US Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action in College Admissions

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Thank goodness! -Asian ivy alum
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Anonymous wrote:The Babylon bee satire:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuFXq-ivz1S/?igshid=MTIzZWMxMTBkOA==

https://babylonbee.com/news/awkward-supreme-court-rules-against-affirmative-action-with-affirmative-action-hire-standing-right-there



Not the Bee’s best. Lame and rude.


Agreed. Sometimes they are very funny. This one kind of stank.


It’s never funny.


Jackson graduated magna cum laude from Harvard College and cum laude from Harvard Law School.

Jackson is the most experienced trial court judge to join the Supreme Court in almost a century.

Jackson served on the United States District Court for the District of Columbia for nearly 8 years, giving her more trial court experience than any sitting Supreme Court justice and more than any justice since Edward Sanford, who was nominated to the Supreme Court in 1923.

Jackson is only the second sitting justice to serve at all three levels of the federal judiciary.

Jackson has more than eight years of experience as a judge— more than Justices Thomas, Roberts, Kagan, and Barrett had combined when they were confirmed.

Jackson is the first public defender to become a Supreme Court justice in the history of the Court.

She is first justice with substantial criminal defense experience since Thurgood Marshall retired in 1991.

She was one of three-judges on the D.C. Circuit that rejected Trump's attempt to keep the National Archives and Records Administration from turning over his White House records to the House select committee investigating the January 6 assault.


Justice Jackson is what mediocre whites are afraid of. There are many like her waiting in the wings in future elite college admission cycles. AA or not.


Where have they been and what were they waiting for? Now is when they are going to come out of the woodwork?
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Anonymous wrote:The Babylon bee satire:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuFXq-ivz1S/?igshid=MTIzZWMxMTBkOA==

https://babylonbee.com/news/awkward-supreme-court-rules-against-affirmative-action-with-affirmative-action-hire-standing-right-there



Not the Bee’s best. Lame and rude.


Agreed. Sometimes they are very funny. This one kind of stank.


It’s never funny.


Jackson graduated magna cum laude from Harvard College and cum laude from Harvard Law School.

Jackson is the most experienced trial court judge to join the Supreme Court in almost a century.

Jackson served on the United States District Court for the District of Columbia for nearly 8 years, giving her more trial court experience than any sitting Supreme Court justice and more than any justice since Edward Sanford, who was nominated to the Supreme Court in 1923.

Jackson is only the second sitting justice to serve at all three levels of the federal judiciary.

Jackson has more than eight years of experience as a judge— more than Justices Thomas, Roberts, Kagan, and Barrett had combined when they were confirmed.

Jackson is the first public defender to become a Supreme Court justice in the history of the Court.

She is first justice with substantial criminal defense experience since Thurgood Marshall retired in 1991.

She was one of three-judges on the D.C. Circuit that rejected Trump's attempt to keep the National Archives and Records Administration from turning over his White House records to the House select committee investigating the January 6 assault.


Justice Jackson is what mediocre whites are afraid of. There are many like her waiting in the wings in future elite college admission cycles. AA or not.


Yeah, I saw that “satirical” headline and thought it would be a picture of Thomas. What was his credential for the federal bench? He ran the EEOC? And not very well. No one else would get a Supreme Court appointment with that background. The R’s needed a Bladk man to replace Marshall and he was the most conservative d one they could find. He’s the affirmative action hire and he knows it — that’s why he has an enormous chip on his shoulder.


If by “chip on his shoulder,” you mean “understanding of how stigmatizing affirmative action for its supposed beneficiaries” then sure! And why shouldn’t he have a chip on his shoulder when there are jerks like you who dismiss him because he’s a conservative?
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Anonymous wrote:Inadvertently, this might end up with MORE brown and black students at Harvard.
Reason, if you look at what happened in the U of Cal system. Qualified black students will avoid schools with few black students. They will gravitate to schools that have more black students. Harvard will have more applications from qualified black students who will pull out of other schools. It might become a mecca of highly qualified black students. I hope so.


If that’s the result, so be it! If ending AA HELPS Blacks getting admitted, good! Universities, governments and big corporations have been playing the race card against Asian-Americans for too long.


You don’t get it. The black students will vacate certain schools. Not because they weren’t qualified, but because there aren’t enough black students there. And what’s too long? Aw shucks a generation of “unfairness “ vs 400 years of abuse.


+1 I predict a (continued) increase in top applicants heading for HBCUs.


