Feedback on Next Level Lacrosse?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NL 2023 Blue team has 29 players on the roster. Can anyone say MONEY GRAB!

Money grab my asshole. If that was the case then they would make another team. Next Level would be able to add another 15 players to the B team roster if they were super concerned about money.

You are clearly uneducated on how High School Club Lacrosse works. Everyone keeps a large roster in the Sophmore+ years because they want to get there players recruited. It’s a recruiting tactic, not money grab.

Next Level 2026, for example, only has 19 players.

You simply do not know how college recruiting works.

Maybe join the Madlax 2026 with 35+ players?

Dear BlackWolf/DCE owner (aka the registered pedophile/ one who murdered someone),

How is a 26 man roster a money grab? Considering that 2 of those 26 go to boarding schools.

18-20 kids play in a select game my friend. So they have 5 extra kids in case of injuries, chance for a player to move up...

A money grab would be the Kid assaulting/ bully owner of MadLax (Cabell Maddux’s 40 man roster on the 2023 team.

How does an unusually large roster (29 players) at the sophomore year help players to get recruited?

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It doesn't. Somebody just wants to believe her little Spartan is Ivy bound because he's on the team, and not just $$ for the owners.

It should not require this much debate to determine whether a 29 man roster is designed more to help the owners or to help the kids. So moving on to a new topic, I just noticed the parenthetical about the Blackwolf/DCE owner, and the reference to “registered pedophile/one who murdered someone.” I know the Blackwolf pedophile story so no need to rehash that one. But I’ve been reading this board a long time, and murder, that is a new one. can the poster elaborate on what he/she is talking about?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NL 2023 Blue team has 29 players on the roster. Can anyone say MONEY GRAB!

Money grab my asshole. If that was the case then they would make another team. Next Level would be able to add another 15 players to the B team roster if they were super concerned about money.

You are clearly uneducated on how High School Club Lacrosse works. Everyone keeps a large roster in the Sophmore+ years because they want to get there players recruited. It’s a recruiting tactic, not money grab.

Next Level 2026, for example, only has 19 players.

You simply do not know how college recruiting works.

Maybe join the Madlax 2026 with 35+ players?

Dear BlackWolf/DCE owner (aka the registered pedophile/ one who murdered someone),

How is a 26 man roster a money grab? Considering that 2 of those 26 go to boarding schools.

18-20 kids play in a select game my friend. So they have 5 extra kids in case of injuries, chance for a player to move up...

A money grab would be the Kid assaulting/ bully owner of MadLax (Cabell Maddux’s 40 man roster on the 2023 team.

How does an unusually large roster (29 players) at the sophomore year help players to get recruited?

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It doesn't. Somebody just wants to believe her little Spartan is Ivy bound because he's on the team, and not just $$ for the owners.

It should not require this much debate to determine whether a 29 man roster is designed more to help the owners or to help the kids. So moving on to a new topic, I just noticed the parenthetical about the Blackwolf/DCE owner, and the reference to “registered pedophile/one who murdered someone.” I know the Blackwolf pedophile story so no need to rehash that one. But I’ve been reading this board a long time, and murder, that is a new one. can the poster elaborate on what he/she is talking about?

Personally I would like to hear both stories.

[Anonymous]

The first item is old news and you can google the BW's owners name. But I have never heard of any murders in the travel lacrosse world. Maybe the poster just slipped that in to see if anybody was paying attention.

[Anonymous]

