Greendland - why not?
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Anonymous
This is DCUM, the “hand wringing” and “pearl clutching” have no bounds. How many of you “chicken littles” have sold every US financial asset you have and converted to Euros? Because thats what you should be doing if you believe the nonsense spouted on this board. Also, get that house up for sale immediately, spring market is here. |
Anonymous
From what bases will you fly f-35s? How will you refuel them? The f-35 is not a long range aircraft - 500 miles round trip. You will not be able to bring carriers up there. The UK has nuclear subs, anti ship missiles and anti aircraft. You can’t use bases in the UK or Europe. Canada is out. Good luck. The US has not fought a war against a first world power in a long time. Specially against one that will know everything there is to know about US capabilities. You a f’ing crazy. You want to go to war against Europe? |
Anonymous
You people are f’ing insane. |
Anonymous
+1 We weren't even successful in Afghanistan! This is batsh*t. |
Anonymous
Amazing to have lived long enough to see a bunch of rich people and morons, unaware that the postwar order had made them safe, secure and prosperous, light that order on fire because they had to sit through a workplace diversity and harassment training. |
Anonymous
I did a pretty good chunk in March when the writing was on the wall. Has worked out pretty well so far. |
Anonymous
Well, better finish it off, the end is near. Trump speaks tomorrow at Davos, who knows what he will say. US financial markets closed by the of the week. |
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Danish Member of Parliament to Donald Trump: "Mr. President, f@ck off."
Then they told him cursing is naughty. Man, it’s inspiring seeing how a real country runs. |
Anonymous
Oh, yes, sorry..we should definitely listen to THE MORONS THAT VOTED AGAIN FOR A TRAITOROUS PEDOPHILE THAT BANKRUPTED EVERY BUSINESS HE HAS EVER RUN. |
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I was talking to inside the beltway types of folks who are very tuned into international affairs. They tried to give me the most unbiased take they could on what's going on and how they think the current admin views the world.
First, global order has already been upended for years. China already expanded by building artifical islands in the SCS along with their 9 dash line claims. China has a strategy of trying to control all shipping and trade from China, to Europe, to Africa - see the strand of pearls theory. Russia has also upended global order years ago due to obvious reasons. So who is left playing by rules? The west, including the US. What did the world do as China illegally expanded in the SCS with their artificial islands? Nothing. What did the rest of the world do about Ukraine except the US? Pretty much nothing. If Russia and China get to ignore all the rules, then so should the US. With respect to Greenland/Europe, they pretty much summarized Europe down to 3 things: soccer, socialism, and site seeing. The point they were trying to make was that Europe is basically worthless from both a military strategic and economic standpoint. Europe was described as basically a museum. For decades Europe has refused to fund and maintain an adequate military. Europe has socialist tendencies that are strangling innovation and their economy. AI is going nowhere in Europe while China and the US are accelerating integration into the economy at breakneck speeds. Europe's economy is going to be left in the dust over the next 50 years. They also pointed out that Europe is anemic when it comes to starting companies, which is why they basically don't even have a European version of the S&P 500 - because they're incapble of starting that many companies due to overtaxing socialist policies and regulations smothering them. To summarize, world order has already been fragmented years ago with expansionist and rising China and the Russia invasion of Ukraine. US has to accept it and live in a multipolar world. Europe is useless due to lack of military and because all economics are moving east. US has to accept the multipolar world and make hard adjustments. China can do whatever they want in their sphere and Russia as well, as long as they both stay the F outta our backyard (i.e., the Americas). That's why you see so much attention about securing Greenland. |
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Trump allowed China to build those islands and he pulled out of the TPP, which would have been a constraint on China.
Yes, Europe is old and socialist, but they are also one of the USA's biggest markets and holders of US debt. Alienating Europe is somewhere between hurting and devastating to the US economy, if it were on a scale. |
Anonymous
It's frightening to see such misinformation from supposed Beltway experts. First, what the hell does Greenland have to do with China's ambitions in the South China Sea? Nobody has provided any evidence that China wants to invade/control territory outside of its immediate geographic neighborhood, especially Greenland. Yes, it has global economic interests and attempts to sway the developing world, just like very other major power. As the Chinese stated this morning, using China as an excuse to invade Greenland is simply covering up Trump's personal amibitions with a fig leaf. As far as Europe's status, they have the third largest GDP in the world, accounting for 1/6 of the global economy. Quite a statement to say they are "worthless", especially when you look at the dollar compared to the Euro since Trump took office. If this is the caliber of Stephen Miller's foreign affairs team, we really are screwed. |
Anonymous
On left, right, center show the other day, they described it like this - trump is like a gang of mafia guy. He sees a corner of the neighborhood that isn’t his, and isn’t the rival gangs. So he thinks he has to control it, or the other gang will. Or maybe a better ability is a food truck owner. You have to stake your claim on a certain block, can’t have two hot dog trucks in 6 feet of each other. Remember, we elected an idiot with no knowledge of politics or world history. |
Anonymous
lol No one “tuned in” to international affairs agrees with this dribble. Your ignorance is only rivaled by your gullibility. |
Anonymous
China and Russia have been militarizing the Arctic for years already. China expansion in SCS and the world does nothing. Then point they were trying to make is that it China is allowed to expand using security excuses, then so should the US. No one is playing by the rules anymore, basically. |