Can I sue Callie Oettinger?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has confirmed to me that most of my neighbors are flaming idiots and don’t understand how the Freedom of Information Acts works. Perhaps your kids are all suffering from anxiety because you’re their mom and completely disconnected from reality. Also, FCPS is corrupt and incompetent. As a former teacher, I can tell you that they’re all laughing at you. And this woman Callie exposed their weakness and you’re too stupid to figure it out.

Why do you feel need to start insulting others? Zero people are defending FCPS. We know their wrong doings. We’re talking about Callie. She could have been exposing the county, but decided to expose our children in the process. Shes just another angry white women and I hope she gets hers soon. Frankly, you just sound bitter and I’m glad you no longer work with the county.

That’s OK sweetheart. I’m making a ton of money off the fact that the school system closed its doors for over a year. Most of you don’t even realize that your kids are behind academically because you’re too afraid to see the truth. I see you. You’re just a basic, white, upper middle-class mom wearing Lululemon and drinking Starbucks coffee. And I get paid a lot of money per hour to fix what FCPS broke.

cuckoo

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has confirmed to me that most of my neighbors are flaming idiots and don’t understand how the Freedom of Information Acts works. Perhaps your kids are all suffering from anxiety because you’re their mom and completely disconnected from reality. Also, FCPS is corrupt and incompetent. As a former teacher, I can tell you that they’re all laughing at you. And this woman Callie exposed their weakness and you’re too stupid to figure it out.

Glad you’re not teaching in FCPS anymore.

-current FCPS teacher who hopes this Callie gets the pants sue off of her

Callie isn't smart enough to lie better. A Special Education teacher would never talk about parents that way.

Wow. Sure. And FCPS parents would never talk bad about a teacher. You are clueless.

Parents trash staff all the time on this forum and online. But You think staff only has positive things to say about parents? You are mistaken. Many parents are abusive to staff and if parents don’t get what they want, the parents attack, complain, sue, defame until they get their way. Even if they are wrong or not in compliance with special education laws. Many parents assume theworst of all staff and have no respect for staffs recommendations or judgement. And you think a “special education teacher would never talk about parents this way.” What parents do you know who are respectful and positive? Not many in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify whether she got electronic or physical records?

Asking again

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still would prefer to sue FCPS. Y’all might hate Callie but she is h to e only one shining a light on how terrible special Ed is and how gatehouse is a mess with data and lots of other things- like the whole due process thing where parents never won because the judges were on the FCPS payroll.

Nah, I'd sue Callie. FCPS was dumb in releasing the info and someone needs to get canned. But we wouldn't be here without Callie posting it on the Internet.

And you wouldn't know about the 100s of times a year FCPS accidentally releases your kids information either if Callie wouldn't be making such a big deal about this. FCPS does this ALL the time and never notifies parents. They either pretend it didn't happen, ask for the data back, or (in 99% of the cases) don't know it happened because no one tells them.

By making a big deal about thus, Callie is trying to get FCPS to FINALLY secure our kids data. You all should be thanking her, not suing her.

Don't believe me? Make a FOIA request yourself. FCPS routinely gives the wrong people's data in response. See what you get back.

How about you stop making FOIA requests to a system overburdened with requests from nutjobs like you, so they don't have to frantically work to release massive amounts of data, resulting in this mess? My kid's info wouldn't be out there if it weren't for your profoundly unethical decision to give it to the media instead of returning it to FCPS. The fact that you can't be prosecuted for it doesn't make you any less of a slime.

How about you get a life and a job? Then again, judging from your grammar, requesting donations on your website to mess with FCPS might be your most lucrative opportunity.

Not pp.

