned about or otherwise interested in the various changes being proposed to the Wootton cluster, I thought it would be helpful to have the various Change petitions compiled in one place. I've put together a list of the ones I've seen, but please add any I've missed. They seem to share the general theme of minimizing changes to Wootton, though I think the different petitions raise pretty different concerns and issues.

1) Keep Wootton together: https://www.change.org/p/urge-to-preserve-the-integrity-of-wootton-high-school-in-the-crown-boundary-process

2) Don't move Wayside ES to Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/wayside-hoover-churchill-community-on-boundary-study-strong-opposition-to-reassignment

3) Don't move a small Lakewood ES neighborhood away from Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/don-t-divide-lakewood-keep-all-our-community-together-in-wootton

4) Don't move Dufief ES away from Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/say-no-to-harmful-boundary-changes-keep-dufief-with-frost-and-wootton

There are a stone mill one and a new travillah one as well

https://chng.it/6YGjCQhp

https://chng.it/Gz4qsrPS9K

Thanks! Updated list below. To the Wayside parents who don't want to move - supporting the families who want to stay at Wootton could help your cause. And similarly for the Wootton parents who want to stay at Wootton - supporting the Wayside families that don't want to move to Wootton could help your cause.

1) Keep Wootton together: https://www.change.org/p/urge-to-preserve-the-integrity-of-wootton-high-school-in-the-crown-boundary-process

2) Don't move Wayside ES to Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/wayside-hoover-churchill-community-on-boundary-study-strong-opposition-to-reassignment

3) Don't move a small Lakewood ES neighborhood away from Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/don-t-divide-lakewood-keep-all-our-community-together-in-wootton

4) Don't move Dufief ES away from Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/say-no-to-harmful-boundary-changes-keep-dufief-with-frost-and-wootton

5) Don't move Stone Mill ES away from Wootton: https://chng.it/6YGjCQhp

6) Don't move Travilah ES away from Wootton: https://chng.it/Gz4qsrPS9K

Some of these petitions made into out office in NIH. It's awkward when co workers are asking to sign them. i don't live in these cluster and have no idea about anything. BOE should thow away all these petions. It's pretty much noise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those concerned about or otherwise interested in the various changes being proposed to the Wootton cluster, I thought it would be helpful to have the various Change petitions compiled in one place. I've put together a list of the ones I've seen, but please add any I've missed. They seem to share the general theme of minimizing changes to Wootton, though I think the different petitions raise pretty different concerns and issues.

1) Keep Wootton together: https://www.change.org/p/urge-to-preserve-the-integrity-of-wootton-high-school-in-the-crown-boundary-process

2) Don't move Wayside ES to Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/wayside-hoover-churchill-community-on-boundary-study-strong-opposition-to-reassignment

3) Don't move a small Lakewood ES neighborhood away from Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/don-t-divide-lakewood-keep-all-our-community-together-in-wootton

4) Don't move Dufief ES away from Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/say-no-to-harmful-boundary-changes-keep-dufief-with-frost-and-wootton

Can anyone at DuFief share why geographic proximity to school is uniquely unimportant to them when every other parent claims proximity to school is one of the most important factors?? What's uniquely special here that Dufief would prefer to bypass closer middle schools and high schools??

No one in writing any petition based on actual logic. Churchill portion does not want to move to Wootton and Wootton portion does not want to move to Crown. That's all. Once youi have conclusion in fornt of you then you start coming up with random arguments to support your conclusion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You Wootton petition people are wasting your time. There is zero chance that Wootton and QO are not getting shuffled around. There will be major changes to Wootton and QO.

What about the Wayside/Churchill people? Although they do have significantly more signatures, it seems they are hellbent on moving Wayside to Wootton considering it is in all four options. Hopefully these parents can make something happen. I live in Wayside area although my kids have already graduated. Just concerned Wootton isn't as desireable as Churchill despite everyone claiming it is ranked higher (like one slot higher? LOL)

My coworker who lives in Wayside was asking everyone to sign in office. That's how they have most signature. It's meaningless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You Wootton petition people are wasting your time. There is zero chance that Wootton and QO are not getting shuffled around. There will be major changes to Wootton and QO.

