Official TJ Admissions Decisions Results for the Class of 2025

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Anonymous wrote:In other news, there is a huge controversy at a major sports competition going on in Tokyo. A group of URMs (under-represented medalists) are urging for changes as they have historically been winning way fewer medals compared to their population. Of particular concern is Olympic-level preparation and coaching. It has been alleged that some athletes benefit from working too hard and being coached. The newly form URM group has hired Scott Brabrand to enforce equity at the games. Scott has promised that the event will be reformed with quotas from each of the member countries to make sure the mix of medalists is more in line with the general world population. Also, coaches are to be sent for reform to a special equity training camp. Scott has previous successful experience reforming a top institution in the US and promises to do so with this event. Scott said: "By the time I am done with this with this place, preparation and coaching will be a thing of the past. We'll make sure there is equity in the realm of nations and that over-prepared, talentless competitors are duly punished."


Literally no one has ever come into this forum and explained with any logic or reason why athletic competitions should be treated AT ALL like TJ admissions.

People keep trying to make the comparison and they never actually put two and two together.



They are comparable. They were both based on the principle of meritocracy. Everyone had an opportunity to try-out and some did better than others and made the cut. We didn’t worry about race, size, wealth, effort, potential, or any other factor. It was based on performance during a process of trying to be good enough to make the cut. Some kids are simply naturally better than others or better coached or played more little league or travel and it would be wrong to artificially advance the cause of the kids that simply didn’t make the cut because they aren’t as naturally gifted, didn’t play little league, haven’t reached what you believe to be their potential, or had crappy coaches. If the kids that made the team happened to be predominantly one race, we didn’t care because performance decided the outcome. With TJ, when Asians far outperformed their peers, it was suddenly a problem.



It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance enhancing drugs are judged worthy


You have the wrong group. That would be the white parents.
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Anonymous wrote:In other news, there is a huge controversy at a major sports competition going on in Tokyo. A group of URMs (under-represented medalists) are urging for changes as they have historically been winning way fewer medals compared to their population. Of particular concern is Olympic-level preparation and coaching. It has been alleged that some athletes benefit from working too hard and being coached. The newly form URM group has hired Scott Brabrand to enforce equity at the games. Scott has promised that the event will be reformed with quotas from each of the member countries to make sure the mix of medalists is more in line with the general world population. Also, coaches are to be sent for reform to a special equity training camp. Scott has previous successful experience reforming a top institution in the US and promises to do so with this event. Scott said: "By the time I am done with this with this place, preparation and coaching will be a thing of the past. We'll make sure there is equity in the realm of nations and that over-prepared, talentless competitors are duly punished."


And they will institute a lottery system to award all Olympic medals. They concluded that the environment has become too toxic and the competition too cut throat. We cannot have these human beings prepping for excessive hours since age 6. That will lead to permanent physical and psychological damage.


I feel bad for these people. Their had their childhood robbed from them. They should have enjoyed their childhood. What a shame.



These athletes come across as one dimensional.


Just defund Olympics


I think the old system was flawed, but it is funny to see people complain about families sacrificing for their kids' academic achievements.

Article in WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/team-usa-soccer-olympics-sisters-mewis-11626667639

Kristie and Same Mewis. Family spends 12K a year for soccer. Millions of families do this, whether it is for piano, ice hockey, or math and science.

Changing TJ admissions will not change this.


Scott added: "It's totally unacceptable that US and Australia representing a tiny fraction of the population get a lion share of the medals ...". His boss Qarni reaffirmed "They prepped from a very young age. You will notice the prepping done in those countries is of mostly one race. The prepping is like taking illegal performance enhancing drugs".


Qualifying heats will be replaced with a holistic review of the athletes' backgrounds, with "experience factors" such as the quality of the athletes' shoes, lack of access to protein shakes, and body mass index taken into account (except for judo).
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Anonymous wrote:In other news, there is a huge controversy at a major sports competition going on in Tokyo. A group of URMs (under-represented medalists) are urging for changes as they have historically been winning way fewer medals compared to their population. Of particular concern is Olympic-level preparation and coaching. It has been alleged that some athletes benefit from working too hard and being coached. The newly form URM group has hired Scott Brabrand to enforce equity at the games. Scott has promised that the event will be reformed with quotas from each of the member countries to make sure the mix of medalists is more in line with the general world population. Also, coaches are to be sent for reform to a special equity training camp. Scott has previous successful experience reforming a top institution in the US and promises to do so with this event. Scott said: "By the time I am done with this with this place, preparation and coaching will be a thing of the past. We'll make sure there is equity in the realm of nations and that over-prepared, talentless competitors are duly punished."


