Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?

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Survey on Channel 13 showed that the majority of Israelis do not want aid to enter Gaza. In this case, the government is an accurate reflection of its people.

https://x.com/IhabHassane/status/1924946073702854742
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Anonymous wrote:Survey on Channel 13 showed that the majority of Israelis do not want aid to enter Gaza. In this case, the government is an accurate reflection of its people.

https://x.com/IhabHassane/status/1924946073702854742


I'm so outraged about this. I donated money to Save the Children today.

If there is anything else I can do please post.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?


They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?


The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.


I’m equally sickened by terrorist organizations and their apologists. Children are starving because of Hamas.


Hamas is evil. The children are children for God's sake. There is something very very wrong with you if you can't understand that allowing - no, not allowing causing - children to starve is an atrocity.

Israel is starving the children. On purpose.


So why does Israel get all the blame and Hamas gets none? Hamas is also starving the children on purpose. I’ll accept shared responsibility for this humanitarian crisis but the blood is not solely on Israel’s hands.


Nobody, nobody is claiming it’s all Israel. Hamas started a big conflict. Since then Israel has turned from the victim to the bully. They’re no longer trying to get rid of Hamas. They are trying to get rid of all Palestinians. If that means murdering every man, woman and child then that’s what they’ll do.


You're absolutely right. Hamas started this conflict in 1946 when they bombed the King David hotel in Jerusalem

You mean Israel? Careful what you write. So many Americans don’t know the history of the founding of Israel.


If I admit I am ignorant about the true founding of Israel, where can I go for some unbiased information?


I believe it was created as a settlement in the 18th century by the British who wanted to build a market in the Middle East for their goods.

It's a pretty complicated history.
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Anonymous wrote:Former Israeli MK Moshe Feiglin and member Netanyahu's Likud party, states the following: "Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory."

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814


This is sick. This is what zionism is.

How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?




I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”


I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?

Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.


But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.


Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.


I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.


DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.



Do you think families that have lost loved ones to this conflict GAF if their side deserved it? No. They hate the other side regardless.


Very very few American Jews let alone Israeli Jews have lost people due to this conflict.

All the blessings to the good Senator from Maryland. It’s absolutely disgusting what we as Americans have been complicit with as far as Gaza.


I blame Biden. He stuck with Israel despite clear evidence the government of Israel was committing war crimes. Maybe that was part of his dementia. If he'd been sharper, he might have seen clearly what was happening.
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Anonymous wrote:Former Israeli MK Moshe Feiglin and member Netanyahu's Likud party, states the following: "Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory."

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814


This is sick. This is what zionism is.

How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?




I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”


I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?

Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.


But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.


Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.


I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.


DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.



It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to have less than warm feelings toward the perpetrators of the October 7 massacre, namely, Hamas and its associates of that day.


How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th.



The October 7 massacre perpetrated by Hamas did indeed occur on October 7. It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to be concerned that Ha*** vowed to repeat it.


You cannot possibly be this bad at reading.


Not sure I follow. I am having a hard time with seeing how the Israelis murdered, raped, maimed, burned, and kidnapped on October 7 were privileged. Not sure what the “this” is.


Here's my comment again: "How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th."

The fact that you think the October 7th was the inauguration of things, makes it incredibly clear how privileged you are, to completely ignore the crimes, the persecution, the horrors, the trauma, and the displacement faced by Palestinians LONG, LONG, LONG before October 7th. October 7th was terrible, but it's a blip in the grand experience and terrorism inflicted BY Israel and ONTO Palestinians for many many decades.


I don’t think that the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust was a “blip.” And I have no idea what “the inauguration of things” even means.


And this is exactly why more and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis. They are in their own incredibly privilaged bubble of disassociative isolation.


Not sure I follow. More and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis because Israelis were slaughtered on October 7?
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https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814


This is sick. This is what zionism is.

How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?




I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”


I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?

Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.


But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.


Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.


I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.


DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.



It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to have less than warm feelings toward the perpetrators of the October 7 massacre, namely, Hamas and its associates of that day.


How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th.



The October 7 massacre perpetrated by Hamas did indeed occur on October 7. It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to be concerned that Ha*** vowed to repeat it.


You cannot possibly be this bad at reading.


Not sure I follow. I am having a hard time with seeing how the Israelis murdered, raped, maimed, burned, and kidnapped on October 7 were privileged. Not sure what the “this” is.


Here's my comment again: "How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th."

