Missing college student in the Dominican Republic from Ashburn

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Anonymous wrote:This story is so sad. I feel like girls especially have it drilled in their head to look out for their friends and yet this sort of thing happens. I wonder if she had known the boy for a few days so had an illusion of safety and so did her friends.

I really don't like blaming the friends. She clearly wanted to stay behind with him. It was after 5am and the friends wanted to go to bed at last. If she didn't want to go with them, please tell me specifically what they should have done.

My understanding is they took her phone so find my phone would show her in the hotel room. They were doing what she wanted.

Is this understanding from anything official or simply the game of telephone (pun intended) being played in this thread?

Nothing official. More likely she didn't want her phone to get wet or sandy, or it was dying.

Right. We just know she asked her friends to take it, several possible reasons why.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m absolutely convinced the poster disputing where the young lady was drunk is family or a family friend that can’t accept some of the facts of that evening.

Or someone triggered by certain hypothetical scenarios. Yes, I agree.

We’ve been discussing facts as it relates to this particular poster. It is a fact if you spend hours drinking at a bar one’s judgement becomes impaired as they are under the influence of alcohol. Aka, drunk.

Does that video show her *drinking* for hours? Or does it show her at the bar for hours, drinking but not necessarily "excessively", and acting like she was "drunk" (your choice of word in this scenario)?

No more than it shows the young man doing something nefarious.

You’re a troll or family friend. Your statements defy logic and common sense. I hope the young man is allowed to leave the island once a reasonable level of due diligence has been completed. He is no more guilty, based on your logic, than her friends.

Having read the last few pages of this thread, see many unanswered questions. No one has said the young man should leave island nor is he no more "guilty" than her friends. Point seems to be you don't know what happened, a video may show they were drinking but not all were "drunk" and other things shouldn't be ruled out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's highly likely the poor girl drowned. You can see from the video both she and the boy are staggering as they walked. Likely it began as a hook-up, they were both drunk, they went into the water, and the power of the waves dragged them in different directions. He made it back to shore, she did not. He didn't realize she didn't make it out of the water, because he was drunk. Have any of you ever been that drunk college kid, or seen a drunk college kid? At that age kids make really dumb choices, like entering the ocean when they're so drunk they can barely walk.

Accusing the boy of foul play is misplaced.
Of course her family and friends are upset. But accusing the boy of murder without any basis is wrong.

Well i am surprised her body hasn’t washed from the shore . It’s been almost a week.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This story is so sad. I feel like girls especially have it drilled in their head to look out for their friends and yet this sort of thing happens. I wonder if she had known the boy for a few days so had an illusion of safety and so did her friends.

I really don't like blaming the friends. She clearly wanted to stay behind with him. It was after 5am and the friends wanted to go to bed at last. If she didn't want to go with them, please tell me specifically what they should have done.

My understanding is they took her phone so find my phone would show her in the hotel room. They were doing what she wanted.

Is this understanding from anything official or simply the game of telephone (pun intended) being played in this thread?

Nothing official. More likely she didn't want her phone to get wet or sandy, or it was dying.

Right. We just know she asked her friends to take it, several possible reasons why.

Young people these days do not normally make a move without their phone. Here is a quote about the phone situation from an article: "Her family says her belongings, including a phone and wallet, were left with her friends, although she’s known to always carry her phone." https://www.counton2.com/news/national-news/ap-what-to-know-about-us-student-sudiksha-konanki-who-vanished-in-dominican-republic-on-spring-break/

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it didn’t look like typical arm around a girl stuff-it was either like he was holding her up bc she was unsteady or like he was kind of clinging.

at one point she did try to separate from her and he quickly got back in firm arm stance. Again, could be because she was wobbly but I equally could have been overly handsy and bunch she was trying to tamp down in a friendly way.

Tamping down in a friendly way isn't consistent with her choosing to remain alone with him on the beach. She could easily have left with her friends. She looks happy in the video.

Yes, because young women do famously great at being assertive about boundaries and not worrying about offending people!

She chose to stay with him alone on the beach. Is there some part of that data point that is unclear to you?

