Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Mayor just seemed so poorly informed at her press conference yesterday. She had the same information we did. She clearly had not been negotiating.

I just feel like if she were focused on the city and not weird environmental conferences in Dubai, she might be a bit better versed about the going ons in the city and have her thumb on some of our simmering issues.

The Mayor's office was under the impression that no one else would want a stadium and acted accordingly. Remember, the DC government thinks it holds all the cards. They threatened the federal government to send back the workers or else. We are still waiting for the or else.

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Anonymous wrote:It’ll be a good new development for 20 years and then whoever owns the teams then will blackmail public officials into financing yet another stadium.

The trend is moving away from stadiums and real estate developments in big cities. With hybrid work here to stay, the only way to revitalize cities like DC will be a massive, long term remaking of commercial areas into new, mire desirable residential ones, with smaller businesses (restaurants, grocery stores, cafes, etc) following residents into these areas. And for it to work there will need to be crackdowns on crime. There isn’t a lot of money to fund or incentivize this kind of redevelopment right now so this is going to be a long term challenge.

If DC and other big cities die, the close-in suburbs will follow. In past eras when cities were down they at least still had the business and commercial real estate tax base. Without that there won’t be enough to see the city through to the next redevelopment and revitalization phase. The long term effect of work from home policies is not good for cities as commercial districts.

Sounds like we need a home office tax.

What? Is DC going to tax the people who live in Virginia that no longer commute to DC?

Interstate commerce tax.

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It's annoying to me that our DC rulers take businesses and residents for granted. They just have assumed for a decade now that they don't need to offe anything. FBI leaves... Flippant. Sports leave.... Flippant. Residents leave "we need more condos". Nightmare rulers.

This. Bowser and the DC Council completely took Monumental Sports for granted. Potomac Yards is a vastly inferior site in terms of public transit but Virginia aggressively pursued Monumental. What is infuriating is that the Mayor was so focused on bringing football (8 to 10 games to year) back to RFK that she (and the Council) ignored retaining the Wizards and the Caps ---which is over 40 home games (with all the attendant economic benefits) in the heart of downtown. And what is worse is that a significant number of the current council neither understands nor cares that they just killed one of the golden geese that lays those eggs they like to soak to pay for their current progressive pipe dream du jour.

They don't care about location or fan convenience. This is about 70 acres and 2 billion dollars as a windfall to Ted Leonsis. The city doesn't have that kind of space to give to the team, ergo there was never going to be a fair or equal negotiation.

The deal Abe Pollin cut with the city, that Leonsis inherited, is good for the city and bad for the owner. That was Abe being a benefactor to the city he loved. Ted is about the money and doesn't care about the city of community. If he loses part of his fan base, he doesn't care. As others have noted up thread, there are plenty of tech/Amazon/Defense contractors who will be happy to fill the void.

It’s this. Every owner in sports has been looking at that enormous LA development deal with envy, and trying to figure out how to get one of their own. I doubt that ticket sales and fan convenience are major rows on the spreadsheet.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the Mayor actually trying to retain for the city? The government stuff is slowly leaving. Billionaire sport teams are leaving. What is coming? Why don't we want the FBI in DC?

The Mayor just seems lost.

The mayor is going to make some panicked deal with the Washington Commanders. She needs to save her political career.

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Anonymous wrote:The Caps will be fine. It's a good franchise. What they lose in MoCo and NW DC fans attending games, they'll make up with NoVa fans. I'm in MoCo near the DC line. We go to Caps game all the time. I cannot imagine trekking all the way to Potomac Yards for a weeknight game during rush hour. Not happening. But the Virginia fans will be there.

The Wizards are going to suffer. It's been a losing franchise forever with little hope of changing anytime soon. Most of their fan base - such as it is - is DC based. They are not going to Potomac Yards. You need a winning team for people to go through the inconveinience of going to Potomac Yards. It'll be a pretty empty arena for the foreseeable future when it comes to the Wizards.

The real loser, of course, is DC. This is hundreds of millions in lost revenue. All those restaurants in Gallery Place are going to die. It will be impossible to sell a condo in that neighborhood. It was the arena that turned everything around downtown 30 years ago. It will revert back to the crack era so fast it'll make your head spin. The future for downtown DC is bleak.

