School residency cheaters investigated

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:it was actually 7.5% at Duke Ellington, so the "10%" is exaggerated by 1/3

Oh, well that makes it all better then.

just more evidence of hyperbole and poor journalism, but I'd hesitate to call this "journalism"

Of course you do. Because you live in PG County and are freeloading in DC. The rest of us are ready to put you and your freeloading children in jail.

I don't want the kids in jail. They just need to leave the school if they aren't DC residents. For sure, some parents ought to go to jail for fraud and theft of services (and possibly tax fraud as well).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it was actually 7.5% at Duke Ellington, so the "10%" is exaggerated by 1/3

That's officially. How many cases of residency fraud exist under the radar at Ellington? If fraud is so high in DC schools that are mediocre at best and somewhat interchangeable, imagine what the incentives are for schools that are magnets or offer specialty programs?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it was actually 7.5% at Duke Ellington, so the "10%" is exaggerated by 1/3

Oh, well that makes it all better then.

just more evidence of hyperbole and poor journalism, but I'd hesitate to call this "journalism"

Of course you do. Because you live in PG County and are freeloading in DC. The rest of us are ready to put you and your freeloading children in jail.

PP here -- I live in DC and have deep concerns over residency fraud. I can still find this piece of work hopelessly deficient.

Of course, maybe you're a total moron

[Anonymous]

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"The D.C. government has a long track record of turning a blind eye as city money fraudulently flows to Prince George’s County, Maryland. One reason for that may be the D.C. government is controlled by Maryland residents: 16,400 of the employees who run D.C. reside in Maryland — overwhelmingly in Prince George’s County. This us compared with the 15,800 who actually live in the city that employs them, according to information the D.C. government gave TheDCNF as a result of a Freedom of Information Act request. Only 3,600 live in Virginia.

The Maryland zip code where the most city employees live has a median household income of $95,000, far higher than the median household income of D.C. residents, which is $72,000. This refutes a claim frequently repeated by city employees that they should be paid more because they can’t afford to live in D.C."

This is JAW DROPPING (if true.)

OF COURSE it's true. What's jaw-dropping is that only Republicans (Daily Caller is nothing of not Republican) will actually tell the truth. This corruption-riddled Democrat-machine town would rather live with corruption than admit to it.

Why is it jaw-dropping that municipal employees live outside the city limits? Why do you care where the bus driver, or the clerk who takes parking ticket money at city hall lives?

Can you read? What's jaw-dropping is that it takes a Republican to tell the truth. According to your logic: obviously city employees are Democrats, don't live in DC, and are incapable of truth-telling. Screw 'em.

What are you even talking about? Someone quoted the part about many municipal employees living outside DC proper. Someone else said such a thing would be jaw-dropping. My question is why is it jaw-dropping? Why do you care how many city employees live outside DC? It isn't illegal or fraudulent to live in a neighboring jurisdiction, even if you are a city employee.

It's jaw droping because out of the hundreds of places to live around DC, they're almost ALL in PG county? Why not Montgomery County, Virginia, Howard, etc. All PG? Why? Seems like a bunch of people hiring their friends for it to be that much ofr a trend.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe "The Plan" all along was for Old DC to:
1. pump up property prices
2. cash out and take their money to MD
3. take advantage of the DC city services with a much wealthier tax base
4. let crime rise
5. property prices crash as white people flee the city again
6. buy at low prices

If so, bravo. Y'all are playing the long game. We are currently at the beginnings of Stage 4.

You are assuming that "Old DC" (Black DC) owned their homes and would therefore benefit from "cashing out." That's a big leap given Black homeownership rates.

Black home ownership rates were and still are much higher in the DC metro area than pretty much anywhere else in the country. All of Petworth was built for middle class blacks. Georgetown was largely black until they got kicked out in 1940s. Blacks have a history of ownership in DC that stretches back more than 100 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And:

"The D.C. government has a long track record of turning a blind eye as city money fraudulently flows to Prince George’s County, Maryland. One reason for that may be the D.C. government is controlled by Maryland residents: 16,400 of the employees who run D.C. reside in Maryland — overwhelmingly in Prince George’s County. This us compared with the 15,800 who actually live in the city that employs them, according to information the D.C. government gave TheDCNF as a result of a Freedom of Information Act request. Only 3,600 live in Virginia.

