Who do you think is going to win and why?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I think we’ve found the one thing that we all agree on: the J6 poster is ruining this thread.

Yes, it does for the MAGA people that can't handle the truth about his inaction that day. Make it stop! Make it stop!

Weirdo: we're all aware of what happened on J6. That you think you need to keep rehashing it is beyond bizarre. There are so many other issues at play right now - J6 certainly isn't at the top of my list. Could you please move on.

J6 isn't the issue. The issue is what our Commander-in-Chief did while our country was in the midst of the most significant attack on our soil since 9/11. You're just hoping and praying people stop bringing up because somewhere deep down you know what he did was disqualifying but you just can't bring yourself to admit you're wrong.

Yes, a group of thugs wearing fake horns really fits this description. Nice trolling.

So in a post 9/11 world you think it is acceptable to assume hundreds of people breaching security at our United States Capitol Building while a majority of our most prominent leaders are inside is a situation where we should just assume no one is armed or seeking to do any harm? No reason for the POTUS to answer pleas for help in that situation. What could go wrong? Nothing to see here!

Wow. Idiots are going to idiot.

That you're *still* nattering on about this one awful day, when the entire summer of 2020 (and beyond) was one violent, destructive LWNJ riot after another, speaks volumes.

The riots of 2020 were disgusting and awful but they in no way posed the national security threat that 100 hundreds of people storming our Capitol building and roaming the halls looking for prominent leaders to "hang" did. These situations are not comparable. You assuming I am anywhere close to left wing is laughable. Acknowledging Trump's never seen before in a POTUS dereliction of duty on that day is not and should not be something only left wingers do.

The left wing rioters were throwing full sized bricks at police officers and also deliberately set a police department alight, trying to burn police officers alive. The people “storming” the Capitol building were completely peaceful in contrast.

Jan 6th was a coup attempt. Keep trump and those thug followers out of power.

The successful coup in July is a bigger problem for me.

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This is why I believe Harris will win…because more people are blue, no matter who and the “successful” candidate switcheroo proves it.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone seen lines for early voting like they did in 2020? It’s worrying.

In 2020 we were afraid of crowds. Early voting turnout was mostly wanting to avoid other people.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe women are far, far angrier than the polling is picking up - and that we will vote Harris into the White House.

Being a nervous Democrat, my stomach is still in knots. But I do believe this.

Agree women are angry about:
1. Inflation and the impact on grocery prices,
2. Immigration and the corresponding rise in crime,
3. Having men in their daughters locker rooms, and
4. Bodily autonomy.

3 out those 4 reasons leads to an R vote.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I think we’ve found the one thing that we all agree on: the J6 poster is ruining this thread.

Yes, it does for the MAGA people that can't handle the truth about his inaction that day. Make it stop! Make it stop!

Weirdo: we're all aware of what happened on J6. That you think you need to keep rehashing it is beyond bizarre. There are so many other issues at play right now - J6 certainly isn't at the top of my list. Could you please move on.

J6 isn't the issue. The issue is what our Commander-in-Chief did while our country was in the midst of the most significant attack on our soil since 9/11. You're just hoping and praying people stop bringing up because somewhere deep down you know what he did was disqualifying but you just can't bring yourself to admit you're wrong.

Yes, a group of thugs wearing fake horns really fits this description. Nice trolling.

So in a post 9/11 world you think it is acceptable to assume hundreds of people breaching security at our United States Capitol Building while a majority of our most prominent leaders are inside is a situation where we should just assume no one is armed or seeking to do any harm? No reason for the POTUS to answer pleas for help in that situation. What could go wrong? Nothing to see here!

Wow. Idiots are going to idiot.

That you're *still* nattering on about this one awful day, when the entire summer of 2020 (and beyond) was one violent, destructive LWNJ riot after another, speaks volumes.

The riots of 2020 were disgusting and awful but they in no way posed the national security threat that 100 hundreds of people storming our Capitol building and roaming the halls looking for prominent leaders to "hang" did. These situations are not comparable. You assuming I am anywhere close to left wing is laughable. Acknowledging Trump's never seen before in a POTUS dereliction of duty on that day is not and should not be something only left wingers do.

The left wing rioters were throwing full sized bricks at police officers and also deliberately set a police department alight, trying to burn police officers alive. The people “storming” the Capitol building were completely peaceful in contrast.

Jan 6th was a coup attempt. Keep trump and those thug followers out of power.