I blame Bowser and the City Council, of course. Absolute idiots. But the real villain is the USAO. When you decline to prosecute nearly 70 percent of all arrests, there are consequences. Leonsis said it himself. Most of his employees have been attacked and harassed just going to work. No wants that kind of stress in their day to day life. These are all repeat offenders well known to the police. The average murder suspect in DC has 11 felonies - pretty impressive for a teen or someone in their twenties. And USAO does nothing about these violent people.

So people and businesses are leaving DC. Until DC gets serious about putting criminals in prison, the city will continue to decline.

Plenty of people from Loudoun and western Fairfax travel to DC for Nationals BASEBALL(!) games. Plenty via Metro too (shock). Are MD people from Bethesda and CC too provincial to cross the Potomac? I’m sure a few are but C’mon. If you’re a fan, the move to a neighboring DC community won’t be a big deal.

BTW the commute from western Fairfax to Baltimore via car at rush hour is not that much longer than getting to DC for baseball games.

You aren't getting it. The reason people from all corners go to the games in DC is because DC is in the middle of the region with the transit hubs in the city. When you move attractions to one corner or another, it becomes at best inconvenient and at worse burdensome to untenable, to attend. So sure, you have people from western fairfax to Baltimore going to events in DC because it is DC. For people from Baltimore, it is an easy train ride to Union Station and then walk to the Arena or capital bike share to the arena or stadium. Really for people from upper NW DC and Montgomery County, adding an hour commute to attend games on a weeknight during rush hour (not an hour commute, ADDING an hour) is simply not an option for most people.

I'm a different poster but I promise you the owner doesn't think this is an issue. People will absolutely come to these games. I live here and I can tell you that these politicians and business people are looking to redefine this area. A few years ago I went to a local meeting about Amazon HQ coming to Arlington and the leaders running the effort told us that their goal is to make this area (Crystal City/Pentagon City/Potomac Yard/beyond) less car dependent and more metro/bike dependent. They told us that they don't want people dependent on cars. They are trying to build a dynamic metro like city. I believe there will be even greater changes to come that have not been shared yet.

The regular season of NBA for the Wizards is a miserable entertainment experience. They are never in the playoffs. Regular season for the Caps is a little better but the teams are all playing half effort and the games are pretty boring. Playoff hockey is fantastic but a very rare event. If the caps get in it’s often like only 2 games. Building a village of Bobby’s burger palaces and Fridays level crap is going to be a downer. It would take 100 billion to build something like the Camden yards warehouse and buildings from the 1700s. The modern pro entertainment centers are pukefests like Great Wolf Lodge for low IQ adults.

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Anonymous wrote:The Caps will be fine. It's a good franchise. What they lose in MoCo and NW DC fans attending games, they'll make up with NoVa fans. I'm in MoCo near the DC line. We go to Caps game all the time. I cannot imagine trekking all the way to Potomac Yards for a weeknight game during rush hour. Not happening. But the Virginia fans will be there.

The Wizards are going to suffer. It's been a losing franchise forever with little hope of changing anytime soon. Most of their fan base - such as it is - is DC based. They are not going to Potomac Yards. You need a winning team for people to go through the inconveinience of going to Potomac Yards. It'll be a pretty empty arena for the foreseeable future when it comes to the Wizards.

The real loser, of course, is DC. This is hundreds of millions in lost revenue. All those restaurants in Gallery Place are going to die. It will be impossible to sell a condo in that neighborhood. It was the arena that turned everything around downtown 30 years ago. It will revert back to the crack era so fast it'll make your head spin. The future for downtown DC is bleak.

I blame Bowser and the City Council, of course. Absolute idiots. But the real villain is the USAO. When you decline to prosecute nearly 70 percent of all arrests, there are consequences. Leonsis said it himself. Most of his employees have been attacked and harassed just going to work. No wants that kind of stress in their day to day life. These are all repeat offenders well known to the police. The average murder suspect in DC has 11 felonies - pretty impressive for a teen or someone in their twenties. And USAO does nothing about these violent people.

So people and businesses are leaving DC. Until DC gets serious about putting criminals in prison, the city will continue to decline.

Plenty of people from Loudoun and western Fairfax travel to DC for Nationals BASEBALL(!) games. Plenty via Metro too (shock). Are MD people from Bethesda and CC too provincial to cross the Potomac? I’m sure a few are but C’mon. If you’re a fan, the move to a neighboring DC community won’t be a big deal.