Agree. My DC has a 4.0 uw GPA taking the most rigorous classes. DC wants diversity, but would rather go to an HBCU than be 1 of 300 black undergrads on campus. Many great schools that are on their list get eliminated once the lack of diversity is discovered.


Not a single HBCU has the department / major my DS is looking for. To be fair, most don't.

And he will be in college to learn - not for the comfortable social life.


But if you can find a few great schools, with your intended major AND at a place where you will feel more "at home" and not a "minority" then why shouldn't your kid choose that if they desire? I went to a T10 school 30+ years ago. One of my best friends was female, black and an engineering major. She was a minority in all 3 aspects, on a campus with approximately only 2% of students being black. It was challenging to fit in with many groups. After having grown up in a neighborhood that was largely black and the rest was hispanic/latino/immigrants, it was difficult to "fit in at a school that was 65%+ white and another 15% + asian and where 65% of campus was well off, as in no financial aide. She largely found her group with the SWE and society of black engineers.

Why not go somewhere your kid feels comfortable and is able to grow and excel academically and socially?

I can assure you that even if Harvard was a HBCU, majority of rich white kids who grew up in largely white/asian communities without much diversity at their schools would not be clamoring to attend, because people want to be somewhere they feel most comfortable and a key part of that is what you are used to.

DP. You are a stupid separate but equal person. For your info, the last such train left the station long ago. Now STFU.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Babylon bee satire:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuFXq-ivz1S/?igshid=MTIzZWMxMTBkOA==

https://babylonbee.com/news/awkward-supreme-court-rules-against-affirmative-action-with-affirmative-action-hire-standing-right-there



Not the Bee’s best. Lame and rude.


Agreed. Sometimes they are very funny. This one kind of stank.


It’s never funny.


Jackson graduated magna cum laude from Harvard College and cum laude from Harvard Law School.

Jackson is the most experienced trial court judge to join the Supreme Court in almost a century.

Jackson served on the United States District Court for the District of Columbia for nearly 8 years, giving her more trial court experience than any sitting Supreme Court justice and more than any justice since Edward Sanford, who was nominated to the Supreme Court in 1923.

Jackson is only the second sitting justice to serve at all three levels of the federal judiciary.

Jackson has more than eight years of experience as a judge— more than Justices Thomas, Roberts, Kagan, and Barrett had combined when they were confirmed.

Jackson is the first public defender to become a Supreme Court justice in the history of the Court.

She is first justice with substantial criminal defense experience since Thurgood Marshall retired in 1991.

She was one of three-judges on the D.C. Circuit that rejected Trump's attempt to keep the National Archives and Records Administration from turning over his White House records to the House select committee investigating the January 6 assault.


Justice Jackson is what mediocre whites are afraid of. There are many like her waiting in the wings in future elite college admission cycles. AA or not.


Yeah, I saw that “satirical” headline and thought it would be a picture of Thomas. What was his credential for the federal bench? He ran the EEOC? And not very well. No one else would get a Supreme Court appointment with that background. The R’s needed a Bladk man to replace Marshall and he was the most conservative d one they could find. He’s the affirmative action hire and he knows it — that’s why he has an enormous chip on his shoulder.


Being picked for your political views doesn’t make you an affirmative action hire. And it was Dems who were adamant that there be a black person to fill Marshall’s seat - they’re the ones who have wanted diversity for its own sake on the court.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Inadvertently, this might end up with MORE brown and black students at Harvard.
Reason, if you look at what happened in the U of Cal system. Qualified black students will avoid schools with few black students. They will gravitate to schools that have more black students. Harvard will have more applications from qualified black students who will pull out of other schools. It might become a mecca of highly qualified black students. I hope so.


If that’s the result, so be it! If ending AA HELPS Blacks getting admitted, good! Universities, governments and big corporations have been playing the race card against Asian-Americans for too long.


You don’t get it. The black students will vacate certain schools. Not because they weren’t qualified, but because there aren’t enough black students there. And what’s too long? Aw shucks a generation of “unfairness “ vs 400 years of abuse.


+1 I predict a (continued) increase in top applicants heading for HBCUs.


Agree. My DC has a 4.0 uw GPA taking the most rigorous classes. DC wants diversity, but would rather go to an HBCU than be 1 of 300 black undergrads on campus. Many great schools that are on their list get eliminated once the lack of diversity is discovered.


