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The only reasonable conclusion one honestly reaches from the opposing POV is that there should be zero consequences expressly because they are Black and she is white, because the actual sequence of events has been rendered totally irrelevant. |
That, to me, isn't evidence. That's interpreting/speculating on what happened. I agree that, at the beginning of the video, he hadn't rented the bike. Neither had she. It was an open bike -- it was up for grabs. Sitting on the bike didn't make it her bike. Recording before the bike is rented could easily also have been because they saw that she incorrectly thought that it was her bike because she sat on it and was escalating the situation. She wasn't being "bullied" off the bike. I get that you see it differently. It's definitely open to interpretation. |
Aw, thanks. |
No, they forced her off the bike after they rented it. |
So does that make her a thief as they went on to claim? |
So if you have something in your grocery cart and someone takes it and walks away with it and pays for it first, you are totally ok with that? What if they have friends there standing around you and filming your reaction...all good? And if you do react in a frustrated way, you should be nationally criticized on the internet and suspended from your job? |
They harassed her in tandem as she was surrounded in order to get her off the bike she was on, when they had not rented it. I do not quite get how that’s not objectively quite a bit worse than anything she’s been filmed doing let alone what you’ve flatly accused her of, with your false and now I’m guessing dropped claims about “siccing security and police.” Unless of course you’d like to resurrect that another several times, which is apparently your style? |
She understands that as a white woman, she is always going to be viewed as the victim in any situation. She knows that white comfort is always prioritized over everything else. She is aware that if she makes a loud enough scene, some white man or a cop will come flying in to “rescue” her. |
Do you ride citibike or cabi? Reaching over someone to unlock a bike they are sitting on is highly confrontational and unusual. |
Oh please. |
Do you live in NYC? I do. Both of the scenarios you’ve outlined are extremely unlikely in my experience. |
Yes that’s why those young men are now in jail after harassing her. Because white women are always the victim. And it’s why no one is saying the young man is the victim of an attempted theft. |
I know this has become a popular belief, but it's wrong. White women do not actually believe they will be seen as the victim in any situation. I'm a white woman, and my experience is that I am often disbelieved, assumed to be overreaction or "overemotional", or assumed to be manipulating a situation. I am as likely, if not more likely, to be accused of "playing the victim" by white men or other white women in position of power OVER me, as any POC. In my experience, when I have been harmed or treated unfairly, the POC in a position to know are more likely to believe me or protect me than the usually white people in positions of authority. I have been raped (by a white man) and I was disbelieved by other white men and women. I have experienced bias and harassment in the work place. Some of the white people I worked with did not believe me. Some believed me but advised me that it was in my best interest not to complain because "nothing would happen." I have been harassed on the street, many times, by men of all races, and I have been told that it is either my fault (for wearing workout clothes, for being out by myself, for being out after dark), or that I need to just learn to ignore it. I have never had someone express sympathy or concern for me over this harassment. As a white woman in my 40s, it is my assumption generally that people will not believe or trust the things I say, even when they are the truth and even when I have backing for them -- I have learned to sometimes be manipulative in my personal and professional lives so that people believe that they had my ideas themselves, and therefore trust them to be good. I also have a tendency to overexplain myself when under stress, because I have so much experience being disbelieved or dismissed even when I am correct. I understand the history of white women using their victim status to endanger black men, and it's an ugly and horrible history. I have consciously made choices in my life to try and avoid doing this in terms of choosing how I position myself or how I might appeal to authority in a situation, so as not to endanger others. But the idea that I go through life believing that all I need to do is bat my eyelashes and say "help!" and a white man will rush to my defense and attack whomever I point at is false. I don't feel that way and it is not my experience. Rather, my experience is that a white man is as likely to attack me as to help me, that I must be careful in how I present myself and make arguments because I have no expectation that I will be taken at my word, and that many people, including white men and other white women, will assume me to be a poor reporter of even my own emotional state. Just to give you some insight into how white women think and what we experience. Hope this helps. |
You and everyone defending her see her as a victim, right? You have come up with 1000 possible scenarios to justify her behavior (calling for help and fake crying.) |
She’s very clearly the victim… of defamation. Because she is being falsely and maliciously accused of being an attempted thief. |