BTW the commute from western Fairfax to Baltimore via car at rush hour is not that much longer than getting to DC for baseball games.

You aren't getting it. The reason people from all corners go to the games in DC is because DC is in the middle of the region with the transit hubs in the city. When you move attractions to one corner or another, it becomes at best inconvenient and at worse burdensome to untenable, to attend. So sure, you have people from western fairfax to Baltimore going to events in DC because it is DC. For people from Baltimore, it is an easy train ride to Union Station and then walk to the Arena or capital bike share to the arena or stadium. Really for people from upper NW DC and Montgomery County, adding an hour commute to attend games on a weeknight during rush hour (not an hour commute, ADDING an hour) is simply not an option for most people.

I'm a different poster but I promise you the owner doesn't think this is an issue. People will absolutely come to these games. I live here and I can tell you that these politicians and business people are looking to redefine this area. A few years ago I went to a local meeting about Amazon HQ coming to Arlington and the leaders running the effort told us that their goal is to make this area (Crystal City/Pentagon City/Potomac Yard/beyond) less car dependent and more metro/bike dependent. They told us that they don't want people dependent on cars. They are trying to build a dynamic metro like city. I believe there will be even greater changes to come that have not been shared yet.

+1. More people will attend the games if they are out of DC. DC is a PITA to get into and, to be frank, the majority of the areas population does not even live there. DC has 700K residents, NOVA has over 3M. NOVA alone could support the sports teams. Plus Baltimore is not coming to Caps/Wizard games - and they are def staying in Balt to support their NFL/MLB teams. NOVA is growing and at a considerably faster rate than DC. Moving the sports teams recognizes and reflects that trend. Glad to see it

[Anonymous]

Don't forget about this footnote to the debacle. The heavily subsidized Wizard's practice facility that was just build gets abandoned when the new arena gets build

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Anonymous wrote:The Caps will be fine. It's a good franchise. What they lose in MoCo and NW DC fans attending games, they'll make up with NoVa fans. I'm in MoCo near the DC line. We go to Caps game all the time. I cannot imagine trekking all the way to Potomac Yards for a weeknight game during rush hour. Not happening. But the Virginia fans will be there.

The Wizards are going to suffer. It's been a losing franchise forever with little hope of changing anytime soon. Most of their fan base - such as it is - is DC based. They are not going to Potomac Yards. You need a winning team for people to go through the inconveinience of going to Potomac Yards. It'll be a pretty empty arena for the foreseeable future when it comes to the Wizards.

The real loser, of course, is DC. This is hundreds of millions in lost revenue. All those restaurants in Gallery Place are going to die. It will be impossible to sell a condo in that neighborhood. It was the arena that turned everything around downtown 30 years ago. It will revert back to the crack era so fast it'll make your head spin. The future for downtown DC is bleak.

I blame Bowser and the City Council, of course. Absolute idiots. But the real villain is the USAO. When you decline to prosecute nearly 70 percent of all arrests, there are consequences. Leonsis said it himself. Most of his employees have been attacked and harassed just going to work. No wants that kind of stress in their day to day life. These are all repeat offenders well known to the police. The average murder suspect in DC has 11 felonies - pretty impressive for a teen or someone in their twenties. And USAO does nothing about these violent people.

So people and businesses are leaving DC. Until DC gets serious about putting criminals in prison, the city will continue to decline.

Plenty of people from Loudoun and western Fairfax travel to DC for Nationals BASEBALL(!) games. Plenty via Metro too (shock). Are MD people from Bethesda and CC too provincial to cross the Potomac? I’m sure a few are but C’mon. If you’re a fan, the move to a neighboring DC community won’t be a big deal.

BTW the commute from western Fairfax to Baltimore via car at rush hour is not that much longer than getting to DC for baseball games.

You aren't getting it. The reason people from all corners go to the games in DC is because DC is in the middle of the region with the transit hubs in the city. When you move attractions to one corner or another, it becomes at best inconvenient and at worse burdensome to untenable, to attend. So sure, you have people from western fairfax to Baltimore going to events in DC because it is DC. For people from Baltimore, it is an easy train ride to Union Station and then walk to the Arena or capital bike share to the arena or stadium. Really for people from upper NW DC and Montgomery County, adding an hour commute to attend games on a weeknight during rush hour (not an hour commute, ADDING an hour) is simply not an option for most people.

