Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

Renting a bike someone has sat down on and is preparing to rent is obviously antagonistic. She should have, though, recognized these guys were messing with her because they are immature teens.

The video is 90 second long, and at the end she gets of the bike. So she does, ultimately realize that she is dealign with immature teens and moves on with her life.

What if the thousands of people online who have since called this woman a white supremacist and a liar, claimed she's faking her pregnancy, accused her of bias in her medical practice, and dozens of other absolute insane and unsupported accusations ALSO recognized that these guys are immature teens who were messing with a tired pregnant woman?

Like it took her about a minute to figure out what was going on and walk away from the situation. The internet is still trying to get her fired several days later. Who needs to wise up here, exactly?

The internet is the a$$hole here, definitely. But she is not the wronged party, nor is she a victim.

She may or may not be the victim in the actual event - surely she shouldn’t have touched his phone. But now she’s absolutely a victim of the internet mob.

Yup. I think she shouldn't be, and it sucks, and I hope she isn't fired, but that's a risk you take when you have a hissy in front of a bunch of phones.

I think it’s as or more likely that our director of cinematography decided to film to a push hard for a reaction so I think your order of operations are likely wrong.

Ok.

Please let me know if you have any evidence of that.

In fact, I do. The recording helpfully objectively demonstrates that he had not rented the bike, by the video visual of him with his palm over the scannable code, and by the helpful audio where you hear the unlocking, indicating the rental. Since the recording precedes the actual act of bike rental, it makes rational sense that the group wanted to bully her off of it and the now universal language of recording her shows they wanted to embarrass her into complying. Hope that is helpful.

That, to me, isn't evidence. That's interpreting/speculating on what happened.

I agree that, at the beginning of the video, he hadn't rented the bike. Neither had she. It was an open bike -- it was up for grabs. Sitting on the bike didn't make it her bike. Recording before the bike is rented could easily also have been because they saw that she incorrectly thought that it was her bike because she sat on it and was escalating the situation. She wasn't being "bullied" off the bike.

I get that you see it differently. It's definitely open to interpretation.

So if you have something in your grocery cart and someone takes it and walks away with it and pays for it first, you are totally ok with that? What if they have friends there standing around you and filming your reaction...all good? And if you do react in a frustrated way, you should be nationally criticized on the internet and suspended from your job?

She understands that as a white woman, she is always going to be viewed as the victim in any situation. She knows that white comfort is always prioritized over everything else. She is aware that if she makes a loud enough scene, some white man or a cop will come flying in to “rescue” her.

Yes that’s why those young men are now in jail after harassing her. Because white women are always the victim. And it’s why no one is saying the young man is the victim of an attempted theft.

You and everyone defending her see her as a victim, right? You have come up with 1000 possible scenarios to justify her behavior (calling for help and fake crying.)

Almost no one on this thread is justifying her behavior. For instance, I have not seen a single post saying she was justified in taking the guy's phone. I've seen people explaining that she is taking it because he is using it to rent the bike she is sitting on (as part of the explanation of how we know that the bike is being rented 20 seconds into the video, and not before the video begins). But not justifying her choice to grab the phone.

Many people who disagree with the narrative that she stole the bike or is trying to get these black men in trouble have criticized her demeanor in the video or argued she should have handled it differently. People are not spinning "1000 possible scenarios" -- they are looking at the facts as they are presented in the video we have and noting that the man has not rented the bike at the beginning of the video, that he physically prevents her from renting the bike, that he rents it while she is sitting on it, that he uses his body position and size to force her off the bike, and that he has the support of several friends in this while she is alone. These are not "scenarios" or suppositions -- they are facts. They are what happen.

I don't see her as a victim in the video -- I tend to view the video as two people acting childishly in a dispute over a bike, and I think the man is in a more powerful position (because of his size and the fact that he has backup) than she is. I recognize that their race could be one source of conflict, but don't think it really applies in this situation because there are several other factors at play. I don't think she is viewing her race or her gender as a trump card she can play. I think they are actually limiting factors for her in this situation.

I'm not justifying anything she does, I'm just describing it. She doesn't steal the bike. She doesn't yell at this man who takes the bike or any of his friends. She does not fake cry. She does not try to get anyone to hurt or attack this man or his friends. She walks away at the end.

