Who are you voting for in the Dem primary for mayor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mamdani went to Bank Street K-8, which has essentially the same tuition as Trinity. As a former private K-8 parent, I suspect he went through both the private and public process, and Bronx Science was his best option (meaning he was rejected by Trinity, HM and more prestigious specialized high schools). He went on to attend a very expensive college.

I don’t know why you would assume he applied to academically selective private schools and didn’t get in - IIRC he gave a speech at one point as a student where he compared Bronx Science not with HM but with Fieldston, which is hardly a TT school academically but was nevertheless the first one he thought of. Not everybody wants an academic grind, or the school culture associated with it.

It may be that his parents were looking at progressive private high schools equivalent to Bank Street but didn’t find any to their liking and felt like saving a quarter million dollars by sending him to Bronx Science. Or it may be they didn’t even apply; I certainly know a bunch of families who left private schools for a specialized high school after 8th because they had a smart kid and felt like they’d do better there and - again - were happy to save the money.

Bronx Science and Stuy between them are I think like 3% of NYC public high school students, so the notion that he went to Bronx Science because it was the best he could do but that he was rebuffed by Horace Mann and Trinity - when he’s clearly a very personable guy with two famous parents and good enough standardized test scores to get into Bronx Science - doesn’t really pass the smell test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right. He just got into Bronx science. Must be very stupid

Anonymous wrote: It’s not Trinity or Horace Mann, to say the least.

A better comparison would be Stuy. I am the poster who said earlier that Mamdani is “top 3%” smart, not “top 1%” smart. He did well by entering Bronx science and Bowdoin but he missed on Columbia (and perhaps Stuy).

FWIW, there are plenty of “top 3%” or “top 20%” smart kids in both HM and Trinity. HM publishes a detailed breakdown of their GPA and SAT results. Top of the class stats are impressive but not everyone scores as high as the highest achievers.

This is such a dumb convo but you apparently don’t appreciate NYC geography. Mamdani lived uptown by high school. Bronx science is where those kids want to go. Stuy is way further downtown. It’s not a matter of not getting into Stuy. In NY circles, one is not considered better than the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right. He just got into Bronx science. Must be very stupid

Anonymous wrote: It’s not Trinity or Horace Mann, to say the least.

A better comparison would be Stuy. I am the poster who said earlier that Mamdani is “top 3%” smart, not “top 1%” smart. He did well by entering Bronx science and Bowdoin but he missed on Columbia (and perhaps Stuy).

FWIW, there are plenty of “top 3%” or “top 20%” smart kids in both HM and Trinity. HM publishes a detailed breakdown of their GPA and SAT results. Top of the class stats are impressive but not everyone scores as high as the highest achievers.

This is such a dumb convo but you apparently don’t appreciate NYC geography. Mamdani lived uptown by high school. Bronx science is where those kids want to go. Stuy is way further downtown. It’s not a matter of not getting into Stuy. In NY circles, one is not considered better than the other.

Stuy is a national brand in a way Bronx science is not. Bronx science isn’t that much more convenient than Stuy for an UWS resident.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mamdani went to Bank Street K-8, which has essentially the same tuition as Trinity. As a former private K-8 parent, I suspect he went through both the private and public process, and Bronx Science was his best option (meaning he was rejected by Trinity, HM and more prestigious specialized high schools). He went on to attend a very expensive college.

I don’t know why you would assume he applied to academically selective private schools and didn’t get in - IIRC he gave a speech at one point as a student where he compared Bronx Science not with HM but with Fieldston, which is hardly a TT school academically but was nevertheless the first one he thought of. Not everybody wants an academic grind, or the school culture associated with it.

It may be that his parents were looking at progressive private high schools equivalent to Bank Street but didn’t find any to their liking and felt like saving a quarter million dollars by sending him to Bronx Science. Or it may be they didn’t even apply; I certainly know a bunch of families who left private schools for a specialized high school after 8th because they had a smart kid and felt like they’d do better there and - again - were happy to save the money.

Bronx Science and Stuy between them are I think like 3% of NYC public high school students, so the notion that he went to Bronx Science because it was the best he could do but that he was rebuffed by Horace Mann and Trinity - when he’s clearly a very personable guy with two famous parents and good enough standardized test scores to get into Bronx Science - doesn’t really pass the smell test.

He very likely applied to Trinity and Collegiate for K since he was on the UWS. He probably tried to transfer in later too. Bank Street is nothing compared to them and strivers like his parents know that. He couldn’t hack it there if he ends up at Bowdoin as a black applicant.

