Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everything about race? It seems as soon as a white person does anything even slightly wacky, they are accused of being a virulent racist, card carrying member of the KKK. These kinds of arguments/stupid fights are common between ALL people- amongst white people, black people, asian people. But as soon as you have it be between a white person and a black person suddenly the white person is automatically wrong, and, not only that, a disgusting vile hateful person who deserves to be fired from their job and have their life destroyed. It's actually very bizarre and sick. And people are noticing.

I agree. It’s a hyperbolic response that adults shouldn’t entertain.

Most adults dont. You can tell the tide is shifting by how much of a relative non reaction this has had. Compare that to the instant cancelling of the central park dog-walking lady in 2020 (who has now been somewhat vindicated). Or by the fundraising support given to the guy who killed jordan neely vs to jordan neely. I think people are seeing how silly and deliberately divisive these incidences are and learning to simply ignore.

I think this is a bit muddled - the Central Park woman was not cleared, and while I don’t think Neely was murdered in the legal sense, I won’t contribute to Penny’s defense.

This is very different. This is people wanting this woman fired from Bellevue because they are *willfully* ignoring how people access the QR code to rent citibikes, and ignoring what *actually* is shown in the video, which parties use slurs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Have I missed that this woman came out and said what you all are saying happened? Why are there 50+ pages of people definitively saying what happened? Let the woman make a statement before defending her

Because we can see what happened. I’m not definitively saying anything except what I can clearly see: young man blocks QR code so woman cannot scan it.

This is directly inconsistent with many media accounts, and I don’t need a statement from her to see the media got it wrong.

This is correct. This is his actual action.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sitting on a CitiBike and then taking out your phone to scan and rent it is actually a pretty normal sequence of events in NYC. It does actually matter in terms of viewing her actions and reactions that she is the one who followed the normal protocol for CitiBike rentals. Putting your hand over the code on a bike that *someone else is already sitting on* so that they can't scan it while you take out your phone and scan it is actually a WAY bigger deviation from the norm. Like, yes, he ended up renting the bike, so it became his... but it's sort of like taking something off of someone else's grocery belt, paying for it before they can and then acting like it's weird that they're upset because you paid for it...

That’s not what happened here. It’s just what you decided to believe happened.

It's literally what is shown in the video.

I see her sitting on the bike as the video begins, as the boy next to her calmly explains that it is his bike. I see him holding the bike to prevent her from taking it. I see her pretending to cry. I believe there is context missing because the video starts after she has already sat on the bike that he was about to rent…somehow I doubt the boys started filming because they were about to steal this woman’s bike.

You can interpret it how you want, and so can I.

Okay. Where is the QR code on this model of Citibike, and where is his hand?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have I missed that this woman came out and said what you all are saying happened? Why are there 50+ pages of people definitively saying what happened? Let the woman make a statement before defending her

We are looking at the video. We can see what happens in the video, we don't need a statement from the woman. We have eyes.

This woman could be anyone and anything. There are all kinds of things I don't know about her. But I do know for a fact that she was sitting on that bike when a man tried to push her off of it, and then unlocked the bike while she was sitting on it. I know she didn't try to steal the bike. And I can also see with my eyes that she does not fake cry, she is genuinely upset and frustrated and her expression reflects that. I can also hear the person taking the video berating her about her emotional reaction, saying alternately "why are you crying" and "you're fake crying" and then "stop crying, stop crying" and then "why'd you stop crying". He is bullying and harassing her.

I don't need a statement from this woman to know what happened here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sitting on a CitiBike and then taking out your phone to scan and rent it is actually a pretty normal sequence of events in NYC. It does actually matter in terms of viewing her actions and reactions that she is the one who followed the normal protocol for CitiBike rentals. Putting your hand over the code on a bike that *someone else is already sitting on* so that they can't scan it while you take out your phone and scan it is actually a WAY bigger deviation from the norm. Like, yes, he ended up renting the bike, so it became his... but it's sort of like taking something off of someone else's grocery belt, paying for it before they can and then acting like it's weird that they're upset because you paid for it...

That’s not what happened here. It’s just what you decided to believe happened.

It's literally what is shown in the video.

I see her sitting on the bike as the video begins, as the boy next to her calmly explains that it is his bike. I see him holding the bike to prevent her from taking it. I see her pretending to cry. I believe there is context missing because the video starts after she has already sat on the bike that he was about to rent…somehow I doubt the boys started filming because they were about to steal this woman’s bike.

You can interpret it how you want, and so can I.

Okay. Where is the QR code on this model of Citibike, and where is his hand?