And they will institute a lottery system to award all Olympic medals. They concluded that the environment has become too toxic and the competition too cut throat. We cannot have these human beings prepping for excessive hours since age 6. That will lead to permanent physical and psychological damage.


I feel bad for these people. Their had their childhood robbed from them. They should have enjoyed their childhood. What a shame.



These athletes come across as one dimensional.


Just defund Olympics


I think the old system was flawed, but it is funny to see people complain about families sacrificing for their kids' academic achievements.

Article in WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/team-usa-soccer-olympics-sisters-mewis-11626667639

Kristie and Same Mewis. Family spends 12K a year for soccer. Millions of families do this, whether it is for piano, ice hockey, or math and science.

Changing TJ admissions will not change this.


Scott added: "It's totally unacceptable that US and Australia representing a tiny fraction of the population get a lion share of the medals ...". His boss Qarni reaffirmed "They prepped from a very young age. You will notice the prepping done in those countries is of mostly one race. The prepping is like taking illegal performance enhancing drugs".


Qualifying heats will be replaced with a holistic review of the athletes' backgrounds, with "experience factors" such as the quality of the athletes' shoes, lack of access to protein shakes, and body mass index taken into account (except for judo).


Experience factors like steriod and hormone use... to artificially boost performance and confer an unfair advantage.
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It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance-enhancing drugs are judged worthy

Yes!


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Anonymous wrote:In other news, there is a huge controversy at a major sports competition going on in Tokyo. A group of URMs (under-represented medalists) are urging for changes as they have historically been winning way fewer medals compared to their population. Of particular concern is Olympic-level preparation and coaching. It has been alleged that some athletes benefit from working too hard and being coached. The newly form URM group has hired Scott Brabrand to enforce equity at the games. Scott has promised that the event will be reformed with quotas from each of the member countries to make sure the mix of medalists is more in line with the general world population. Also, coaches are to be sent for reform to a special equity training camp. Scott has previous successful experience reforming a top institution in the US and promises to do so with this event. Scott said: "By the time I am done with this with this place, preparation and coaching will be a thing of the past. We'll make sure there is equity in the realm of nations and that over-prepared, talentless competitors are duly punished."


And they will institute a lottery system to award all Olympic medals. They concluded that the environment has become too toxic and the competition too cut throat. We cannot have these human beings prepping for excessive hours since age 6. That will lead to permanent physical and psychological damage.


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It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance-enhancing drugs are judged worthy

Yes!


Actually it is. You could make that non sequitor about anything. For example, it isn't meritocracy when only non-blind people are judged worthy of being a pitcher. It isn't meritocracy when only people who can afford to rent or buy a trumpet are deemed worthy of being in the band. It isn't meritocracy when only people that can afford a bike get to be on the cycling team. There is a big difference between the blind man and the others. If you have the drive and grit, you can find a way to borrow a trumpet or a bike and compete with those that can afford one. You cannot fix your vision. If you are arguing that prepping is the problem it isn't the same as being blind.
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Anonymous wrote:It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance-enhancing drugs are judged worthy

Exactly but the preppers will say anything to cling to this unfair advantage. They aren't interested in merit or fairness just clinging to privilege.
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Anonymous wrote:It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance-enhancing drugs are judged worthy

Exactly but the preppers will say anything to cling to this unfair advantage. They aren't interested in merit or fairness just clinging to privilege.


What kind of evil person spends time preparing their children for any kind of success?
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Anonymous wrote:It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance-enhancing drugs are judged worthy

Exactly but the preppers will say anything to cling to this unfair advantage. They aren't interested in merit or fairness just clinging to privilege.


Wrong. All they are asking for is merit and fairness.
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Anonymous wrote:It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance-enhancing drugs are judged worthy

Exactly but the preppers will say anything to cling to this unfair advantage. They aren't interested in merit or fairness just clinging to privilege.


That's so correct. Exactly the argument Uber URM (underepresnted medallists) consultant Scotty Boy is making at the Olympics. All this prepping, coaching and privilege that countries like USA have has to come to an end. look at them winning gold medals every Olympics. In basketball, athletics, swimming, gymnastics
How dare they. These preppers. We need to have a South Asian nation with 1.3b people win medals in line with their population percentage. Let's make it happen. Or bring the Olympics down.
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Anonymous wrote:It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance-enhancing drugs are judged worthy

Exactly but the preppers will say anything to cling to this unfair advantage. They aren't interested in merit or fairness just clinging to privilege.