The fact that you think the October 7th was the inauguration of things, makes it incredibly clear how privileged you are, to completely ignore the crimes, the persecution, the horrors, the trauma, and the displacement faced by Palestinians LONG, LONG, LONG before October 7th. October 7th was terrible, but it's a blip in the grand experience and terrorism inflicted BY Israel and ONTO Palestinians for many many decades.


I don’t think that the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust was a “blip.” And I have no idea what “the inauguration of things” even means.


And this is exactly why more and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis. They are in their own incredibly privilaged bubble of disassociative isolation.


Not sure I follow. More and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis because Israelis were slaughtered on October 7?


No, it’s because Israel’s wiping out of Gaza (starvation of Palestinians, sniper shootings of children, destruction of hospitals, targeting relief groups, etc.) is a disproportionate response to October 7.

Even Israeli soldiers are protesting:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/protest-letters-from-former-israeli-soldiers-reveal-major-rifts-over-ongoing-war-in-gaza

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https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814


This is sick. This is what zionism is.

How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?




I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”


I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?

Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.


But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.


Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.


I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.


DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.



It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to have less than warm feelings toward the perpetrators of the October 7 massacre, namely, Hamas and its associates of that day.


How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th.



The October 7 massacre perpetrated by Hamas did indeed occur on October 7. It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to be concerned that Ha*** vowed to repeat it.


You cannot possibly be this bad at reading.


Not sure I follow. I am having a hard time with seeing how the Israelis murdered, raped, maimed, burned, and kidnapped on October 7 were privileged. Not sure what the “this” is.


Here's my comment again: "How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th."

The fact that you think the October 7th was the inauguration of things, makes it incredibly clear how privileged you are, to completely ignore the crimes, the persecution, the horrors, the trauma, and the displacement faced by Palestinians LONG, LONG, LONG before October 7th. October 7th was terrible, but it's a blip in the grand experience and terrorism inflicted BY Israel and ONTO Palestinians for many many decades.


I don’t think that the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust was a “blip.” And I have no idea what “the inauguration of things” even means.


And this is exactly why more and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis. They are in their own incredibly privilaged bubble of disassociative isolation.


Not sure I follow. More and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis because Israelis were slaughtered on October 7?


No, it’s because Israel’s wiping out of Gaza (starvation of Palestinians, sniper shootings of children, destruction of hospitals, targeting relief groups, etc.) is a disproportionate response to October 7.

Even Israeli soldiers are protesting:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/protest-letters-from-former-israeli-soldiers-reveal-major-rifts-over-ongoing-war-in-gaza




OK, so the argument has now shifted to it’s a “disproportionate” response. That is progress.


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Anonymous wrote:Former Israeli MK Moshe Feiglin and member Netanyahu's Likud party, states the following: "Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory."

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814


This is sick. This is what zionism is.

How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?




I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”


I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?

Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.


But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.


Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.


I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.


DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.



It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to have less than warm feelings toward the perpetrators of the October 7 massacre, namely, Hamas and its associates of that day.


How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th.



The October 7 massacre perpetrated by Hamas did indeed occur on October 7. It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to be concerned that Ha*** vowed to repeat it.


You cannot possibly be this bad at reading.


Not sure I follow. I am having a hard time with seeing how the Israelis murdered, raped, maimed, burned, and kidnapped on October 7 were privileged. Not sure what the “this” is.


Here's my comment again: "How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th."

The fact that you think the October 7th was the inauguration of things, makes it incredibly clear how privileged you are, to completely ignore the crimes, the persecution, the horrors, the trauma, and the displacement faced by Palestinians LONG, LONG, LONG before October 7th. October 7th was terrible, but it's a blip in the grand experience and terrorism inflicted BY Israel and ONTO Palestinians for many many decades.


I don’t think that the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust was a “blip.” And I have no idea what “the inauguration of things” even means.


Civilized people generally don’t elevate certain groups of people above others, so “of Jews” is a completely immaterial distinction to most.

At this point, 50 dead Palestinians in the past 18 months for every 1 dead Israeli on 10/7 makes the point clear. Israel is very clearly the problem. Full stop.
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Anonymous wrote:Former Israeli MK Moshe Feiglin and member Netanyahu's Likud party, states the following: "Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory."

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814


This is sick. This is what zionism is.

How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?




I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”


I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?

Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.


But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.


Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.


I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.


DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.



Do you think families that have lost loved ones to this conflict GAF if their side deserved it? No. They hate the other side regardless.


Very very few American Jews let alone Israeli Jews have lost people due to this conflict.

All the blessings to the good Senator from Maryland. It’s absolutely disgusting what we as Americans have been complicit with as far as Gaza.


I blame Biden. He stuck with Israel despite clear evidence the government of Israel was committing war crimes. Maybe that was part of his dementia. If he'd been sharper, he might have seen clearly what was happening.


