2024 US News rankings

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I suspect UVA boosters are trying to sabotage UVA for some reason. The actual graduates cannot be that obnoxious. Anyone who graduates from a decent school should not have a chip on their shoulder about it.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect UVA boosters are trying to sabotage UVA for some reason. The actual graduates cannot be that obnoxious. Anyone who graduates from a decent school should not have a chip on their shoulder about it.

Sorry your kid didn’t get into UVA!

(Ok, I just did that to apply the stereotype.)

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Anonymous wrote:Can most students graduate in 4 years from UVA? There’s no issues with getting necessary classes like at UCB or UCLA?

Yea, but US News has decided to use 6 year graduation rates.

That’s because most students at schools like UVA opt into the easier majors. The harder disciplines, such as Engineering, often take a bit longer to complete.

Why would an engineering degree take more than 4 years? It sounds like the college is failing these kids.

Engineering degrees typically require more credit hours to complete. It’s that simple.

Engineering majors at top schools should all graduate in 4yrs or less. If UVA is taking longer, then it is failing.

Then I guess MIT is failing as well. Get off your high horse!

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Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

Yep. A very triggered UVA booster!

i’d say both sides are unhinged.

Both sides of what?

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Anonymous wrote:Can most students graduate in 4 years from UVA? There’s no issues with getting necessary classes like at UCB or UCLA?

Yea, but US News has decided to use 6 year graduation rates.

That’s because most students at schools like UVA opt into the easier majors. The harder disciplines, such as Engineering, often take a bit longer to complete.

Why would an engineering degree take more than 4 years? It sounds like the college is failing these kids.

Engineering degrees typically require more credit hours to complete. It’s that simple.

and of course, they the courses tend to be harder.

I went to Hopkins and the engineering majors all managed to graduate on time. This is an issue only where class availability is limited, and definitely is a relevant consideration when choosing a school.

That’s amusing since JHU has an overall 87% 4 year graduation rate. Hyperbole will get you in trouble every time. By the way, Hopkins has an excellent 4 year graduation rate so this is by no means a diss to the institution.

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Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, UVA funnels in dozens of geniuses from TJ every year, and all of those kids are more capable than any kid at Duke.

PP really thinks that TJ is the only school in this country with STEM geniuses, with its whopping one Regeneron finalist in the last three years!

TJ still gets the best talent of any high school and they flock to UVA. If Duke was better why wouldn't more kids from TJ go to Duke?

Your first statement is correct. However, TJ students do not flock to UVA because UVA has a weak STEM programs. In fact, when my kid was applying to colleges from TJ, very few top students would even bother applying to UVA and mostly average and below average kids applied. TJ students would rather attend VT or UMD to major in STEM than attend UVA and try to do CS or Engineering.

TJ kids attending UVA halved in the past 6-7 years and doubled to UMD.

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TJ sent as many students to William & Mary as UMD last year, which isn’t exactly known for STEM, and it also sent twice as many to UVA as Tech. UMD also offers merit aid, which UVA does not.

However, W&M is known for in-state tuitions. In addition, while your average TJ kids are merely embarrassed to attend UVA, they wouldn't be caught dead attending VT.

You are so transparently bitter. There are MANY TJ grads at VT. You seem absolutely clueless.
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There are plenty of TJ bottom dwellers attending VT.

Um, I’m a TJ parent and can see right through you. Plenty of TJ’s top kids are at VT. Just not yours.

DP: I'm pretty sure a parent isn't calling other kids "bottom dwellers" -- sounds like a HS troll.

Doubtful - UVA parents are even worse than the students.

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Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

To be clear, most of the UVA mega threads are started by (the?) UVA basher(s). There is at least one poster on here who is fixated on rankings and putting down UVA. He attended Rice (which he constantly promotes) and was rejected by UVA and thinks that more STEM-focused schools should rank higher. He’s constantly promoting Cornell, MIT, Caltech, Stanford, UC-Berkeley and UM.