I'm a different poster but I promise you the owner doesn't think this is an issue. People will absolutely come to these games. I live here and I can tell you that these politicians and business people are looking to redefine this area. A few years ago I went to a local meeting about Amazon HQ coming to Arlington and the leaders running the effort told us that their goal is to make this area (Crystal City/Pentagon City/Potomac Yard/beyond) less car dependent and more metro/bike dependent. They told us that they don't want people dependent on cars. They are trying to build a dynamic metro like city. I believe there will be even greater changes to come that have not been shared yet.

The regular season of NBA for the Wizards is a miserable entertainment experience. They are never in the playoffs. Regular season for the Caps is a little better but the teams are all playing half effort and the games are pretty boring. Playoff hockey is fantastic but a very rare event. If the caps get in it’s often like only 2 games. Building a village of Bobby’s burger palaces and Fridays level crap is going to be a downer. It would take 100 billion to build something like the Camden yards warehouse and buildings from the 1700s. The modern pro entertainment centers are pukefests like Great Wolf Lodge for low IQ adults.

Have you been to any of the new venues? The Patriots set the standard with Gillette. After that, massive developments are the new norm. Even the O's are demanding development rights on the land around Camden in exchange for staying

https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/orioles-holding-out-for-development-rights-as-lease-deadline-nears-baltimore/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The Caps will be fine. It's a good franchise. What they lose in MoCo and NW DC fans attending games, they'll make up with NoVa fans. I'm in MoCo near the DC line. We go to Caps game all the time. I cannot imagine trekking all the way to Potomac Yards for a weeknight game during rush hour. Not happening. But the Virginia fans will be there.

The Wizards are going to suffer. It's been a losing franchise forever with little hope of changing anytime soon. Most of their fan base - such as it is - is DC based. They are not going to Potomac Yards. You need a winning team for people to go through the inconveinience of going to Potomac Yards. It'll be a pretty empty arena for the foreseeable future when it comes to the Wizards.

The real loser, of course, is DC. This is hundreds of millions in lost revenue. All those restaurants in Gallery Place are going to die. It will be impossible to sell a condo in that neighborhood. It was the arena that turned everything around downtown 30 years ago. It will revert back to the crack era so fast it'll make your head spin. The future for downtown DC is bleak.

I blame Bowser and the City Council, of course. Absolute idiots. But the real villain is the USAO. When you decline to prosecute nearly 70 percent of all arrests, there are consequences. Leonsis said it himself. Most of his employees have been attacked and harassed just going to work. No wants that kind of stress in their day to day life. These are all repeat offenders well known to the police. The average murder suspect in DC has 11 felonies - pretty impressive for a teen or someone in their twenties. And USAO does nothing about these violent people.

So people and businesses are leaving DC. Until DC gets serious about putting criminals in prison, the city will continue to decline.

Plenty of people from Loudoun and western Fairfax travel to DC for Nationals BASEBALL(!) games. Plenty via Metro too (shock). Are MD people from Bethesda and CC too provincial to cross the Potomac? I’m sure a few are but C’mon. If you’re a fan, the move to a neighboring DC community won’t be a big deal.

BTW the commute from western Fairfax to Baltimore via car at rush hour is not that much longer than getting to DC for baseball games.

You aren't getting it. The reason people from all corners go to the games in DC is because DC is in the middle of the region with the transit hubs in the city. When you move attractions to one corner or another, it becomes at best inconvenient and at worse burdensome to untenable, to attend. So sure, you have people from western fairfax to Baltimore going to events in DC because it is DC. For people from Baltimore, it is an easy train ride to Union Station and then walk to the Arena or capital bike share to the arena or stadium. Really for people from upper NW DC and Montgomery County, adding an hour commute to attend games on a weeknight during rush hour (not an hour commute, ADDING an hour) is simply not an option for most people.

I'm a different poster but I promise you the owner doesn't think this is an issue. People will absolutely come to these games. I live here and I can tell you that these politicians and business people are looking to redefine this area. A few years ago I went to a local meeting about Amazon HQ coming to Arlington and the leaders running the effort told us that their goal is to make this area (Crystal City/Pentagon City/Potomac Yard/beyond) less car dependent and more metro/bike dependent. They told us that they don't want people dependent on cars. They are trying to build a dynamic metro like city. I believe there will be even greater changes to come that have not been shared yet.

