Official TJ Admissions Decisions Results for the Class of 2025

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much drama. My kid did not prep for TJ. Didn’t do any activities with the goal of getting into TJ. Followed her natural interests. Some science. Some not. Got in this year with all As and Geometry in 8th. If she hadn’t, she would’ve gone to her base school and been very happy. Excited for TJ. But not worth all this drama and anxiety and nastiness we see from parents on here. Hoping it will not be a big thing among the students. If it is, she might go back to her base school. So much unnecessary drama.

Possibly better off in base school. TJ is not suited to teach kids like yours. But I hope I am wrong.

You are. TJ is suited to teach all kinds of kids and do it exceptionally well now that Glazer is gone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In other news, there is a huge controversy at a major sports competition going on in Tokyo. A group of URMs (under-represented medalists) are urging for changes as they have historically been winning way fewer medals compared to their population. Of particular concern is Olympic-level preparation and coaching. It has been alleged that some athletes benefit from working too hard and being coached. The newly form URM group has hired Scott Brabrand to enforce equity at the games. Scott has promised that the event will be reformed with quotas from each of the member countries to make sure the mix of medalists is more in line with the general world population. Also, coaches are to be sent for reform to a special equity training camp. Scott has previous successful experience reforming a top institution in the US and promises to do so with this event. Scott said: "By the time I am done with this with this place, preparation and coaching will be a thing of the past. We'll make sure there is equity in the realm of nations and that over-prepared, talentless competitors are duly punished."

Literally no one has ever come into this forum and explained with any logic or reason why athletic competitions should be treated AT ALL like TJ admissions.

People keep trying to make the comparison and they never actually put two and two together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In other news, there is a huge controversy at a major sports competition going on in Tokyo. A group of URMs (under-represented medalists) are urging for changes as they have historically been winning way fewer medals compared to their population. Of particular concern is Olympic-level preparation and coaching. It has been alleged that some athletes benefit from working too hard and being coached. The newly form URM group has hired Scott Brabrand to enforce equity at the games. Scott has promised that the event will be reformed with quotas from each of the member countries to make sure the mix of medalists is more in line with the general world population. Also, coaches are to be sent for reform to a special equity training camp. Scott has previous successful experience reforming a top institution in the US and promises to do so with this event. Scott said: "By the time I am done with this with this place, preparation and coaching will be a thing of the past. We'll make sure there is equity in the realm of nations and that over-prepared, talentless competitors are duly punished."

Literally no one has ever come into this forum and explained with any logic or reason why athletic competitions should be treated AT ALL like TJ admissions.

People keep trying to make the comparison and they never actually put two and two together.

They shouldn't. Only a complete fool would accept that flawed reasoning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In other news, there is a huge controversy at a major sports competition going on in Tokyo. A group of URMs (under-represented medalists) are urging for changes as they have historically been winning way fewer medals compared to their population. Of particular concern is Olympic-level preparation and coaching. It has been alleged that some athletes benefit from working too hard and being coached. The newly form URM group has hired Scott Brabrand to enforce equity at the games. Scott has promised that the event will be reformed with quotas from each of the member countries to make sure the mix of medalists is more in line with the general world population. Also, coaches are to be sent for reform to a special equity training camp. Scott has previous successful experience reforming a top institution in the US and promises to do so with this event. Scott said: "By the time I am done with this with this place, preparation and coaching will be a thing of the past. We'll make sure there is equity in the realm of nations and that over-prepared, talentless competitors are duly punished."

I think he proposed selected equal numbers from each country which is a fine solution to ensure equal opportunity! In fact, it's even better than setting a 1.5% minimum!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is public schools educating rich kids better.

It’s not parents spending money on enrichment or Asian Americans’s propensity toward prepping.

It’s that in this case it so blatantly looks like the prepping and enrichment ($$$$) can buy a child a better public education. And in this particular case it’s the way demographics have played out in recent years that has attracted the attention of reformers.

Actually think they should dismantle TJ and use the resources to really target the less fortunate.