People have valid reasons to request information via foia and you are a lousy human being if you discourage parents from examining their children's information. This person you hate was right to make this a big deal of FCPS's failure to safeguard student information. It is a huge deal and that FCPS did it again makes it even worse. Here and there one of you nuts will say "both FCPS and Callie are wrong" but you aren't going after FCPS. Anyone who comments with reason is accused of being Callie. I'm accusing the worst of you of being FCPS lackeys who are upset about the trouble they are in for causing this problem. You know FCPS staff are going to try to smear her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about how one of the mods of the Fairfax SEPTA group was passionately defending her? I found it really inappropriate.

I saw that the other day and was disgusted.

Agree. SEPTA’s response (or lack thereof) of Callie’s actions is appalling. SEPTA and its leadership clearly support Callie, which is even more appalling. SEPTA leadership is a group of angry parents with extreme believes who just hate FCPS (and their own situations) more than they care about children and advocacy. They have no respect from me and the other special education parents I speak to. They are a group who places their agenda ahead of right versus wrong and speaking truth. They spread disinformation to confused parents looking for help. They are liars standing behind a veil of advocacy and victimhood.

No parent I know will openly say this about SEPTA unless they are protected by anonymity, because of fear of retaliation and legal action by SEPTA’s lunatic leadership.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Callie has deleted the information, what are you going to sue her for?

She can prove she deleted the information in a court of law.

Have all the people/organizations she shared the data with also deleted it?

Just curious. How does one prove they've deleted data? How does one prove they haven't made copies? How does one prove any of this?

You can't and the court can't make her.

Computer forensics. Tons of firms do it. A simple Google search would have taught you that.

If she wanted to, Callie could securely delete the in formation she has. But by now she’s shared it with enough people that the cat’s out of the bag.

Computer forensics? Oh you mean of the FCPS employees equipment so we know what was released?

No court on earth would put an innocent party through that. Remember Callie didn't do anythig illegal. As much as you want it to be, this isn't Russia sweetie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still would prefer to sue FCPS. Y’all might hate Callie but she is h to e only one shining a light on how terrible special Ed is and how gatehouse is a mess with data and lots of other things- like the whole due process thing where parents never won because the judges were on the FCPS payroll.

Nah, I'd sue Callie. FCPS was dumb in releasing the info and someone needs to get canned. But we wouldn't be here without Callie posting it on the Internet.

And you wouldn't know about the 100s of times a year FCPS accidentally releases your kids information either if Callie wouldn't be making such a big deal about this. FCPS does this ALL the time and never notifies parents. They either pretend it didn't happen, ask for the data back, or (in 99% of the cases) don't know it happened because no one tells them.

By making a big deal about thus, Callie is trying to get FCPS to FINALLY secure our kids data. You all should be thanking her, not suing her.

Don't believe me? Make a FOIA request yourself. FCPS routinely gives the wrong people's data in response. See what you get back.

How about you stop making FOIA requests to a system overburdened with requests from nutjobs like you, so they don't have to frantically work to release massive amounts of data, resulting in this mess? My kid's info wouldn't be out there if it weren't for your profoundly unethical decision to give it to the media instead of returning it to FCPS. The fact that you can't be prosecuted for it doesn't make you any less of a slime.

How about you get a life and a job? Then again, judging from your grammar, requesting donations on your website to mess with FCPS might be your most lucrative opportunity.

Not pp.

People have valid reasons to request information via foia and you are a lousy human being if you discourage parents from examining their children's information. This person you hate was right to make this a big deal of FCPS's failure to safeguard student information. It is a huge deal and that FCPS did it again makes it even worse. Here and there one of you nuts will say "both FCPS and Callie are wrong" but you aren't going after FCPS. Anyone who comments with reason is accused of being Callie. I'm accusing the worst of you of being FCPS lackeys who are upset about the trouble they are in for causing this problem. You know FCPS staff are going to try to smear her.

The whole breach aside, let's just examine the parent examining info issue: From the article I read, I think it said she spent 2-3 full days on site gathering data for this particular request on her children's data--with at least 2 staff people involved. Let's lowball this amount of time for this 1 request then to be 20 hours, so say for 2 people it's 40 work hours. It could be more, but I don't work for FCPS so I don't know. There are 180,000 students in FCPS. If every parent examine all their data that thoroughly and required that much attention-- my calculation is my lowball number would involve 7.2 million staff hours. And that's just for this particular request not for any prior ones made or any preparation needed.

