Fairfax County Double Murder

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where Juliana was arrested? Was it at the house?

I wonder if he was simultaneously put on leave and if it was his job issued car that was being examined on 10/13 (what neighbors described seeing in a WS post).

Yes, she was arrested at the house on 1013

She was arrested walking back to the house from the bus stop.

Interesting, thanks. LE seems very focused on the wellbeing of the child so I knew it would be planned to go down when she was not there.

Anyone know if Brendan was present? Wonder if she thought it was immigration related at first?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad there had been other posts about this because I know he tries to project this squeaky clean image that just isn't true. He is manipulative and a liar, albeit maybe not the brightest. Here's hoping LE can unravel this case properly and bring him in.

There were several in the vein of that one and yours on the earlier thread. May be gone now. Posts no longer on WS spoke of his character similarly, and his actions really say it all.

I hope they are able to make a strong case stick.

[Anonymous]

Lying to LE, then refusing to cooperate in a case involving the death of your wife, mom or your daughter, as LE yourself, seems to speak to his character imo.

[Anonymous]

mom of your daughter

[Anonymous]

I noticed that the former au pair (Amanda) and C's sister have not "liked" any of BB's mothers posts since this tragedy (Amanda did like some of her posts before Feb). C's sister is liking Amanda's posts about grief/losing C.

This poor family

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

She could be a 23 year old pistol packing nanny, but it’s very unlikely.
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From a fetish or kink hypothesis based off where it’s speculated CB/JR met. Could AP/BB restrain CB until JR arrived and that’s when things unfold.
AP comes home, fires upon JR. BB enters home, follows through with CB and injuries himself during this or earlier when restraining CB.
First botched 911 call while realizing a need to sort stories and stage the scene, then the final call.

Agree with almost all of this. I also think CB was incapacitated, tied up or drugged or maybe both, it would make it all easier for the killers.

I think the first call was hung up when they realized CB was still alive.

I think BB wanted to claim he was the shooter because his service weapon was used. Obviously, if LE is certain he was not there, then he left it for AP. And forensics could tie his weapon to murder of JR. Wondering when/where he taught her to shoot well enough? JR was fit and into martial arts, he had to be killed quickly to be controlled. If the affair started when she extended in October, how quickly did they start planning to murder CB? Absolutely chilling.

I would not be surprised if BB injured himself to add "cred" to their tall tales.

I don't totally get why he could not have arrived and shot JR in the telling, matching presence with story. Why did he wait to arrive until after shooting? Same story of AP seeing him stab, shooting, could have been true for him. Why did he delay? Was it the plan or was he getting cold feet? It was also a risk if the AP could not kill/control JR quickly, better to have BB present for backup, yet, he was not.

Would've been easier for AP to stab CB if CB was still asleep (given time of day this occurred). Then call JR over .....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If BB did marry the au pair, would she be made to testify against him?

I am definitely not an expert, but I thought that it cannot be claimed if one spouse attacks the other spouse or child, if there is violence against a third person involved in the potential breakup of their marriage etc, or if it involves the divorce. I’m assuming it depends on the state. So this situation would be category 2, i suppose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She could be a 23 year old pistol packing nanny, but it’s very unlikely.
————
From a fetish or kink hypothesis based off where it’s speculated CB/JR met. Could AP/BB restrain CB until JR arrived and that’s when things unfold.
AP comes home, fires upon JR. BB enters home, follows through with CB and injuries himself during this or earlier when restraining CB.
First botched 911 call while realizing a need to sort stories and stage the scene, then the final call.

Agree with almost all of this. I also think CB was incapacitated, tied up or drugged or maybe both, it would make it all easier for the killers.

I think the first call was hung up when they realized CB was still alive.

I think BB wanted to claim he was the shooter because his service weapon was used. Obviously, if LE is certain he was not there, then he left it for AP. And forensics could tie his weapon to murder of JR. Wondering when/where he taught her to shoot well enough? JR was fit and into martial arts, he had to be killed quickly to be controlled. If the affair started when she extended in October, how quickly did they start planning to murder CB? Absolutely chilling.

I would not be surprised if BB injured himself to add "cred" to their tall tales.

