I highly recommend that when you make your arguments you give actual data and sources. |
What "theory"? Do you currently live in the rural Midwest, or are you an urban "elite"? |
I can't imagine many urban elitists moving there. They prefer to badmouth beautiful places they've never actually visited. -DP |
Do all of your responses consist of whataboutism? This thread is about Baltimore. Keep up. |
And what if I show you the numbers you will recant and say OMG TRUMP IS RIGHT, MAGA FOREVER@!!!!!! Or you could just do your own research and come to your own conclusions. |
No. Are you denying that Trump saves his “infest” and “infestation” insults for black people and things associated with black people? |
DP. Per USAspending.gov Baltimore received $5.4 billion in federal aid in 2018. In the last five years, the Baltimore Housing Authority received $1.1 billion in Federal money. |
Look, even Republican members of Congress are retiring because they're tired of Trump's racism and misogyny. But please, keep telling us Trump isn't racist. |
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Trump is a racist, and an all around terrible human being. Period.
But, Baltimore is not perfect. In fact, the city has suffered for decades. Decades. The corruption there is on par with Chicago and Puerto Rico. The schools are awful, crime is off the charts, and generations of poor people have been left behind. I wish we could agree that Trump's comments were terrible, AND agree that Baltimore is similarly terrible and in need of scrutiny and overhaul...rather than have the PC knee jerk reaction of defending a city that so clearly needs better leadership. |
I agree that Trump is terrible and Baltimore needs better governance. It is not lack of money, it is lack of leaders who use the money where needed. Don’t want Trump to besmirch the poor blacks of Baltimore? Take away the reasons |
No this thread is about the President’s re-election strategy. I think they have decided that they will not win in diverse urban areas anyway and they need their base to turn out They are hoping to pump up their base but fostering “us versus them “ type divisions. That is why you have seen an increase in racist comments (“go back to where you come from “ to American born Congresswomen of color and the use of the word “infestation “ to describe a city with a large African American population. It is very deliberate. The 2020 election is going to be a turnout election so he wants his base to be daring to go, and for Democratic voters to feel depressed and worn out. I think he is counting on his comments to really resonate with his base (and drive up turnout) and also hoping that white, moderate voters in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania will not care enough to show up at the polls but might just end up fed up by the back and forth. The more he does this the more the face of the Democratic Party becomes people like AOC etc. |
There were news reports on it after the riots. Very little of the money actually makes it to the people of Baltimore City. This is the problem with a lot of government (and private) investment. It goes into overhead. There's been a not insignificant amount of money intended for Sandtown-Winchester over the past decade+, and nothing changes. Not because no money is allocated, but because once the "helping" organizations consume the money, very little is left for actually doing things. This is not unique to Baltimore. Baltimore does, however, have a level of corruption that seems higher than other places I have lived. It's possible that's because other places I have lived have hid it better. Or it's possible Baltimore's been dealing with its problems for so long, it seems normal to take what you can, when you can, because how else are you going to possibly come out ahead? |
Like Detroit, Baltimore proactively recruited poor African Americans from the south as cheap labor in factories as the immigrants who previously provided labor prospered, moved out to the burbs, and started their own businesses. Then the factories closed, and cities like Baltimore were left with a disproportionate number of poorly educated, unemployed AAs. Add drugs, criminalization and family dysfunction to the mix, and you get generational poverty. And let's not forget structural racism. I love Baltimore. My mom was born and raised in the city. Her parents were born and raised there. Her 4 grandparents landed in Baltimore as older teens/young adults when they came over from Eastern Europe. And I lived there while in law school. But the city has big problems that won't be magically solved with a great mayor or more money. Complex societal issues like generational poverty and the related problems require multifaceted interventions. And even then, you can't legislate a solution to family dysfunction and bad family planning---even if you have excellent schools, affordable housing and a living wage (Baltimore doesn't have that unicorn trifecta BTW). Once you've abandoned the people and allowed a new subcultural norm to take hold, it's not easy to correct it. |
Why just Baltimore, though? Why not St. Louis, or Memphis, or New Orleans? |
Dp. FFS. The amount of grants and HUD funding allocated to his district has been widely reported this week. Use your neighbor's "google machine" as Joe Scarborough is fond of saying using a put-on Southern accent insinuating Southerners don't have access to a computer nor smart phone. Arguing over semantics instead of why the city has not received any oversight attention is avoids the issue. Save your smart-a$$ comments for the general. Your gonna need them. |