I could be wrong, but I think COVID is the cause of most clubs increasing roster sizes for this year.
A.) Most teams aren't cutting kids in COVID year.
B.) During COVID, most teams that had rosters of 20 saw their numbers significantly dip down and had to play shorthanded over the summer, so if/when that happens again bigger teams will be better prepared to play or practice through it.
C.) If a team has 30 talented kids it can get a high-level scrimmage in practice every week and is less reliant on play-days etc. to get competitive games in.
But yes, bigger rosters have drawbacks and it means less playing time for everyone, especially kids lower down the depth chart. And that isn't good at younger ages. Kids need to play in games to love the sport and want to continue.
Practices are more important to development than games. If you have 3 great coaches, 25 players is manageable, as long as practices are organized, fast-paced, competitive, and everyone gets a lot of reps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I could be wrong, but I think COVID is the cause of most clubs increasing roster sizes for this year.
A.) Most teams aren't cutting kids in COVID year.
B.) During COVID, most teams that had rosters of 20 saw their numbers significantly dip down and had to play shorthanded over the summer, so if/when that happens again bigger teams will be better prepared to play or practice through it.
C.) If a team has 30 talented kids it can get a high-level scrimmage in practice every week and is less reliant on play-days etc. to get competitive games in.
But yes, bigger rosters have drawbacks and it means less playing time for everyone, especially kids lower down the depth chart. And that isn't good at younger ages. Kids need to play in games to love the sport and want to continue.
Practices are more important to development than games. If you have 3 great coaches, 25 players is manageable, as long as practices are organized, fast-paced, competitive, and everyone gets a lot of reps.

I disagree. COVID or not, if kids are on a team, they should get reasonable amounts of game time, and if they do not, shame on their parents for sticking around. If your son is on a 25 player roster but is not in the top 18-19, you are wasting your money and more importantly you are wasting his childhood. He only gets to be eleven once. Go find a team where he will play enough in games and tournaments that he is wiped when he gets into the car to go home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NL 2023 Blue team has 29 players on the roster. Can anyone say MONEY GRAB!

Money grab my asshole. If that was the case then they would make another team. Next Level would be able to add another 15 players to the B team roster if they were super concerned about money.

You are clearly uneducated on how High School Club Lacrosse works. Everyone keeps a large roster in the Sophmore+ years because they want to get there players recruited. It’s a recruiting tactic, not money grab.

Next Level 2026, for example, only has 19 players.

You simply do not know how college recruiting works.

Maybe join the Madlax 2026 with 35+ players?

Dear BlackWolf/DCE owner (aka the registered pedophile/ one who murdered someone),

How is a 26 man roster a money grab? Considering that 2 of those 26 go to boarding schools.

18-20 kids play in a select game my friend. So they have 5 extra kids in case of injuries, chance for a player to move up...

A money grab would be the Kid assaulting/ bully owner of MadLax (Cabell Maddux’s 40 man roster on the 2023 team.

How does an unusually large roster (29 players) at the sophomore year help players to get recruited?

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It doesn't. Somebody just wants to believe her little Spartan is Ivy bound because he's on the team, and not just $$ for the owners.

It should not require this much debate to determine whether a 29 man roster is designed more to help the owners or to help the kids. So moving on to a new topic, I just noticed the parenthetical about the Blackwolf/DCE owner, and the reference to “registered pedophile/one who murdered someone.” I know the Blackwolf pedophile story so no need to rehash that one. But I’ve been reading this board a long time, and murder, that is a new one. can the poster elaborate on what he/she is talking about?

Sure. Read the article below. Hayes coached for BLC for years, and helped run DCE. He kidnapped kids and murdered their parents.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox5dc.com/news/former-montgomery-county-lacrosse-coach-facing-attempted-murder-and-kidnapping-charges.amp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I could be wrong, but I think COVID is the cause of most clubs increasing roster sizes for this year.
A.) Most teams aren't cutting kids in COVID year.
B.) During COVID, most teams that had rosters of 20 saw their numbers significantly dip down and had to play shorthanded over the summer, so if/when that happens again bigger teams will be better prepared to play or practice through it.
C.) If a team has 30 talented kids it can get a high-level scrimmage in practice every week and is less reliant on play-days etc. to get competitive games in.
But yes, bigger rosters have drawbacks and it means less playing time for everyone, especially kids lower down the depth chart. And that isn't good at younger ages. Kids need to play in games to love the sport and want to continue.
Practices are more important to development than games. If you have 3 great coaches, 25 players is manageable, as long as practices are organized, fast-paced, competitive, and everyone gets a lot of reps.

I disagree. COVID or not, if kids are on a team, they should get reasonable amounts of game time, and if they do not, shame on their parents for sticking around. If your son is on a 25 player roster but is not in the top 18-19, you are wasting your money and more importantly you are wasting his childhood. He only gets to be eleven once. Go find a team where he will play enough in games and tournaments that he is wiped when he gets into the car to go home.

