"Opening up" means risking your life

[Anonymous]

Customers shot 2 McDonald's employees in Oklahoma City after being told to leave due to coronavirus restrictions
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/06/us/mcdonalds-employees-shot-coronavirus/index.html

[Anonymous]

Reopened restaurant told workers: Don't wear face masks — or don't work
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-masks-coverings-dallas-restaurant-workers-coronavirus/

[Anonymous]

Reopen and live. It’s not an either or situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there's no magic pot of money for perpetual government assistance. High unemployment and prolonged lockdowns will cause civil unrest. You don't care about job losses because you can afford to hunker down in your comfortable house with your adequate savings while millions suffer.

Mortality rate less than 2%. We have ramped up our medical preparedness, and there are empty beds and unused ventilators even in "hotspots". Drug overdoses, suicide, influenza, heart disease, cancer kill more people annually. Crazy anti-vaxxers will never immunize. We need herd immunity to squelch the virus, not hiding in our homes.

The WHO is in China's pocket, the director is corrupt. If they are squealing about funding, let China fund them. China pays about 10% of what we pay the WHO, and they can afford more.

Since you had to make it about Trump, I'll flip the script. This plan to control everyone's movements, make people dependent on government payouts, and destroy civil liberties is a leftist wet dream. Don't pretend you're not enjoying this.

So I guess everyone being dead from the virus is a Trump/GOP wet dream, then?

No, 2% doesn’t come close to equaling everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there's no magic pot of money for perpetual government assistance. High unemployment and prolonged lockdowns will cause civil unrest. You don't care about job losses because you can afford to hunker down in your comfortable house with your adequate savings while millions suffer.

Mortality rate less than 2%. We have ramped up our medical preparedness, and there are empty beds and unused ventilators even in "hotspots". Drug overdoses, suicide, influenza, heart disease, cancer kill more people annually. Crazy anti-vaxxers will never immunize. We need herd immunity to squelch the virus, not hiding in our homes.

The WHO is in China's pocket, the director is corrupt. If they are squealing about funding, let China fund them. China pays about 10% of what we pay the WHO, and they can afford more.

Since you had to make it about Trump, I'll flip the script. This plan to control everyone's movements, make people dependent on government payouts, and destroy civil liberties is a leftist wet dream. Don't pretend you're not enjoying this.

So I guess everyone being dead from the virus is a Trump/GOP wet dream, then?

No, 2% doesn’t come close to equaling everyone.

My gosh. PP really is a drama queen.
And, there is no doubt that the final stat will be well under 2%. Probably even under 1%.

[Anonymous]

So if its just a flu, then why this?

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/05/06/coronavirus-survivors-banned-from-joining-the-military/

And more concerning, what does the US Military know that isn't being disclosed to the public?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reopened restaurant told workers: Don't wear face masks — or don't work
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-masks-coverings-dallas-restaurant-workers-coronavirus/

Well as a potential customer, I wouldn't support that restaurant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there's no magic pot of money for perpetual government assistance. High unemployment and prolonged lockdowns will cause civil unrest. You don't care about job losses because you can afford to hunker down in your comfortable house with your adequate savings while millions suffer.

Mortality rate less than 2%. We have ramped up our medical preparedness, and there are empty beds and unused ventilators even in "hotspots". Drug overdoses, suicide, influenza, heart disease, cancer kill more people annually. Crazy anti-vaxxers will never immunize. We need herd immunity to squelch the virus, not hiding in our homes.

The WHO is in China's pocket, the director is corrupt. If they are squealing about funding, let China fund them. China pays about 10% of what we pay the WHO, and they can afford more.

Since you had to make it about Trump, I'll flip the script. This plan to control everyone's movements, make people dependent on government payouts, and destroy civil liberties is a leftist wet dream. Don't pretend you're not enjoying this.

So I guess everyone being dead from the virus is a Trump/GOP wet dream, then?

No, 2% doesn’t come close to equaling everyone.

