Navy Elementary New Principal

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone planning on attending this meeting? Can we listen in online?

The email asks parents to register and go to a community meeting at another school. This doesn’t seem right at all.

Anyone from the FCPS community is invited to come and that school is the location where the meeting is behind held. It is a community wide event and not specifically for that one school.

Except the email specifically is encouraging Navy families to come and air grievances about the new Navy principal. Shame on whoever is involved.

All this because the new principal isn’t as easily swayed by PTA moms?

I'm not going to paste the email, but it made reference to a couple of recent incidents where there was apparently police involvement but the school community was not notified. I can't verify whether the information is true or not -- I had not heard anything about either incident. It is concerning if true. The other part of the email referred to staff feeling unsupported. That part came off more whiny to me and not something that a parent should be bringing up on behalf of teachers, in my opinion. It makes the teachers look bad. Clearly someone is complaining to parents. Even if you hate your principal that is unprofessional. At Navy the lines between parents and teachers are a little too blurry sometimes. Maybe parents shouldn't be allowed to frequently sub at their kids' own school. You want to make money as a sub, do it somewhere else. Don't do it so you can spy on your kid's school day and get the best teacher placements for your kid.

This gossip shouldn’t be spread in a malicious email like this. This quite frankly is looking more and more like a witch hunt. It honestly all sounds like sour grapes.

For police involvement I was there when the cop interviewed a kid next to the sign in sign out laptop. I think the interview should have taken place somewhere more private.

“Interview”? BS. More like a question.

I can repeat the particulars. The cop was asking questions for the entire 5 min while I waited for my kid.

Had to do with what was said, religion, what classes they had together (6th grade AAP) etc.

I still fail to see how that shows we need a new principal. Our current one is fantastic.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear a lot of whining but no legitimate reasons of concern regarding the new principal. He seems present and engaged with the students. Students do really like him and from a parent perspective, I see no issues either.

As for staff morale, they’ve all been complaining of burn out since 2020. TBH most parents are totally over the “burnt out” teacher rhetoric esp at a school like Navy where teachers are spoiled by parents and the PTA well beyond what most other teachers across the district get. Half of them are checked out anyways and maybe it’s better for them to leave if they are not going to properly teach and engage students.

This is a great school for teachers who love to teach. The parents will take care of you like no other school in the area. If you are a teacher you should seek Navy out.

Please stop acting like Starbucks and muffins is spoiling teachers just STOP you sound entitled and condescending. Maybe we should talk about whiny, checked out parents constantly demeaning educators... rumors are NAVY parents are extremely entitled. I'd keep looking teachers!

LOL just Starbucks and muffins? Try $1000s in gift cards over the course of the year for holidays, birthdays and EOY. Try an entire week of teacher appreciation full of daily catered meals, ice cream trucks, coffee stations, dessert bars, entire gift card bouquets, not to mention all the other gifts given independently by students. Try a form filled out by every teacher stating their likes and dislikes so gifts can be bought accordingly.

Parents and the PTA accommodate all of this and much more to keep the teachers happy, but it is unappreciated by some. Navy does have some amazing teachers, but a few of definitely grown complacent and complain nonstop about burn out. It’s time to grow up and be grateful. There are so many other schools in our district who don’t get even a small fraction of the gifts and resources that Navy teachers get.

Maybe they don't want gobs of food and trinkets. Maybe they want you to trust them to do their jobs. Maybe they want you to take all that money and ask them what they want...what they actually need...they can buy their own snacks.

They fill out a wishlist for the PTO for Christ’s sake and have long lists on Amazon for wishlists. Don’t you dare tell me teachers aren’t getting what they want.

Someone higher up said they got 80K worth of projectors. That's pretty cool. I dare you to cut out all the BS snacks and gift cards and only spend PTO money on items to be used for instruction by the teachers for the kids. The lazy ones will always be lazy, can't do much about that, but you can improve how you spend your precious dollars on the others.

"The lazy ones will always be lazy, can't do much about that"

That's the problem! We should be able to do something about that. Instead they go after a new principal. They've shown more dignity and grace towards a drunk driver than to an honest man trying to improve the school for the community. You navy teachers are disgusting. We'll see who shows up at the meeting to take down an innocent man trying to do his job.

Ugh not a Navy teacher but wow....now we know why teachers steer clear of this place. Your behavior is toxic in this post. Hope the principal and poor teachers at this school RUN!

We don’t want the new principal to run. We want him to stay and stand up to those that would tear down his reputation for no other reason than the teacher entitlements. Please do show Reid these posts. They don’t make you teachers look good at all and will generate sympathy for your malicious cause.

You sound pretty nuts.

You sound like the a navy teacher spending her evening responding to every post.

After a hard day of showing videos and handing out slides. Then yelling at children for not paying attention.

