Can I sue Callie Oettinger?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has confirmed to me that most of my neighbors are flaming idiots and don’t understand how the Freedom of Information Acts works. Perhaps your kids are all suffering from anxiety because you’re their mom and completely disconnected from reality. Also, FCPS is corrupt and incompetent. As a former teacher, I can tell you that they’re all laughing at you. And this woman Callie exposed their weakness and you’re too stupid to figure it out.

Why do you feel need to start insulting others? Zero people are defending FCPS. We know their wrong doings. We’re talking about Callie. She could have been exposing the county, but decided to expose our children in the process. Shes just another angry white women and I hope she gets hers soon. Frankly, you just sound bitter and I’m glad you no longer work with the county.

That’s OK sweetheart. I’m making a ton of money off the fact that the school system closed its doors for over a year. Most of you don’t even realize that your kids are behind academically because you’re too afraid to see the truth. I see you. You’re just a basic, white, upper middle-class mom wearing Lululemon and drinking Starbucks coffee. And I get paid a lot of money per hour to fix what FCPS broke.

Why are you even here? We’re upset that some lawsuit happy lady took our kids info and shared it. It was easy enough for her to make it known without sharing other children’s info. But she’ll get hers. Her and her kids info are out there too. Easy enough to find. You’re just here to stir the pot because you’re a bitter old lady. Just troll somewhere else.

How dare you misgender me. I’m a transwoman and you are full of hate.

[Anonymous]

She gave your information (on a thumb drive) to the Goldwater Institute.

search for "thumb"

https://news.yahoo.com/alleged-rape-victim-presses-va-160100132.html

[Anonymous]

I have an attorney looking into the mattter.

In addition, I have filed a criminal complaint with the Virginia Attorney General's office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She gave your information (on a thumb drive) to the Goldwater Institute.

search for "thumb"

https://news.yahoo.com/alleged-rape-victim-presses-va-160100132.html

Wow. That’s scary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have an attorney looking into the mattter.

In addition, I have filed a criminal complaint with the Virginia Attorney General's office.

Please keep us updated and thank you for taking these first steps.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a college student. Just finished my last finals, I get home from break, and the letter that welcomed me back to Fairfax was telling me my IEP was published. I just found out today, I have very little idea what information has been published. I just wanted a break, but now I'm playing muckraker trying to find out wtf is going on. Reminds me of what a great time high school was. (I hated everything about it) Anyone have any tips?

Most likely the information was not published. Fcps gave it to a parent, who posted online about receiving the information, totaled by category of information.

If you are Susie Q with a dyslexia IEP, the parent did not post that information with your name. She posted that information as "16 IEPs for dyslexia were leaked"

I hope that helps you to relax a little on your break

Yes--from what we understand, you can feel assured that you're not likely to find your personal IEP with your name on it anywhere. What myself and others are so upset about is not that all this data is posted somewhere with kids' names on it--rather that a parent's reaction to getting a lot of private data is not to return it and make a complaint--but to go through it, catalog what was found posting publicly some examples with names redacted on her blog, share the data with a journalist who then posts about it including a few images they redacted the names from on-line, and moreover we have no assurance that the data hasn't been shared privately with anyone else--and this is all without consent from parents about their minor children -- or from adults like you about their own past data. I think people are additionally upset because the person doing this is arguing that they are doing it in the name of data privacy --while seeming to violate others' privacy by doing this with their private data without their consent.

[Anonymous]

It seems she already shared it with others so why is she fighting for data privacy if she's sharing this data without consent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems she already shared it with others so why is she fighting for data privacy if she's sharing this data without consent?

It appears the only data privacy she cares about is her own child’s. She has repeatedly come on here to say she don’t owe our kids anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It seems she already shared it with others so why is she fighting for data privacy if she's sharing this data without consent?

It appears the only data privacy she cares about is her own child’s. She has repeatedly come on here to say she don’t owe our kids anything.

* doesn’t!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still would prefer to sue FCPS. Y’all might hate Callie but she is h to e only one shining a light on how terrible special Ed is and how gatehouse is a mess with data and lots of other things- like the whole due process thing where parents never won because the judges were on the FCPS payroll.

Nah, I'd sue Callie. FCPS was dumb in releasing the info and someone needs to get canned. But we wouldn't be here without Callie posting it on the Internet.

And you wouldn't know about the 100s of times a year FCPS accidentally releases your kids information either if Callie wouldn't be making such a big deal about this. FCPS does this ALL the time and never notifies parents. They either pretend it didn't happen, ask for the data back, or (in 99% of the cases) don't know it happened because no one tells them.

By making a big deal about thus, Callie is trying to get FCPS to FINALLY secure our kids data. You all should be thanking her, not suing her.