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Sitting on a CitiBike and then taking out your phone to scan and rent it is actually a pretty normal sequence of events in NYC. It does actually matter in terms of viewing her actions and reactions that she is the one who followed the normal protocol for CitiBike rentals. Putting your hand over the code on a bike that *someone else is already sitting on* so that they can't scan it while you take out your phone and scan it is actually a WAY bigger deviation from the norm. Like, yes, he ended up renting the bike, so it became his... but it's sort of like taking something off of someone else's grocery belt, paying for it before they can and then acting like it's weird that they're upset because you paid for it...

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Anonymous wrote:Sitting on a CitiBike and then taking out your phone to scan and rent it is actually a pretty normal sequence of events in NYC. It does actually matter in terms of viewing her actions and reactions that she is the one who followed the normal protocol for CitiBike rentals. Putting your hand over the code on a bike that *someone else is already sitting on* so that they can't scan it while you take out your phone and scan it is actually a WAY bigger deviation from the norm. Like, yes, he ended up renting the bike, so it became his... but it's sort of like taking something off of someone else's grocery belt, paying for it before they can and then acting like it's weird that they're upset because you paid for it...

This is exactly it. This is the protocol, and it gives a pretty clear window into why she may have been agitated and upset while they are “calm.”

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Anonymous wrote:Sitting on a CitiBike and then taking out your phone to scan and rent it is actually a pretty normal sequence of events in NYC. It does actually matter in terms of viewing her actions and reactions that she is the one who followed the normal protocol for CitiBike rentals. Putting your hand over the code on a bike that *someone else is already sitting on* so that they can't scan it while you take out your phone and scan it is actually a WAY bigger deviation from the norm. Like, yes, he ended up renting the bike, so it became his... but it's sort of like taking something off of someone else's grocery belt, paying for it before they can and then acting like it's weird that they're upset because you paid for it...

That’s not what happened here. It’s just what you decided to believe happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Sitting on a CitiBike and then taking out your phone to scan and rent it is actually a pretty normal sequence of events in NYC. It does actually matter in terms of viewing her actions and reactions that she is the one who followed the normal protocol for CitiBike rentals. Putting your hand over the code on a bike that *someone else is already sitting on* so that they can't scan it while you take out your phone and scan it is actually a WAY bigger deviation from the norm. Like, yes, he ended up renting the bike, so it became his... but it's sort of like taking something off of someone else's grocery belt, paying for it before they can and then acting like it's weird that they're upset because you paid for it...

That’s not what happened here. It’s just what you decided to believe happened.

It's literally what is shown in the video.

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Why is everything about race? It seems as soon as a white person does anything even slightly wacky, they are accused of being a virulent racist, card carrying member of the KKK. These kinds of arguments/stupid fights are common between ALL people- amongst white people, black people, asian people. But as soon as you have it be between a white person and a black person suddenly the white person is automatically wrong, and, not only that, a disgusting vile hateful person who deserves to be fired from their job and have their life destroyed. It's actually very bizarre and sick. And people are noticing.

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Anonymous wrote:Sitting on a CitiBike and then taking out your phone to scan and rent it is actually a pretty normal sequence of events in NYC. It does actually matter in terms of viewing her actions and reactions that she is the one who followed the normal protocol for CitiBike rentals. Putting your hand over the code on a bike that *someone else is already sitting on* so that they can't scan it while you take out your phone and scan it is actually a WAY bigger deviation from the norm. Like, yes, he ended up renting the bike, so it became his... but it's sort of like taking something off of someone else's grocery belt, paying for it before they can and then acting like it's weird that they're upset because you paid for it...

He continued to cover the QR code for a number of seconds after the beep. I think that shows it’s just as likely someone else scanned a code on another bike, and it can be heard on the video.

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Anonymous wrote:Sitting on a CitiBike and then taking out your phone to scan and rent it is actually a pretty normal sequence of events in NYC. It does actually matter in terms of viewing her actions and reactions that she is the one who followed the normal protocol for CitiBike rentals. Putting your hand over the code on a bike that *someone else is already sitting on* so that they can't scan it while you take out your phone and scan it is actually a WAY bigger deviation from the norm. Like, yes, he ended up renting the bike, so it became his... but it's sort of like taking something off of someone else's grocery belt, paying for it before they can and then acting like it's weird that they're upset because you paid for it...

