Who are you voting for in the Dem primary for mayor?

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It’s not Trinity or Horace Mann, to say the least.


I’m not sure if Mamdani’s parents specifically could have afforded one of those schools at the time, but I feel the need to remind everyone that in general the vast majority of smart/talented NYC kids cannot afford to attend Trinity, and financial aid - even if it were strictly merit-based - could not remotely close that gap. Not to mention how many kids are admitted in kindergarten before anybody has a good idea how smart they are.

You can certainly argue that Trinity will offer a better education than Bronx Science, but the idea that a typical Trinity graduate is *smarter* than a typical Bronx Science graduate is bananas.
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Anonymous wrote:Right. He just got into Bronx science. Must be very stupid


Anonymous wrote: It’s not Trinity or Horace Mann, to say the least.


A better comparison would be Stuy. I am the poster who said earlier that Mamdani is “top 3%” smart, not “top 1%” smart. He did well by entering Bronx science and Bowdoin but he missed on Columbia (and perhaps Stuy).

FWIW, there are plenty of “top 3%” or “top 20%” smart kids in both HM and Trinity. HM publishes a detailed breakdown of their GPA and SAT results. Top of the class stats are impressive but not everyone scores as high as the highest achievers.
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Anonymous wrote:Seriously who told Cuomo that this sort of racist, pandering to Jewish voters, etc crap was the way to run a campaign?

Does he talk about anything he’ll actually do?


Translation: Hitler’s anti-semitism wasn’t the problem, it was his opponent not discussing what he’d actually do!
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It’s not Trinity or Horace Mann, to say the least.


I’m not sure if Mamdani’s parents specifically could have afforded one of those schools at the time, but I feel the need to remind everyone that in general the vast majority of smart/talented NYC kids cannot afford to attend Trinity, and financial aid - even if it were strictly merit-based - could not remotely close that gap. Not to mention how many kids are admitted in kindergarten before anybody has a good idea how smart they are.

You can certainly argue that Trinity will offer a better education than Bronx Science, but the idea that a typical Trinity graduate is *smarter* than a typical Bronx Science graduate is bananas.


They afforded a very expensive private school, one not nearly as competitive.

Bronx science admissions is based on a test applicants cram for over years. At Trinity you have to interview and make eye contact and take standardized tests as well. Keep in mind a ton of students join in ninth grade. Same with Horace Mann. Not many K-12 lack significant entry years later on. Thing is, and this speaks to G&T, it’s pretty obvious who will be intelligent at age five. There are numerous studies on this.
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Anonymous wrote:Right. He just got into Bronx science. Must be very stupid


Anonymous wrote: It’s not Trinity or Horace Mann, to say the least.


A better comparison would be Stuy. I am the poster who said earlier that Mamdani is “top 3%” smart, not “top 1%” smart. He did well by entering Bronx science and Bowdoin but he missed on Columbia (and perhaps Stuy).

FWIW, there are plenty of “top 3%” or “top 20%” smart kids in both HM and Trinity. HM publishes a detailed breakdown of their GPA and SAT results. Top of the class stats are impressive but not everyone scores as high as the highest achievers.


Trinity students have higher SATs at each quartile.

Unless you live in the Bronx or northern Queens, very few prefer Bronx Science over Stuy. He almost certainly wanted to stay in Manhattan but couldn’t hack it. Now he wants to take it out on Asians in G&T programs.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know grew up or worked with someone like Mamdani. Complete phony - that smile makes me ill. It was the kid who tried too hard to be clever, sucked up to the teachers, and was just overall really annoying. No one truly liked them, even the sweetest, nicest girls in the class. He was insufferable.

I just can't get past that. The only reason I would even consider him is that we all also grew up with a Cuomo and that kid wasn't too loveable either - sketchy guy who no one could really trust and was kind of a jerk.



He fakes his accents depending on who he’s talking to. It’s phony.


I haven’t noticed this. Link.

But it’s called code shifting and is common for people who are ‘other’ and who have moved around to different cultures.


It’s so much more than code switching. It’s a con.

https://x.com/graffcarmandy/status/1982168344087130135?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA

This is from nbc 4 https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1937239485491609861?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA


Oh right. Mamdani is the con in the system. Not creepy Cuomo. Not corrupt Trump. A guy with a blended background who wants to help people. Got it.

Are all these posts worth the 7k? Is it worth selling your soul to a foreign entity?


He lied about his “aunt” and the hijab story but we will give him a pass on that too.