Don't believe me? Make a FOIA request yourself. FCPS routinely gives the wrong people's data in response. See what you get back.

How about you stop making FOIA requests to a system overburdened with requests from nutjobs like you, so they don't have to frantically work to release massive amounts of data, resulting in this mess? My kid's info wouldn't be out there if it weren't for your profoundly unethical decision to give it to the media instead of returning it to FCPS. The fact that you can't be prosecuted for it doesn't make you any less of a slime.

How about you get a life and a job? Then again, judging from your grammar, requesting donations on your website to mess with FCPS might be your most lucrative opportunity.

Not pp.

People have valid reasons to request information via foia and you are a lousy human being if you discourage parents from examining their children's information. This person you hate was right to make this a big deal of FCPS's failure to safeguard student information. It is a huge deal and that FCPS did it again makes it even worse. Here and there one of you nuts will say "both FCPS and Callie are wrong" but you aren't going after FCPS. Anyone who comments with reason is accused of being Callie. I'm accusing the worst of you of being FCPS lackeys who are upset about the trouble they are in for causing this problem. You know FCPS staff are going to try to smear her.

The whole breach aside, let's just examine the parent examining info issue: From the article I read, I think it said she spent 2-3 full days on site gathering data for this particular request on her children's data--with at least 2 staff people involved. Let's lowball this amount of time for this 1 request then to be 20 hours, so say for 2 people it's 40 work hours. It could be more, but I don't work for FCPS so I don't know. There are 180,000 students in FCPS. If every parent examine all their data that thoroughly and required that much attention-- my calculation is my lowball number would involve 7.2 million staff hours. And that's just for this particular request not for any prior ones made or any preparation needed.

I get that there are important individual parents' rights, but I think there also have to be more reasonable limits on demands for data if we want a functional system. It's just too easy for an individual to undermine the collective good in my opinion. If current law doesn't allow us to put in what we collectively think are reasonable limits, I think the law needs to be changed.

Schools have refused to be transparent and honest with parents since the beginning of time so I would not be happy with laws being created to diminish a parent's ability to access data about their children. Those of you wanting limits put on access to data need to tread very carefully. My county plays so many games with the data and emails etc just disappear that I'd be reluctant to give the school systems any more opportunities to hide things. And yes, the hide things and intentionally lose things.

It doesn't take that much time to find your access your child's data unless the school system's control of the data is abysmal. I've done it in my county and it did not take that long. Also the school system gathered the data themselves. Why did FCPS let the parent come in and gather the data themselves? That alone seems like a potential security breach.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has confirmed to me that most of my neighbors are flaming idiots and don’t understand how the Freedom of Information Acts works. Perhaps your kids are all suffering from anxiety because you’re their mom and completely disconnected from reality. Also, FCPS is corrupt and incompetent. As a former teacher, I can tell you that they’re all laughing at you. And this woman Callie exposed their weakness and you’re too stupid to figure it out.

Why do you feel need to start insulting others? Zero people are defending FCPS. We know their wrong doings. We’re talking about Callie. She could have been exposing the county, but decided to expose our children in the process. Shes just another angry white women and I hope she gets hers soon. Frankly, you just sound bitter and I’m glad you no longer work with the county.

That’s OK sweetheart. I’m making a ton of money off the fact that the school system closed its doors for over a year. Most of you don’t even realize that your kids are behind academically because you’re too afraid to see the truth. I see you. You’re just a basic, white, upper middle-class mom wearing Lululemon and drinking Starbucks coffee. And I get paid a lot of money per hour to fix what FCPS broke.

You describe yourself as someone who exploits parents instead of caring about children or doing the moral, ethical thing. You are what is wrong with the advocacy system. You are why professionals don’t want to work for school systems. You feed fear, lies, and disinformation to desperate families to make a buck or get publicity. You are a lousy, despicable person as are the other “advocates” I know. Absolutely horrific.

I'm not the prior poster but you are outing yourself as a school employee.

I have worked with many advocates through my child's educational career and not a single one of them "feed fear, lies, and disinformation..." Wanna know who did? The school system. Teachers and admins routinely made up state laws, policies etc just to get out of providing services and accommodations to my kid. I have seen so much unprofessional behavior and dishonesty from the school system that I have an intrinsic distrust of teachers and admins. So many of them, especially special ed staff, are ignorant about the disabilities they are supposed to be educated about. My kid was abused by teachers and I know several other kids who were treated worse. There was never any accountability by the school system. We filed complaints and prevailed and nothing changed.

Where I am students with disabilities get screwed over if you do not have an advocate.

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Anonymous wrote:I still would prefer to sue FCPS. Y’all might hate Callie but she is h to e only one shining a light on how terrible special Ed is and how gatehouse is a mess with data and lots of other things- like the whole due process thing where parents never won because the judges were on the FCPS payroll.