You all do realize there is a teacher shortage. I don't know why the teachers are mad at the principal but I am sure there is a valid reason. I hope that both sides can come to a compromise and find some middle ground and work out whatever the issue is.

Stop pretending to post as a non-navy teacher. So fake! What compromise are you looking for? You are trying to get him fired and replace him with the previous administration.

I am not a teacher you dimwit. I am an IT professional. I made 3x as much as a teacher does and work an easy 40 hour week in my own quiet office with no one to bother me. I am so grateful for the teachers working their butts off so I am afforded the privilege to sit in this office and not have to teach my own kid. Whatever the teacher wants, I am happy to give. I also have the utmost respect for the principal as his job is my no means an easy one. You, however, are a coward. You sit behind a screen of anonymity spewing your acrimony. I feel sorry for you.

You are so obviously a teacher. Did you use ChatGPT to help with that fake post?

No and no. You are a fool.

Okay you’re an IT professional working at the IT store or IT factory for a gajillion dollars having such an easy relaxed thanks to amazing teachers. Sure you’re definitely not a fake poster. Lol

And you sound to be incredibly unintelligent. Have you read other posts on this forum? Particularly the ones where people are complaining of a lack of teachers or having a teacher-in-training with little qualifications and no experience? If not, then I suggest you do a search and then come back here and post about what an incredible ignoramus you are and you can thank me for enlightening you. Signed, a parent (not a teacher)

Maybe you can explain it better to me with one of your amazing slideshows Ms. Navy Teacher pretending to be an IT professional.

+1 no way an IT professional just happens to trickle in to the Navy thread and get incensed about what’s going on in the FCPS forum. LOL.

You do realize that the majority of working parents are the school work some IT related job right?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone planning on attending this meeting? Can we listen in online?

The email asks parents to register and go to a community meeting at another school. This doesn’t seem right at all.

Anyone from the FCPS community is invited to come and that school is the location where the meeting is behind held. It is a community wide event and not specifically for that one school.

Except the email specifically is encouraging Navy families to come and air grievances about the new Navy principal. Shame on whoever is involved.

All this because the new principal isn’t as easily swayed by PTA moms?

I'm not going to paste the email, but it made reference to a couple of recent incidents where there was apparently police involvement but the school community was not notified. I can't verify whether the information is true or not -- I had not heard anything about either incident. It is concerning if true. The other part of the email referred to staff feeling unsupported. That part came off more whiny to me and not something that a parent should be bringing up on behalf of teachers, in my opinion. It makes the teachers look bad. Clearly someone is complaining to parents. Even if you hate your principal that is unprofessional. At Navy the lines between parents and teachers are a little too blurry sometimes. Maybe parents shouldn't be allowed to frequently sub at their kids' own school. You want to make money as a sub, do it somewhere else. Don't do it so you can spy on your kid's school day and get the best teacher placements for your kid.

This gossip shouldn’t be spread in a malicious email like this. This quite frankly is looking more and more like a witch hunt. It honestly all sounds like sour grapes.

For police involvement I was there when the cop interviewed a kid next to the sign in sign out laptop. I think the interview should have taken place somewhere more private.

“Interview”? BS. More like a question.

I can repeat the particulars. The cop was asking questions for the entire 5 min while I waited for my kid.

Had to do with what was said, religion, what classes they had together (6th grade AAP) etc.

I still fail to see how that shows we need a new principal. Our current one is fantastic.

That is your opinion, although I do not have any complaints about him. He seems totally adequate. Obviously there is some issue with the teachers so I hope that the they figure out a way to keep everyone happy.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone planning on attending this meeting? Can we listen in online?

The email asks parents to register and go to a community meeting at another school. This doesn’t seem right at all.

Anyone from the FCPS community is invited to come and that school is the location where the meeting is behind held. It is a community wide event and not specifically for that one school.

Except the email specifically is encouraging Navy families to come and air grievances about the new Navy principal. Shame on whoever is involved.

All this because the new principal isn’t as easily swayed by PTA moms?

I'm not going to paste the email, but it made reference to a couple of recent incidents where there was apparently police involvement but the school community was not notified. I can't verify whether the information is true or not -- I had not heard anything about either incident. It is concerning if true. The other part of the email referred to staff feeling unsupported. That part came off more whiny to me and not something that a parent should be bringing up on behalf of teachers, in my opinion. It makes the teachers look bad. Clearly someone is complaining to parents. Even if you hate your principal that is unprofessional. At Navy the lines between parents and teachers are a little too blurry sometimes. Maybe parents shouldn't be allowed to frequently sub at their kids' own school. You want to make money as a sub, do it somewhere else. Don't do it so you can spy on your kid's school day and get the best teacher placements for your kid.