I don't totally get why he could not have arrived and shot JR in the telling, matching presence with story. Why did he wait to arrive until after shooting? Same story of AP seeing him stab, shooting, could have been true for him. Why did he delay? Was it the plan or was he getting cold feet? It was also a risk if the AP could not kill/control JR quickly, better to have BB present for backup, yet, he was not.

Would've been easier for AP to stab CB if CB was still asleep (given time of day this occurred). Then call JR over .....

With that logic if JR was home in Springfield, CB wouldn’t survived his 40 minute commute to Herndon at 7am

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, how do you go from this to being stabbing to death with your preschooler in the house? I mean it is so hard to fathom. Married just under 13 years.

https://www.instagram.com/p/27DNwhiQU9/

https://www.instagram.com/p/25nc8iiQSM/

https://www.instagram.com/p/3zFtGICQRB/

Most of the women who end up dead or abused in their marriages had pretty pictures and optimistic hopes for what their future would turn out to be. Then things got complicated when "he" wanted X activities, or the finances were a mess, or the kids were stressing them,.... etc. Things can look pretty from the outside, and not be so nice on the inside.

She must have had clues there was something very wrong with him. And clues there was something going on with ap. I noticed she does not feature in posts.

Christine was middle aged, an equal, into fitness and positivity.

The au pair was like dating a teen. Was this all midlife crisis?

If they had stayed on LI, near family, would he never have gone off the rails? How could someone be capable of doing that then just go on, riding bike around neighborhood and tooling around in his new car and taking his girlfriend and her "assets" out to eat like Christine and Joe never existed?

police officers are notorious for being able to play different roles and turn on one personality for one situation and another personality for another. That's what being under cover is all about.

I used to intern in the US Atty office and there were A LOT of police officers who wanted to pick up the latest interns -- all college students. They lived with odd work hours, so it was easy to hide their shennanigans. They all had lines like "so, do you miss your boyfriend?" to find out if you had a boyfriend - - or wanted one. They are players. BB wasn't a true police officer, but I'm sure he liked to think he was some macho man... and if you put a 22 yr old hottie in reach ... well....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She could be a 23 year old pistol packing nanny, but it’s very unlikely.
————
From a fetish or kink hypothesis based off where it’s speculated CB/JR met. Could AP/BB restrain CB until JR arrived and that’s when things unfold.
AP comes home, fires upon JR. BB enters home, follows through with CB and injuries himself during this or earlier when restraining CB.
First botched 911 call while realizing a need to sort stories and stage the scene, then the final call.

Agree with almost all of this. I also think CB was incapacitated, tied up or drugged or maybe both, it would make it all easier for the killers.

I think the first call was hung up when they realized CB was still alive.

I think BB wanted to claim he was the shooter because his service weapon was used. Obviously, if LE is certain he was not there, then he left it for AP. And forensics could tie his weapon to murder of JR. Wondering when/where he taught her to shoot well enough? JR was fit and into martial arts, he had to be killed quickly to be controlled. If the affair started when she extended in October, how quickly did they start planning to murder CB? Absolutely chilling.

I would not be surprised if BB injured himself to add "cred" to their tall tales.

I don't totally get why he could not have arrived and shot JR in the telling, matching presence with story. Why did he wait to arrive until after shooting? Same story of AP seeing him stab, shooting, could have been true for him. Why did he delay? Was it the plan or was he getting cold feet? It was also a risk if the AP could not kill/control JR quickly, better to have BB present for backup, yet, he was not.

Would've been easier for AP to stab CB if CB was still asleep (given time of day this occurred). Then call JR over .....

Stabbing will wake you up.

She was not charged with stabbing. Christine may have been able to overpower her. So she was the shooter and it was JR who had to be shot to set up the stabbing, home invader false tale.

Often the number of kills = # of perps for a code of silence, think Robert Wone, 3 other people in house, 3 stabs, here 2 other people in the house, she's the shooter per LE (and I bet they have some strong evidence that shots fired when BB not there), so that leaves one crime, stabbing and one person not yet charged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I noticed that the former au pair (Amanda) and C's sister have not "liked" any of BB's mothers posts since this tragedy (Amanda did like some of her posts before Feb). C's sister is liking Amanda's posts about grief/losing C.