That works for you, which is great. It might not work for others.

Assuming (big if) the players and parents know what the situation is with a larger than normal roster, and the impacts to playing time the player and parent/s might still choose that team because of the practice situation. Sometimes it is of benefit to practice against the best players you have available even if you won't get much playing time. Perhaps they also do some rec team where they play and star, or might even play on a B team. Whatever. If the player and parent/s go into it with clear awareness that is up to them.

And heck, if they choose to spend their money to be the 29th player on a roster because it makes them feel good... go for it.

[Anonymous]

On roster size for the younger teams, a lot can depend on the strength of the team and how deep the team goes into the roster in a typical game. So if you take some of the younger NL teams that are really strong and win most games by a number of goals regardless of who on the roster they play, the whole roster gets a good amount of playing time. If you couple that with the fact that club teams play a lot of games now even at the youth level with many clubs playing 40 games or more a year counting fall, winter, spring, and summer, the playing time of a slightly larger roster can make a lot of sense. But if you are on a team that seeks to win at the higher levels and is only competitive when they limit the roster to like the top 16 you’ll have a completely different experience. So really the context matters a lot and it is hard to tell if a roster is too large just from the raw numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On roster size for the younger teams, a lot can depend on the strength of the team and how deep the team goes into the roster in a typical game. So if you take some of the younger NL teams that are really strong and win most games by a number of goals regardless of who on the roster they play, the whole roster gets a good amount of playing time. If you couple that with the fact that club teams play a lot of games now even at the youth level with many clubs playing 40 games or more a year counting fall, winter, spring, and summer, the playing time of a slightly larger roster can make a lot of sense. But if you are on a team that seeks to win at the higher levels and is only competitive when they limit the roster to like the top 16 you’ll have a completely different experience. So really the context matters a lot and it is hard to tell if a roster is too large just from the raw numbers.

Exactly the point.

[Anonymous]

what's going on with the 26 NL team? are they just not an elite team?

[Anonymous]

Don't worry - they only care about 8th grade and up ... once they get the reclasses - the team will be fine next year. Look at their current 25s and 24s.

[Anonymous]

+1

Same can be said of the 23s and 22s

[Anonymous]

2026 has a small roster (18) and has room to add new players. First year in elite. Some bad results initially but last few weeks have played some tough teams close. Good goalie, D, groundballs and ride, not enough firepower on offense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son was at the summer camp the other week. We really liked the guys in charge, and my son learned a lot from the camp counselors. My son wants to try out for the club team. Other parents have been pushing us to the VA clubs saying they are more competitive. We are a MD family, and have a favorable impression of Next Level through the summer, but we can make the trip across the river if that's where the best teams are. So is there a measurable difference between Next Level and those VA clubs?

When this was first posted in 2018, kids were still travelling from MD across the river to play for Madlax, VLC and Blackwolf. 3 years later, it's tilting the other way. Very few Marylanders make that trip now. The real test is whether VA players will make the leap to play for Bethesda based NL. When that happens, NL will have won the DMV club game. Can't wait to say a rivedeci to the club owner douches across the river in VA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My son was at the summer camp the other week. We really liked the guys in charge, and my son learned a lot from the camp counselors. My son wants to try out for the club team. Other parents have been pushing us to the VA clubs saying they are more competitive. We are a MD family, and have a favorable impression of Next Level through the summer, but we can make the trip across the river if that's where the best teams are. So is there a measurable difference between Next Level and those VA clubs?

When this was first posted in 2018, kids were still travelling from MD across the river to play for Madlax, VLC and Blackwolf. 3 years later, it's tilting the other way. Very few Marylanders make that trip now. The real test is whether VA players will make the leap to play for Bethesda based NL. When that happens, NL will have won the DMV club game. Can't wait to say a rivedeci to the club owner douches across the river in VA.

VLC owners are not "douches".

And there are plenty of Virginia kids in DCE, so we already know that Virginia kids will cross the river to be in a lacrosse club.