That's so correct. Exactly the argument Uber URM (underepresnted medallists) consultant Scotty Boy is making at the Olympics. All this prepping, coaching and privilege that countries like USA have has to come to an end. look at them winning gold medals every Olympics. In basketball, athletics, swimming, gymnastics
How dare they. These preppers. We need to have a South Asian nation with 1.3b people win medals in line with their population percentage. Let's make it happen. Or bring the Olympics down.


Let’s not forget Indonesia. 4th largest population in the world and it doesn’t get nearly the number of medals commensurate with the size of the population. Equity demands Indonesia get 4th largest number of medals or we have to have a fair and equitable lottery system.
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Anonymous wrote:It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance-enhancing drugs are judged worthy

Exactly but the preppers will say anything to cling to this unfair advantage. They aren't interested in merit or fairness just clinging to privilege.


Wrong. All they are asking for is merit and fairness.


Test-taking ability is not a skill that indicates merit in STEM.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance-enhancing drugs are judged worthy

Exactly but the preppers will say anything to cling to this unfair advantage. They aren't interested in merit or fairness just clinging to privilege.


That's so correct. Exactly the argument Uber URM (underepresnted medallists) consultant Scotty Boy is making at the Olympics. All this prepping, coaching and privilege that countries like USA have has to come to an end. look at them winning gold medals every Olympics. In basketball, athletics, swimming, gymnastics
How dare they. These preppers. We need to have a South Asian nation with 1.3b people win medals in line with their population percentage. Let's make it happen. Or bring the Olympics down.


This is incredibly stupid. The idea that there are people who try to equate the Olympics, or professional sports, or anything remotely in that realm to admissions to a damn high school is SO indicative of why there are such deep issues there.

That doesn’t mean it should be disbanded. The product is too good for students who go in with clear eyes and a dedication to enjoying the complete high school experience. But it may be that the biggest thing it needs is a reduction in prestige while maintaining quality.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance-enhancing drugs are judged worthy

Exactly but the preppers will say anything to cling to this unfair advantage. They aren't interested in merit or fairness just clinging to privilege.


That's so correct. Exactly the argument Uber URM (underepresnted medallists) consultant Scotty Boy is making at the Olympics. All this prepping, coaching and privilege that countries like USA have has to come to an end. look at them winning gold medals every Olympics. In basketball, athletics, swimming, gymnastics
How dare they. These preppers. We need to have a South Asian nation with 1.3b people win medals in line with their population percentage. Let's make it happen. Or bring the Olympics down.


This is incredibly stupid. The idea that there are people who try to equate the Olympics, or professional sports, or anything remotely in that realm to admissions to a damn high school is SO indicative of why there are such deep issues there.

That doesn’t mean it should be disbanded. The product is too good for students who go in with clear eyes and a dedication to enjoying the complete high school experience. But it may be that the biggest thing it needs is a reduction in prestige while maintaining quality.


It is an analogy. Your words are hollow and self serving.

You obviously don't understand or choose not to understand the underlying issues of pushing quotas in the name of equity, removing objective tests and targeting kids who prepare for their goals.

The product is on its way to being destroyed. Scotty has won.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance-enhancing drugs are judged worthy

Exactly but the preppers will say anything to cling to this unfair advantage. They aren't interested in merit or fairness just clinging to privilege.


That's so correct. Exactly the argument Uber URM (underepresnted medallists) consultant Scotty Boy is making at the Olympics. All this prepping, coaching and privilege that countries like USA have has to come to an end. look at them winning gold medals every Olympics. In basketball, athletics, swimming, gymnastics
How dare they. These preppers. We need to have a South Asian nation with 1.3b people win medals in line with their population percentage. Let's make it happen. Or bring the Olympics down.


This is incredibly stupid. The idea that there are people who try to equate the Olympics, or professional sports, or anything remotely in that realm to admissions to a damn high school is SO indicative of why there are such deep issues there.

That doesn’t mean it should be disbanded. The product is too good for students who go in with clear eyes and a dedication to enjoying the complete high school experience. But it may be that the biggest thing it needs is a reduction in prestige while maintaining quality.


It is an analogy. Your words are hollow and self serving.

You obviously don't understand or choose not to understand the underlying issues of pushing quotas in the name of equity, removing objective tests and targeting kids who prepare for their goals.

The product is on its way to being destroyed. Scotty has won.


But they’re not analogous. And no one has made a clear argument for why they are.

What’s self-serving is the insistence that exams tell you anything about a student’s ability to contribute to an academic environment. They are a snapshot and nothing more.
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