Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread

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Anonymous wrote: Tonight‘s interview was the nail in the coffin for me. If you want to give him the benefit of the doubt that he did not harrass/abuse, was virginal, did not drink to blackout excess, was just joking around about the stuff in the yearbook and in his fraternity, go ahead. But to deny knowledge of others doing such things - that’s one lie too many.

His wife said that she’s known him for 18 years and that it’s “hard to believe.” Pretty tepid. Of course this happened many years before they met. She was seven. (The 10 year age difference between them is especially striking when you think about high schools of the early 80s versus the early 90s.)

His “Ask the moms” line and the multiple awkward references to the 65 women who stood up for him at a “moment’s notice” (including Renate) - yikes. He comes off as both having developed this line of defense for years and yet not being able to deliver it at the moment of truth.

But much of this country, and moreso the vast majority of those in power in Republican Washington, are so not woke, who knows... he’ll probably still be confirmed by weeks end.

She appeared nervous and near tears, as would anyone who loves her husband and can't believe the horrible accusations. When she said "hard to believe," I think she meant all the accusations and how he's being treated are hard to believe. Didn't seem tepid to me. She's not an actress or news anchor.

Ummmm. No. It was hard for her to believe that 1) she is a good person, mother and wife 2) she did all the right things and 3) now everyone know what a skeevy guy her husband really is. She just cannot believe that this is the payback he gives her for all that she has contributed to their family.

yes, that is what I think too. she is going to say whatever now, while there is a chance he will be confirmed. But she did everything right and now look at him? he is no george bush.

Well, yeah, he didn’t start senseless wars or run the economy into the ground.

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Anonymous wrote:Watched part of the interview. She still loves him (she is leaning towards him) but doesn’t trust him (very little hand holding or touching).

I went to high school in this area. Georgetown prep was the school you didn’t date boys from- they did whatever they want with absolutely no regrets. They boasted about this stuff.

Kinda like the Renate alumni: https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/24/politics/new-york-times-kavanaugh-renate-high-school-yearbook/index.html

USA Today is now reporting a third accuser.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/24/brett-kavanaugh-avenatti-third-accuser-emerge-48-hours/1416699002/

The Renate thing ... While I didn't think highly of Kavanaugh before, that 1000% conveyed the gross, misogynistic, and abusive mindset of Kavanuagh and his circle.

You don't shed that mindset; it's who you are. And no way, that is a mindset that belongs on the SCOTUS - or anywhere in public service (or just anywhere). Disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:So I take it the Fox interview didn’t change any of our minds (in either direction)?

I’ve been anti-Brett the whole way but I I’m a little less so after watching.

I look forward to hearing Dr. Ford on Thursday.

The opposite. I believe Professor Ford but very once in a while have some doubts. But seeing Kavanaugh lying his way through an interview, he definitely did all that he was accused of.

Where are you getting that he "lied his way through" the interview? It really doesn't matter what he said - you presume guilt no matter what.

Yes, I can't imagine he's going to be coaching his daughters' teams anymore, that is for sure. I think the longer they stick this out the more chances that he will get impeached too. You can't have this kind of background and be a judge. Maybe something else, but not a judge.

Depends on whether he is a good coach. If you have any experience watching your kids play against BS, you know that they will do anything including cheat for a win. Even at U10 girls soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh’s roommate from Yale has gone on the record saying that he believes the second accuser.
https://abc7news.com/amp/politics/brett-kavanaughs-yale-roommate-says-he-believes-second-accuser/4330055/

Yup. These women aren’t stormy Daniels. They’re highly educated respected professionals.[/quote

His roommate was a man.

What does this mean, PP? I find these women to be credible but I find stormy to be really credible as well. Your post is so ironic, given the point you are trying to make. So only those with jobs you deem respectable are to be believed?

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Granted I didn't watch the interview, but it's kinda shitty that he made her appear on national television, judging from people's observations here. It doesn't sound like she is a Kellyanne Conway type, who relishes media appearances.

This reminds me of the Good Wife. But, much, much worse.

I don't feel bad for her-- she had to know what she was marrying. But I do feel terrible for their daughters.

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Those Renate references...slimeballs all!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, but the NYTimes digging through the guy’s yearbook in search of “misogynist” attitudes is getting a bit silly and will provoke a backlash in his favor.

You clearly haven't seen his yearbook page.

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Anonymous wrote:Justices serve during “good behavior,” according to the Constitution. If he is confirmed, I doubt he will be impeached over alleged bad behavior from many years ago. It would have to be something that happens after he is confirmed, or something *really* bad from the past with clear, indisputable evidence.

Lying about issues during the confirmation process is impeachable. That wasn't "a long time ago" - it is 2018 activities that would be impeachable.

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Anonymous wrote:Granted I didn't watch the interview, but it's kinda shitty that he made her appear on national television, judging from people's observations here. It doesn't sound like she is a Kellyanne Conway type, who relishes media appearances.

This reminds me of the Good Wife. But, much, much worse.