+1. More people will attend the games if they are out of DC. DC is a PITA to get into and, to be frank, the majority of the areas population does not even live there. DC has 700K residents, NOVA has over 3M. NOVA alone could support the sports teams. Plus Baltimore is not coming to Caps/Wizard games - and they are def staying in Balt to support their NFL/MLB teams. NOVA is growing and at a considerably faster rate than DC. Moving the sports teams recognizes and reflects that trend. Glad to see it

Coming from southern PG, and points south and east in Maryland will also be more convenient that. The inner loop across the Wilson bridge is almost traffic free during weekday evenings and from there it's a straight shot up the GW or RT 1- much easier than getting to downtown DC

[Anonymous]

This could open up a huge opportunity for Baltimore to bring in NBA and NHL on the waterfront at Middle Branch right off 95. Pull in and unify the valuable market north of the Potomac. The Chesapeake Blue Crabs NHL and bring back Baltimore Bullets for NBA.

This can be win-win. I’ll bet the Md Gov is working on it already.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the Mayor actually trying to retain for the city? The government stuff is slowly leaving. Billionaire sport teams are leaving. What is coming? Why don't we want the FBI in DC?

The Mayor just seems lost.

She has never had a vision for the city and is in way over head. She can no longer coast on the success of her predecessors.

Scandals, corruption, crime, dysfunctional agencies. I never voted for her and we get three more years.

Buckle up as she seeks to blame anyone but herself.

Unfortunately it is this.

The road that Tony Williams set up needed an actual driver with a vision and Mayor Bowser has no vision. She has finally run out of the momentum he established.

The Mayor has no real vision or plan for DC. She has not even appointed a Deputy Mayor for economic development. How can she not do that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Caps will be fine. It's a good franchise. What they lose in MoCo and NW DC fans attending games, they'll make up with NoVa fans. I'm in MoCo near the DC line. We go to Caps game all the time. I cannot imagine trekking all the way to Potomac Yards for a weeknight game during rush hour. Not happening. But the Virginia fans will be there.

The Wizards are going to suffer. It's been a losing franchise forever with little hope of changing anytime soon. Most of their fan base - such as it is - is DC based. They are not going to Potomac Yards. You need a winning team for people to go through the inconveinience of going to Potomac Yards. It'll be a pretty empty arena for the foreseeable future when it comes to the Wizards.

The real loser, of course, is DC. This is hundreds of millions in lost revenue. All those restaurants in Gallery Place are going to die. It will be impossible to sell a condo in that neighborhood. It was the arena that turned everything around downtown 30 years ago. It will revert back to the crack era so fast it'll make your head spin. The future for downtown DC is bleak.

I blame Bowser and the City Council, of course. Absolute idiots. But the real villain is the USAO. When you decline to prosecute nearly 70 percent of all arrests, there are consequences. Leonsis said it himself. Most of his employees have been attacked and harassed just going to work. No wants that kind of stress in their day to day life. These are all repeat offenders well known to the police. The average murder suspect in DC has 11 felonies - pretty impressive for a teen or someone in their twenties. And USAO does nothing about these violent people.

So people and businesses are leaving DC. Until DC gets serious about putting criminals in prison, the city will continue to decline.

Plenty of people from Loudoun and western Fairfax travel to DC for Nationals BASEBALL(!) games. Plenty via Metro too (shock). Are MD people from Bethesda and CC too provincial to cross the Potomac? I’m sure a few are but C’mon. If you’re a fan, the move to a neighboring DC community won’t be a big deal.

BTW the commute from western Fairfax to Baltimore via car at rush hour is not that much longer than getting to DC for baseball games.

You aren't getting it. The reason people from all corners go to the games in DC is because DC is in the middle of the region with the transit hubs in the city. When you move attractions to one corner or another, it becomes at best inconvenient and at worse burdensome to untenable, to attend. So sure, you have people from western fairfax to Baltimore going to events in DC because it is DC. For people from Baltimore, it is an easy train ride to Union Station and then walk to the Arena or capital bike share to the arena or stadium. Really for people from upper NW DC and Montgomery County, adding an hour commute to attend games on a weeknight during rush hour (not an hour commute, ADDING an hour) is simply not an option for most people.

