Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

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Frankly, I care much less about this loser than I do the Jewish American that will hopefully be returned by Hamas, along with four dead bodies. Let's protest for this return. He's actually an American.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I care much less about this loser than I do the Jewish American that will hopefully be returned by Hamas, along with four dead bodies. Let's protest for this return. He's actually an American.

Why not care about both? Elimination of this guy's civil liberties will impact you even if you think his politics suck.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I care much less about this loser than I do the Jewish American that will hopefully be returned by Hamas, along with four dead bodies. Let's protest for this return. He's actually an American.

Why not care about both? Elimination of this guy's civil liberties will impact you even if you think his politics suck.

They won't, because you'd never find me organizing an event to promote a terrorist organization. Especially if I wasn't born here and was fortunate to have procured a green card. I'd be protecting that thing like the gold it is.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I care much less about this loser than I do the Jewish American that will hopefully be returned by Hamas, along with four dead bodies. Let's protest for this return. He's actually an American.

Why not care about both? Elimination of this guy's civil liberties will impact you even if you think his politics suck.

They won't, because you'd never find me organizing an event to promote a terrorist organization. Especially if I wasn't born here and was fortunate to have procured a green card. I'd be protecting that thing like the gold it is.

Exactly, common sense. Plus after being married to a U.S. citizen after about 3 years he could apply for citizenship. Now he can go fight for Syria's terrorists.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I care much less about this loser than I do the Jewish American that will hopefully be returned by Hamas, along with four dead bodies. Let's protest for this return. He's actually an American.

Why not care about both? Elimination of this guy's civil liberties will impact you even if you think his politics suck.

Given that most of the people arguing that he is losing civil liberties unfairly are quite happy to suppress the civil liberties of other, actual Americans they politically disagree with, it’s hard to take your concern seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:What does it mean to "support Hamas?"
Pledging allegience to Hamas would certainly count.
Transferring money to "Hamas Inc." via wire transfer would count.
Saying "I think Hamas' actions are justified" seems like a grey area.

Saying I want a cease fire and think Israel is committing genocide doesn't necessarily equate to "supporting Hamas." Did Hamas even want a cease-fire? Certainly on their terms, but that applies to any belligerent. For all we know he might hate Hamas and prefer the PLO or some other organization.

What evidence is there that the student "supported Hamas?" Merely asking for a ceasefire or asking Columbia to divest, would not seem to qualify as "supporting terrorism."

How 'bout this (which I posted earlier)?

Khalil acted as a negotiator and sometimes spokesperson for CUAD (Columbia University Apartheid Divest).

CUAD explicitly and officially issued a statement supporting Hamas and 10/7. As quoted in the Times:

“We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance,” the group, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, said in its statement revoking the apology.

The group marked the anniversary of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by distributing a newspaper with a headline that used Hamas’s name for it: “One Year Since Al-Aqsa Flood, Revolution Until Victory,” it read, over a picture of Hamas fighters breaching the security fence to Israel. And the group posted an essay calling the attack a “moral, military and political victory” and quoting Ismail Haniyeh, the assassinated former political leader of Hamas.

“The Palestinian resistance is moving their struggle to a new phase of escalation and it is our duty to meet them there,” the group wrote on Oct. 7 on Telegram. “It is our duty to fight for our freedom!”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/nyregion/c...ian-group-hamas.html

Exactly. This guy wasn’t just walking around with a cardboard sign reading “Cease Fire.”

So, if a South African living in the US with a green card during the 80s supported Nelson Mandela and the ANC, should he have been deported back to South Africa? Mandela and the ANC were considered terrorists until 2008.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-government-considered-nelson-mandela-terrorist-until-2008-flna2d11708787

DP. Let's make the hypothetical match the current situation:

How 'bout if our imaginary South African issued a statement supporting murdering white South African civilians en masse and calling for the destruction of western civilization (as CUAD has done)?

Deportable?

Probably not if he's white.

Also, a lot of Irish Americans supported and even funded and provided arms to the IRA, a terrorist organization. They weren't deported either. Why? Cause they are white people.