Also, some of what appears to be initial UVA support is a straw-man post by the basher so he can claim UVA boosterism and start his put downs. These initial posts likely come from the same poster because the original and bashing posts quickly follow each other. Also, the first post that supports UVA frequently comes early in the thread, which, again, is meant to generate antagonism toward UVA (they’re obnoxious).

Yes, UVA is a great school and elite, but much of the nuttiness generated around it is trolling.

Just when you thought UVA boosters couldn't get any crazier.

PSA: there are many people posting on this forum.

Don't kid yourself, the majority of people here with UVA equities could care less. There are only a couple of people going back and forth and yes, the basher is usally the culprit.

This particular thread could have gone forever. It's a fun and interesting topic.

But the UVA people are nuts. They hijack everything.

I don't live in VA. I don't care. But goodness, you UVA people are the most insecure, desperate, thirsty people I've ever encountered. You are not doing your school any favors.

THIS ^^. I can't even focus on one thread topic because the UVA boosters are incessantly disrupting the conversation with their bragging. It's incredibly off-putting.
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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary sunk - not surprising.

Why did it sink and why is it not surprising? It still seems like you need a very high GPA to get in>

They have relatively few lower income students (Pell grant recipients) and are a smaller school so fewer research dollars in comparison with the many large universities. It still attracts top students--with very high GPA and high test scores, has excellent undergraduate teaching and top-notch post-graduation outcomes. The rankings are dumb.

It is not nearly as appealing to most students as other universities. That is a fact.
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My question is: where are the Northeastern boosters?? I haven't heard a peep from them since these rankings came out. I have no idea what the school used to be ranked - did it fall?

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Anonymous wrote:My question is: where are the Northeastern boosters?? I haven't heard a peep from them since these rankings came out. I have no idea what the school used to be ranked - did it fall?

It did. Want to say fell 8 places and out of top 50.

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Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

To be clear, most of the UVA mega threads are started by (the?) UVA basher(s). There is at least one poster on here who is fixated on rankings and putting down UVA. He attended Rice (which he constantly promotes) and was rejected by UVA and thinks that more STEM-focused schools should rank higher. He’s constantly promoting Cornell, MIT, Caltech, Stanford, UC-Berkeley and UM.

Also, some of what appears to be initial UVA support is a straw-man post by the basher so he can claim UVA boosterism and start his put downs. These initial posts likely come from the same poster because the original and bashing posts quickly follow each other. Also, the first post that supports UVA frequently comes early in the thread, which, again, is meant to generate antagonism toward UVA (they’re obnoxious).

Yes, UVA is a great school and elite, but much of the nuttiness generated around it is trolling.

Just when you thought UVA boosters couldn't get any crazier.

PSA: there are many people posting on this forum.

Don't kid yourself, the majority of people here with UVA equities could care less. There are only a couple of people going back and forth and yes, the basher is usally the culprit.

This particular thread could have gone forever. It's a fun and interesting topic.

But the UVA people are nuts. They hijack everything.

I don't live in VA. I don't care. But goodness, you UVA people are the most insecure, desperate, thirsty people I've ever encountered. You are not doing your school any favors.

Couldn't agree more. I used to like UVA but the crazy posters on this site, year after year, who hijack every thread have made me hate that school!

+1, especially that poster who kept insisting UVA is the best school in the South and that Duke is just a basketball school. If they're going to boost UVA, they should at least make it reasonable. No one thinks UVA is above the top privates in the South, let alone DUKE.

Has it ever occurred to you that all those “uva boosters” are just trolls?