[Anonymous]

Bronx Science was literally mentioned in a West Wing episode, it’s absolutely a national brand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He very likely applied to Trinity and Collegiate for K since he was on the UWS. He probably tried to transfer in later too. Bank Street is nothing compared to them and strivers like his parents know that. He couldn’t hack it there if he ends up at Bowdoin as a black applicant.

They moved to NYC when he was 7 so he definitely didn’t apply to those places for kindergarten.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bronx Science was literally mentioned in a West Wing episode, it’s absolutely a national brand.

So much less name recognition than Stuy and it’s not even close.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He very likely applied to Trinity and Collegiate for K since he was on the UWS. He probably tried to transfer in later too. Bank Street is nothing compared to them and strivers like his parents know that. He couldn’t hack it there if he ends up at Bowdoin as a black applicant.

They moved to NYC when he was 7 so he definitely didn’t apply to those places for kindergarten.

Oh yea. I forgot he was naturalized yesterday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh yea. I forgot he was naturalized yesterday.

And now we get to the real reason why you don’t like Mamdani, you’re just using “going to Collegiate” as some sort of bizarre proxy for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right. He just got into Bronx science. Must be very stupid

Anonymous wrote: It’s not Trinity or Horace Mann, to say the least.

A better comparison would be Stuy. I am the poster who said earlier that Mamdani is “top 3%” smart, not “top 1%” smart. He did well by entering Bronx science and Bowdoin but he missed on Columbia (and perhaps Stuy).

FWIW, there are plenty of “top 3%” or “top 20%” smart kids in both HM and Trinity. HM publishes a detailed breakdown of their GPA and SAT results. Top of the class stats are impressive but not everyone scores as high as the highest achievers.

This is such a dumb convo but you apparently don’t appreciate NYC geography. Mamdani lived uptown by high school. Bronx science is where those kids want to go. Stuy is way further downtown. It’s not a matter of not getting into Stuy. In NY circles, one is not considered better than the other.

Have you tried to get to Bronx Science from Morningside Heights? It takes about an hour by public transport.

Commute to Stuy is actually shorter (45 minutes).

Stuy absolutely has a stronger reputation than Bronx Science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right. He just got into Bronx science. Must be very stupid

Anonymous wrote: It’s not Trinity or Horace Mann, to say the least.

A better comparison would be Stuy. I am the poster who said earlier that Mamdani is “top 3%” smart, not “top 1%” smart. He did well by entering Bronx science and Bowdoin but he missed on Columbia (and perhaps Stuy).

FWIW, there are plenty of “top 3%” or “top 20%” smart kids in both HM and Trinity. HM publishes a detailed breakdown of their GPA and SAT results. Top of the class stats are impressive but not everyone scores as high as the highest achievers.

This is such a dumb convo but you apparently don’t appreciate NYC geography. Mamdani lived uptown by high school. Bronx science is where those kids want to go. Stuy is way further downtown. It’s not a matter of not getting into Stuy. In NY circles, one is not considered better than the other.

Have you tried to get to Bronx Science from Morningside Heights? It takes about an hour by public transport.

Commute to Stuy is actually shorter (45 minutes).

Stuy absolutely has a stronger reputation than Bronx Science.

Maybe if you live in Ohio and you know little of NY. In NY circles, it does not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mamdani went to Bank Street K-8, which has essentially the same tuition as Trinity. As a former private K-8 parent, I suspect he went through both the private and public process, and Bronx Science was his best option (meaning he was rejected by Trinity, HM and more prestigious specialized high schools). He went on to attend a very expensive college.

I don’t know why you would assume he applied to academically selective private schools and didn’t get in - IIRC he gave a speech at one point as a student where he compared Bronx Science not with HM but with Fieldston, which is hardly a TT school academically but was nevertheless the first one he thought of. Not everybody wants an academic grind, or the school culture associated with it.

It may be that his parents were looking at progressive private high schools equivalent to Bank Street but didn’t find any to their liking and felt like saving a quarter million dollars by sending him to Bronx Science. Or it may be they didn’t even apply; I certainly know a bunch of families who left private schools for a specialized high school after 8th because they had a smart kid and felt like they’d do better there and - again - were happy to save the money.

Bronx Science and Stuy between them are I think like 3% of NYC public high school students, so the notion that he went to Bronx Science because it was the best he could do but that he was rebuffed by Horace Mann and Trinity - when he’s clearly a very personable guy with two famous parents and good enough standardized test scores to get into Bronx Science - doesn’t really pass the smell test.