Why would you assume that no other black kid is like your dc? Race blind is just race blind, not race suppression. It seems many assume blacks won’t get in elite colleges if race is not considered. That’s not true at all.
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Anonymous wrote:I believe that government funded schools like the military academies should represent the population.


The population overall? The population of high school students?

Quick look at the Census site says Virginia is:

58% white
20% black
10% Hispanic
7% Asian
the rest are multi-racial

Just to pick one school, UVA is
65% white
8% Black
9% Hispanics
18% Asian
the rest multi-racial

They can accept people, but that doesn’t mean those people will actually decide to go there, so how does that work?


I believe that colleges should reflect the college-going population.


It doesn’t matter what “you” believe. The Supreme Court has long decided that institutions don’t need to reflect the population. For example, an organization, company or school doesn’t need to have 10% of its employees/students be Hispanic if the general population is 10% hispanic
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Inadvertently, this might end up with MORE brown and black students at Harvard.
Reason, if you look at what happened in the U of Cal system. Qualified black students will avoid schools with few black students. They will gravitate to schools that have more black students. Harvard will have more applications from qualified black students who will pull out of other schools. It might become a mecca of highly qualified black students. I hope so.


If that’s the result, so be it! If ending AA HELPS Blacks getting admitted, good! Universities, governments and big corporations have been playing the race card against Asian-Americans for too long.


You don’t get it. The black students will vacate certain schools. Not because they weren’t qualified, but because there aren’t enough black students there. And what’s too long? Aw shucks a generation of “unfairness “ vs 400 years of abuse.


+1 I predict a (continued) increase in top applicants heading for HBCUs.


Agree. My DC has a 4.0 uw GPA taking the most rigorous classes. DC wants diversity, but would rather go to an HBCU than be 1 of 300 black undergrads on campus. Many great schools that are on their list get eliminated once the lack of diversity is discovered.


Not a single HBCU has the department / major my DS is looking for. To be fair, most don't.

And he will be in college to learn - not for the comfortable social life.


But if you can find a few great schools, with your intended major AND at a place where you will feel more "at home" and not a "minority" then why shouldn't your kid choose that if they desire? I went to a T10 school 30+ years ago. One of my best friends was female, black and an engineering major. She was a minority in all 3 aspects, on a campus with approximately only 2% of students being black. It was challenging to fit in with many groups. After having grown up in a neighborhood that was largely black and the rest was hispanic/latino/immigrants, it was difficult to "fit in at a school that was 65%+ white and another 15% + asian and where 65% of campus was well off, as in no financial aide. She largely found her group with the SWE and society of black engineers.

Why not go somewhere your kid feels comfortable and is able to grow and excel academically and socially?

I can assure you that even if Harvard was a HBCU, majority of rich white kids who grew up in largely white/asian communities without much diversity at their schools would not be clamoring to attend, because people want to be somewhere they feel most comfortable and a key part of that is what you are used to.


Wow. Not only are you presumptuously speaking for someone you know - someone who could speak for themselves - you presume to know what all other people want? Double wow.

He wants to study condensed matter physics. If he is lucky enough to be accepted to multiple programs and he can't decide then MAYBE having classmates with similar backgrounds will be a factor. But, again, and seriously, WOW.

He will be comfortable around other students he can actually speak to. You honestly think "Hi. We're both Afro-Latino." is a conversation that will last four years?

Idiot.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Inadvertently, this might end up with MORE brown and black students at Harvard.
Reason, if you look at what happened in the U of Cal system. Qualified black students will avoid schools with few black students. They will gravitate to schools that have more black students. Harvard will have more applications from qualified black students who will pull out of other schools. It might become a mecca of highly qualified black students. I hope so.


If that’s the result, so be it! If ending AA HELPS Blacks getting admitted, good! Universities, governments and big corporations have been playing the race card against Asian-Americans for too long.


You don’t get it. The black students will vacate certain schools. Not because they weren’t qualified, but because there aren’t enough black students there. And what’s too long? Aw shucks a generation of “unfairness “ vs 400 years of abuse.


+1 I predict a (continued) increase in top applicants heading for HBCUs.


Agree. My DC has a 4.0 uw GPA taking the most rigorous classes. DC wants diversity, but would rather go to an HBCU than be 1 of 300 black undergrads on campus. Many great schools that are on their list get eliminated once the lack of diversity is discovered.


Not a single HBCU has the department / major my DS is looking for. To be fair, most don't.