He lies about his ethnicity but we will give him a pass on that too.

All he does is lie and con but people refuse to see it! Why? I don’t get it.


Lies


He told colleges he was black and still couldn’t get into Columbia with a parent on the faculty. Not a sharp man. If you’re black from Bronx science with a triple digit IQ you should be going to Harvard.


More lies. He said he was African American. He is indeed from Africa.



I have white friends who moved to the US from South Africa when they were older than him. They did not have the chutzpah to claim they were "African American" even though they were more so than he was. He knew very well what it meant. Note that I think the whole thing is dumb and shouldn't even exist. I despise Trump and hate how he is handling this but he is not all wrong.

That smarmy smile of his drives me bonkers - such a phony. The problem being that Cuomo is not exactly Mr. sincerity either. But the difference is that most Cuomo voters admit that they are not happy about it while Mamdani's supporters get so defensive and refuse to admit his limitations.


Whites are not considered native to SA. Mamdani is a POC and from Africa and of SE Asian descent.


Asians aren’t native to SA. They were thrown out of Uganda because they’re colonists.


By this token, if you’re not Native American, you should be thrown out of the US.
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Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know grew up or worked with someone like Mamdani. Complete phony - that smile makes me ill. It was the kid who tried too hard to be clever, sucked up to the teachers, and was just overall really annoying. No one truly liked them, even the sweetest, nicest girls in the class. He was insufferable.

I just can't get past that. The only reason I would even consider him is that we all also grew up with a Cuomo and that kid wasn't too loveable either - sketchy guy who no one could really trust and was kind of a jerk.



He fakes his accents depending on who he’s talking to. It’s phony.


I haven’t noticed this. Link.

But it’s called code shifting and is common for people who are ‘other’ and who have moved around to different cultures.


It’s so much more than code switching. It’s a con.

https://x.com/graffcarmandy/status/1982168344087130135?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA

This is from nbc 4 https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1937239485491609861?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA


Oh right. Mamdani is the con in the system. Not creepy Cuomo. Not corrupt Trump. A guy with a blended background who wants to help people. Got it.

Are all these posts worth the 7k? Is it worth selling your soul to a foreign entity?


He lied about his “aunt” and the hijab story but we will give him a pass on that too.

He lies about his ethnicity but we will give him a pass on that too.

All he does is lie and con but people refuse to see it! Why? I don’t get it.


Lies


He told colleges he was black and still couldn’t get into Columbia with a parent on the faculty. Not a sharp man. If you’re black from Bronx science with a triple digit IQ you should be going to Harvard.


More lies. He said he was African American. He is indeed from Africa.



I have white friends who moved to the US from South Africa when they were older than him. They did not have the chutzpah to claim they were "African American" even though they were more so than he was. He knew very well what it meant. Note that I think the whole thing is dumb and shouldn't even exist. I despise Trump and hate how he is handling this but he is not all wrong.

That smarmy smile of his drives me bonkers - such a phony. The problem being that Cuomo is not exactly Mr. sincerity either. But the difference is that most Cuomo voters admit that they are not happy about it while Mamdani's supporters get so defensive and refuse to admit his limitations.


Correct. You can see that smarmy smile when he checked African American. Columbia’s admissions committee smacked that smile off his face, couldn’t even get in as a nepo baby with affirmative action. He is NOT intelligent


Right. He just got into Bronx science. Must be very stupid


It’s not Trinity or Horace Mann, to say the least.


Correct. It’s far more impressive.
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Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know grew up or worked with someone like Mamdani. Complete phony - that smile makes me ill. It was the kid who tried too hard to be clever, sucked up to the teachers, and was just overall really annoying. No one truly liked them, even the sweetest, nicest girls in the class. He was insufferable.

I just can't get past that. The only reason I would even consider him is that we all also grew up with a Cuomo and that kid wasn't too loveable either - sketchy guy who no one could really trust and was kind of a jerk.



He fakes his accents depending on who he’s talking to. It’s phony.


I haven’t noticed this. Link.

But it’s called code shifting and is common for people who are ‘other’ and who have moved around to different cultures.


It’s so much more than code switching. It’s a con.

https://x.com/graffcarmandy/status/1982168344087130135?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA

This is from nbc 4 https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1937239485491609861?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA


Oh right. Mamdani is the con in the system. Not creepy Cuomo. Not corrupt Trump. A guy with a blended background who wants to help people. Got it.

Are all these posts worth the 7k? Is it worth selling your soul to a foreign entity?