You are comparing citizen rights to immigrant rights, which is not at all the same for good reason. And you are wrong. Sinn Fein leaders have been denied visas to the US due to their IRA ties, and denied green cards. It is our policy not to harbor violent extremists of any cause, and it’s a good one.
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/sinn-feins-ohare-denied-visa-for-trip-to-capitol-hill/26208677.html

Green card immigrants for have rights and protection.
Uh oh, Trump goofed and now needs you apologists to smoke-and-mirrors for him

Can you try that again, in English this time? We don't speak transliterated Arabic here.

Green-card-holding permanent-resident immigrants have rights and protection, you ignorant idiot racist.

They are literally called "resident aliens".

And they still have rights and legal protections.

And need to obey our country's laws.

What law did he break? How precisely did he break it?

Oh, c’mon, you don’t actually expect these liars fellating one another over this story to provide actual facts, right?

You’re dealing with pathological liars. They don’t operate on the basis of facts. It’s all propaganda and projection.

Nice try, lol. He didn't have to break any law. Under a provision of the US Immigration and Nationality Act, a law passed in 1952, any immigrants may be deported if the secretary of state deems their presence in the country potentially adverse to American foreign policy. He broke the provisions of his Green Card status. He festered hatred toward a certain group under the guise of activism which is a hate crime. Aligning with terrorist, and all he did met the requirements of deportation. In March he will go before an immigration judge for a deportation hearing.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I care much less about this loser than I do the Jewish American that will hopefully be returned by Hamas, along with four dead bodies. Let's protest for this return. He's actually an American.

Why not care about both? Elimination of this guy's civil liberties will impact you even if you think his politics suck.

They won't, because you'd never find me organizing an event to promote a terrorist organization. Especially if I wasn't born here and was fortunate to have procured a green card. I'd be protecting that thing like the gold it is.

This. Act like an obnoxious bully, reap the consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I care much less about this loser than I do the Jewish American that will hopefully be returned by Hamas, along with four dead bodies. Let's protest for this return. He's actually an American.

You’re a moron if you think Jews are safer under a system where Trump gets to persecute whoever he wants regardless of the law.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I care much less about this loser than I do the Jewish American that will hopefully be returned by Hamas, along with four dead bodies. Let's protest for this return. He's actually an American.

You’re a moron if you think Jews are safer under a system where Trump gets to persecute whoever he wants regardless of the law.

Nobody here is being persecuted regardless of the law. The hysterics are ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Can I get a non-partisan response to my question and that is, are there conditions to having a green card?

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I care much less about this loser than I do the Jewish American that will hopefully be returned by Hamas, along with four dead bodies. Let's protest for this return. He's actually an American.

You’re a moron if you think Jews are safer under a system where Trump gets to persecute whoever he wants regardless of the law.

+1

But they are morons

Or they are plants. Every time someone brings up the fact that those who support Ukrainians will get the same treatment, it gets buried under endless posts about dead babies.

Hmmm...

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I care much less about this loser than I do the Jewish American that will hopefully be returned by Hamas, along with four dead bodies. Let's protest for this return. He's actually an American.

You’re a moron if you think Jews are safer under a system where Trump gets to persecute whoever he wants regardless of the law.

Nobody here is being persecuted regardless of the law. The hysterics are ridiculous.

I'm sure you'll applaud when Ukrainians who have done nothing to us get deported just because papa Trump is a Russian asset and tells you to.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I get a non-partisan response to my question and that is, are there conditions to having a green card?

Just looked it up:

If he attained the green card through marriage, it is probationary for two years. I didn't research it deeply, but it appears this rule is to ensure it is not a fraudulent marriage.

I think there has been some discussion that he lied on his student visa application, but I have not seen that.

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Anonymous wrote:What does it mean to "support Hamas?"
Pledging allegience to Hamas would certainly count.
Transferring money to "Hamas Inc." via wire transfer would count.
Saying "I think Hamas' actions are justified" seems like a grey area.