This poor family

and they have to be in touch to be in touch with the child, cannot imagine

CB's brother often responds to TB's posts. maybe he volunteered to take that on to spare his family

i doubt there will be developments for a while. juliana has to be softened up.

if she thinks BB cannot offer her a future or support then she may flip to get out of the mess. they may offer time served and deported with a suspended sentence or something. i think her mom drawing so much attention to it all in brazil may come back to bite her. she at least will not skate but she may have been able to move on, in another country. the moms of her and BB are not really helping their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I noticed that the former au pair (Amanda) and C's sister have not "liked" any of BB's mothers posts since this tragedy (Amanda did like some of her posts before Feb). C's sister is liking Amanda's posts about grief/losing C.

This poor family

and they have to be in touch to be in touch with the child, cannot imagine

CB's brother often responds to TB's posts. maybe he volunteered to take that on to spare his family

i doubt there will be developments for a while. juliana has to be softened up.

if she thinks BB cannot offer her a future or support then she may flip to get out of the mess. they may offer time served and deported with a suspended sentence or something. i think her mom drawing so much attention to it all in brazil may come back to bite her. she at least will not skate but she may have been able to move on, in another country. the moms of her and BB are not really helping their kids.

CB has a brother?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is exactly why I never wanted an Au Pair.

We just had a horrible first time au pair experience and fired her and dropped the agency. I was angry at losing the Hoge placement fee to the agancy (bc they completely misrepresented the au pair - she didn’t have the skills they said she had and she had mental health issues that the agency knew about), but I keep thinking maybe we dodged a bullet?

You just bad luck. We have only had positive experiences with our au pairs.

We also had a terrible experience. We used one of the more expensive agencies that specializes in au pairs that are slightly older with some work experience. But she had criiplojng anxiety and could barely leave the house. From talking to lots of friends and neighbors with au pairs, it seems like about 25% are super great, 50% are okay/fine/some issues, and 25% are just terrible or have significant issues.

I'm the PP who posted earlier about a horrible au pair experience. We also used one of the most expensive agencies that specializes in older au pairs and au pairs w/ specialized experience (speech therapy, etc.). Our au pair proved to have zero experience and crippling social anxiety to the point she wouldn't take the kids anywhere. I wonder if we used the same agency?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

She could be a 23 year old pistol packing nanny, but it’s very unlikely.
————
From a fetish or kink hypothesis based off where it’s speculated CB/JR met. Could AP/BB restrain CB until JR arrived and that’s when things unfold.
AP comes home, fires upon JR. BB enters home, follows through with CB and injuries himself during this or earlier when restraining CB.
First botched 911 call while realizing a need to sort stories and stage the scene, then the final call.

Agree with almost all of this. I also think CB was incapacitated, tied up or drugged or maybe both, it would make it all easier for the killers.

I think the first call was hung up when they realized CB was still alive.

I think BB wanted to claim he was the shooter because his service weapon was used. Obviously, if LE is certain he was not there, then he left it for AP. And forensics could tie his weapon to murder of JR. Wondering when/where he taught her to shoot well enough? JR was fit and into martial arts, he had to be killed quickly to be controlled. If the affair started when she extended in October, how quickly did they start planning to murder CB? Absolutely chilling.

I would not be surprised if BB injured himself to add "cred" to their tall tales.

I don't totally get why he could not have arrived and shot JR in the telling, matching presence with story. Why did he wait to arrive until after shooting? Same story of AP seeing him stab, shooting, could have been true for him. Why did he delay? Was it the plan or was he getting cold feet? It was also a risk if the AP could not kill/control JR quickly, better to have BB present for backup, yet, he was not.

This is what fundamentally doesn't make sense to me. If he took the fall because she used his weapon, why would they plan it that way? They wouldn't. They'd have him do the shooting (one less lie and less likely to go wrong given his fire arms experience)... more than that, they'd *definitely* have him be home. It doesn't make any sense the way it unfolded. Something went badly wrong and we just don't have enough info to know what that was yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is the daughter now? I hope she is safe and not with BB.

She is with him and likely will be unless and until he is charged himself.

LE wouldn’t leave her with him, would they? My god where is her maternal family?