He is holding the center of the bike. You interpret this as him blocking the QR code. I interpret it as him holding the bike to keep her from leaving with it. See how that works?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sitting on a CitiBike and then taking out your phone to scan and rent it is actually a pretty normal sequence of events in NYC. It does actually matter in terms of viewing her actions and reactions that she is the one who followed the normal protocol for CitiBike rentals. Putting your hand over the code on a bike that *someone else is already sitting on* so that they can't scan it while you take out your phone and scan it is actually a WAY bigger deviation from the norm. Like, yes, he ended up renting the bike, so it became his... but it's sort of like taking something off of someone else's grocery belt, paying for it before they can and then acting like it's weird that they're upset because you paid for it...

He continued to cover the QR code for a number of seconds after the beep. I think that shows it’s just as likely someone else scanned a code on another bike, and it can be heard on the video.

You can also manually type in the bike's 5 digit code to unlock it. So clearly he clocked the number, covered the code, typed in the number and is waiting for it to unlock before uncovering the QR code. The bike rocks backwards once unlocked, which you see happen in the video. Most people in this thread have clearly never ridden a CitiBike and are just completely making things up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is everything about race? It seems as soon as a white person does anything even slightly wacky, they are accused of being a virulent racist, card carrying member of the KKK. These kinds of arguments/stupid fights are common between ALL people- amongst white people, black people, asian people. But as soon as you have it be between a white person and a black person suddenly the white person is automatically wrong, and, not only that, a disgusting vile hateful person who deserves to be fired from their job and have their life destroyed. It's actually very bizarre and sick. And people are noticing.

I agree. It’s a hyperbolic response that adults shouldn’t entertain.

Most adults dont. You can tell the tide is shifting by how much of a relative non reaction this has had. Compare that to the instant cancelling of the central park dog-walking lady in 2020 (who has now been somewhat vindicated). Or by the fundraising support given to the guy who killed jordan neely vs to jordan neely. I think people are seeing how silly and deliberately divisive these incidences are and learning to simply ignore.

I think this is a bit muddled - the Central Park woman was not cleared, and while I don’t think Neely was murdered in the legal sense, I won’t contribute to Penny’s defense.

This is very different. This is people wanting this woman fired from Bellevue because they are *willfully* ignoring how people access the QR code to rent citibikes, and ignoring what *actually* is shown in the video, which parties use slurs.

+1, I have never defended Amy Cooper and I think the guy who killed Jordan Neely is a murderer and belongs in jail.

But this woman didn't do anything wrong and I know that because I watched the video where she allegedly "steals a bike and fake cries" and what I see is that is not what happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sitting on a CitiBike and then taking out your phone to scan and rent it is actually a pretty normal sequence of events in NYC. It does actually matter in terms of viewing her actions and reactions that she is the one who followed the normal protocol for CitiBike rentals. Putting your hand over the code on a bike that *someone else is already sitting on* so that they can't scan it while you take out your phone and scan it is actually a WAY bigger deviation from the norm. Like, yes, he ended up renting the bike, so it became his... but it's sort of like taking something off of someone else's grocery belt, paying for it before they can and then acting like it's weird that they're upset because you paid for it...

That’s not what happened here. It’s just what you decided to believe happened.

It's literally what is shown in the video.

I see her sitting on the bike as the video begins, as the boy next to her calmly explains that it is his bike. I see him holding the bike to prevent her from taking it. I see her pretending to cry. I believe there is context missing because the video starts after she has already sat on the bike that he was about to rent…somehow I doubt the boys started filming because they were about to steal this woman’s bike.

You can interpret it how you want, and so can I.

Okay. Where is the QR code on this model of Citibike, and where is his hand?

He is holding the center of the bike. You interpret this as him blocking the QR code. I interpret it as him holding the bike to keep her from leaving with it. See how that works?

Well, no, it in a literal sense of physical reality doesn’t work. Because the bike is locked, so she can’t leave with it - because it’s not his. And not rented. You see and hear when it unlocks. Which is the only point where someone could physically in the reality governed by physics and locks and all that jazz, leave with it.

[Anonymous]

I guess we’ll just have to wait for one side or the other to make a definitive statement about what happened. All we know now is that, after further investigation, the woman was put on leave by her employer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess we’ll just have to wait for one side or the other to make a definitive statement about what happened. All we know now is that, after further investigation, the woman was put on leave by her employer.

Again, not an accurate statement. Hm.