The Maryland zip code where the most city employees live has a median household income of $95,000, far higher than the median household income of D.C. residents, which is $72,000. This refutes a claim frequently repeated by city employees that they should be paid more because they can’t afford to live in D.C."

This is JAW DROPPING (if true.)

OF COURSE it's true. What's jaw-dropping is that only Republicans (Daily Caller is nothing of not Republican) will actually tell the truth. This corruption-riddled Democrat-machine town would rather live with corruption than admit to it.

Why is it jaw-dropping that municipal employees live outside the city limits? Why do you care where the bus driver, or the clerk who takes parking ticket money at city hall lives?

Can you read? What's jaw-dropping is that it takes a Republican to tell the truth. According to your logic: obviously city employees are Democrats, don't live in DC, and are incapable of truth-telling. Screw 'em.

What are you even talking about? Someone quoted the part about many municipal employees living outside DC proper. Someone else said such a thing would be jaw-dropping. My question is why is it jaw-dropping? Why do you care how many city employees live outside DC? It isn't illegal or fraudulent to live in a neighboring jurisdiction, even if you are a city employee.

It's jaw droping because out of the hundreds of places to live around DC, they're almost ALL in PG county? Why not Montgomery County, Virginia, Howard, etc. All PG? Why? Seems like a bunch of people hiring their friends for it to be that much ofr a trend.

Why PG? Because it's right over the District line and has very cheap property prices compared to Nova and MoCo. It's also under-developed, so your money stretches even further.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And:

"The D.C. government has a long track record of turning a blind eye as city money fraudulently flows to Prince George’s County, Maryland. One reason for that may be the D.C. government is controlled by Maryland residents: 16,400 of the employees who run D.C. reside in Maryland — overwhelmingly in Prince George’s County. This us compared with the 15,800 who actually live in the city that employs them, according to information the D.C. government gave TheDCNF as a result of a Freedom of Information Act request. Only 3,600 live in Virginia.

The Maryland zip code where the most city employees live has a median household income of $95,000, far higher than the median household income of D.C. residents, which is $72,000. This refutes a claim frequently repeated by city employees that they should be paid more because they can’t afford to live in D.C."

This is JAW DROPPING (if true.)

OF COURSE it's true. What's jaw-dropping is that only Republicans (Daily Caller is nothing of not Republican) will actually tell the truth. This corruption-riddled Democrat-machine town would rather live with corruption than admit to it.

Why is it jaw-dropping that municipal employees live outside the city limits? Why do you care where the bus driver, or the clerk who takes parking ticket money at city hall lives?

Can you read? What's jaw-dropping is that it takes a Republican to tell the truth. According to your logic: obviously city employees are Democrats, don't live in DC, and are incapable of truth-telling. Screw 'em.

What are you even talking about? Someone quoted the part about many municipal employees living outside DC proper. Someone else said such a thing would be jaw-dropping. My question is why is it jaw-dropping? Why do you care how many city employees live outside DC? It isn't illegal or fraudulent to live in a neighboring jurisdiction, even if you are a city employee.

It's jaw droping because out of the hundreds of places to live around DC, they're almost ALL in PG county? Why not Montgomery County, Virginia, Howard, etc. All PG? Why? Seems like a bunch of people hiring their friends for it to be that much ofr a trend.

Shh. Sometimes when you point out the obvious, you get branded a racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe "The Plan" all along was for Old DC to:
1. pump up property prices
2. cash out and take their money to MD
3. take advantage of the DC city services with a much wealthier tax base
4. let crime rise
5. property prices crash as white people flee the city again
6. buy at low prices

If so, bravo. Y'all are playing the long game. We are currently at the beginnings of Stage 4.