He lied about his “aunt” and the hijab story but we will give him a pass on that too.

He lies about his ethnicity but we will give him a pass on that too.

All he does is lie and con but people refuse to see it! Why? I don’t get it.


Lies


He told colleges he was black and still couldn’t get into Columbia with a parent on the faculty. Not a sharp man. If you’re black from Bronx science with a triple digit IQ you should be going to Harvard.


More lies. He said he was African American. He is indeed from Africa.



I have white friends who moved to the US from South Africa when they were older than him. They did not have the chutzpah to claim they were "African American" even though they were more so than he was. He knew very well what it meant. Note that I think the whole thing is dumb and shouldn't even exist. I despise Trump and hate how he is handling this but he is not all wrong.

That smarmy smile of his drives me bonkers - such a phony. The problem being that Cuomo is not exactly Mr. sincerity either. But the difference is that most Cuomo voters admit that they are not happy about it while Mamdani's supporters get so defensive and refuse to admit his limitations.


Whites are not considered native to SA. Mamdani is a POC and from Africa and of SE Asian descent.


Asians aren’t native to SA. They were thrown out of Uganda because they’re colonists.


By this token, if you’re not Native American, you should be thrown out of the US.


Okay. Then white Afrikaner refugees from South Africa should go to Harvard with 1200s on the SAT. They were in Africa longer than Asians.
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Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know grew up or worked with someone like Mamdani. Complete phony - that smile makes me ill. It was the kid who tried too hard to be clever, sucked up to the teachers, and was just overall really annoying. No one truly liked them, even the sweetest, nicest girls in the class. He was insufferable.

I just can't get past that. The only reason I would even consider him is that we all also grew up with a Cuomo and that kid wasn't too loveable either - sketchy guy who no one could really trust and was kind of a jerk.



He fakes his accents depending on who he’s talking to. It’s phony.


I haven’t noticed this. Link.

But it’s called code shifting and is common for people who are ‘other’ and who have moved around to different cultures.


It’s so much more than code switching. It’s a con.

https://x.com/graffcarmandy/status/1982168344087130135?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA

This is from nbc 4 https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1937239485491609861?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA


Oh right. Mamdani is the con in the system. Not creepy Cuomo. Not corrupt Trump. A guy with a blended background who wants to help people. Got it.

Are all these posts worth the 7k? Is it worth selling your soul to a foreign entity?


He lied about his “aunt” and the hijab story but we will give him a pass on that too.

He lies about his ethnicity but we will give him a pass on that too.

All he does is lie and con but people refuse to see it! Why? I don’t get it.


Lies


He told colleges he was black and still couldn’t get into Columbia with a parent on the faculty. Not a sharp man. If you’re black from Bronx science with a triple digit IQ you should be going to Harvard.


More lies. He said he was African American. He is indeed from Africa.



I have white friends who moved to the US from South Africa when they were older than him. They did not have the chutzpah to claim they were "African American" even though they were more so than he was. He knew very well what it meant. Note that I think the whole thing is dumb and shouldn't even exist. I despise Trump and hate how he is handling this but he is not all wrong.

That smarmy smile of his drives me bonkers - such a phony. The problem being that Cuomo is not exactly Mr. sincerity either. But the difference is that most Cuomo voters admit that they are not happy about it while Mamdani's supporters get so defensive and refuse to admit his limitations.


Correct. You can see that smarmy smile when he checked African American. Columbia’s admissions committee smacked that smile off his face, couldn’t even get in as a nepo baby with affirmative action. He is NOT intelligent


Right. He just got into Bronx science. Must be very stupid


It’s not Trinity or Horace Mann, to say the least.


Correct. It’s far more impressive.


College admissions officers and employers would beg to differ
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This is a thread about the New York City mayor election people. Take your other stuff elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a thread about the New York City mayor election people. Take your other stuff elsewhere.



It is relevant to Mamdani’s integrity. Lying about your race to colleges and not getting into ones you have ample connections to speaks to inauthenticity and lack of intelligence
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Anonymous wrote:Bronx science admissions is based on a test applicants cram for over years. At Trinity you have to interview and make eye contact and take standardized tests as well. Keep in mind a ton of students join in ninth grade. Same with Horace Mann. Not many K-12 lack significant entry years later on. Thing is, and this speaks to G&T, it’s pretty obvious who will be intelligent at age five. There are numerous studies on this.


People also cram for the ISEE/SSAT for years. And the SAT for college. We still accept those as measurements of intelligence.