Saying I want a cease fire and think Israel is committing genocide doesn't necessarily equate to "supporting Hamas." Did Hamas even want a cease-fire? Certainly on their terms, but that applies to any belligerent. For all we know he might hate Hamas and prefer the PLO or some other organization.

What evidence is there that the student "supported Hamas?" Merely asking for a ceasefire or asking Columbia to divest, would not seem to qualify as "supporting terrorism."

How 'bout this (which I posted earlier)?

Khalil acted as a negotiator and sometimes spokesperson for CUAD (Columbia University Apartheid Divest).

CUAD explicitly and officially issued a statement supporting Hamas and 10/7. As quoted in the Times:

“We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance,” the group, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, said in its statement revoking the apology.

The group marked the anniversary of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by distributing a newspaper with a headline that used Hamas’s name for it: “One Year Since Al-Aqsa Flood, Revolution Until Victory,” it read, over a picture of Hamas fighters breaching the security fence to Israel. And the group posted an essay calling the attack a “moral, military and political victory” and quoting Ismail Haniyeh, the assassinated former political leader of Hamas.

“The Palestinian resistance is moving their struggle to a new phase of escalation and it is our duty to meet them there,” the group wrote on Oct. 7 on Telegram. “It is our duty to fight for our freedom!”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/nyregion/c...ian-group-hamas.html

Exactly. This guy wasn’t just walking around with a cardboard sign reading “Cease Fire.”

So, if a South African living in the US with a green card during the 80s supported Nelson Mandela and the ANC, should he have been deported back to South Africa? Mandela and the ANC were considered terrorists until 2008.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-government-considered-nelson-mandela-terrorist-until-2008-flna2d11708787

DP. Let's make the hypothetical match the current situation:

How 'bout if our imaginary South African issued a statement supporting murdering white South African civilians en masse and calling for the destruction of western civilization (as CUAD has done)?

Deportable?

Probably not if he's white.

Also, a lot of Irish Americans supported and even funded and provided arms to the IRA, a terrorist organization. They weren't deported either. Why? Cause they are white people.

You are comparing citizen rights to immigrant rights, which is not at all the same for good reason. And you are wrong. Sinn Fein leaders have been denied visas to the US due to their IRA ties, and denied green cards. It is our policy not to harbor violent extremists of any cause, and it’s a good one.
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/sinn-feins-ohare-denied-visa-for-trip-to-capitol-hill/26208677.html

Green card immigrants for have rights and protection.
Uh oh, Trump goofed and now needs you apologists to smoke-and-mirrors for him

Can you try that again, in English this time? We don't speak transliterated Arabic here.

Green-card-holding permanent-resident immigrants have rights and protection, you ignorant idiot racist.

They are literally called "resident aliens".

And they still have rights and legal protections.

And need to obey our country's laws.

What law did he break? How precisely did he break it?

Oh, c’mon, you don’t actually expect these liars fellating one another over this story to provide actual facts, right?

You’re dealing with pathological liars. They don’t operate on the basis of facts. It’s all propaganda and projection.

Nice try, lol. He didn't have to break any law. Under a provision of the US Immigration and Nationality Act, a law passed in 1952, any immigrants may be deported if the secretary of state deems their presence in the country potentially adverse to American foreign policy. He broke the provisions of his Green Card status. He festered hatred toward a certain group under the guise of activism which is a hate crime. Aligning with terrorist, and all he did met the requirements of deportation. In March he will go before an immigration judge for a deportation hearing.

Newsflash: he hasn’t yet been charged with any crime!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I care much less about this loser than I do the Jewish American that will hopefully be returned by Hamas, along with four dead bodies. Let's protest for this return. He's actually an American.

Why not care about both? Elimination of this guy's civil liberties will impact you even if you think his politics suck.

They won't, because you'd never find me organizing an event to promote a terrorist organization. Especially if I wasn't born here and was fortunate to have procured a green card. I'd be protecting that thing like the gold it is.

This. Act like an obnoxious bully, reap the consequences.

Like Israel.

Steal Palestinian lands, massacre them, imprison them in refugee camps and then when they rise up to defend themselves, call them terrorists and reap the consequences.