Um...ok. You can also blame Trump, the current President. He's continuing to fund billions of American tax dollars to Israel to provide military aid despite UN reports showing that thousands of children in Gaza will starve to death soon.
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Anonymous wrote:Former Israeli MK Moshe Feiglin and member Netanyahu's Likud party, states the following: "Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory."

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814


This is sick. This is what zionism is.

How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?




I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”


I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?

Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.


But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.


Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.


I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.


DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.



It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to have less than warm feelings toward the perpetrators of the October 7 massacre, namely, Hamas and its associates of that day.


How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th.



The October 7 massacre perpetrated by Hamas did indeed occur on October 7. It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to be concerned that Ha*** vowed to repeat it.


You cannot possibly be this bad at reading.


Not sure I follow. I am having a hard time with seeing how the Israelis murdered, raped, maimed, burned, and kidnapped on October 7 were privileged. Not sure what the “this” is.


Here's my comment again: "How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th."

The fact that you think the October 7th was the inauguration of things, makes it incredibly clear how privileged you are, to completely ignore the crimes, the persecution, the horrors, the trauma, and the displacement faced by Palestinians LONG, LONG, LONG before October 7th. October 7th was terrible, but it's a blip in the grand experience and terrorism inflicted BY Israel and ONTO Palestinians for many many decades.


I don’t think that the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust was a “blip.” And I have no idea what “the inauguration of things” even means.


And this is exactly why more and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis. They are in their own incredibly privilaged bubble of disassociative isolation.


Not sure I follow. More and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis because Israelis were slaughtered on October 7?


No, it’s because Israel’s wiping out of Gaza (starvation of Palestinians, sniper shootings of children, destruction of hospitals, targeting relief groups, etc.) is a disproportionate response to October 7.

Even Israeli soldiers are protesting:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/protest-letters-from-former-israeli-soldiers-reveal-major-rifts-over-ongoing-war-in-gaza




OK, so the argument has now shifted to it’s a “disproportionate” response. That is progress.




DP

The squawking that “nobody is denouncing Hamas!” was only occurring in your propaganda bubble, so you apparently missed that it was always a matter of disproportionate response that had the non-psychos protesting the slaughter and genocide in Gaza.

Try to keep up.
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Anonymous wrote:Former Israeli MK Moshe Feiglin and member Netanyahu's Likud party, states the following: "Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory."

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814


This is sick. This is what zionism is.

How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?




I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”


I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?

Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.


But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.


Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.


I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.


DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.



It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to have less than warm feelings toward the perpetrators of the October 7 massacre, namely, Hamas and its associates of that day.


How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th.



The October 7 massacre perpetrated by Hamas did indeed occur on October 7. It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to be concerned that Ha*** vowed to repeat it.


You cannot possibly be this bad at reading.


Not sure I follow. I am having a hard time with seeing how the Israelis murdered, raped, maimed, burned, and kidnapped on October 7 were privileged. Not sure what the “this” is.


Here's my comment again: "How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th."

The fact that you think the October 7th was the inauguration of things, makes it incredibly clear how privileged you are, to completely ignore the crimes, the persecution, the horrors, the trauma, and the displacement faced by Palestinians LONG, LONG, LONG before October 7th. October 7th was terrible, but it's a blip in the grand experience and terrorism inflicted BY Israel and ONTO Palestinians for many many decades.


I don’t think that the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust was a “blip.” And I have no idea what “the inauguration of things” even means.


Civilized people generally don’t elevate certain groups of people above others, so “of Jews” is a completely immaterial distinction to most.

At this point, 50 dead Palestinians in the past 18 months for every 1 dead Israeli on 10/7 makes the point clear. Israel is very clearly the problem. Full stop.


Huh, and here I thought that at least some civilized people thought that Hamas was, like, at least part of the problem.
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https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814


This is sick. This is what zionism is.

How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?




I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”


I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?

Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.


But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.


Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.


I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.


DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.



It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to have less than warm feelings toward the perpetrators of the October 7 massacre, namely, Hamas and its associates of that day.


How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th.



The October 7 massacre perpetrated by Hamas did indeed occur on October 7. It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to be concerned that Ha*** vowed to repeat it.


You cannot possibly be this bad at reading.


Not sure I follow. I am having a hard time with seeing how the Israelis murdered, raped, maimed, burned, and kidnapped on October 7 were privileged. Not sure what the “this” is.


Here's my comment again: "How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th."