And this doesn't address my larger point, which is that most smart kids can't afford to attend Trinity. If they're smart in a way that's difficult to demonstrate on the SHSAT they might go to Beacon, which is 50% grades / 50% essay, or Townsend Harris, which is 60% grades / 20% essay / 20% video and hence requires a lot of the same skills that would help you do well on an interview, but basically, out of all of the smart kids in NYC, very few of them would even have the option to attend Trinity, regardless of how smart they are.
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Anonymous wrote:Bronx science admissions is based on a test applicants cram for over years. At Trinity you have to interview and make eye contact and take standardized tests as well. Keep in mind a ton of students join in ninth grade. Same with Horace Mann. Not many K-12 lack significant entry years later on. Thing is, and this speaks to G&T, it’s pretty obvious who will be intelligent at age five. There are numerous studies on this.


People also cram for the ISEE/SSAT for years. And the SAT for college. We still accept those as measurements of intelligence.

And this doesn't address my larger point, which is that most smart kids can't afford to attend Trinity. If they're smart in a way that's difficult to demonstrate on the SHSAT they might go to Beacon, which is 50% grades / 50% essay, or Townsend Harris, which is 60% grades / 20% essay / 20% video and hence requires a lot of the same skills that would help you do well on an interview, but basically, out of all of the smart kids in NYC, very few of them would even have the option to attend Trinity, regardless of how smart they are.


And most NYC private school families have zero interest in Stuy or Bronx Science. Every bottom of the barrel graduate of Dalton would be in the top half of Bronx Science. NYC public elementary and middle schools are atrocious, the competition to get into the decent high schools (Stuy, Bronx Science) isn’t that fierce. When 97% of applicants are morons, being in that top 2% isn’t that tough.

A kid born into wealth is much more likely to be capable of studying his way into Bronx Science then applying and getting into Trinity. The competition is ferocious.
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Anonymous wrote:Bronx science admissions is based on a test applicants cram for over years. At Trinity you have to interview and make eye contact and take standardized tests as well. Keep in mind a ton of students join in ninth grade. Same with Horace Mann. Not many K-12 lack significant entry years later on. Thing is, and this speaks to G&T, it’s pretty obvious who will be intelligent at age five. There are numerous studies on this.


People also cram for the ISEE/SSAT for years. And the SAT for college. We still accept those as measurements of intelligence.

And this doesn't address my larger point, which is that most smart kids can't afford to attend Trinity. If they're smart in a way that's difficult to demonstrate on the SHSAT they might go to Beacon, which is 50% grades / 50% essay, or Townsend Harris, which is 60% grades / 20% essay / 20% video and hence requires a lot of the same skills that would help you do well on an interview, but basically, out of all of the smart kids in NYC, very few of them would even have the option to attend Trinity, regardless of how smart they are.


Mamdani went to Bank Street K-8, which has essentially the same tuition as Trinity. As a former private K-8 parent, I suspect he went through both the private and public process, and Bronx Science was his best option (meaning he was rejected by Trinity, HM and more prestigious specialized high schools). He went on to attend a very expensive college.
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Anonymous wrote:Bronx science admissions is based on a test applicants cram for over years. At Trinity you have to interview and make eye contact and take standardized tests as well. Keep in mind a ton of students join in ninth grade. Same with Horace Mann. Not many K-12 lack significant entry years later on. Thing is, and this speaks to G&T, it’s pretty obvious who will be intelligent at age five. There are numerous studies on this.


People also cram for the ISEE/SSAT for years. And the SAT for college. We still accept those as measurements of intelligence.

And this doesn't address my larger point, which is that most smart kids can't afford to attend Trinity. If they're smart in a way that's difficult to demonstrate on the SHSAT they might go to Beacon, which is 50% grades / 50% essay, or Townsend Harris, which is 60% grades / 20% essay / 20% video and hence requires a lot of the same skills that would help you do well on an interview, but basically, out of all of the smart kids in NYC, very few of them would even have the option to attend Trinity, regardless of how smart they are.


Mamdani went to Bank Street K-8, which has essentially the same tuition as Trinity. As a former private K-8 parent, I suspect he went through both the private and public process, and Bronx Science was his best option (meaning he was rejected by Trinity, HM and more prestigious specialized high schools). He went on to attend a very expensive college.


Right. At every step of the way he didn’t get into the cognitively demanding program he wanted whether it was Trinity, Stuy, or Columbia. Being black wasn’t even enough!
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