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Anonymous wrote:Idiot pro-Palestine activist students take over historic Harvard library and accuse pro-Israel senator of supporting genocide. These arrogant aholes need to be expelled.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/an-antisemitic-occupation-of-harvard-s-widener-library/ar-AA1lzjCY?ocid=windirect&cvid=74df3f03ff46493f93e2ba3bd0553d3f&ei=19

When they have a president who will not condemn antisemitism and not say that calling for genocide is against school conduct rules, these students are emboldened to do whatever the hell they want. There are no ramifications.
I agree they should be expelled.

Expelled because they confronted a U.S. Senator who thinks Israel can do no wrong and who is blinded by the same brainwashing that occurs when politicians see dollar signs from AIPAC? Who enthusiastically supports what’s happening in Gaza when the rest of the world is aghast?

Yeah, with all due respect to the institution of the Senate itself, this guy is a just a former Marine willing to whore himself out for $$$, like just about every other politician.

No such thing as a former Marine. 😡

Show some respect for people who’ve given more to this country than you ever will.

GTFO.

You have no idea what I've given, and I don't take orders from rounding errors anyway.

He's a clown. His op-ed was pathetic and servile. The minute he sold out morality for $$$, he became a disgrace to the uniform he once wore.

If you're disrespectful and/or ignorant enough to refer to someone as a "former Marine", you haven't given much.

Every American with a pulse knows better than that.

Res ipsa loquitur.

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It's really too bad our armed forces pledge to defend all of us - even crazy LWNJs who hate their guts.

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Yep. Someone brought the receipts. So, we hold our diversity candidates to different standards? Plagiarism is a major offense unless you're a POC?


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Apparently, *everything* is a major offense... unless you're a POC. So curious.
DP

C'mon , it's not like she claimed to have cured cancer or proved a theorem... just borrowed some words on a made-up topic, BFD.


Sure. Bet you wouldn't be so blasé about it if she was a white conservative man.


Intersectionality matters.

Black women do not owe you citations.



“Intersectionality originated in critical race studies and demonstrates a multifaceted connection between race, gender, and other systems that work together to oppress, while also allowing privilege in other areas. Intersectionality is relative because it displays how race, gender, and other components "intersect" to shape the experiences of individuals. ”

- from Wiki.


I thought CRT did not exist?


It does not exist in K-12 schools.
Lol. Even NPR admitted that, OK, yeah, CRT is being taught in some K-12 schools after the AA AP course syllabus was released and it contained numerous modules from CRT authors and researchers. And any school teaching that concepts like systemic racism and white privilege exist or that racial equity is good are teaching that CRT is true. The two most common authors used to present these lessons are Ibram Kendi and Tiffany Jewel.


Okay so it's taught in like 1% of schools.

Yawn.
It's more widespread than that but if we accept your # then it's being taught in 131 school districts across the US. Given that the largest districts are usually also the most progressive (like Fairfax and Montgomery Counties in the DC area), that millions of K-12 students are being indoctrinated with CRT. Thank you for agreeing with me.

NP. It is not being taught in Fairfax County.

DP. Sure it is. It doesn't have to use the acronym "CRT" to be tenets of CRT.

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BTFRCZ6CA62E/$file/Final%20Anti-Racism%20Anti-Bias%20Curriculum%20Work%20Session%20Sept%2014%202020.pdf
https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BXX5YN128A2F/$file/FCPS%20Stakeholder%20Engagement%20Proposal%20FINAL%20SENT.pdf

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Yep. Someone brought the receipts. So, we hold our diversity candidates to different standards? Plagiarism is a major offense unless you're a POC?

+1
Apparently, *everything* is a major offense... unless you're a POC. So curious.
DP

C'mon , it's not like she claimed to have cured cancer or proved a theorem... just borrowed some words on a made-up topic, BFD.

Sure. Bet you wouldn't be so blasé about it if she was a white conservative man.

Intersectionality matters.

Black women do not owe you citations.

“Intersectionality originated in critical race studies and demonstrates a multifaceted connection between race, gender, and other systems that work together to oppress, while also allowing privilege in other areas. Intersectionality is relative because it displays how race, gender, and other components "intersect" to shape the experiences of individuals. ”

- from Wiki.


I thought CRT did not exist?

It does not exist in K-12 schools.

CRT exists in Fairfax County public high schools.

My own daughter came home talking about how it was taught in one of her classes, and discussed in another.

PP: are you lying Terry?

Sure, Jan. Sure it was.

Are you saying systemic racism and white privilege aren't being taught in Fairfax County? Come on man.

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This is CRT. But the gaslighting here is so typical.