The fact that you think the October 7th was the inauguration of things, makes it incredibly clear how privileged you are, to completely ignore the crimes, the persecution, the horrors, the trauma, and the displacement faced by Palestinians LONG, LONG, LONG before October 7th. October 7th was terrible, but it's a blip in the grand experience and terrorism inflicted BY Israel and ONTO Palestinians for many many decades.


I don’t think that the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust was a “blip.” And I have no idea what “the inauguration of things” even means.


And this is exactly why more and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis. They are in their own incredibly privilaged bubble of disassociative isolation.


Not sure I follow. More and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis because Israelis were slaughtered on October 7?


No, it’s because Israel’s wiping out of Gaza (starvation of Palestinians, sniper shootings of children, destruction of hospitals, targeting relief groups, etc.) is a disproportionate response to October 7.

Even Israeli soldiers are protesting:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/protest-letters-from-former-israeli-soldiers-reveal-major-rifts-over-ongoing-war-in-gaza




OK, so the argument has now shifted to it’s a “disproportionate” response. That is progress.




DP

The squawking that “nobody is denouncing Hamas!” was only occurring in your propaganda bubble, so you apparently missed that it was always a matter of disproportionate response that had the non-psychos protesting the slaughter and genocide in Gaza.

Try to keep up.


Uh, I don’t think that pointing out that Hamas perpetrated the slaughter of October 7 is “propaganda.” Rather, it is what is called a fact.
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Anonymous wrote:Former Israeli MK Moshe Feiglin and member Netanyahu's Likud party, states the following: "Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory."

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814


This is sick. This is what zionism is.

How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?




I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”


I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?

Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.


But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.


Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.


I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.


DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.



It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to have less than warm feelings toward the perpetrators of the October 7 massacre, namely, Hamas and its associates of that day.


How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th.



The October 7 massacre perpetrated by Hamas did indeed occur on October 7. It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to be concerned that Ha*** vowed to repeat it.


You cannot possibly be this bad at reading.


Not sure I follow. I am having a hard time with seeing how the Israelis murdered, raped, maimed, burned, and kidnapped on October 7 were privileged. Not sure what the “this” is.


Here's my comment again: "How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th."

The fact that you think the October 7th was the inauguration of things, makes it incredibly clear how privileged you are, to completely ignore the crimes, the persecution, the horrors, the trauma, and the displacement faced by Palestinians LONG, LONG, LONG before October 7th. October 7th was terrible, but it's a blip in the grand experience and terrorism inflicted BY Israel and ONTO Palestinians for many many decades.


I don’t think that the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust was a “blip.” And I have no idea what “the inauguration of things” even means.


And this is exactly why more and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis. They are in their own incredibly privilaged bubble of disassociative isolation.


Not sure I follow. More and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis because Israelis were slaughtered on October 7?


No, it’s because Israel’s wiping out of Gaza (starvation of Palestinians, sniper shootings of children, destruction of hospitals, targeting relief groups, etc.) is a disproportionate response to October 7.

Even Israeli soldiers are protesting:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/protest-letters-from-former-israeli-soldiers-reveal-major-rifts-over-ongoing-war-in-gaza




OK, so the argument has now shifted to it’s a “disproportionate” response. That is progress.




Correct. Another adjective would be “indiscriminate,” as stated in this OHCHR report, covering only October to December 2023:
https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/countries/opt/20240619-ohchr-thematic-report-indiscrim-disprop-attacks-gaza-oct-dec2023.pdf

Former Israeli PM Ehud Olmert’s view of the war:

What Israel “is doing now in Gaza is very close to a war crime.”

“a war without a purpose — a war without a chance of achieving anything that can save the lives of the hostages.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/former-pm-olmert-tells-bbc-israeli-actions-in-gaza-close-to-a-war-crime/amp/

Yair Golan, Former IDF commander stated:

“A sane state does not wage war against civilians, does not kill babies as a hobby, and does not set itself the goal of depopulating the population”

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj422k1zzd9o.amp
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Anonymous wrote:Former Israeli MK Moshe Feiglin and member Netanyahu's Likud party, states the following: "Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory."

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814


This is sick. This is what zionism is.

How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?




I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”


I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?

Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.


But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.


Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.


I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.


DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.



It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to have less than warm feelings toward the perpetrators of the October 7 massacre, namely, Hamas and its associates of that day.


How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th.



The October 7 massacre perpetrated by Hamas did indeed occur on October 7. It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to be concerned that Ha*** vowed to repeat it.


You cannot possibly be this bad at reading.


Not sure I follow. I am having a hard time with seeing how the Israelis murdered, raped, maimed, burned, and kidnapped on October 7 were privileged. Not sure what the “this” is.