The successful coup in July is a bigger problem for me.

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This is why I believe Harris will win…because more people are blue, no matter who and the “successful” candidate switcheroo proves it.

I love that the people who are calling Biden too old and demanding he stepped down are now mad that he did exactly that..... Just because you say you were going to run for president doesn't mean that you have to. I mean look at RFK....

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone seen lines for early voting like they did in 2020? It’s worrying.

In 2020 we were afraid of crowds. Early voting turnout was mostly wanting to avoid other people.

I voted early in 2020 because I didn't want to risk having covid on election Day and not being able to vote. I am purposely holding off until election day this year to vote because I want to take my daughter and son with me.... Most of my suburban mom friends are doing the same

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Trump fan but if he wins it won’t be because of him, it’s because Kamala is the worst candidate a major party has run for president ever. She’s so laughably bad I’m still amazed she’s the candidate they literally *handpicked*. Why?!?!

No, that would be Trump. At least she has government experience.

LOL. I wish this could be an ad for all democrat senate candidates across the country. Have you been in a coma?! In what universe are you living that that’s considered a QUALIFICATION!!! Cackling over here. Oh democrats are going to lose so badly. “Atleast she has been in government” hahahahahahahahaha

Government experience is not a qualification, and certainly not an accomplishment. What has Kamala accomplished in her professional career? As VP, she was tasked with the border crisis. Her handling of the border was an epic disaster. Kamala is quick to tell us all her government positions but, even she, can’t tell us what she has accomplished.

Trump actually made a decent argument for why government experience is a big positive in his Rogan interview.

He talked about how one the primary roles of the president is appointing people to key positions -- both the top level cabinet appointments but also the many, many lower level appointments (he overestimated the number of appointments by a lot but it's still many). This makes sense because a president is the executive of the federal government. As with any executive a lot of the job is getting the right people in the right roles. Trump told Rogan about how his first administration's failures were in part due to having "bad people" in these roles and needing to get better people there. But when you don't have a lot of experience in government it's really hard to know who is a good person for a role in some obscure agency that still has some essential function. Not only did Trump not understand enough to know how to fill these rolls but the people he hired to do it for him also didn't know -- there were just so many government novices in his administration and it led to a lot of chaos.

Even if your goal as president is to "trim the fat" and get rid of bureaucracy, you still need to have enough familiarity with the government to do this intelligently. I'd trust someone making this argument who had spent time actually working in government a lot more than Trump because they would have firsthand experience with the problems and redundancies. A total outsider knows nothing.

So take it from Trump himself -- ignorance of and lack of experience in government is a major drawback for a chief executive.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Trump fan but if he wins it won’t be because of him, it’s because Kamala is the worst candidate a major party has run for president ever. She’s so laughably bad I’m still amazed she’s the candidate they literally *handpicked*. Why?!?!

They didn't hand pick her she was the only one allowed to use bidens donations. In 2020 she polled in single digits.

It’s interesting to consider how the Democratic Party got itself in to this mess.

Given where the country was in 2020, her selection as VP was understandable. It’s debatable whether Biden even intended to serve out his first term and certainly must not have expected to run for reelection. Presumably Biden’s hope was that Kamala would build her brand as VP and be politically strong enough to take over the presidency in 2023.

That plan was screwed well and truly by Kamala’s horrible performance - both administratively and politically - as VP. The logical thing for Biden to have done then would have been to announce his intention not to run and allow the primary process to play out. Clearly he was dissuaded by others in the Democratic Party from doing this, presumably by those who argued that subjecting Kamala to a primary would be disrespectful and divisive for the party.

Given a binary choice between himself and Kamala, Biden believed that he was more electable than his VP. He was probably right about that up until the debate. After the American public saw that, Kamala was probably the better option.

In retrospect (and regardless of the actual election result), the decision to not hold a primary was the height of political arrogance. We can only hope that the decision making process around becomes the subject of a book by Bob Woodward or someone like him so that we can come to know exactly who it was that was responsible.

Thank you for this post. It lays out a lot of my trouble with the Democratic Party this cycle and why I cannot, will not vote for them this time (not voting for Trump either). I’d rather write-in (and waste, according to most) than sit out completely and shirk what I consider a fundamental right and both a privilege and a duty.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe women are far, far angrier than the polling is picking up - and that we will vote Harris into the White House.

