Josh Duggar arrested and in federal custody

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Jill's husband is talking about how toxic Jim Bob and Michelle are. TLC was complicit in rebranding them. We should boycott TLC.

https://www.aol.com/jill-duggars-husband-slams-duggar-191758654.html

He is spilling the beans. I am sure the monetary aspect and the abuse of his wife by Josh is difficult to swallow.



I’d happily boycott TLC but it would be an empty gesture for me. I’ve thought they and their shows have been trash since forever, so I don’t watch.
Anonymous
I don't understand how Jill and Derick make money.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Organized religion is a safe haven for the depraved. He's a pos.

When you liken the cult that the Duggars are in to “organized religion,” you’re really not making a point.


I'm not the PP but for example, the Catholic church has been in the news for years for shielding pedophiles.
Anonymous
Look at their faces. Who does not think that there was some serious girl abuse going on in that household? I just don't think that Josh is the sick pervert. He is grinning because he has something over daddy-o.

Duggar's emphasis was never on looking after the kids (the older girls were playing nanny) but basically fuxing like bunnies.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Look at their faces. Who does not think that there was some serious girl abuse going on in that household? I just don't think that Josh is the sick pervert. He is grinning because he has something over daddy-o.

Duggar's emphasis was never on looking after the kids (the older girls were playing nanny) but basically fuxing like bunnies.



You do not actually have to do the deed that often if you are fertile and not using any birth control. Much to my husband's dismay, I got pregnant on the first try with each of my (three) children.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Organized religion is a safe haven for the depraved. He's a pos.

When you liken the cult that the Duggars are in to “organized religion,” you’re really not making a point.


Sadly, yes. She is making a point. And I say this as a minister. Organized religion often brings the most vile people into their flocks. Promises of absolution, forgiveness, grace, etc..... attract fuked up people. That’s why we have so many priests who are predators. It was their way of trying to suppress sick urges. It never works.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Organized religion is a safe haven for the depraved. He's a pos.

When you liken the cult that the Duggars are in to “organized religion,” you’re really not making a point.


Sadly, yes. She is making a point. And I say this as a minister. Organized religion often brings the most vile people into their flocks. Promises of absolution, forgiveness, grace, etc..... attract fuked up people. That’s why we have so many priests who are predators. It was their way of trying to suppress sick urges. It never works.


Aren’t there just as many secular people who are depraved sickos too? Epstein comes to mind but so many others.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://youtu.be/MwUYONHoREI

Anna's interview after the last scandal.


I found this video really interesting. There was something obviously unusual in her speech: How she was speaking and her unusual facial expressions; A disconnect of sorts. But then when I watched it with no sound I saw that her fleeting expressions look like anger (especially when frame is frozen. She is making a face in several moments with her eyes and furrowed forehead like "Are you fu@#king kidding me?"). She was angry, of course, but her upbringing does not allow it so you get this tentative, pseudo passive voice with a face that is expressing much pain and anger. What a terrible and deeply unhealthy way to live. I hope she can find a way out...that would be a real miracle.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Maybe Anna and the kids can just move in with Jim Bob and Michelle.


It was my understanding that they already lived in a renovated building behind the main house. The difference now is that Josh cannot live there with them.
Anonymous
If you read some of the recaps of the zoom hearing it will turn your stomach. The hearing was not to be "memorialized" (the court's word) so there isn't a word for word recap but there is the statement that the lead investigator (who has been doing this for 11 years) said this case was in the top 5 in terms of how graphic and horrific the downloads were. Sickening.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://youtu.be/MwUYONHoREI

Anna's interview after the last scandal.


I found this video really interesting. There was something obviously unusual in her speech: How she was speaking and her unusual facial expressions; A disconnect of sorts. But then when I watched it with no sound I saw that her fleeting expressions look like anger (especially when frame is frozen. She is making a face in several moments with her eyes and furrowed forehead like "Are you fu@#king kidding me?"). She was angry, of course, but her upbringing does not allow it so you get this tentative, pseudo passive voice with a face that is expressing much pain and anger. What a terrible and deeply unhealthy way to live. I hope she can find a way out...that would be a real miracle.