The way it is now, there will be a mix of kids who get (and have gotten) lots of support from family vs. those that have not (there will also be the rich who have supported soccer, etc., now they will have the resources of TJ gifted to them too). Who do you think will be more likely to thrive at TJ? It will be the kids with the support they always had. Just changing admissions does not solve the problem of URMs not thriving in STEM.

Dismantle TJ - give more resources to the other schools in need.

If public schools only cater to struggling students, then most non-struggling students will leave and go private. You will be left with a disaster. Public schools should have spots for everyone, including advanced learners. This is a tax payer funded commodity that needs to serve a majority that will be invested in its success. TJ funding is a drop in the bucket of money spent on support services like ell and para support. Same with AAP. The scales have become unbalanced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In other news, there is a huge controversy at a major sports competition going on in Tokyo. A group of URMs (under-represented medalists) are urging for changes as they have historically been winning way fewer medals compared to their population. Of particular concern is Olympic-level preparation and coaching. It has been alleged that some athletes benefit from working too hard and being coached. The newly form URM group has hired Scott Brabrand to enforce equity at the games. Scott has promised that the event will be reformed with quotas from each of the member countries to make sure the mix of medalists is more in line with the general world population. Also, coaches are to be sent for reform to a special equity training camp. Scott has previous successful experience reforming a top institution in the US and promises to do so with this event. Scott said: "By the time I am done with this with this place, preparation and coaching will be a thing of the past. We'll make sure there is equity in the realm of nations and that over-prepared, talentless competitors are duly punished."

Literally no one has ever come into this forum and explained with any logic or reason why athletic competitions should be treated AT ALL like TJ admissions.

People keep trying to make the comparison and they never actually put two and two together.

Of course they are not same - it's called analogy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In other news, there is a huge controversy at a major sports competition going on in Tokyo. A group of URMs (under-represented medalists) are urging for changes as they have historically been winning way fewer medals compared to their population. Of particular concern is Olympic-level preparation and coaching. It has been alleged that some athletes benefit from working too hard and being coached. The newly form URM group has hired Scott Brabrand to enforce equity at the games. Scott has promised that the event will be reformed with quotas from each of the member countries to make sure the mix of medalists is more in line with the general world population. Also, coaches are to be sent for reform to a special equity training camp. Scott has previous successful experience reforming a top institution in the US and promises to do so with this event. Scott said: "By the time I am done with this with this place, preparation and coaching will be a thing of the past. We'll make sure there is equity in the realm of nations and that over-prepared, talentless competitors are duly punished."

Literally no one has ever come into this forum and explained with any logic or reason why athletic competitions should be treated AT ALL like TJ admissions.

People keep trying to make the comparison and they never actually put two and two together.

Literally never ever? Is that my teenager on this forum?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In other news, there is a huge controversy at a major sports competition going on in Tokyo. A group of URMs (under-represented medalists) are urging for changes as they have historically been winning way fewer medals compared to their population. Of particular concern is Olympic-level preparation and coaching. It has been alleged that some athletes benefit from working too hard and being coached. The newly form URM group has hired Scott Brabrand to enforce equity at the games. Scott has promised that the event will be reformed with quotas from each of the member countries to make sure the mix of medalists is more in line with the general world population. Also, coaches are to be sent for reform to a special equity training camp. Scott has previous successful experience reforming a top institution in the US and promises to do so with this event. Scott said: "By the time I am done with this with this place, preparation and coaching will be a thing of the past. We'll make sure there is equity in the realm of nations and that over-prepared, talentless competitors are duly punished."

Literally no one has ever come into this forum and explained with any logic or reason why athletic competitions should be treated AT ALL like TJ admissions.

People keep trying to make the comparison and they never actually put two and two together.

Of course they are not same - it's called analogy.

But they are not comparable at all in any way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In other news, there is a huge controversy at a major sports competition going on in Tokyo. A group of URMs (under-represented medalists) are urging for changes as they have historically been winning way fewer medals compared to their population. Of particular concern is Olympic-level preparation and coaching. It has been alleged that some athletes benefit from working too hard and being coached. The newly form URM group has hired Scott Brabrand to enforce equity at the games. Scott has promised that the event will be reformed with quotas from each of the member countries to make sure the mix of medalists is more in line with the general world population. Also, coaches are to be sent for reform to a special equity training camp. Scott has previous successful experience reforming a top institution in the US and promises to do so with this event. Scott said: "By the time I am done with this with this place, preparation and coaching will be a thing of the past. We'll make sure there is equity in the realm of nations and that over-prepared, talentless competitors are duly punished."