Being a nervous Democrat, my stomach is still in knots. But I do believe this.

I think this is true, but I also think this goes both ways. They are also furious about the Democratic lean into transgender rights over women’s rights. I know a few deep blue women who are voting Trump on that issue alone. I’m in a blue state so their vote doesn’t matter, but that is a massive sea change.

But yes. Women are much, much angrier across the board than the polls are picking up.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe women are far, far angrier than the polling is picking up - and that we will vote Harris into the White House.

Being a nervous Democrat, my stomach is still in knots. But I do believe this.

I think this is true, but I also think this goes both ways. They are also furious about the Democratic lean into transgender rights over women’s rights. I know a few deep blue women who are voting Trump on that issue alone. I’m in a blue state so their vote doesn’t matter, but that is a massive sea change.

But yes. Women are much, much angrier across the board than the polls are picking up.

I am so much more than my uterus and I sure am indeed angry but not at what they're telling me to be angry about, but because Harris and the dems think ALL I am is my uterus. I have a brain too and I'm voting.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe women are far, far angrier than the polling is picking up - and that we will vote Harris into the White House.

Being a nervous Democrat, my stomach is still in knots. But I do believe this.

Agree women are angry about:
1. Inflation and the impact on grocery prices,
2. Immigration and the corresponding rise in crime,
3. Having men in their daughters locker rooms, and
4. Bodily autonomy.

3 out those 4 reasons leads to an R vote.

These things only lead to an R vote if you believe all the MAGA /Trump campaign lies. If you have any critical thinking skills, you know you must vote Harris.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Trump fan but if he wins it won’t be because of him, it’s because Kamala is the worst candidate a major party has run for president ever. She’s so laughably bad I’m still amazed she’s the candidate they literally *handpicked*. Why?!?!

They didn't hand pick her she was the only one allowed to use bidens donations. In 2020 she polled in single digits.

It’s interesting to consider how the Democratic Party got itself in to this mess.

Given where the country was in 2020, her selection as VP was understandable. It’s debatable whether Biden even intended to serve out his first term and certainly must not have expected to run for reelection. Presumably Biden’s hope was that Kamala would build her brand as VP and be politically strong enough to take over the presidency in 2023.

That plan was screwed well and truly by Kamala’s horrible performance - both administratively and politically - as VP. The logical thing for Biden to have done then would have been to announce his intention not to run and allow the primary process to play out. Clearly he was dissuaded by others in the Democratic Party from doing this, presumably by those who argued that subjecting Kamala to a primary would be disrespectful and divisive for the party.

Given a binary choice between himself and Kamala, Biden believed that he was more electable than his VP. He was probably right about that up until the debate. After the American public saw that, Kamala was probably the better option.

In retrospect (and regardless of the actual election result), the decision to not hold a primary was the height of political arrogance. We can only hope that the decision making process around becomes the subject of a book by Bob Woodward or someone like him so that we can come to know exactly who it was that was responsible.

Thank you for this post. It lays out a lot of my trouble with the Democratic Party this cycle and why I cannot, will not vote for them this time (not voting for Trump either). I’d rather write-in (and waste, according to most) than sit out completely and shirk what I consider a fundamental right and both a privilege and a duty.

I don't understand the argument being made at all.

First off being VP is like a nothing role. It's historically an annoying and amorphous position that even talented politicians struggle in. I think this is because most VPs are presidential hopefuls who get the position as a consolation prize or as part of a grooming process for president. Then they have to spend 4-8 years basically touting the president (even when they disagree with them) while also always avoiding overshadowing them. So the people in the role are often particularly ill suited for it.

The only actual job of the VP is to be alive so that they can be president if the president dies or is incapacited. Everything else is window dressing.

When people complain Harris was a bad VP I don't really get what they mean. Biden did her a real disservice by hanging immigration on her. The VP has no actual power to fix immigration. And Harris actually did something useful and productive on this point by helping to hammer out the bipartisan legislation. But then she has no power to actually get that passed and it fails. And now immigration is her fault but she has zero tools to make it better.

The real error here is that Biden got hubristic. He should have seen himself as a one-term president from the start and made choices that would explicitly help Harris win in 2024. Which means he should not have put her in the impossible position of being associate with but not actually in charge of a hot button issue. He really torpedoed her chances at that point.

