Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since this seems to have fallen off the radar,

https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2024/12/17/dc-council-approves-capital-one-arena-legislation-ted-leonsis-capitals/

First, the District government is purchasing Capital One Arena from MSE for $87.5 million. The venue will then be leased back to MSE, who will operate and maintain it, for about $2 million a year through 2050, with up to five four-year renewals beyond that.

This misses DC government’s obligation to invest $500 million in improvements. So in effect, DC is buying the Arena for $600 million and in return receiving $37 million in rent over 25 years. Which at that time there will be no residual value in the building.

Yes, that was the deal: The city was going to pour money into the building as a condition for keeping the team. That was, in fact, the city's ORIGINAL offer before Leonsis tried to move to Virginia, too. I think his whole dalliance with Youngkin wound up netting an extra $15 million in improvements over the offer he rejected.

All in all, I suspect $600 million is less than the District would have had to spend remaking that area/would have lost in various tax revenues if the teams had all moved out of the city.

Trying to spin this as a good deal for DC is pretty LOL.

[Anonymous]

The new renders for the new downtown arena are out on the NSMT account, and it looks very flowy. I think the inspiration is the wispy iconography associated with wizards and wizardry in general. Lots of new, bright LED signage as well. I prefer the look of the current arena myself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The new renders for the new downtown arena are out on the NSMT account, and it looks very flowy. I think the inspiration is the wispy iconography associated with wizards and wizardry in general. Lots of new, bright LED signage as well. I prefer the look of the current arena myself.

Looks inspired by SOFI Stadium in LA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The new renders for the new downtown arena are out on the NSMT account, and it looks very flowy. I think the inspiration is the wispy iconography associated with wizards and wizardry in general. Lots of new, bright LED signage as well. I prefer the look of the current arena myself.

Looks inspired by SOFI Stadium in LA.

SOFI is a groundbreaking project that sets a high bar. But the renders for the DC arena reveal a vastly inferior design that’s trying to hard to be trendy. It’s not innovative, interesting or inspiring at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since this seems to have fallen off the radar,

https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2024/12/17/dc-council-approves-capital-one-arena-legislation-ted-leonsis-capitals/

First, the District government is purchasing Capital One Arena from MSE for $87.5 million. The venue will then be leased back to MSE, who will operate and maintain it, for about $2 million a year through 2050, with up to five four-year renewals beyond that.

This misses DC government’s obligation to invest $500 million in improvements. So in effect, DC is buying the Arena for $600 million and in return receiving $37 million in rent over 25 years. Which at that time there will be no residual value in the building.

Yes, that was the deal: The city was going to pour money into the building as a condition for keeping the team. That was, in fact, the city's ORIGINAL offer before Leonsis tried to move to Virginia, too. I think his whole dalliance with Youngkin wound up netting an extra $15 million in improvements over the offer he rejected.

All in all, I suspect $600 million is less than the District would have had to spend remaking that area/would have lost in various tax revenues if the teams had all moved out of the city.

Trying to spin this as a good deal for DC is pretty LOL.

Would have been pretty bad for D.C. if the teams had left, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The new renders for the new downtown arena are out on the NSMT account, and it looks very flowy. I think the inspiration is the wispy iconography associated with wizards and wizardry in general. Lots of new, bright LED signage as well. I prefer the look of the current arena myself.

Here’s the link: https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2024/12/19/monumental-renderings-renovation-exterior-interior-capital-one-arena/

Honestly, I think it looks appalling. Those giant waves and flashing neon will completely overwhelm the beautiful classical buildings that surround the arena. In a decade or two, it will be thought of in much the same way that we think of the Hoover Building now.

The best stadiums are those that are buried so as to reduce their imposition on the cityscape. This is basically doing the exact opposite.

I hope somehow this concept gets shelved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The new renders for the new downtown arena are out on the NSMT account, and it looks very flowy. I think the inspiration is the wispy iconography associated with wizards and wizardry in general. Lots of new, bright LED signage as well. I prefer the look of the current arena myself.

Here’s the link: https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2024/12/19/monumental-renderings-renovation-exterior-interior-capital-one-arena/

Honestly, I think it looks appalling. Those giant waves and flashing neon will completely overwhelm the beautiful classical buildings that surround the arena. In a decade or two, it will be thought of in much the same way that we think of the Hoover Building now.

The best stadiums are those that are buried so as to reduce their imposition on the cityscape. This is basically doing the exact opposite.

I hope somehow this concept gets shelved.

You don’t live in the area, do you?