It seems pp is blaming *us* because this 20 yr old college woman was not “assertive about boundaries” but apparently we over taught her not to offend drunk men on a dark path to a deserted beach at 3am.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's highly likely the poor girl drowned. You can see from the video both she and the boy are staggering as they walked. Likely it began as a hook-up, they were both drunk, they went into the water, and the power of the waves dragged them in different directions. He made it back to shore, she did not. He didn't realize she didn't make it out of the water, because he was drunk. Have any of you ever been that drunk college kid, or seen a drunk college kid? At that age kids make really dumb choices, like entering the ocean when they're so drunk they can barely walk.

Accusing the boy of foul play is misplaced.
Of course her family and friends are upset. But accusing the boy of murder without any basis is wrong.

Well i am surprised her body hasn’t washed from the shore . It’s been almost a week.

It’s like people don’t understand how tides and currents work. Why do you think they never found the airplane that crashed over the ocean all those years ago? Things don’t just nicely wash up on shore all the time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's highly likely the poor girl drowned. You can see from the video both she and the boy are staggering as they walked. Likely it began as a hook-up, they were both drunk, they went into the water, and the power of the waves dragged them in different directions. He made it back to shore, she did not. He didn't realize she didn't make it out of the water, because he was drunk. Have any of you ever been that drunk college kid, or seen a drunk college kid? At that age kids make really dumb choices, like entering the ocean when they're so drunk they can barely walk.

Accusing the boy of foul play is misplaced.
Of course her family and friends are upset. But accusing the boy of murder without any basis is wrong.

I agree. Unless something turns up about the boy's background, he should be given the benefit of the doubt. Video footage seems to confirm the basic outline of his story. We may never know exactly what happened when they were alone on the beach together. He may well have been too drunk, and it was too dark, for him to be clear about it either.

My guess is the FBI will do a complete background check, including interviewing his family, friends, and GFs. When a friend was murdered, detectives went ten+ years back into her history and interviewed many, many people she knew in an effort to glean any potentially relevant detail.

[Anonymous]

What is this about the friends taking a day trip – how would they have time for that when they didn’t go to bed till after 5 AM and reported her missing at 4 PM? Seems like a pretty quick day trip.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This story is so sad. I feel like girls especially have it drilled in their head to look out for their friends and yet this sort of thing happens. I wonder if she had known the boy for a few days so had an illusion of safety and so did her friends.

I really don't like blaming the friends. She clearly wanted to stay behind with him. It was after 5am and the friends wanted to go to bed at last. If she didn't want to go with them, please tell me specifically what they should have done.

They should have stepped in, took her by the arm and led her back to the room to sleep. I had to do this to a friend (we were in our 30's). She was drunk and some guy just "knew" he was hooking up that night. Yes, she was flirting and "all over him", but no way was that happening on "my watch". I came between them, told him to please move along because it wasn't happening tonight and took her back with me to our hotel room. Friends look out for each other. Sadly, her "friends" failed her that morning.

If her friends knew she intended to have sex with the boy, why did they not come by her room or the beach in the morning to see how it was going?

Instead, they just went on a day trip, and gave her privacy.

Ah, this one is interesting.
Do you want your friends coming by your room to see how sex with a random stranger is going?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This story is so sad. I feel like girls especially have it drilled in their head to look out for their friends and yet this sort of thing happens. I wonder if she had known the boy for a few days so had an illusion of safety and so did her friends.

I really don't like blaming the friends. She clearly wanted to stay behind with him. It was after 5am and the friends wanted to go to bed at last. If she didn't want to go with them, please tell me specifically what they should have done.

My understanding is they took her phone so find my phone would show her in the hotel room. They were doing what she wanted.

Is this understanding from anything official or simply the game of telephone (pun intended) being played in this thread?

Nothing official. More likely she didn't want her phone to get wet or sandy, or it was dying.

Right. We just know she asked her friends to take it, several possible reasons why.

Im new to the phone theories. I assumed it was on the beach chair. So the girls have it? That’s unfortunate if true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This story is so sad. I feel like girls especially have it drilled in their head to look out for their friends and yet this sort of thing happens. I wonder if she had known the boy for a few days so had an illusion of safety and so did her friends.