Nah, I'd sue Callie. FCPS was dumb in releasing the info and someone needs to get canned. But we wouldn't be here without Callie posting it on the Internet.

And you wouldn't know about the 100s of times a year FCPS accidentally releases your kids information either if Callie wouldn't be making such a big deal about this. FCPS does this ALL the time and never notifies parents. They either pretend it didn't happen, ask for the data back, or (in 99% of the cases) don't know it happened because no one tells them.

By making a big deal about thus, Callie is trying to get FCPS to FINALLY secure our kids data. You all should be thanking her, not suing her.

Don't believe me? Make a FOIA request yourself. FCPS routinely gives the wrong people's data in response. See what you get back.

How about you stop making FOIA requests to a system overburdened with requests from nutjobs like you, so they don't have to frantically work to release massive amounts of data, resulting in this mess? My kid's info wouldn't be out there if it weren't for your profoundly unethical decision to give it to the media instead of returning it to FCPS. The fact that you can't be prosecuted for it doesn't make you any less of a slime.

How about you get a life and a job? Then again, judging from your grammar, requesting donations on your website to mess with FCPS might be your most lucrative opportunity.

Not pp.

People have valid reasons to request information via foia and you are a lousy human being if you discourage parents from examining their children's information. This person you hate was right to make this a big deal of FCPS's failure to safeguard student information. It is a huge deal and that FCPS did it again makes it even worse. Here and there one of you nuts will say "both FCPS and Callie are wrong" but you aren't going after FCPS. Anyone who comments with reason is accused of being Callie. I'm accusing the worst of you of being FCPS lackeys who are upset about the trouble they are in for causing this problem. You know FCPS staff are going to try to smear her.

The whole breach aside, let's just examine the parent examining info issue: From the article I read, I think it said she spent 2-3 full days on site gathering data for this particular request on her children's data--with at least 2 staff people involved. Let's lowball this amount of time for this 1 request then to be 20 hours, so say for 2 people it's 40 work hours. It could be more, but I don't work for FCPS so I don't know. There are 180,000 students in FCPS. If every parent examine all their data that thoroughly and required that much attention-- my calculation is my lowball number would involve 7.2 million staff hours. And that's just for this particular request not for any prior ones made or any preparation needed.

I get that there are important individual parents' rights, but I think there also have to be more reasonable limits on demands for data if we want a functional system. It's just too easy for an individual to undermine the collective good in my opinion. If current law doesn't allow us to put in what we collectively think are reasonable limits, I think the law needs to be changed.

Exactly. Callie and parents/advocates like her waste staff resources and time in so many ways that takes away from quality education for all. Requests for records, requests for multiple IEP meetings per year with lots of professionals and PSL, requests for multiple/repeat assessments, and so on. And the school has to go along or the parent/advocate will file a complaint, sue, or defamate school staff publicly. These parents/advocates create a huge waste of all tax payer dollars for a very small group of students. They take time, money, resources from other students and say they are entitled to things that are way beyond reasonable. Nothing will change until more parents stand up against the unreasonable, exploitive behaviors.

You work for the school system without a doubt. How dare you blame the parents for fighting to get a fair education for their children with disabilities. It is clear you think students with disabilities are less than and should be kept hidden away. In my county, I was pushed into a dozen iep meetings because they knew I would be filing complaints, had to have an advocate and they thought they were exhausting my finances so I couldn't use my very good, professional advocate to help. What a hate filled, discriminatory post you ignorant wretch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS already sued her once and lost.

I don’t like it either but FCPS makes the same mistakes over and over? Read this:

https://specialeducationaction.com/fairfax-county-public-schools-sands-anderson-and-blankingship-keith-breach-privacy-during-due-process/

Imagine having a school system sue you. She’s so vile.

No, the school system is. This was a desperate attempt to cover their azzes because they caused a huge problem. It is so cute that they are trying to blame their huge mistake on a parent who asked for data about her child. They are desperate and smart people know a few posters here are part of the smear campaign to deflect from their massive screw up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It seems she already shared it with others so why is she fighting for data privacy if she's sharing this data without consent?

It appears the only data privacy she cares about is her own child’s. She has repeatedly come on here to say she don’t owe our kids anything.

You are sick. I've replied to many of these posts and I'm not Callie and I don't know her or anyone associated with septa. Keep trying with the lies.

Please show us where Callie came her to say she "don't owe our kids anything". Cite it.

[Anonymous]

FCPS sucks for being so casual with so much extremely personal information AND for not being open with parents about what documents were given away AND for not having a point person and sending parents to get a canned script from a contractor,

Callie sucks for wasting so much of the school system's time AND for not giving the info back AND for sending it all to a journalist AND for publishing docs on her website where the identity of kids can be deduced.