Fascinating analysis! You should write a paper about this. Also, have you considered going into linguistics? This is great stuff.
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Anonymous wrote:Also the fact Anna had that software on his computer tells me she might have a slight tiny bit of a backbone - I’m slightly more hopeful she’s going to dump his a@& take the kids and move somewhere away from this insanity


I doubt she put that software on. Even if she did, Josh's childhood friend said he had those crappy software apps on his computers and was able to get around them no issue.

Anna knew he had 1)a problem with porn 2) had molested children/committed incest 3) a failed courtship because this came to light 4) other people in their community constantly keeping their kids away from Josh because they thought he was a predator.

Homegirl says she knew all the above and still went ahead and married him. She literally, JOYFULLY!! signed up for it. No way she leaves his ass. Any of the above would have been a dealbreaker years ago. It wasn't for her then and it won't be now.


Yep. Anna is a grown woman who is choosing to stay with a known sexual abuser of children. I don’t know why so many of you insist on defending her. She is putting her children at risk.


I defend her because I understand what it’s like to grow up in a fundamentalist church and where she is in and grew up in is 10 times worse than what I grew up in. This is not your regular variety Christianity or even strict Christianity. What she is in, grew up in, and is surrounded by, is a cult and cult members. As a society we throw the term brainwashed around but that is exactly what she is in the legitimate meaning. She is in a cult and when you start reading up on what it takes to a) understand you’re in a cult and 2) leave a cult are two enormous mental and spiritual hurdles that she has to jump through.

We know that she’s wrong, we know that she can leave but that would require her questioning the entire foundation of who she is and what she has grown up in, the literal spiritual lives of her and her children. She doesn’t have a support system that can enable her to leave. She depends wholy on Josh. This is why I defend her and I pray that people step up in her life to help her leave the marriage, if not the cult.



Yes, she is in a cult but people do leave. There are many people who can and do find a way out. She however, has deficits that make that harder. She is willfully remaining ignorant. She chooses not to learn and whether we call it "stubborness" or poor reality testing or a weak ego that would crumble if she faced the truth, she isimited and it is profoundly sad. I feel rage toward her, I really do and I'm sure I am not the only one. She is doing the least courageous thing by staying. She is like one of those mothers of incest survivors who do not believe the child but will side with the psychopathic spouse because they are desperate for the connection and cannot bear being alone. They do not have the core psychological maturity and ego strength you see in a healthy person. She is sick in her own way too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://youtu.be/MwUYONHoREI

Anna's interview after the last scandal.


I found this video really interesting. There was something obviously unusual in her speech: How she was speaking and her unusual facial expressions; A disconnect of sorts. But then when I watched it with no sound I saw that her fleeting expressions look like anger (especially when frame is frozen. She is making a face in several moments with her eyes and furrowed forehead like "Are you fu@#king kidding me?"). She was angry, of course, but her upbringing does not allow it so you get this tentative, pseudo passive voice with a face that is expressing much pain and anger. What a terrible and deeply unhealthy way to live. I hope she can find a way out...that would be a real miracle.


Fascinating analysis! You should write a paper about this. Also, have you considered going into linguistics? This is great stuff.


Thank you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This has some excerpts from Jinger's new book that was released this week. It's just so sad that the "living nightmare" she refers to isn't about what Josh did but rather the fact that the incident was made public. On the one hand, I completely understand how she could feel the publicity victimized her again. On the other hand, she says "One of my siblings had made some sinful choices, but it had all been years ago. It had been awful, but we had dealt with it as a family." That's very much on message for the family.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jinger-duggar-recounts-living-nightmare-221400806.html


Whenever someone says this, with regards to any family situation, you know it really means: "someone decided the the way to frame things, and we didn't have the power/agency to suggest otherwise."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jill's husband is talking about how toxic Jim Bob and Michelle are. TLC was complicit in rebranding them. We should boycott TLC.

https://www.aol.com/jill-duggars-husband-slams-duggar-191758654.html

He is spilling the beans. I am sure the monetary aspect and the abuse of his wife by Josh is difficult to swallow.



I’d happily boycott TLC but it would be an empty gesture for me. I’ve thought they and their shows have been trash since forever, so I don’t watch.

Me too. I used to watch the original show for the snark, but stopped way back when the first Josh scandal came out. And I can’t remember the last other thing I watched on TLC - maybe What Not To Wear? That was great back in the day. Now all they do is exploit freaks.
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