"Terms to Know
Bias
Implicit Bias - Unconscious attitudes and stereotypes that
affect our understanding, actions, beliefs, and decisions.
Explicit Bias - Conscious attitude or belief that occurs as a result
of a deliberate thought or action.
Racism
Individual Racism - Pre-judgement, bias or discrimination by an
individual based on ideas of racial inferiority that may be
consciously or unconsciously held. It includes both privately
held beliefs, conscious and unconscious, and external
behaviors and actions of others.
Institutional Racism - Occurs within institutions and
organizations such as schools, that adopt and maintain
policies, practices, and procedures that often unintentionally
produce inequitable outcomes for people of color and
advantages for white people.

Systems of Oppression
Racism, sexism, ableism,
classism, etc.:
• Rules
• Policies
• Procedures
• Practices
• Curriculum
• Customs & Traditions
https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BTFRCZ6CA62E/$file/Final%20Anti-Racism%20Anti-Bias%20Curriculum%20Work%20Session%20Sept%2014%202020.pdf

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Yep. Someone brought the receipts. So, we hold our diversity candidates to different standards? Plagiarism is a major offense unless you're a POC?


+1
Apparently, *everything* is a major offense... unless you're a POC. So curious.
DP

C'mon , it's not like she claimed to have cured cancer or proved a theorem... just borrowed some words on a made-up topic, BFD.


Sure. Bet you wouldn't be so blasé about it if she was a white conservative man.


Intersectionality matters.

Black women do not owe you citations.



“Intersectionality originated in critical race studies and demonstrates a multifaceted connection between race, gender, and other systems that work together to oppress, while also allowing privilege in other areas. Intersectionality is relative because it displays how race, gender, and other components "intersect" to shape the experiences of individuals. ”

- from Wiki.


I thought CRT did not exist?


It does not exist in K-12 schools.
Lol. Even NPR admitted that, OK, yeah, CRT is being taught in some K-12 schools after the AA AP course syllabus was released and it contained numerous modules from CRT authors and researchers. And any school teaching that concepts like systemic racism and white privilege exist or that racial equity is good are teaching that CRT is true. The two most common authors used to present these lessons are Ibram Kendi and Tiffany Jewel.


Okay so it's taught in like 1% of schools.

Yawn.
It's more widespread than that but if we accept your # then it's being taught in 131 school districts across the US. Given that the largest districts are usually also the most progressive (like Fairfax and Montgomery Counties in the DC area), that millions of K-12 students are being indoctrinated with CRT. Thank you for agreeing with me.

NP. It is not being taught in Fairfax County.

FFx Co paid CRT scholar Kendi $20K for a 1 hour Zoom presentation and then tens of thousands more on his book which they then taught as the truth in many of their schools.

Yep. And $49,600 to "The Leadership Academy" to develop the "anti-bias/racism curriculum." But sure - "no CRT"!
https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BXX5YN128A2F/$file/FCPS%20Stakeholder%20Engagement%20Proposal%20FINAL%20SENT.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Love the Community Note.

Yep. Someone brought the receipts. So, we hold our diversity candidates to different standards? Plagiarism is a major offense unless you're a POC?

+1
Apparently, *everything* is a major offense... unless you're a POC. So curious.
DP

C'mon , it's not like she claimed to have cured cancer or proved a theorem... just borrowed some words on a made-up topic, BFD.

Sure. Bet you wouldn't be so blasé about it if she was a white conservative man.

Intersectionality matters.

Black women do not owe you citations.

You win the thread. No need to continue posting.

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I laughed so hard. Pretty sure the PP is just having some fun by caricaturing the liberals here - and doing a mighty fine job!

Caricaturing leftists. FTFY.

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Yep. Someone brought the receipts. So, we hold our diversity candidates to different standards? Plagiarism is a major offense unless you're a POC?

+1
Apparently, *everything* is a major offense... unless you're a POC. So curious.
DP

C'mon , it's not like she claimed to have cured cancer or proved a theorem... just borrowed some words on a made-up topic, BFD.

Sure. Bet you wouldn't be so blasé about it if she was a white conservative man.

Intersectionality matters.

Black women do not owe you citations.

“Intersectionality originated in critical race studies and demonstrates a multifaceted connection between race, gender, and other systems that work together to oppress, while also allowing privilege in other areas. Intersectionality is relative because it displays how race, gender, and other components "intersect" to shape the experiences of individuals. ”

- from Wiki.


I thought CRT did not exist?

It does not exist in K-12 schools.

CRT exists in Fairfax County public high schools.

My own daughter came home talking about how it was taught in one of her classes, and discussed in another.

PP: are you lying Terry?

Sure, Jan. Sure it was.

Isn’t enough you lied repeatedly to the voters of Virginia about how CRT IS taught in Fairfax schools, and lost your chance of having Terry McAuliffe as governor?