Literally no one has ever come into this forum and explained with any logic or reason why athletic competitions should be treated AT ALL like TJ admissions.

People keep trying to make the comparison and they never actually put two and two together.

Of course they are not same - it's called analogy.

But they are not comparable at all in any way.

No they aren't comparable but it fits the false narrative the pro-prep faction likes so they keep trying to mislead people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In other news, there is a huge controversy at a major sports competition going on in Tokyo. A group of URMs (under-represented medalists) are urging for changes as they have historically been winning way fewer medals compared to their population. Of particular concern is Olympic-level preparation and coaching. It has been alleged that some athletes benefit from working too hard and being coached. The newly form URM group has hired Scott Brabrand to enforce equity at the games. Scott has promised that the event will be reformed with quotas from each of the member countries to make sure the mix of medalists is more in line with the general world population. Also, coaches are to be sent for reform to a special equity training camp. Scott has previous successful experience reforming a top institution in the US and promises to do so with this event. Scott said: "By the time I am done with this with this place, preparation and coaching will be a thing of the past. We'll make sure there is equity in the realm of nations and that over-prepared, talentless competitors are duly punished."

Literally no one has ever come into this forum and explained with any logic or reason why athletic competitions should be treated AT ALL like TJ admissions.

People keep trying to make the comparison and they never actually put two and two together.

Of course they are not same - it's called analogy.

But they are not comparable at all in any way.

No they aren't comparable but it fits the false narrative the pro-prep faction likes so they keep trying to mislead people.

Oh those pro-prep Olympians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In other news, there is a huge controversy at a major sports competition going on in Tokyo. A group of URMs (under-represented medalists) are urging for changes as they have historically been winning way fewer medals compared to their population. Of particular concern is Olympic-level preparation and coaching. It has been alleged that some athletes benefit from working too hard and being coached. The newly form URM group has hired Scott Brabrand to enforce equity at the games. Scott has promised that the event will be reformed with quotas from each of the member countries to make sure the mix of medalists is more in line with the general world population. Also, coaches are to be sent for reform to a special equity training camp. Scott has previous successful experience reforming a top institution in the US and promises to do so with this event. Scott said: "By the time I am done with this with this place, preparation and coaching will be a thing of the past. We'll make sure there is equity in the realm of nations and that over-prepared, talentless competitors are duly punished."

Literally no one has ever come into this forum and explained with any logic or reason why athletic competitions should be treated AT ALL like TJ admissions.

People keep trying to make the comparison and they never actually put two and two together.

They are comparable. They were both based on the principle of meritocracy. Everyone had an opportunity to try-out and some did better than others and made the cut. We didn’t worry about race, size, wealth, effort, potential, or any other factor. It was based on performance during a process of trying to be good enough to make the cut. Some kids are simply naturally better than others or better coached or played more little league or travel and it would be wrong to artificially advance the cause of the kids that simply didn’t make the cut because they aren’t as naturally gifted, didn’t play little league, haven’t reached what you believe to be their potential, or had crappy coaches. If the kids that made the team happened to be predominantly one race, we didn’t care because performance decided the outcome. With TJ, when Asians far outperformed their peers, it was suddenly a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In other news, there is a huge controversy at a major sports competition going on in Tokyo. A group of URMs (under-represented medalists) are urging for changes as they have historically been winning way fewer medals compared to their population. Of particular concern is Olympic-level preparation and coaching. It has been alleged that some athletes benefit from working too hard and being coached. The newly form URM group has hired Scott Brabrand to enforce equity at the games. Scott has promised that the event will be reformed with quotas from each of the member countries to make sure the mix of medalists is more in line with the general world population. Also, coaches are to be sent for reform to a special equity training camp. Scott has previous successful experience reforming a top institution in the US and promises to do so with this event. Scott said: "By the time I am done with this with this place, preparation and coaching will be a thing of the past. We'll make sure there is equity in the realm of nations and that over-prepared, talentless competitors are duly punished."