What about the Wayside/Churchill people? Although they do have significantly more signatures, it seems they are hellbent on moving Wayside to Wootton considering it is in all four options. Hopefully these parents can make something happen. I live in Wayside area although my kids have already graduated. Just concerned Wootton isn't as desireable as Churchill despite everyone claiming it is ranked higher (like one slot higher? LOL)

Wasting your time too. If not Wayside then it is a different school being moved out of Churchill. If all four option is have Wayside moving then that is probably a done deal.

+1

Wayside is moving to Wootton. It's a done deal. All options also avoid split articulation for Wayside ES kids due to entire school moving together.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You Wootton petition people are wasting your time. There is zero chance that Wootton and QO are not getting shuffled around. There will be major changes to Wootton and QO.

+1 I don't know about major, but yes, Wootton boundary will change.

The thing is, Wootton is not overcrowded and is not projected to be overcrowded in the future. There was no reason to include Wootton in the Crown study in the first place, other than to target them for FARMS and DEI goals.

What?

If Wootton shares boudary with over crowded schools then it makes perfect sense to include them in boudary study. Churchill is over crowded so some some portion of churchill will have to move to wootton and then some portion of Wootton will move to Crown.

Woodward is already getting filled by other schools and there was no space for taking more kids from Churchill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those concerned about or otherwise interested in the various changes being proposed to the Wootton cluster, I thought it would be helpful to have the various Change petitions compiled in one place. I've put together a list of the ones I've seen, but please add any I've missed. They seem to share the general theme of minimizing changes to Wootton, though I think the different petitions raise pretty different concerns and issues.

1) Keep Wootton together: https://www.change.org/p/urge-to-preserve-the-integrity-of-wootton-high-school-in-the-crown-boundary-process

2) Don't move Wayside ES to Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/wayside-hoover-churchill-community-on-boundary-study-strong-opposition-to-reassignment

3) Don't move a small Lakewood ES neighborhood away from Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/don-t-divide-lakewood-keep-all-our-community-together-in-wootton

4) Don't move Dufief ES away from Wootton: https://www.change.org/p/say-no-to-harmful-boundary-changes-keep-dufief-with-frost-and-wootton

Can anyone at DuFief share why geographic proximity to school is uniquely unimportant to them when every other parent claims proximity to school is one of the most important factors?? What's uniquely special here that Dufief would prefer to bypass closer middle schools and high schools??

No one in writing any petition based on actual logic. Churchill portion does not want to move to Wootton and Wootton portion does not want to move to Crown. That's all. Once youi have conclusion in fornt of you then you start coming up with random arguments to support your conclusion.

I wouldn’t lump all the petitions together like that. I agree some are lacking in logic. But others have more sound reasoning in my opinion. I also agree that people are going to adopt the arguments that best support their desired outcome, but that doesn’t mean all of the arguments are without merit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You Wootton petition people are wasting your time. There is zero chance that Wootton and QO are not getting shuffled around. There will be major changes to Wootton and QO.

+1 I don't know about major, but yes, Wootton boundary will change.

The thing is, Wootton is not overcrowded and is not projected to be overcrowded in the future. There was no reason to include Wootton in the Crown study in the first place, other than to target them for FARMS and DEI goals. Churchill could have been included in the other boundary study for Woodward to address their supposed overcrowding problem and Wootton left out of both studies. A lot of the Asian community in the Wootton district (not including me since I'm not Asian, but many in my neighborhood are) feel like the Board of Education is targeting them unfairly, and I can't really say I blame them. I agree with them that it's BS that Wootton was included in any of the boundary studies to begin with. The Board could accomplish all their goals without changing anything about the Wootton cluster, so it makes sense for the Wootton community to push back as much as possible on any boundary changes for Wootton. Will it work, maybe not, but they have to try, and being fatalistic about the result just guarantees their voices won't be heard.