I really don't like blaming the friends. She clearly wanted to stay behind with him. It was after 5am and the friends wanted to go to bed at last. If she didn't want to go with them, please tell me specifically what they should have done.

They should have stepped in, took her by the arm and led her back to the room to sleep. I had to do this to a friend (we were in our 30's). She was drunk and some guy just "knew" he was hooking up that night. Yes, she was flirting and "all over him", but no way was that happening on "my watch". I came between them, told him to please move along because it wasn't happening tonight and took her back with me to our hotel room. Friends look out for each other. Sadly, her "friends" failed her that morning.

If her friends knew she intended to have sex with the boy, why did they not come by her room or the beach in the morning to see how it was going?

Instead, they just went on a day trip, and gave her privacy.

Ah, this one is interesting.
Do you want your friends coming by your room to see how sex with a random stranger is going?

Come on those women had to have been sharing one room. Do we know where the man was staying? Probably not his specific room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This story is so sad. I feel like girls especially have it drilled in their head to look out for their friends and yet this sort of thing happens. I wonder if she had known the boy for a few days so had an illusion of safety and so did her friends.

I really don't like blaming the friends. She clearly wanted to stay behind with him. It was after 5am and the friends wanted to go to bed at last. If she didn't want to go with them, please tell me specifically what they should have done.

My understanding is they took her phone so find my phone would show her in the hotel room. They were doing what she wanted.

Is this understanding from anything official or simply the game of telephone (pun intended) being played in this thread?

Nothing official. More likely she didn't want her phone to get wet or sandy, or it was dying.

Right. We just know she asked her friends to take it, several possible reasons why.

Young people these days do not normally make a move without their phone. Here is a quote about the phone situation from an article: "Her family says her belongings, including a phone and wallet, were left with her friends, although she’s known to always carry her phone." https://www.counton2.com/news/national-news/ap-what-to-know-about-us-student-sudiksha-konanki-who-vanished-in-dominican-republic-on-spring-break/

Why is this relevant in any way? Maybe it was as simple as she didn't want to carry them around. If she'd been out all night, maybe the phone was dead. Anyway, she asked them to take her stuff. So? At that hour, didn't need anything other than the key to her room. Her parents are looking for any iota of suspicious activity that might be helpful, but hard to see how this is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This story is so sad. I feel like girls especially have it drilled in their head to look out for their friends and yet this sort of thing happens. I wonder if she had known the boy for a few days so had an illusion of safety and so did her friends.

I really don't like blaming the friends. She clearly wanted to stay behind with him. It was after 5am and the friends wanted to go to bed at last. If she didn't want to go with them, please tell me specifically what they should have done.

My understanding is they took her phone so find my phone would show her in the hotel room. They were doing what she wanted.

Is this understanding from anything official or simply the game of telephone (pun intended) being played in this thread?

Nothing official. More likely she didn't want her phone to get wet or sandy, or it was dying.

Right. We just know she asked her friends to take it, several possible reasons why.

Young people these days do not normally make a move without their phone. Here is a quote about the phone situation from an article: "Her family says her belongings, including a phone and wallet, were left with her friends, although she’s known to always carry her phone." https://www.counton2.com/news/national-news/ap-what-to-know-about-us-student-sudiksha-konanki-who-vanished-in-dominican-republic-on-spring-break/

Yep, maybe the friends know why, she may have told them to take it back to room. Assumptions - bad signal phone wasn't working on beach, phone needed charging which one of her friends could do for her, as you said - would get sandy and wet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is this about the friends taking a day trip – how would they have time for that when they didn’t go to bed till after 5 AM and reported her missing at 4 PM? Seems like a pretty quick day trip.

You may be hung up on wording that was intended to be literal. Maybe "outing" would have been a more apt word? They got a few hours of sleep then went off on an outing for several hours. When they couldn't find her upon their return, then they were worried and reported it.

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Anonymous wrote:What is this about the friends taking a day trip – how would they have time for that when they didn’t go to bed till after 5 AM and reported her missing at 4 PM? Seems like a pretty quick day trip.

You may be hung up on wording that was intended to be literal. Maybe "outing" would have been a more apt word? They got a few hours of sleep then went off on an outing for several hours. When they couldn't find her upon their return, then they were worried and reported it.

*not intended