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago's student paper mentioned how they capped class sizes in 2008 to improve their ranking It was removed as part of the ranking formula this year and Chicago is no longer T10 in any ranking:
"The decision to forgo class size is especially impactful to the University’s ranking. Core classes have long been capped at 19 students, the number U.S. News considered to be a “small class.” In 2008, then-Dean of College Enrollment Michael Benkhe cited the policy as an example of how administrators had looked to improve the University’s position in rankings."
https://chicagomaroon.com/39840/news/uchicago-drops-to-no-12-in-u-s-news-rankings/

Wow, interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

To be clear, most of the UVA mega threads are started by (the?) UVA basher(s). There is at least one poster on here who is fixated on rankings and putting down UVA. He attended Rice (which he constantly promotes) and was rejected by UVA and thinks that more STEM-focused schools should rank higher. He’s constantly promoting Cornell, MIT, Caltech, Stanford, UC-Berkeley and UM.

Also, some of what appears to be initial UVA support is a straw-man post by the basher so he can claim UVA boosterism and start his put downs. These initial posts likely come from the same poster because the original and bashing posts quickly follow each other. Also, the first post that supports UVA frequently comes early in the thread, which, again, is meant to generate antagonism toward UVA (they’re obnoxious).

Yes, UVA is a great school and elite, but much of the nuttiness generated around it is trolling.

Just when you thought UVA boosters couldn't get any crazier.

PSA: there are many people posting on this forum.

Don't kid yourself, the majority of people here with UVA equities could care less. There are only a couple of people going back and forth and yes, the basher is usally the culprit.

This particular thread could have gone forever. It's a fun and interesting topic.

But the UVA people are nuts. They hijack everything.

I don't live in VA. I don't care. But goodness, you UVA people are the most insecure, desperate, thirsty people I've ever encountered. You are not doing your school any favors.

Couldn't agree more. I used to like UVA but the crazy posters on this site, year after year, who hijack every thread have made me hate that school!

+1, especially that poster who kept insisting UVA is the best school in the South and that Duke is just a basketball school. If they're going to boost UVA, they should at least make it reasonable. No one thinks UVA is above the top privates in the South, let alone DUKE.

Has it ever occurred to you that all those “uva boosters” are just trolls?

Some of them probably are - but many of them are very recognizable as they've said exactly the same idiocy for years.

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Anonymous wrote:Can most students graduate in 4 years from UVA? There’s no issues with getting necessary classes like at UCB or UCLA?

Yea, but US News has decided to use 6 year graduation rates.

That’s because most students at schools like UVA opt into the easier majors. The harder disciplines, such as Engineering, often take a bit longer to complete.

Why would an engineering degree take more than 4 years? It sounds like the college is failing these kids.

Engineering degrees typically require more credit hours to complete. It’s that simple.

Engineering majors at top schools should all graduate in 4yrs or less. If UVA is taking longer, then it is failing.

Then I guess MIT is failing as well. Get off your high horse!

Nope, MIT is doing just fine.

It also doesn’t belong in the same conversation as UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:Can most students graduate in 4 years from UVA? There’s no issues with getting necessary classes like at UCB or UCLA?

Yea, but US News has decided to use 6 year graduation rates.

That’s because most students at schools like UVA opt into the easier majors. The harder disciplines, such as Engineering, often take a bit longer to complete.

Why would an engineering degree take more than 4 years? It sounds like the college is failing these kids.

Engineering degrees typically require more credit hours to complete. It’s that simple.

and of course, they the courses tend to be harder.

I went to Hopkins and the engineering majors all managed to graduate on time. This is an issue only where class availability is limited, and definitely is a relevant consideration when choosing a school.

That’s amusing since JHU has an overall 87% 4 year graduation rate. Hyperbole will get you in trouble every time. By the way, Hopkins has an excellent 4 year graduation rate so this is by no means a diss to the institution.

The six year rate is 93 percent so that is about 5 percent of the class that needs extra time. Who know what their major is? As I said, when I was there all my friends who were engineering majors graduated on time, a few of my friends who played lacrosse and other sports did not, but they weren’t engineering majors.

In contrast, at a school like UCLA, where engineering is an impacted major, 76 percent of thr class graduates in 4 years.