And then him deciding to run in 2024 was just pure arrogance and lack of self-awareness. His family is also partially to blame for this -- they should have seen the writing on the wall and talked him out of it. The idea that Biden ran for re-election for the good of the party to spare them Harris as a candidate is BS. If he really didn't think Harris was up for the job he should have bowed out much earlier to allow for a full-field primary. Every minute he held on before bowing out made Harris more and more likely and that's entirely on Biden.

Biden did some good stuff as president but he screwed up succession. I don't view that as a failure of the Democratic party or as a good reason to help elect Donald Trump who will be worse than Biden or Harris in virtually every respect -- economy and immigration and foreign policy and budget and also filling the figurehead aspects of the role -- representing the US at home and abroad with dignity and intelligence.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe women are far, far angrier than the polling is picking up - and that we will vote Harris into the White House.

Being a nervous Democrat, my stomach is still in knots. But I do believe this.

I think this is true, but I also think this goes both ways. They are also furious about the Democratic lean into transgender rights over women’s rights. I know a few deep blue women who are voting Trump on that issue alone. I’m in a blue state so their vote doesn’t matter, but that is a massive sea change.

But yes. Women are much, much angrier across the board than the polls are picking up.

I am so much more than my uterus and I sure am indeed angry but not at what they're telling me to be angry about, but because Harris and the dems think ALL I am is my uterus. I have a brain too and I'm voting.

If this is your take, I fear your brain's capacity is limited. You are steeped in MAGA lies. The Trump campaign is the one that only sees you as only useful for childbearing. Ever listen to creepy, birth-obsessed Vance?

Trumps economic policies will sink this ship. The pains we feel now are leftover from the Trump years and he will make things worse with his tariffs etc.

We need sound border and immigration policies, not knee-jerk stupidity based on racist tropes that will lead to initiatives that will not work and only like the pockets of Trump's friends. The border issue predates both the Trump and Biden admins and the real problem is the GOPs unwillingness to do what they need to do in Congress.

Wake up.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Trump fan but if he wins it won’t be because of him, it’s because Kamala is the worst candidate a major party has run for president ever. She’s so laughably bad I’m still amazed she’s the candidate they literally *handpicked*. Why?!?!

They didn't hand pick her she was the only one allowed to use bidens donations. In 2020 she polled in single digits.

It’s interesting to consider how the Democratic Party got itself in to this mess.

Given where the country was in 2020, her selection as VP was understandable. It’s debatable whether Biden even intended to serve out his first term and certainly must not have expected to run for reelection. Presumably Biden’s hope was that Kamala would build her brand as VP and be politically strong enough to take over the presidency in 2023.

That plan was screwed well and truly by Kamala’s horrible performance - both administratively and politically - as VP. The logical thing for Biden to have done then would have been to announce his intention not to run and allow the primary process to play out. Clearly he was dissuaded by others in the Democratic Party from doing this, presumably by those who argued that subjecting Kamala to a primary would be disrespectful and divisive for the party.

Given a binary choice between himself and Kamala, Biden believed that he was more electable than his VP. He was probably right about that up until the debate. After the American public saw that, Kamala was probably the better option.

In retrospect (and regardless of the actual election result), the decision to not hold a primary was the height of political arrogance. We can only hope that the decision making process around becomes the subject of a book by Bob Woodward or someone like him so that we can come to know exactly who it was that was responsible.

Thank you for this post. It lays out a lot of my trouble with the Democratic Party this cycle and why I cannot, will not vote for them this time (not voting for Trump either). I’d rather write-in (and waste, according to most) than sit out completely and shirk what I consider a fundamental right and both a privilege and a duty.

OMG it's like you are trying out this fiction for that novel you've been working on. Is this really how you thik and what you worry about? Handing Trump the presidency by not voting will be a decent into madness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I believe women are far, far angrier than the polling is picking up - and that we will vote Harris into the White House.

Being a nervous Democrat, my stomach is still in knots. But I do believe this.

Agree women are angry about:
1. Inflation and the impact on grocery prices,
2. Immigration and the corresponding rise in crime,
3. Having men in their daughters locker rooms, and
4. Bodily autonomy.

3 out those 4 reasons leads to an R vote.

Yep that's why I voted Trump

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Harris.
The numbers of young women 18-24 years old voting for Harris and canceling out their dad’s vote is crazy. Pollester might be taking to the fathers but kids don’t respond to messages.
She will win by a few points but she will win.
When she does we need to thanks Gen Z girls!