I'm a different poster but I promise you the owner doesn't think this is an issue. People will absolutely come to these games. I live here and I can tell you that these politicians and business people are looking to redefine this area. A few years ago I went to a local meeting about Amazon HQ coming to Arlington and the leaders running the effort told us that their goal is to make this area (Crystal City/Pentagon City/Potomac Yard/beyond) less car dependent and more metro/bike dependent. They told us that they don't want people dependent on cars. They are trying to build a dynamic metro like city. I believe there will be even greater changes to come that have not been shared yet.

+1. More people will attend the games if they are out of DC. DC is a PITA to get into and, to be frank, the majority of the areas population does not even live there. DC has 700K residents, NOVA has over 3M. NOVA alone could support the sports teams. Plus Baltimore is not coming to Caps/Wizard games - and they are def staying in Balt to support their NFL/MLB teams. NOVA is growing and at a considerably faster rate than DC. Moving the sports teams recognizes and reflects that trend. Glad to see it

Virginia is the 12 most populous state. States 1-11, 13-22 all have professional sports teams. It shouldn't be surprising that they finally got one

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This could open up a huge opportunity for Baltimore to bring in NBA and NHL on the waterfront at Middle Branch right off 95. Pull in and unify the valuable market north of the Potomac. The Chesapeake Blue Crabs NHL and bring back Baltimore Bullets for NBA.

This can be win-win. I’ll bet the Md Gov is working on it already.

That idea would be better just for NHL. A hockey team getting its own arena and area just for Hockey and not sharing with NBA in that area would be huge incentive. Right on the water with all those warehouses from the 1700s to work with.

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Anonymous wrote:If DC (and MD for that matter) just made their tax policy competitive with VA, it would be a different story.

Safety is easy, Leonsis could hire a private security team outside Cap One if he was treated fairly from a tax standpoint.

MD and DC are going to continue to spiral until they get competitive.

I live in MD making about 750k. I truly think about the additional 3% or so of income tax in playing - would cover my daughters day care. I can pretty much see VA from my home in Bethesda..

I guess you don't get that the tax/fee burden for DC individuals is lower than VA or MD, right? Look at the studies, this myth that VA is some sort of tax haven compared to the neighboring jurisdictions has been pure fantasy for years.

I’m a CPA, you’re factually incorrect.

Va is the best, then DC, the MD. If you’re poor, sure DC is great.

Then you aren't much of a CPA

https://eliresidential.com/2019/02/19/2019-2-18-does-virginia-washington-dc-or-maryland-have-the-most-favorable-taxes/

I can provide many other links that show the same thing - YOU are factually incorrect.

DC will never offer the sports play book area VA can. Simple, DC need to legalize gambling to have a skin in the game.

NoVA is already moving in a casino in Fairfax unfortunately. I hope it gets quashed but the developer is persistent.

Casinos are so trashy. MGM level is barely tolerable to me. The rest are disgusting human debris collectors.

+1.

Ive been to MGM twice. Both times I realized I'm about 40 levels classier than the general public.

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Anonymous wrote:If DC (and MD for that matter) just made their tax policy competitive with VA, it would be a different story.

Safety is easy, Leonsis could hire a private security team outside Cap One if he was treated fairly from a tax standpoint.

MD and DC are going to continue to spiral until they get competitive.

I live in MD making about 750k. I truly think about the additional 3% or so of income tax in playing - would cover my daughters day care. I can pretty much see VA from my home in Bethesda..

I guess you don't get that the tax/fee burden for DC individuals is lower than VA or MD, right? Look at the studies, this myth that VA is some sort of tax haven compared to the neighboring jurisdictions has been pure fantasy for years.

I’m a CPA, you’re factually incorrect.

Va is the best, then DC, the MD. If you’re poor, sure DC is great.

Then you aren't much of a CPA

https://eliresidential.com/2019/02/19/2019-2-18-does-virginia-washington-dc-or-maryland-have-the-most-favorable-taxes/

I can provide many other links that show the same thing - YOU are factually incorrect.

DC will never offer the sports play book area VA can. Simple, DC need to legalize gambling to have a skin in the game.

NoVA is already moving in a casino in Fairfax unfortunately. I hope it gets quashed but the developer is persistent.

Casinos are so trashy. MGM level is barely tolerable to me. The rest are disgusting human debris collectors.

RE: MGM - Felt like I was getting high from the second-hand week smoke, not to mention the restaurant service is terrible.