First, Capital One Arena already exists and the building height is consistent with the existing streetscape.

Second, this is only to update and modernize the facade.

Third, the building currently and already features a massive exterior video wall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The new renders for the new downtown arena are out on the NSMT account, and it looks very flowy. I think the inspiration is the wispy iconography associated with wizards and wizardry in general. Lots of new, bright LED signage as well. I prefer the look of the current arena myself.

Here’s the link: https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2024/12/19/monumental-renderings-renovation-exterior-interior-capital-one-arena/

Honestly, I think it looks appalling. Those giant waves and flashing neon will completely overwhelm the beautiful classical buildings that surround the arena. In a decade or two, it will be thought of in much the same way that we think of the Hoover Building now.

The best stadiums are those that are buried so as to reduce their imposition on the cityscape. This is basically doing the exact opposite.

I hope somehow this concept gets shelved.

You don’t live in the area, do you?

First, Capital One Arena already exists and the building height is consistent with the existing streetscape.

Second, this is only to update and modernize the facade.

Third, the building currently and already features a massive exterior video wall.

I think people are hating on the strange glowing canopy that looks like one of those hi-tech running shoes with all the swoops.

[Anonymous]

Initially I thought it seemed a bit much, but with all the other development in that area, and the energy and excitement it will bring, I think this will look better than the current box that sits there now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The new renders for the new downtown arena are out on the NSMT account, and it looks very flowy. I think the inspiration is the wispy iconography associated with wizards and wizardry in general. Lots of new, bright LED signage as well. I prefer the look of the current arena myself.

Here’s the link: https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2024/12/19/monumental-renderings-renovation-exterior-interior-capital-one-arena/

Honestly, I think it looks appalling. Those giant waves and flashing neon will completely overwhelm the beautiful classical buildings that surround the arena. In a decade or two, it will be thought of in much the same way that we think of the Hoover Building now.

The best stadiums are those that are buried so as to reduce their imposition on the cityscape. This is basically doing the exact opposite.

I hope somehow this concept gets shelved.

The arena can't be buried. It's on top of the existing Metro station.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Initially I thought it seemed a bit much, but with all the other development in that area, and the energy and excitement it will bring, I think this will look better than the current box that sits there now.

The current brick facade was to make the arena a part of the neighborhood streetscape. This proposed revamp is to set the arena apart.

The current building looks drab. The proposed design looks modern but trendy and may actually seem dated by the time it is completed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The new renders for the new downtown arena are out on the NSMT account, and it looks very flowy. I think the inspiration is the wispy iconography associated with wizards and wizardry in general. Lots of new, bright LED signage as well. I prefer the look of the current arena myself.

Here’s the link: https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2024/12/19/monumental-renderings-renovation-exterior-interior-capital-one-arena/

Honestly, I think it looks appalling. Those giant waves and flashing neon will completely overwhelm the beautiful classical buildings that surround the arena. In a decade or two, it will be thought of in much the same way that we think of the Hoover Building now.

The best stadiums are those that are buried so as to reduce their imposition on the cityscape. This is basically doing the exact opposite.

I hope somehow this concept gets shelved.

The arena can't be buried. It's on top of the existing Metro station.

It’s already also partially buried. The arena floor is below street level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Initially I thought it seemed a bit much, but with all the other development in that area, and the energy and excitement it will bring, I think this will look better than the current box that sits there now.

The current brick facade was to make the arena a part of the neighborhood streetscape. This proposed revamp is to set the arena apart.

The current building looks drab. The proposed design looks modern but trendy and may actually seem dated by the time it is completed.

The current arean does not have a brick facade. Not even close.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Initially I thought it seemed a bit much, but with all the other development in that area, and the energy and excitement it will bring, I think this will look better than the current box that sits there now.

The current brick facade was to make the arena a part of the neighborhood streetscape. This proposed revamp is to set the arena apart.

The current building looks drab. The proposed design looks modern but trendy and may actually seem dated by the time it is completed.

The current arean does not have a brick facade. Not even close.

I believe it’s gray brick. It may look like drab concrete because of the color and the decades of accumulated soot and grime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Initially I thought it seemed a bit much, but with all the other development in that area, and the energy and excitement it will bring, I think this will look better than the current box that sits there now.

The current brick facade was to make the arena a part of the neighborhood streetscape. This proposed revamp is to set the arena apart.

The current building looks drab. The proposed design looks modern but trendy and may actually seem dated by the time it is completed.

The current arean does not have a brick facade. Not even close.

You’re not even close to being correct. It’s brick. Like seriously, where do you live?
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