But sure. Go ahead and double down on your stupidity and lies.

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Even when presented with actual links and citations (something Ms. Gay seems unfamiliar with), these idiots will still pretend it's not happening.

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Anonymous wrote:Idiot pro-Palestine activist students take over historic Harvard library and accuse pro-Israel senator of supporting genocide. These arrogant aholes need to be expelled.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/an-antisemitic-occupation-of-harvard-s-widener-library/ar-AA1lzjCY?ocid=windirect&cvid=74df3f03ff46493f93e2ba3bd0553d3f&ei=19

When they have a president who will not condemn antisemitism and not say that calling for genocide is against school conduct rules, these students are emboldened to do whatever the hell they want. There are no ramifications.
I agree they should be expelled.

Expelled because they confronted a U.S. Senator who thinks Israel can do no wrong and who is blinded by the same brainwashing that occurs when politicians see dollar signs from AIPAC? Who enthusiastically supports what’s happening in Gaza when the rest of the world is aghast?

Yeah, with all due respect to the institution of the Senate itself, this guy is a just a former Marine willing to whore himself out for $$$, like just about every other politician.

No such thing as a former Marine. 😡

Show some respect for people who’ve given more to this country than you ever will.

GTFO.

You have no idea what I've given, and I don't take orders from rounding errors anyway.

He's a clown. His op-ed was pathetic and servile. The minute he sold out morality for $$$, he became a disgrace to the uniform he once wore.

We've found the clown ^^

OMG, that's so funny!

[Anonymous]

Here is a highly respected, black scholar listing exactly how much damage Ms. Gay caused with her plagiarism. Utterly scathing:

Ms. Gay’s damage to me is aggravated because her early work was in the area where my research is considered seminal. Her scholarship on black congressional representation, electoral districting and descriptive representation builds on terrain where I plowed the ground.

When one follows in the footsteps of a more senior scholar, one is expected to acknowledge the latter’s contribution to the field and how one’s own research and ideas refute, affirm or expand knowledge in the area. Ms. Gay ignored the substantive importance of my research, which she should have acknowledged and engaged. A single citation or two wouldn’t usually be considered intellectually honest.

When scholars aren’t cited adequately or their work is ignored, it harms them because academic stature is determined by how often other researchers cite your work. Ms. Gay had no problem riding on the coattails of people whose work she used without proper attribution. Many of those whose work she pilfered aren’t as incensed as I am. They are elites who have benefited from a system that protects its own.

Even aside from the documented instances of plagiarism, Ms. Gay’s work wouldn’t normally have earned tenure in the Ivy League. Tenure at a top-tier institution normally demands ground-breaking originality; her work displays none. In a world where the privilege of diversity is king, Ms. Gay was able to parlay mediocre research into tenure and administrative advancement at what was once considered a world-class university.

Harvard can’t condemn Ms. Gay because she is the product of an elite system that holds minorities of high pedigree to a lower standard. This harms academia as a whole, and it demeans Americans, of all races, who had to work for everything they earned.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/claudine-gay-and-my-scholarship-plagiarism-elite-system-unearned-position-24e4a1b1?st=u1c5njcpqqoyqhi&reflink=article_copyURL_share

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a highly respected, black scholar listing exactly how much damage Ms. Gay caused with her plagiarism. Utterly scathing:

Ms. Gay’s damage to me is aggravated because her early work was in the area where my research is considered seminal. Her scholarship on black congressional representation, electoral districting and descriptive representation builds on terrain where I plowed the ground.

When one follows in the footsteps of a more senior scholar, one is expected to acknowledge the latter’s contribution to the field and how one’s own research and ideas refute, affirm or expand knowledge in the area. Ms. Gay ignored the substantive importance of my research, which she should have acknowledged and engaged. A single citation or two wouldn’t usually be considered intellectually honest.

When scholars aren’t cited adequately or their work is ignored, it harms them because academic stature is determined by how often other researchers cite your work. Ms. Gay had no problem riding on the coattails of people whose work she used without proper attribution. Many of those whose work she pilfered aren’t as incensed as I am. They are elites who have benefited from a system that protects its own.

Even aside from the documented instances of plagiarism, Ms. Gay’s work wouldn’t normally have earned tenure in the Ivy League. Tenure at a top-tier institution normally demands ground-breaking originality; her work displays none. In a world where the privilege of diversity is king, Ms. Gay was able to parlay mediocre research into tenure and administrative advancement at what was once considered a world-class university.