I get that there are important individual parents' rights, but I think there also have to be more reasonable limits on demands for data if we want a functional system. It's just too easy for an individual to undermine the collective good in my opinion. If current law doesn't allow us to put in what we collectively think are reasonable limits, I think the law needs to be changed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has confirmed to me that most of my neighbors are flaming idiots and don’t understand how the Freedom of Information Acts works. Perhaps your kids are all suffering from anxiety because you’re their mom and completely disconnected from reality. Also, FCPS is corrupt and incompetent. As a former teacher, I can tell you that they’re all laughing at you. And this woman Callie exposed their weakness and you’re too stupid to figure it out.

Why do you feel need to start insulting others? Zero people are defending FCPS. We know their wrong doings. We’re talking about Callie. She could have been exposing the county, but decided to expose our children in the process. Shes just another angry white women and I hope she gets hers soon. Frankly, you just sound bitter and I’m glad you no longer work with the county.

That’s OK sweetheart. I’m making a ton of money off the fact that the school system closed its doors for over a year. Most of you don’t even realize that your kids are behind academically because you’re too afraid to see the truth. I see you. You’re just a basic, white, upper middle-class mom wearing Lululemon and drinking Starbucks coffee. And I get paid a lot of money per hour to fix what FCPS broke.

You describe yourself as someone who exploits parents instead of caring about children or doing the moral, ethical thing. You are what is wrong with the advocacy system. You are why professionals don’t want to work for school systems. You feed fear, lies, and disinformation to desperate families to make a buck or get publicity. You are a lousy, despicable person as are the other “advocates” I know. Absolutely horrific.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still would prefer to sue FCPS. Y’all might hate Callie but she is h to e only one shining a light on how terrible special Ed is and how gatehouse is a mess with data and lots of other things- like the whole due process thing where parents never won because the judges were on the FCPS payroll.

Nah, I'd sue Callie. FCPS was dumb in releasing the info and someone needs to get canned. But we wouldn't be here without Callie posting it on the Internet.

And you wouldn't know about the 100s of times a year FCPS accidentally releases your kids information either if Callie wouldn't be making such a big deal about this. FCPS does this ALL the time and never notifies parents. They either pretend it didn't happen, ask for the data back, or (in 99% of the cases) don't know it happened because no one tells them.

By making a big deal about thus, Callie is trying to get FCPS to FINALLY secure our kids data. You all should be thanking her, not suing her.

Don't believe me? Make a FOIA request yourself. FCPS routinely gives the wrong people's data in response. See what you get back.

How about you stop making FOIA requests to a system overburdened with requests from nutjobs like you, so they don't have to frantically work to release massive amounts of data, resulting in this mess? My kid's info wouldn't be out there if it weren't for your profoundly unethical decision to give it to the media instead of returning it to FCPS. The fact that you can't be prosecuted for it doesn't make you any less of a slime.

How about you get a life and a job? Then again, judging from your grammar, requesting donations on your website to mess with FCPS might be your most lucrative opportunity.

Not pp.

People have valid reasons to request information via foia and you are a lousy human being if you discourage parents from examining their children's information. This person you hate was right to make this a big deal of FCPS's failure to safeguard student information. It is a huge deal and that FCPS did it again makes it even worse. Here and there one of you nuts will say "both FCPS and Callie are wrong" but you aren't going after FCPS. Anyone who comments with reason is accused of being Callie. I'm accusing the worst of you of being FCPS lackeys who are upset about the trouble they are in for causing this problem. You know FCPS staff are going to try to smear her.