He continued to cover the QR code for a number of seconds after the beep. I think that shows it’s just as likely someone else scanned a code on another bike, and it can be heard on the video.

The bike moves when it unlocks. You see it rock backwards, right after the unlocking sound.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everything about race? It seems as soon as a white person does anything even slightly wacky, they are accused of being a virulent racist, card carrying member of the KKK. These kinds of arguments/stupid fights are common between ALL people- amongst white people, black people, asian people. But as soon as you have it be between a white person and a black person suddenly the white person is automatically wrong, and, not only that, a disgusting vile hateful person who deserves to be fired from their job and have their life destroyed. It's actually very bizarre and sick. And people are noticing.

I agree. It’s a hyperbolic response that adults shouldn’t entertain.

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Anonymous wrote:Sitting on a CitiBike and then taking out your phone to scan and rent it is actually a pretty normal sequence of events in NYC. It does actually matter in terms of viewing her actions and reactions that she is the one who followed the normal protocol for CitiBike rentals. Putting your hand over the code on a bike that *someone else is already sitting on* so that they can't scan it while you take out your phone and scan it is actually a WAY bigger deviation from the norm. Like, yes, he ended up renting the bike, so it became his... but it's sort of like taking something off of someone else's grocery belt, paying for it before they can and then acting like it's weird that they're upset because you paid for it...

He continued to cover the QR code for a number of seconds after the beep. I think that shows it’s just as likely someone else scanned a code on another bike, and it can be heard on the video.

The bike moves when it unlocks. You see it rock backwards, right after the unlocking sound.

Just noting that people keep dickering around things one can clearly see and hear in the video. No matter how patiently it’s spelled out. Thank you for being next-leave patient with this, it’s nuts.

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Have I missed that this woman came out and said what you all are saying happened? Why are there 50+ pages of people definitively saying what happened? Let the woman make a statement before defending her

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Anonymous wrote:Have I missed that this woman came out and said what you all are saying happened? Why are there 50+ pages of people definitively saying what happened? Let the woman make a statement before defending her

The boys also didn’t make a statement, why don’t you let them issue one before defending them and attacking her, question mark.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everything about race? It seems as soon as a white person does anything even slightly wacky, they are accused of being a virulent racist, card carrying member of the KKK. These kinds of arguments/stupid fights are common between ALL people- amongst white people, black people, asian people. But as soon as you have it be between a white person and a black person suddenly the white person is automatically wrong, and, not only that, a disgusting vile hateful person who deserves to be fired from their job and have their life destroyed. It's actually very bizarre and sick. And people are noticing.

I agree. It’s a hyperbolic response that adults shouldn’t entertain.

Most adults dont. You can tell the tide is shifting by how much of a relative non reaction this has had. Compare that to the instant cancelling of the central park dog-walking lady in 2020 (who has now been somewhat vindicated). Or by the fundraising support given to the guy who killed jordan neely vs to jordan neely. I think people are seeing how silly and deliberately divisive these incidences are and learning to simply ignore.

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Anonymous wrote:Have I missed that this woman came out and said what you all are saying happened? Why are there 50+ pages of people definitively saying what happened? Let the woman make a statement before defending her

Because we can see what happened. I’m not definitively saying anything except what I can clearly see: young man blocks QR code so woman cannot scan it.

This is directly inconsistent with many media accounts, and I don’t need a statement from her to see the media got it wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Sitting on a CitiBike and then taking out your phone to scan and rent it is actually a pretty normal sequence of events in NYC. It does actually matter in terms of viewing her actions and reactions that she is the one who followed the normal protocol for CitiBike rentals. Putting your hand over the code on a bike that *someone else is already sitting on* so that they can't scan it while you take out your phone and scan it is actually a WAY bigger deviation from the norm. Like, yes, he ended up renting the bike, so it became his... but it's sort of like taking something off of someone else's grocery belt, paying for it before they can and then acting like it's weird that they're upset because you paid for it...

That’s not what happened here. It’s just what you decided to believe happened.

It's literally what is shown in the video.

I see her sitting on the bike as the video begins, as the boy next to her calmly explains that it is his bike. I see him holding the bike to prevent her from taking it. I see her pretending to cry. I believe there is context missing because the video starts after she has already sat on the bike that he was about to rent…somehow I doubt the boys started filming because they were about to steal this woman’s bike.

You can interpret it how you want, and so can I.