And they will institute a lottery system to award all Olympic medals. They concluded that the environment has become too toxic and the competition too cut throat. We cannot have these human beings prepping for excessive hours since age 6. That will lead to permanent physical and psychological damage.

I feel bad for these people. Their had their childhood robbed from them. They should have enjoyed their childhood. What a shame.

These athletes come across as one dimensional.

Just defund Olympics

I think the old system was flawed, but it is funny to see people complain about families sacrificing for their kids' academic achievements.

Article in WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/team-usa-soccer-olympics-sisters-mewis-11626667639

Kristie and Same Mewis. Family spends 12K a year for soccer. Millions of families do this, whether it is for piano, ice hockey, or math and science.

Changing TJ admissions will not change this.

Scott added: "It's totally unacceptable that US and Australia representing a tiny fraction of the population get a lion share of the medals ...". His boss Qarni reaffirmed "They prepped from a very young age. You will notice the prepping done in those countries is of mostly one race. The prepping is like taking illegal performance enhancing drugs".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The way it is now, there will be a mix of kids who get (and have gotten) lots of support from family vs. those that have not (there will also be the rich who have supported soccer, etc., now they will have the resources of TJ gifted to them too). Who do you think will be more likely to thrive at TJ? It will be the kids with the support they always had. Just changing admissions does not solve the problem of URMs not thriving in STEM.

That's the crux of the problem. Even if we were to accept that a bunch of lower income or URMs from underrepresented schools are really more brilliant and more deserving than the heavily prepped kids, but due to lack of resources have not been able to show any notable achievements, what do people think will happen to those kids at TJ? If kids are so underprivileged that they don't have the ability or time to ensure that they get into Algebra in 7th or perform well on any STEM extracurriculars (which are still offered at the lower income FCPS middle schools), then how are those kids going to succeed at TJ? The sad reality is that the kids who have heavily invested in STEM for years and have significant family support will do better than kids who are in theory brighter but lack resources and support. Many of the kids admitted under the new procedures are being set up to fail and be much worse off than if they had decided to remain at the base school and be in the top 10% there. The school board only cares about the demographic optics and doesn't care at all about the individual kids that they're setting up to fail.

Being in the bottom half at TJ is awful for college admissions. Wealthier families can soak the college admissions hit. Poorer families can't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In other news, there is a huge controversy at a major sports competition going on in Tokyo. A group of URMs (under-represented medalists) are urging for changes as they have historically been winning way fewer medals compared to their population. Of particular concern is Olympic-level preparation and coaching. It has been alleged that some athletes benefit from working too hard and being coached. The newly form URM group has hired Scott Brabrand to enforce equity at the games. Scott has promised that the event will be reformed with quotas from each of the member countries to make sure the mix of medalists is more in line with the general world population. Also, coaches are to be sent for reform to a special equity training camp. Scott has previous successful experience reforming a top institution in the US and promises to do so with this event. Scott said: "By the time I am done with this with this place, preparation and coaching will be a thing of the past. We'll make sure there is equity in the realm of nations and that over-prepared, talentless competitors are duly punished."

Literally no one has ever come into this forum and explained with any logic or reason why athletic competitions should be treated AT ALL like TJ admissions.

People keep trying to make the comparison and they never actually put two and two together.

They are comparable. They were both based on the principle of meritocracy. Everyone had an opportunity to try-out and some did better than others and made the cut. We didn’t worry about race, size, wealth, effort, potential, or any other factor. It was based on performance during a process of trying to be good enough to make the cut. Some kids are simply naturally better than others or better coached or played more little league or travel and it would be wrong to artificially advance the cause of the kids that simply didn’t make the cut because they aren’t as naturally gifted, didn’t play little league, haven’t reached what you believe to be their potential, or had crappy coaches. If the kids that made the team happened to be predominantly one race, we didn’t care because performance decided the outcome. With TJ, when Asians far outperformed their peers, it was suddenly a problem.

It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance enhancing drugs are judged worthy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It isn't a meritocracy when only those who can purchase performance-enhancing drugs are judged worthy

Yes!