Hilarious!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it was actually 7.5% at Duke Ellington, so the "10%" is exaggerated by 1/3

Oh, well that makes it all better then.

just more evidence of hyperbole and poor journalism, but I'd hesitate to call this "journalism"

Of course you do. Because you live in PG County and are freeloading in DC. The rest of us are ready to put you and your freeloading children in jail.

You are a sociopath who needs help.

And no, I am not pp. I am also not a pg county resident. I am a DC resident, unlike the writers of the DC article.

The article itself brings up very interesting points and some valid cases of fraud. However, due to its delusional math, (remember, they're calling DC "tuition" even at a charter 35k/ year) and including sentences like (paraphrase) "coincidentally that 40% is also the same number of out of state plates at select DC schools" -- a point they collected evidence for but did not actually prove previous--all of their "facts" become suspect.

You know what I would love to see? An expose about the shell company in DC giving contract addresses. Of course THAT kind of politicking isn't just limited to residents of pg county, and perhaps a reporter based in VA to dodge taxes is not the best person to cover the story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it was actually 7.5% at Duke Ellington, so the "10%" is exaggerated by 1/3

Oh, well that makes it all better then.

just more evidence of hyperbole and poor journalism, but I'd hesitate to call this "journalism"

Of course you do. Because you live in PG County and are freeloading in DC. The rest of us are ready to put you and your freeloading children in jail.

You are a sociopath who needs help.

And no, I am not pp. I am also not a pg county resident. I am a DC resident, unlike the writers of the DC article.

The article itself brings up very interesting points and some valid cases of fraud. However, due to its delusional math, (remember, they're calling DC "tuition" even at a charter 35k/ year) and including sentences like (paraphrase) "coincidentally that 40% is also the same number of out of state plates at select DC schools" -- a point they collected evidence for but did not actually prove previous--all of their "facts" become suspect.

You know what I would love to see? An expose about the shell company in DC giving contract addresses. Of course THAT kind of politicking isn't just limited to residents of pg county, and perhaps a reporter based in VA to dodge taxes is not the best person to cover the story.

It's not a secret that Carlson lives in upper NW.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it was actually 7.5% at Duke Ellington, so the "10%" is exaggerated by 1/3

Oh, well that makes it all better then.

just more evidence of hyperbole and poor journalism, but I'd hesitate to call this "journalism"

One of the installments quoted DCUM. It is not journalism.

It's also riddled with typing and grammatical errors "this US compared..."

[Anonymous]

I believe there is an issue with tips not being followed up on (as discussed earlier in this thread) as well as with the investigations conducted into the tips. I know of someone who was investigated for residency fraud and cleared the appeals process in spite of having very poor documentation. In that case, it was not a false address provided but rather an informal custody grant (ie, a letter saying that child needed to stay with grandparents for a period due to financial instability of the parents). I was floored that the case was dropped. I mention this to point out two things: (1) tips don't help if the follow-up process is flawed or deficient, and (2) it is not always residency fraud but sometimes false custody arrangements.

[Anonymous]

What I find interesting is that the DCPS Audit documents suggest that 35-40% of the time when DCPS asks for proof of residency, the parents simply pull the kids out of DCPS to avoid the fight. That pretty strongly suggests they're not DC residents. Seems like DC should be asking for proof more often.

[Anonymous]

The editing is definitely shoddy, but if this is the spotlight that's finally bright enough to force DC to do the right thing then that's wonderful. I'll take more Republicans every day of the week. We've been getting shafted because of corruption and cronyism and graft for decades.

I don't care if you work downtown. I don't care if your nana lives on the Hill. You don't. Pay taxes or get the hell out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The editing is definitely shoddy, but if this is the spotlight that's finally bright enough to force DC to do the right thing then that's wonderful. I'll take more Republicans every day of the week. We've been getting shafted because of corruption and cronyism and graft for decades.

I don't care if you work downtown. I don't care if your nana lives on the Hill. You don't. Pay taxes or get the hell out.

Doubt it. I emailed Hanseul Kang and Grosso about the series last week.

Got a very canned / 'as we told the Daily caller' ... 'we investigate leads and are committing to preventing fraud' response from Kang. Radio silence from Grosso.