My gosh. PP really is a drama queen.
And, there is no doubt that the final stat will be well under 2%. Probably even under 1%.

So probably only 10 times as deadly as the flu. That is what you are saying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if its just a flu, then why this?

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/05/06/coronavirus-survivors-banned-from-joining-the-military/

And more concerning, what does the US Military know that isn't being disclosed to the public?

So what about the hundreds of sailors on the Teddy Roosevelt - as well as Capt Crozier? Are they going to all be drummed out for having had the virus?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginia is counting the same positives three times. Person has Covid. Positive 1. Person has Covid on retest Covid 2. Person has Covid on third retest, positive 3

It takes a while to clear a virus on testing. This is not three separate people testing positive.

No. Virginia is counting that as one positive case, one unique person tested and three tests total. You can see the information reported that way on the website.

It hit the news yesterday morning. I have no doubt they changed their site

[Anonymous]

Confirmed cases for DC: 5654 , deaths 285
Maryland: 29374, deaths 1404
Virginia 21570, deaths 796

All of these are higher than .2%

Do the math yourself
If you want to get creative, count the deaths per number of people admitted to a hospital

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Confirmed cases for DC: 5654 , deaths 285
Maryland: 29374, deaths 1404
Virginia 21570, deaths 796

All of these are higher than .2%

Do the math yourself
If you want to get creative, count the deaths per number of people admitted to a hospital

Assume the cases are at least 10x the reported

For normal folks it's less than .2% For folks with more than 1 chronic condition it's probably higher but not by much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Confirmed cases for DC: 5654 , deaths 285
Maryland: 29374, deaths 1404
Virginia 21570, deaths 796

All of these are higher than .2%

Do the math yourself
If you want to get creative, count the deaths per number of people admitted to a hospital

Assume the cases are at least 10x the reported

For normal folks it's less than .2% For folks with more than 1 chronic condition it's probably higher but not by much.

How do hospitals in the DMV fair if 2% of the population need a hospital bed at the same time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Statistics don't agree with this statement that it is devastating to most people.....

"Amid concerns over the coronavirus pandemic, it’s important to remember the vast majority of those infected experience mild symptoms and recover from the illness."

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/488997-more-than-100000-people-have-recovered-from-the

You say this - STILL - after 70k dead in about 6-7 weeks - THREE TIMES A FLU SEASON IN ONE THIRD THE TIME - AND WITH A LOCKDOWN

And not all "survivors" are created equally. Some will be affected -- for who knows how long. Others are just sort of sitting around intubated until they kick it.

You lot are complaining because your life just can't go on as normal and those old people and pre-existing conditions people are just inconveniencing you from living your real life. Why don't they just all stay at home so the rest of us Real Americans can get on with living.

And I bet the 90% majority of the OPEN UP NOW SNOWFLAKES crowd think they're pro-life.

Dems are happy to butcher people in the womb and consider it progress.

Republicans are happy to butcher people once they become a hassle. That's considered progress because it helps The Trump get re-elected.

This saddens me.

A good number of those who died were nursing home patients. A lock down is not going to prevent that unless those giving care are not allowed in.
Gov. DeSantis took action that other governors should have taken. He knew who the vulnerable were and targeted prevention toward that population.

Just so you know... I am part of the vulnerable population. I am not being terribly inconvenienced. I believe this nation needs to open.
I will continue to take precautions to protect myself... staying home more than normal, wearing a mask, washing my hands, and keeping my hands away from my face.
There are ways to open our nation with minimal risk. Time to do that.

Your first sentence minimizes them - oh they were nursing home patients. So of course they were going to die.

And if people die, they die - that seems to be your overall attitude.

Or let's try this.

Dems - would you accept a death toll of 100k and a return to relative prosperity by October if it meant four more years of Trump?

Republicans - would you accept a death toll of 300k by October and Trump losing 1980 style if it meant we could open up Swedish style and turn unemployment from 20% to 10-11%?

[Anonymous]

My point being - not all at-risk people get to stay at home like you do.

and even if we just "open up" folks won't come roaring back.