Harvard can’t condemn Ms. Gay because she is the product of an elite system that holds minorities of high pedigree to a lower standard. This harms academia as a whole, and it demeans Americans, of all races, who had to work for everything they earned.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/claudine-gay-and-my-scholarship-plagiarism-elite-system-unearned-position-24e4a1b1?st=u1c5njcpqqoyqhi&reflink=article_copyURL_share

Carol Swain is a Black Republican and ideological adversary of the likes of Claudine Gay.

On the other had, Lawrence Bobo, who she is also said to have plagiarized and who is an ideological fellow traveller of hers, has remained supportive of Gay.

It should be noted that Gay and Bobo are said to have conspired to mete out a harsher punishment for Roland Fryer at Harvard than they otherwise would have due to his research findings (particularly on policing and lethal harm to black people) undermining their ideological inclinations.

Lot of politics and drama.

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Why has a discussion that began with a focus on certain universities' approaches to speech surrounding the Israel/Gaza situation morphed into one focused on whether Gay should remain as Harvard president based on allegations of plagiarism? Shouldn't that be an internal matter for Harvard?

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Anonymous wrote:Why has a discussion that began with a focus on certain universities' approaches to speech surrounding the Israel/Gaza situation morphed into one focused on whether Gay should remain as Harvard president based on allegations of plagiarism? Shouldn't that be an internal matter for Harvard?

It's an opportunistic pile on. Plagiarism might be a good enough pretext to get her out of there if the Harvard Corporation won't be persuaded by the handling of anti-semitism. This is basically an ideological warfare by another name.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a highly respected, black scholar listing exactly how much damage Ms. Gay caused with her plagiarism. Utterly scathing:

Ms. Gay’s damage to me is aggravated because her early work was in the area where my research is considered seminal. Her scholarship on black congressional representation, electoral districting and descriptive representation builds on terrain where I plowed the ground.

When one follows in the footsteps of a more senior scholar, one is expected to acknowledge the latter’s contribution to the field and how one’s own research and ideas refute, affirm or expand knowledge in the area. Ms. Gay ignored the substantive importance of my research, which she should have acknowledged and engaged. A single citation or two wouldn’t usually be considered intellectually honest.

When scholars aren’t cited adequately or their work is ignored, it harms them because academic stature is determined by how often other researchers cite your work. Ms. Gay had no problem riding on the coattails of people whose work she used without proper attribution. Many of those whose work she pilfered aren’t as incensed as I am. They are elites who have benefited from a system that protects its own.

Even aside from the documented instances of plagiarism, Ms. Gay’s work wouldn’t normally have earned tenure in the Ivy League. Tenure at a top-tier institution normally demands ground-breaking originality; her work displays none. In a world where the privilege of diversity is king, Ms. Gay was able to parlay mediocre research into tenure and administrative advancement at what was once considered a world-class university.

Harvard can’t condemn Ms. Gay because she is the product of an elite system that holds minorities of high pedigree to a lower standard. This harms academia as a whole, and it demeans Americans, of all races, who had to work for everything they earned.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/claudine-gay-and-my-scholarship-plagiarism-elite-system-unearned-position-24e4a1b1?st=u1c5njcpqqoyqhi&reflink=article_copyURL_share

A lot of truth in that last paragraph

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Anonymous wrote:Why has a discussion that began with a focus on certain universities' approaches to speech surrounding the Israel/Gaza situation morphed into one focused on whether Gay should remain as Harvard president based on allegations of plagiarism? Shouldn't that be an internal matter for Harvard?

It's an opportunistic pile on. Plagiarism might be a good enough pretext to get her out of there if the Harvard Corporation won't be persuaded by the handling of anti-semitism. This is basically an ideological warfare by another name.

So people that want her out as president want her out solely because of her comments during the congressional hearing? I don't know...I think that in addition to that, it's also an opportunity--since they already have peoples' attention--to take a swing at "diversity hires" and elite universities in general--two things that seem to really rile up Republicans.

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I would imagine that she might be out at some point in the near future. But key people on the board (Pritzker?) are Huge Fans of hers. Harvard is becoming a mess and it is not clear that the main library is a safe space for Jewish students.

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Anonymous wrote:Why has a discussion that began with a focus on certain universities' approaches to speech surrounding the Israel/Gaza situation morphed into one focused on whether Gay should remain as Harvard president based on allegations of plagiarism? Shouldn't that be an internal matter for Harvard?

It's an opportunistic pile on. Plagiarism might be a good enough pretext to get her out of there if the Harvard Corporation won't be persuaded by the handling of anti-semitism. This is basically an ideological warfare by another name.

So people that want her out as president want her out solely because of her comments during the congressional hearing? I don't know...I think that in addition to that, it's also an opportunity--since they already have peoples' attention--to take a swing at "diversity hires" and elite universities in general--two things that seem to really rile up Republicans.

I would think no one would want to be considered as a "diversity hire." Very demeaning.