We do not know that Bellevue engaged in “further investigation.” If you could link to the proof that there was indeed “further investigation,” that would be wonderful. We do know that many tweets directed at the NY Health & hospitals account with a video clip asked for her to be let go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sitting on a CitiBike and then taking out your phone to scan and rent it is actually a pretty normal sequence of events in NYC. It does actually matter in terms of viewing her actions and reactions that she is the one who followed the normal protocol for CitiBike rentals. Putting your hand over the code on a bike that *someone else is already sitting on* so that they can't scan it while you take out your phone and scan it is actually a WAY bigger deviation from the norm. Like, yes, he ended up renting the bike, so it became his... but it's sort of like taking something off of someone else's grocery belt, paying for it before they can and then acting like it's weird that they're upset because you paid for it...

That’s not what happened here. It’s just what you decided to believe happened.

It's literally what is shown in the video.

I see her sitting on the bike as the video begins, as the boy next to her calmly explains that it is his bike. I see him holding the bike to prevent her from taking it. I see her pretending to cry. I believe there is context missing because the video starts after she has already sat on the bike that he was about to rent…somehow I doubt the boys started filming because they were about to steal this woman’s bike.

You can interpret it how you want, and so can I.

Okay. Where is the QR code on this model of Citibike, and where is his hand?

He is holding the center of the bike. You interpret this as him blocking the QR code. I interpret it as him holding the bike to keep her from leaving with it. See how that works?

But if the bike is unlocked at the 20 second mark (which it is, we hear it release and SEE it move) why does it matter? Whether he is holding the bike to cover the QR code, or holding it to prevent her from leaving, none of this changes the fact that he unlocked a bike she was sitting on. Why did he do that? I've been using bike shares in various cities for going on 15 years now, and I've never done anything like that and never seen anything like that. It's really, really aggressive and weird.

I do still think he was purposefully covering the QR code, but it's honestly not necessary to defend her. It was not his bike at the beginning of the video, he unlocks it while she's sitting on it, he is using his body and size to push/intimidate her off the bike. His videographer friend is harassing her the whole time. One of the other guys says her baby will be [disability slur]. And not only that, but the guy in the purple sweatshirt repeatedly suggests that they let her have the bike and argues against what the guy who is trying to take the bike is doing.

See how that works?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess we’ll just have to wait for one side or the other to make a definitive statement about what happened. All we know now is that, after further investigation, the woman was put on leave by her employer.

They had not investigated when she went on leaves, and we don't even know why she's on leave. Frankly, if I were her, I would have requested leave because I would not feel comfortable returning to my workplace where this happened, plus I'd be very stressed and a bit concerned about how it might impact my pregnancy.

I'd love to hear from the guy in the purple sweatshirt and the guy from the hospital who walks up to intervene.

Would also love to hear someone explain or justify the fact that one of these guys tells a pregnant woman "your baby is gonna come out [slur]."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess we’ll just have to wait for one side or the other to make a definitive statement about what happened. All we know now is that, after further investigation, the woman was put on leave by her employer.

They had not investigated when she went on leaves, and we don't even know why she's on leave. Frankly, if I were her, I would have requested leave because I would not feel comfortable returning to my workplace where this happened, plus I'd be very stressed and a bit concerned about how it might impact my pregnancy.

I'd love to hear from the guy in the purple sweatshirt and the guy from the hospital who walks up to intervene.

Would also love to hear someone explain or justify the fact that one of these guys tells a pregnant woman "your baby is gonna come out [slur]."

Awww, they’re just joshing around! No big. Have you heard of Emmett Till? Because it applies here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess we’ll just have to wait for one side or the other to make a definitive statement about what happened. All we know now is that, after further investigation, the woman was put on leave by her employer.

Again, not an accurate statement. Hm.

We do not know that Bellevue engaged in “further investigation.” If you could link to the proof that there was indeed “further investigation,” that would be wonderful. We do know that many tweets directed at the NY Health & hospitals account with a video clip asked for her to be let go.

You can look at the statements they posted on their Twitter. On May 14 they said they were aware of the incident and it was under review. On May 16, they updated to say that the worker is now on leave, that the incident was disturbing, and that they are committed to ensuring an environment that is free from discrimination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess we’ll just have to wait for one side or the other to make a definitive statement about what happened. All we know now is that, after further investigation, the woman was put on leave by her employer.

They had not investigated when she went on leaves, and we don't even know why she's on leave. Frankly, if I were her, I would have requested leave because I would not feel comfortable returning to my workplace where this happened, plus I'd be very stressed and a bit concerned about how it might impact my pregnancy.

I'd love to hear from the guy in the purple sweatshirt and the guy from the hospital who walks up to intervene.

Would also love to hear someone explain or justify the fact that one of these guys tells a pregnant woman "your baby is gonna come out [slur]."

The justification is that they can do whatever they want without censure. Who's gonna stop them?