This is silly. Wootton is right next to the new school. Please don't feed the victimhood mentality.

[Anonymous]

Option 4 is all around the best option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You Wootton petition people are wasting your time. There is zero chance that Wootton and QO are not getting shuffled around. There will be major changes to Wootton and QO.

+1 I don't know about major, but yes, Wootton boundary will change.

The thing is, Wootton is not overcrowded and is not projected to be overcrowded in the future. There was no reason to include Wootton in the Crown study in the first place, other than to target them for FARMS and DEI goals. Churchill could have been included in the other boundary study for Woodward to address their supposed overcrowding problem and Wootton left out of both studies. A lot of the Asian community in the Wootton district (not including me since I'm not Asian, but many in my neighborhood are) feel like the Board of Education is targeting them unfairly, and I can't really say I blame them. I agree with them that it's BS that Wootton was included in any of the boundary studies to begin with. The Board could accomplish all their goals without changing anything about the Wootton cluster, so it makes sense for the Wootton community to push back as much as possible on any boundary changes for Wootton. Will it work, maybe not, but they have to try, and being fatalistic about the result just guarantees their voices won't be heard.

Wootton is not overcrowded because their community always yells loudest to keep their school from becoming overcrowded and then other schools get overcrowded instead: see Fallsgrove being zoned for RM due to concerns about overcrowding even though its walking distance to Wootton and all thr Fallsgrove kids get busses to RM instead. Wootton is included because all neighboring clusters need to be included. Wootton continues to be undercapacity due to this exclusionary mindset and the fact that BoE has historically given in to their loud voices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Option 4 is all around the best option.

Option 4 is by far the worst. Too many weird split articulations and feed patterns. Every school splits and feed here and there. It’s a logistic nightmare. Can people have some common sense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You Wootton petition people are wasting your time. There is zero chance that Wootton and QO are not getting shuffled around. There will be major changes to Wootton and QO.

+1 I don't know about major, but yes, Wootton boundary will change.

The thing is, Wootton is not overcrowded and is not projected to be overcrowded in the future. There was no reason to include Wootton in the Crown study in the first place, other than to target them for FARMS and DEI goals. Churchill could have been included in the other boundary study for Woodward to address their supposed overcrowding problem and Wootton left out of both studies. A lot of the Asian community in the Wootton district (not including me since I'm not Asian, but many in my neighborhood are) feel like the Board of Education is targeting them unfairly, and I can't really say I blame them. I agree with them that it's BS that Wootton was included in any of the boundary studies to begin with. The Board could accomplish all their goals without changing anything about the Wootton cluster, so it makes sense for the Wootton community to push back as much as possible on any boundary changes for Wootton. Will it work, maybe not, but they have to try, and being fatalistic about the result just guarantees their voices won't be heard.

Wootton is not overcrowded because their community always yells loudest to keep their school from becoming overcrowded and then other schools get overcrowded instead: see Fallsgrove being zoned for RM due to concerns about overcrowding even though its walking distance to Wootton and all thr Fallsgrove kids get busses to RM instead. Wootton is included because all neighboring clusters need to be included. Wootton continues to be undercapacity due to this exclusionary mindset and the fact that BoE has historically given in to their loud voices.

This could not be further from the truth. Ritchie park ES is zoned for RM to balance RM diversity. One part is actually split off Wootton to achieve this agenda.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Option 4 is all around the best option.

Option 4 is by far the worst. Too many weird split articulations and feed patterns. Every school splits and feed here and there. It’s a logistic nightmare. Can people have some common sense?

All of the options are like that. Option 3 is the worst. Very strange maps for both MS and HS in option 3.

Option 4 is definitely the best.