Here's my comment again: "How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th."

The fact that you think the October 7th was the inauguration of things, makes it incredibly clear how privileged you are, to completely ignore the crimes, the persecution, the horrors, the trauma, and the displacement faced by Palestinians LONG, LONG, LONG before October 7th. October 7th was terrible, but it's a blip in the grand experience and terrorism inflicted BY Israel and ONTO Palestinians for many many decades.


I don’t think that the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust was a “blip.” And I have no idea what “the inauguration of things” even means.


And this is exactly why more and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis. They are in their own incredibly privilaged bubble of disassociative isolation.


Not sure I follow. More and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis because Israelis were slaughtered on October 7?


No, it’s because Israel’s wiping out of Gaza (starvation of Palestinians, sniper shootings of children, destruction of hospitals, targeting relief groups, etc.) is a disproportionate response to October 7.

Even Israeli soldiers are protesting:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/protest-letters-from-former-israeli-soldiers-reveal-major-rifts-over-ongoing-war-in-gaza




OK, so the argument has now shifted to it’s a “disproportionate” response. That is progress.




Correct. Another adjective would be “indiscriminate,” as stated in this OHCHR report, covering only October to December 2023:
https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/countries/opt/20240619-ohchr-thematic-report-indiscrim-disprop-attacks-gaza-oct-dec2023.pdf

Former Israeli PM Ehud Olmert’s view of the war:

What Israel “is doing now in Gaza is very close to a war crime.”

“a war without a purpose — a war without a chance of achieving anything that can save the lives of the hostages.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/former-pm-olmert-tells-bbc-israeli-actions-in-gaza-close-to-a-war-crime/amp/

Yair Golan, Former IDF commander stated:

“A sane state does not wage war against civilians, does not kill babies as a hobby, and does not set itself the goal of depopulating the population”

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj422k1zzd9o.amp


Yes. These are principled Israelis who are showing you can keep your moral compass and defend the Palestinians against Israeli atrocities despite what Netanyahu does.
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https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814


This is sick. This is what zionism is.

How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?




I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”


I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?

Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.


But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.


Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.


I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.


DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.



It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to have less than warm feelings toward the perpetrators of the October 7 massacre, namely, Hamas and its associates of that day.


How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th.



The October 7 massacre perpetrated by Hamas did indeed occur on October 7. It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to be concerned that Ha*** vowed to repeat it.


You cannot possibly be this bad at reading.


Not sure I follow. I am having a hard time with seeing how the Israelis murdered, raped, maimed, burned, and kidnapped on October 7 were privileged. Not sure what the “this” is.


Here's my comment again: "How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th."

The fact that you think the October 7th was the inauguration of things, makes it incredibly clear how privileged you are, to completely ignore the crimes, the persecution, the horrors, the trauma, and the displacement faced by Palestinians LONG, LONG, LONG before October 7th. October 7th was terrible, but it's a blip in the grand experience and terrorism inflicted BY Israel and ONTO Palestinians for many many decades.


I don’t think that the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust was a “blip.” And I have no idea what “the inauguration of things” even means.


And this is exactly why more and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis. They are in their own incredibly privilaged bubble of disassociative isolation.


Not sure I follow. More and more people are losing sympathy for Israelis because Israelis were slaughtered on October 7?


No, it’s because Israel’s wiping out of Gaza (starvation of Palestinians, sniper shootings of children, destruction of hospitals, targeting relief groups, etc.) is a disproportionate response to October 7.

Even Israeli soldiers are protesting:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/protest-letters-from-former-israeli-soldiers-reveal-major-rifts-over-ongoing-war-in-gaza




OK, so the argument has now shifted to it’s a “disproportionate” response. That is progress.




Correct. Another adjective would be “indiscriminate,” as stated in this OHCHR report, covering only October to December 2023:
https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/countries/opt/20240619-ohchr-thematic-report-indiscrim-disprop-attacks-gaza-oct-dec2023.pdf

Former Israeli PM Ehud Olmert’s view of the war:

What Israel “is doing now in Gaza is very close to a war crime.”

“a war without a purpose — a war without a chance of achieving anything that can save the lives of the hostages.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/former-pm-olmert-tells-bbc-israeli-actions-in-gaza-close-to-a-war-crime/amp/

Yair Golan, Former IDF commander stated:

“A sane state does not wage war against civilians, does not kill babies as a hobby, and does not set itself the goal of depopulating the population”

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj422k1zzd9o.amp


Unfortunately, these views are in the minority. Polling shows most Israelis support the continued blockade of aid and starvation of Gaza's population.
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