This gossip shouldn’t be spread in a malicious email like this. This quite frankly is looking more and more like a witch hunt. It honestly all sounds like sour grapes.

For police involvement I was there when the cop interviewed a kid next to the sign in sign out laptop. I think the interview should have taken place somewhere more private.

“Interview”? BS. More like a question.

I can repeat the particulars. The cop was asking questions for the entire 5 min while I waited for my kid.

Had to do with what was said, religion, what classes they had together (6th grade AAP) etc.

I still fail to see how that shows we need a new principal. Our current one is fantastic.

That is your opinion, although I do not have any complaints about him. He seems totally adequate. Obviously there is some issue with the teachers so I hope that the they figure out a way to keep everyone happy.

The issue is he’s not Jon, who let the teachers walk all over him and get away with doing the bare minimum. Now there are higher expectations and some of the teachers who weren’t used to putting in much effort are being called to task. They should leave next year and it sounds like some will do next year should be good.

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I think the real issue is that some of the staff don’t like him. There is no safety issue whatsoever - what a crock of sh*t. Then those staff should leave.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the real issue is that some of the staff don’t like him. There is no safety issue whatsoever - what a crock of sh*t. Then those staff should leave.

To the parents and teachers involved with this effort to smear the new principal’s reputation, have you even once stepped out of your neighborhood echo chamber to see how this effort to take him down for literally doing nothing wrong comes off as racist to most of the Navy community?

You don’t like him, but you can’t articulate one valid reason why. You create a fake security issue to bolster your point and send mass emails to bring him down. This is literally so blatantly racist. Check yourselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the real issue is that some of the staff don’t like him. There is no safety issue whatsoever - what a crock of sh*t. Then those staff should leave.

To the parents and teachers involved with this effort to smear the new principal’s reputation, have you even once stepped out of your neighborhood echo chamber to see how this effort to take him down for literally doing nothing wrong comes off as racist to most of the Navy community?

You don’t like him, but you can’t articulate one valid reason why. You create a fake security issue to bolster your point and send mass emails to bring him down. This is literally so blatantly racist. Check yourselves.

+1 and isn’t it completely weird for one of the subs to be part of this?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the real issue is that some of the staff don’t like him. There is no safety issue whatsoever - what a crock of sh*t. Then those staff should leave.

To the parents and teachers involved with this effort to smear the new principal’s reputation, have you even once stepped out of your neighborhood echo chamber to see how this effort to take him down for literally doing nothing wrong comes off as racist to most of the Navy community?

You don’t like him, but you can’t articulate one valid reason why. You create a fake security issue to bolster your point and send mass emails to bring him down. This is literally so blatantly racist. Check yourselves.

That is what racists do. They isolate the individual they are targeting, ostracize them and gather up large groups to exclude and demean the individual to the point that they are forced out. Typical bullying racist behavior on the playground or the work world. Fortunately, we live in a day and age where the racists are easily spotted, condemned and called out for their behavior. People are much more savvy today, but a few others think they can still act like this is the 1950s.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the real issue is that some of the staff don’t like him. There is no safety issue whatsoever - what a crock of sh*t. Then those staff should leave.

To the parents and teachers involved with this effort to smear the new principal’s reputation, have you even once stepped out of your neighborhood echo chamber to see how this effort to take him down for literally doing nothing wrong comes off as racist to most of the Navy community?

You don’t like him, but you can’t articulate one valid reason why. You create a fake security issue to bolster your point and send mass emails to bring him down. This is literally so blatantly racist. Check yourselves.

That is what racists do. They isolate the individual they are targeting, ostracize them and gather up large groups to exclude and demean the individual to the point that they are forced out. Typical bullying racist behavior on the playground or the work world. Fortunately, we live in a day and age where the racists are easily spotted, condemned and called out for their behavior. People are much more savvy today, but a few others think they can still act like this is the 1950s.

I tend to agree with some of this but I can't go along with the racism accusations. These accusations are baseless and take away from your credibility.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the real issue is that some of the staff don’t like him. There is no safety issue whatsoever - what a crock of sh*t. Then those staff should leave.

To the parents and teachers involved with this effort to smear the new principal’s reputation, have you even once stepped out of your neighborhood echo chamber to see how this effort to take him down for literally doing nothing wrong comes off as racist to most of the Navy community?

You don’t like him, but you can’t articulate one valid reason why. You create a fake security issue to bolster your point and send mass emails to bring him down. This is literally so blatantly racist. Check yourselves.

That is what racists do. They isolate the individual they are targeting, ostracize them and gather up large groups to exclude and demean the individual to the point that they are forced out. Typical bullying racist behavior on the playground or the work world. Fortunately, we live in a day and age where the racists are easily spotted, condemned and called out for their behavior. People are much more savvy today, but a few others think they can still act like this is the 1950s.

