Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone been following the Bill Akerman Hamptons meeting thing?
It’s wild! Apparently, her post had been taken down but she reposted. As the saying goes, she should be protected at all costs. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOpTNQYiPiH/


Apparently it was some type of intervention with very powerful and rich people for Charlie Kirk because he was starting to shift his position on Israel and was platforming anti Zionist speakers. These are the same people who are conspiring against mamdani as well

Anyone know the time frame from when the meeting was held (in the Hamptons, as in East End LI?) and the rally? Did Kirk go to Israel after that meeting? Allegedly, he was “invited” for rewiring because he flipped on Israel. Conflicting info all around this hot mess of leaky deets. I trust CO!
Anonymous
There is not one shred of evidence that he was a "radical leftist." Not one. I challenge you people who keep saying this to come up with one piece of evidence.

Not liking Charlie Kirk =/= radical leftist ideology

There is a lot of evidence that he was brought up in an ultra conservative family and area and that he mostly inhabited a gamer world that is steeped in alt-right ideology. And his friends say he was "apolitical."

For God sake, being gay and having a trans partner - assuming this is true - does not make you a leftist. He was also a staunch supporter of the 2nd amendment which, in a lot of people's minds, makes him a RWNJ.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone know who the bodyguards were that day? Anyone?


How would anyone on DCUM know this? Go ask his wife.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The bodyguards failed miserably.


Oh, please. The bodyguard were there to stop people from rushing him or attacking him face to face.
They did not have security for a shooter that was 150 yards away.

Who are the bodyguards though? That day?


Can you please drop this issue about the bodyguards? If you want this information you'll have to find it elsewhere. Like in the many videos of the event, you could look at the obvious bodyguards and then try to figure out who they are if it's so very important to you.

Regardless, after this performance I think they'll need to change fields. Better security would mean Charlie Kirk would still be alive.

The identities and hand signals of the body guards matters tremendously here.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.


It's been reported he confessed to both parents before turning himself in. Why is neither one disputing that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone been following the Bill Akerman Hamptons meeting thing?
It’s wild! Apparently, her post had been taken down but she reposted. As the saying goes, she should be protected at all costs. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOpTNQYiPiH/


Apparently it was some type of intervention with very powerful and rich people for Charlie Kirk because he was starting to shift his position on Israel and was platforming anti Zionist speakers. These are the same people who are conspiring against mamdani as well

Anyone know the time frame from when the meeting was held (in the Hamptons, as in East End LI?) and the rally? Did Kirk go to Israel after that meeting? Allegedly, he was “invited” for rewiring because he flipped on Israel. Conflicting info all around this hot mess of leaky deets. I trust CO!


Meeting was August 4th. Kirk’s interview with Megyn Kelly was August 6th.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Well I’m a mom with kids Tyler’s age and I said yesterday that after reading those texts I knew they were fake because my kids have never once used a period (I checked before I made the claim).

I also don’t believe the JFK one bullet theory, so if that’s conspiracy minded, oh well.

Funny that you are stating an actual paranoia when my doubt is based on non-credible evidence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The bodyguards failed miserably.


Oh, please. The bodyguard were there to stop people from rushing him or attacking him face to face.
They did not have security for a shooter that was 150 yards away.

Who are the bodyguards though? That day?


Can you please drop this issue about the bodyguards? If you want this information you'll have to find it elsewhere. Like in the many videos of the event, you could look at the obvious bodyguards and then try to figure out who they are if it's so very important to you.

Regardless, after this performance I think they'll need to change fields. Better security would mean Charlie Kirk would still be alive.

The identities and hand signals of the body guards matters tremendously here.


Hopefully the local LEO has looked into this. I would assume they have. But I think it is even safer to assume that the body guards were more concerned with crowd control or someone throwing a punch than a shooter. The school itself had zero security despite Utah laws. Keep in mind that a new state law (HB 128) went into effect in May 2025, allowing people with a concealed carry permit to openly carry firearms on college campuses. And still, neither a checkpoint not a metal detector in sight. They simply were not anticipating anything like this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.


It's been reported he confessed to both parents before turning himself in. Why is neither one disputing that?

We do not know that he confessed, we only know he turned himself in. Presumably he turned himself in because he was the only suspect.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Well I’m a mom with kids Tyler’s age and I said yesterday that after reading those texts I knew they were fake because my kids have never once used a period (I checked before I made the claim).

I also don’t believe the JFK one bullet theory, so if that’s conspiracy minded, oh well.

Funny that you are stating an actual paranoia when my doubt is based on non-credible evidence.


Yeah, I am pretty much anti-conspiracy theory. I can't think of one that I find convincing, including the ones proposed on this thread.

But the texts don't sound like a 22 year old. Period. They don't look like his discord messages either, for that matter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The most plausible theory is not that the FBI came up with this third rate romance level text language, but that TR and the boyfriend did, perhaps weeks ago, to save the boyfriend’s skin.


The event was announced at UVU only two weeks in advance. Not much time for planning.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is there a way to ID the bodyguards?


Why are you so hung up on the bodyguards?

Because they were acting suspiciously imo, and I want to know who they are and why they were making those hand signals and what they signified.


I asked this early in the thread and got brushed off. “It’s a guy adjusting his hat.” Okay, what about the guy next to him who starts signaling right after the “hat adjustment” and then shots ring. Also, why would his security detail be filing the crowd?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The bodyguards failed miserably.


Oh, please. The bodyguard were there to stop people from rushing him or attacking him face to face.
They did not have security for a shooter that was 150 yards away.

Who are the bodyguards though? That day?


Can you please drop this issue about the bodyguards? If you want this information you'll have to find it elsewhere. Like in the many videos of the event, you could look at the obvious bodyguards and then try to figure out who they are if it's so very important to you.

Regardless, after this performance I think they'll need to change fields. Better security would mean Charlie Kirk would still be alive.

The identities and hand signals of the body guards matters tremendously here.


Hopefully the local LEO has looked into this. I would assume they have. But I think it is even safer to assume that the body guards were more concerned with crowd control or someone throwing a punch than a shooter. The school itself had zero security despite Utah laws. Keep in mind that a new state law (HB 128) went into effect in May 2025, allowing people with a concealed carry permit to openly carry firearms on college campuses. And still, neither a checkpoint not a metal detector in sight. They simply were not anticipating anything like this.

I have now watched that bodyguard video several times scrutinizing the hand signals. This is beyond strange, it’s concerning. I am no security expert but wouldn’t it be smart for someone to be assigned to observe the rooftops?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Well I’m a mom with kids Tyler’s age and I said yesterday that after reading those texts I knew they were fake because my kids have never once used a period (I checked before I made the claim).

I also don’t believe the JFK one bullet theory, so if that’s conspiracy minded, oh well.

Funny that you are stating an actual paranoia when my doubt is based on non-credible evidence.

If the texts are fake I'm sure his public defender will get to the bottom of it.
Anonymous
It’s like the one signal with the bodyguard closest to him was announcing the neck was all clear. This was an expert shot right to the carotid, no one survives this.
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