I don't feel bad for her-- she had to know what she was marrying. But I do feel terrible for their daughters.

Meh. Not necessarily. Guys like Kavanaugh and his crew know how to be charming, articulate, and put on a good show - it's no doubt part of what was stressed at Georgetown Prep. They know how to keep their hijinks private and in their circle and they crush anyone who dares violate that code.

It's entirely possible, that Mrs. Kavanaugh really didn't know who she was marrying. No doubt Brett was a charming and dashing beau who seemed to be going places. He kept his past behavior private - as did everyone him. I do feel sorry for her and for their daughters.

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Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh’s roommate from Yale has gone on the record saying that he believes the second accuser.
https://abc7news.com/amp/politics/brett-kavanaughs-yale-roommate-says-he-believes-second-accuser/4330055/

Yup. These women aren’t stormy Daniels. They’re highly educated respected professionals.[/quote

His roommate was a man.

What does this mean, PP? I find these women to be credible but I find stormy to be really credible as well. Your post is so ironic, given the point you are trying to make. So only those with jobs you deem respectable are to be believed?

It has a lot to do with respect. If you were listening to opposing testimonies, you wouldn't think that, for example, a nurse has more credibility than some guy from the porn industry? I would.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, but the NYTimes digging through the guy’s yearbook in search of “misogynist” attitudes is getting a bit silly and will provoke a backlash in his favor.

You clearly haven't seen his yearbook page.

Yeah, that's the thing about that yearbook. It's gross and obvious. Where were the administrators at Georgetown Prep during this time? It makes me wonder what the culture was in the administration of that school.

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Anonymous wrote:This story about the woman Kavanaugh and his buddies slut-shaming a woman in their HS yearbook is disgusting. And it also shows that Kavanaugh is willing to lie about little things - like why he put her name on his yearbook memories page - which means he's willing to lie about the big things. It also shows all that claptrap about always respecting women in the interview tonight was BS.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/24/business/brett-kavanaugh-yearbook-renate.html

I wanted to support President Trump's nominee but this Renate story combined with the interview tonight make me think he's a liar. I sympathize with the girl named in the yearbook.

When I was in 11th grade at a coed Catholic school I gave a ride home to a freshman after a club meeting. Yearbook, newspaper, drama, Children of Mary: I don't recall which club. His nickname was J.D. and if I had my yearbook I'd give his last name. He told other boys in the freshman class that I had sex with him on the hood of my red VW. In November. He was new that year and his parents were divorced and he lived in a crappy house. I did him a favor giving him a ride. Guys told me about it pretty quickly but it was devastating. This yearbook story completely reminded me of it. I retained my reputation because his story was so stupid and he was so pathetic. But it hurt.

I though Kavanaugh was lying on FOX. His wife was giving him the side eye the whole time. It was a terrible camera set up. It seemed they were trying to set her up. He didn't let his wife answer a question either. Can't they find a judge who is not so skeevy?

So, you want Kavanaugh to be Borked because a high school boy made up a story about sleeping with you?

This makes sense.

You want a Supreme Court Justice that is clearly lying about his past during his confirmation hearings. That makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Granted I didn't watch the interview, but it's kinda shitty that he made her appear on national television, judging from people's observations here. It doesn't sound like she is a Kellyanne Conway type, who relishes media appearances.

This reminds me of the Good Wife. But, much, much worse.

I don't feel bad for her-- she had to know what she was marrying. But I do feel terrible for their daughters.

This forum is very one-sided politically.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find this Avenatti guy to be a total sleaze?

Yes. But what has been wrong about? Nothing.

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Anonymous wrote: Tonight‘s interview was the nail in the coffin for me. If you want to give him the benefit of the doubt that he did not harrass/abuse, was virginal, did not drink to blackout excess, was just joking around about the stuff in the yearbook and in his fraternity, go ahead. But to deny knowledge of others doing such things - that’s one lie too many.

His wife said that she’s known him for 18 years and that it’s “hard to believe.” Pretty tepid. Of course this happened many years before they met. She was seven. (The 10 year age difference between them is especially striking when you think about high schools of the early 80s versus the early 90s.)

His “Ask the moms” line and the multiple awkward references to the 65 women who stood up for him at a “moment’s notice” (including Renate) - yikes. He comes off as both having developed this line of defense for years and yet not being able to deliver it at the moment of truth.

But much of this country, and moreso the vast majority of those in power in Republican Washington, are so not woke, who knows... he’ll probably still be confirmed by weeks end.

She appeared nervous and near tears, as would anyone who loves her husband and can't believe the horrible accusations. When she said "hard to believe," I think she meant all the accusations and how he's being treated are hard to believe. Didn't seem tepid to me. She's not an actress or news anchor.

Ummmm. No. It was hard for her to believe that 1) she is a good person, mother and wife 2) she did all the right things and 3) now everyone know what a skeevy guy her husband really is. She just cannot believe that this is the payback he gives her for all that she has contributed to their family.

That's not what everyone is thinking.