He very likely applied to Trinity and Collegiate for K since he was on the UWS. He probably tried to transfer in later too. Bank Street is nothing compared to them and strivers like his parents know that. He couldn’t hack it there if he ends up at Bowdoin as a black applicant.

I am not sure Mamdani applied to Trinity or Collegiate. He is from an ultra progressive family and these schools from 20 years ago did not fit the profile. He might have tried out Dalton but most likely he did focus on specialized high schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right. He just got into Bronx science. Must be very stupid

Anonymous wrote: It’s not Trinity or Horace Mann, to say the least.

A better comparison would be Stuy. I am the poster who said earlier that Mamdani is “top 3%” smart, not “top 1%” smart. He did well by entering Bronx science and Bowdoin but he missed on Columbia (and perhaps Stuy).

FWIW, there are plenty of “top 3%” or “top 20%” smart kids in both HM and Trinity. HM publishes a detailed breakdown of their GPA and SAT results. Top of the class stats are impressive but not everyone scores as high as the highest achievers.

This is such a dumb convo but you apparently don’t appreciate NYC geography. Mamdani lived uptown by high school. Bronx science is where those kids want to go. Stuy is way further downtown. It’s not a matter of not getting into Stuy. In NY circles, one is not considered better than the other.

Have you tried to get to Bronx Science from Morningside Heights? It takes about an hour by public transport.

Commute to Stuy is actually shorter (45 minutes).

Stuy absolutely has a stronger reputation than Bronx Science.

Inaccurate.

And again you fail to appreciate NYC geography. There’s also a bus from UWS to BS. it’s much easier to drive uptown than downtown traffic wise. I’m sure he took the subway too. But in any event, those of us who know NYC know BS is a great school and no one considers Stuy better

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right. He just got into Bronx science. Must be very stupid

Anonymous wrote: It’s not Trinity or Horace Mann, to say the least.

A better comparison would be Stuy. I am the poster who said earlier that Mamdani is “top 3%” smart, not “top 1%” smart. He did well by entering Bronx science and Bowdoin but he missed on Columbia (and perhaps Stuy).

FWIW, there are plenty of “top 3%” or “top 20%” smart kids in both HM and Trinity. HM publishes a detailed breakdown of their GPA and SAT results. Top of the class stats are impressive but not everyone scores as high as the highest achievers.

This is such a dumb convo but you apparently don’t appreciate NYC geography. Mamdani lived uptown by high school. Bronx science is where those kids want to go. Stuy is way further downtown. It’s not a matter of not getting into Stuy. In NY circles, one is not considered better than the other.

Have you tried to get to Bronx Science from Morningside Heights? It takes about an hour by public transport.

Commute to Stuy is actually shorter (45 minutes).

Stuy absolutely has a stronger reputation than Bronx Science.

Maybe if you live in Ohio and you know little of NY. In NY circles, it does not.

We have to agree to disagree. Objectively, Stuy has got higher SAT scores and lower acceptance rates.

I guess you have no comments on NYC geography.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right. He just got into Bronx science. Must be very stupid

Anonymous wrote: It’s not Trinity or Horace Mann, to say the least.

A better comparison would be Stuy. I am the poster who said earlier that Mamdani is “top 3%” smart, not “top 1%” smart. He did well by entering Bronx science and Bowdoin but he missed on Columbia (and perhaps Stuy).

FWIW, there are plenty of “top 3%” or “top 20%” smart kids in both HM and Trinity. HM publishes a detailed breakdown of their GPA and SAT results. Top of the class stats are impressive but not everyone scores as high as the highest achievers.

This is such a dumb convo but you apparently don’t appreciate NYC geography. Mamdani lived uptown by high school. Bronx science is where those kids want to go. Stuy is way further downtown. It’s not a matter of not getting into Stuy. In NY circles, one is not considered better than the other.

Have you tried to get to Bronx Science from Morningside Heights? It takes about an hour by public transport.

Commute to Stuy is actually shorter (45 minutes).

Stuy absolutely has a stronger reputation than Bronx Science.

Inaccurate.

And again you fail to appreciate NYC geography. There’s also a bus from UWS to BS. it’s much easier to drive uptown than downtown traffic wise. I’m sure he took the subway too. But in any event, those of us who know NYC know BS is a great school and no one considers Stuy better

It is easier to drive but most students do not drive to high school. Mamdani doesn’t drive now so it is a safe bet that he commuted by public transport. Commute to Stuy is pretty easy. Bronx Science is more of a pain.