And he will be in college to learn - not for the comfortable social life.


But if you can find a few great schools, with your intended major AND at a place where you will feel more "at home" and not a "minority" then why shouldn't your kid choose that if they desire? I went to a T10 school 30+ years ago. One of my best friends was female, black and an engineering major. She was a minority in all 3 aspects, on a campus with approximately only 2% of students being black. It was challenging to fit in with many groups. After having grown up in a neighborhood that was largely black and the rest was hispanic/latino/immigrants, it was difficult to "fit in at a school that was 65%+ white and another 15% + asian and where 65% of campus was well off, as in no financial aide. She largely found her group with the SWE and society of black engineers.

Why not go somewhere your kid feels comfortable and is able to grow and excel academically and socially?

I can assure you that even if Harvard was a HBCU, majority of rich white kids who grew up in largely white/asian communities without much diversity at their schools would not be clamoring to attend, because people want to be somewhere they feel most comfortable and a key part of that is what you are used to.

DP. You are a stupid separate but equal person. For your info, the last such train left the station long ago. Now STFU.


DP. ??? How was that a “separate but equal” argument. Have you been drinking since the opinion came out?
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Anonymous wrote:Praise the Lord!!!



There are so many things to address here like the fact that Asians will never get the acceptance that they so desperately crave from white people and were used. They were made the face of anti-affirmative action which means they get all the backlash and criticism while racist whites who lobbied for this for decades go by under the radar. And then on top of that, they will NEVER become the majority in Ivy Leagues and these schools will just use other metrics like socioeconomic status to maintain or increase minority enrollment




Policies like Affirmative Action and other laws were necessary because you literally had to FORCE people to not be racist because they wouldn’t do it on their own smh
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Inadvertently, this might end up with MORE brown and black students at Harvard.
Reason, if you look at what happened in the U of Cal system. Qualified black students will avoid schools with few black students. They will gravitate to schools that have more black students. Harvard will have more applications from qualified black students who will pull out of other schools. It might become a mecca of highly qualified black students. I hope so.


If that’s the result, so be it! If ending AA HELPS Blacks getting admitted, good! Universities, governments and big corporations have been playing the race card against Asian-Americans for too long.


You don’t get it. The black students will vacate certain schools. Not because they weren’t qualified, but because there aren’t enough black students there. And what’s too long? Aw shucks a generation of “unfairness “ vs 400 years of abuse.


+1 I predict a (continued) increase in top applicants heading for HBCUs.


Agree. My DC has a 4.0 uw GPA taking the most rigorous classes. DC wants diversity, but would rather go to an HBCU than be 1 of 300 black undergrads on campus. Many great schools that are on their list get eliminated once the lack of diversity is discovered.


Not a single HBCU has the department / major my DS is looking for. To be fair, most don't.

And he will be in college to learn - not for the comfortable social life.


Great for your DS!

HBCUs have my DCs major. My kid will be there for both. Their social and mental health are important as well as their education. So glad you can choose what is best for your family.
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Anonymous wrote:The Babylon bee satire:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuFXq-ivz1S/?igshid=MTIzZWMxMTBkOA==

https://babylonbee.com/news/awkward-supreme-court-rules-against-affirmative-action-with-affirmative-action-hire-standing-right-there



Not the Bee’s best. Lame and rude.




And the super majority belonging to the true Affirmative Action “privileged” group voted to gut poor blacks’ one chance of a helping hand. Very rich. If they really mean equal treatment to all, then they would have equally gutted ALDC admissions handouts. Shame on them.
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Anonymous wrote:Praise the Lord!!!

Who? White Jesus?
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Anonymous wrote:How about blasians? Where do they stand on this issue?


Blasians can check Black.

What do you think.



As the most uncommon bi-racial (versus run-of-the-mill black+white, white+asian, white-Latino, etc) type, blasians may be well-served by emphasizing BOTH sides of their racial identity in the now obligatory diversity essay. The schools will love it. They get their black presence and insulation against anti-Asian bias in one fell swoop. If they have academic creds in reasonable range, they will be golden children!!!
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The criteria for admission doesn’t have to change at all- they WILL still be denied based on many other factors in favor of legacy admissions.

Asians are WELL represented in higher education. This will absolutely have the opposite effect and they will be admitted in lower numbers.

California banned AA in 1996, and rates for Asians plummeted. Same thing will happen here.
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