The whole breach aside, let's just examine the parent examining info issue: From the article I read, I think it said she spent 2-3 full days on site gathering data for this particular request on her children's data--with at least 2 staff people involved. Let's lowball this amount of time for this 1 request then to be 20 hours, so say for 2 people it's 40 work hours. It could be more, but I don't work for FCPS so I don't know. There are 180,000 students in FCPS. If every parent examine all their data that thoroughly and required that much attention-- my calculation is my lowball number would involve 7.2 million staff hours. And that's just for this particular request not for any prior ones made or any preparation needed.

I get that there are important individual parents' rights, but I think there also have to be more reasonable limits on demands for data if we want a functional system. It's just too easy for an individual to undermine the collective good in my opinion. If current law doesn't allow us to put in what we collectively think are reasonable limits, I think the law needs to be changed.

Exactly. Callie and parents/advocates like her waste staff resources and time in so many ways that takes away from quality education for all. Requests for records, requests for multiple IEP meetings per year with lots of professionals and PSL, requests for multiple/repeat assessments, and so on. And the school has to go along or the parent/advocate will file a complaint, sue, or defamate school staff publicly. These parents/advocates create a huge waste of all tax payer dollars for a very small group of students. They take time, money, resources from other students and say they are entitled to things that are way beyond reasonable. Nothing will change until more parents stand up against the unreasonable, exploitive behaviors.

[Anonymous]

I'm a college student. Just finished my last finals, I get home from break, and the letter that welcomed me back to Fairfax was telling me my IEP was published. I just found out today, I have very little idea what information has been published. I just wanted a break, but now I'm playing muckraker trying to find out wtf is going on. Reminds me of what a great time high school was. (I hated everything about it) Anyone have any tips?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a college student. Just finished my last finals, I get home from break, and the letter that welcomed me back to Fairfax was telling me my IEP was published. I just found out today, I have very little idea what information has been published. I just wanted a break, but now I'm playing muckraker trying to find out wtf is going on. Reminds me of what a great time high school was. (I hated everything about it) Anyone have any tips?

Most likely the information was not published. Fcps gave it to a parent, who posted online about receiving the information, totaled by category of information.

If you are Susie Q with a dyslexia IEP, the parent did not post that information with your name. She posted that information as "16 IEPs for dyslexia were leaked"

I hope that helps you to relax a little on your break

[Anonymous]

that answer is horse manure and guano dung

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has confirmed to me that most of my neighbors are flaming idiots and don’t understand how the Freedom of Information Acts works. Perhaps your kids are all suffering from anxiety because you’re their mom and completely disconnected from reality. Also, FCPS is corrupt and incompetent. As a former teacher, I can tell you that they’re all laughing at you. And this woman Callie exposed their weakness and you’re too stupid to figure it out.

Why do you feel need to start insulting others? Zero people are defending FCPS. We know their wrong doings. We’re talking about Callie. She could have been exposing the county, but decided to expose our children in the process. Shes just another angry white women and I hope she gets hers soon. Frankly, you just sound bitter and I’m glad you no longer work with the county.

That’s OK sweetheart. I’m making a ton of money off the fact that the school system closed its doors for over a year. Most of you don’t even realize that your kids are behind academically because you’re too afraid to see the truth. I see you. You’re just a basic, white, upper middle-class mom wearing Lululemon and drinking Starbucks coffee. And I get paid a lot of money per hour to fix what FCPS broke.

WTF is wrong with you? You interact with children? That’s scary.

[Anonymous]

FCPS already sued her once and lost.

I don’t like it either but FCPS makes the same mistakes over and over? Read this:

https://specialeducationaction.com/fairfax-county-public-schools-sands-anderson-and-blankingship-keith-breach-privacy-during-due-process/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS already sued her once and lost.

I don’t like it either but FCPS makes the same mistakes over and over? Read this:

https://specialeducationaction.com/fairfax-county-public-schools-sands-anderson-and-blankingship-keith-breach-privacy-during-due-process/

Imagine having a school system sue you. She’s so vile.