I tend to agree with some of this but I can't go along with the racism accusations. These accusations are baseless and take away from your credibility.

You are entitled to your opinion. Fact is, most of our community sees it as such. Esp when different standards of acceptable behavior are applied to the prior administration versus this one.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the real issue is that some of the staff don’t like him. There is no safety issue whatsoever - what a crock of sh*t. Then those staff should leave.

To the parents and teachers involved with this effort to smear the new principal’s reputation, have you even once stepped out of your neighborhood echo chamber to see how this effort to take him down for literally doing nothing wrong comes off as racist to most of the Navy community?

You don’t like him, but you can’t articulate one valid reason why. You create a fake security issue to bolster your point and send mass emails to bring him down. This is literally so blatantly racist. Check yourselves.

That is what racists do. They isolate the individual they are targeting, ostracize them and gather up large groups to exclude and demean the individual to the point that they are forced out. Typical bullying racist behavior on the playground or the work world. Fortunately, we live in a day and age where the racists are easily spotted, condemned and called out for their behavior. People are much more savvy today, but a few others think they can still act like this is the 1950s.

I tend to agree with some of this but I can't go along with the racism accusations. These accusations are baseless and take away from your credibility.

The accusations against the principal regarding school safety are baseless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the real issue is that some of the staff don’t like him. There is no safety issue whatsoever - what a crock of sh*t. Then those staff should leave.

To the parents and teachers involved with this effort to smear the new principal’s reputation, have you even once stepped out of your neighborhood echo chamber to see how this effort to take him down for literally doing nothing wrong comes off as racist to most of the Navy community?

You don’t like him, but you can’t articulate one valid reason why. You create a fake security issue to bolster your point and send mass emails to bring him down. This is literally so blatantly racist. Check yourselves.

That is what racists do. They isolate the individual they are targeting, ostracize them and gather up large groups to exclude and demean the individual to the point that they are forced out. Typical bullying racist behavior on the playground or the work world. Fortunately, we live in a day and age where the racists are easily spotted, condemned and called out for their behavior. People are much more savvy today, but a few others think they can still act like this is the 1950s.

I tend to agree with some of this but I can't go along with the racism accusations. These accusations are baseless and take away from your credibility.

Everyone knows who the racists are in the school, community and even our neighborhoods. It’s talked about openly. We don’t need your “credibility” when actions speak for themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the real issue is that some of the staff don’t like him. There is no safety issue whatsoever - what a crock of sh*t. Then those staff should leave.

To the parents and teachers involved with this effort to smear the new principal’s reputation, have you even once stepped out of your neighborhood echo chamber to see how this effort to take him down for literally doing nothing wrong comes off as racist to most of the Navy community?

You don’t like him, but you can’t articulate one valid reason why. You create a fake security issue to bolster your point and send mass emails to bring him down. This is literally so blatantly racist. Check yourselves.

That is what racists do. They isolate the individual they are targeting, ostracize them and gather up large groups to exclude and demean the individual to the point that they are forced out. Typical bullying racist behavior on the playground or the work world. Fortunately, we live in a day and age where the racists are easily spotted, condemned and called out for their behavior. People are much more savvy today, but a few others think they can still act like this is the 1950s.

I tend to agree with some of this but I can't go along with the racism accusations. These accusations are baseless and take away from your credibility.

You are entitled to your opinion. Fact is, most of our community sees it as such. Esp when different standards of acceptable behavior are applied to the prior administration versus this one.

+1 Dr. Reid will see it as racist too, I’m sure.

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Is anyone going to the meeting? I am planning to speak up in support of our new principal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the real issue is that some of the staff don’t like him. There is no safety issue whatsoever - what a crock of sh*t. Then those staff should leave.

To the parents and teachers involved with this effort to smear the new principal’s reputation, have you even once stepped out of your neighborhood echo chamber to see how this effort to take him down for literally doing nothing wrong comes off as racist to most of the Navy community?

You don’t like him, but you can’t articulate one valid reason why. You create a fake security issue to bolster your point and send mass emails to bring him down. This is literally so blatantly racist. Check yourselves.

That is what racists do. They isolate the individual they are targeting, ostracize them and gather up large groups to exclude and demean the individual to the point that they are forced out. Typical bullying racist behavior on the playground or the work world. Fortunately, we live in a day and age where the racists are easily spotted, condemned and called out for their behavior. People are much more savvy today, but a few others think they can still act like this is the 1950s.

I tend to agree with some of this but I can't go along with the racism accusations. These accusations are baseless and take away from your credibility.

Everyone knows who the racists are in the school, community and even our neighborhoods. It’s talked about openly. We don’t need your “credibility” when actions speak for themselves.

Your statement contains no facts in support of your argument.