Consolidated VA Elections Thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

Youngkin's supporters are extreme. The book banning, 'stolen election' ranting, support of the insurrection, etc. are all perfect examples of this.

We know that Youngkin wants to criminalize abortion because of his own public statements on the issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting poll release today from Tommy Schultz:
POLL

Q: "How much influence do you think parents of K-12 students should have over what schools teach?"

A: "Most or some":
Asian: 70%
Black: 67%
Hispanic: 67%
White: 75%
Suburban Women: 69%

A: "Not really":
Asian: 21%
Black: 22%
Hispanic: 27%
White: 19%
Suburban Women: 20%

Gee, that’s totally not a leading-question, is it?

Garbage poll. Worthless.

Actually, this poll is explaining the state of Virginia right now. Education is the #1 issue for most of the electorate.

No, it’s the #1 issue for racists and fascists.

The rest of Virginia cares about REAL issues: climate change, equal rights for all genders, women’s health, immigrant rights, ending the culture of police violence, getting rid of guns, and righting all the wrongs of the past brought to us by white men like Youngkin.

I’d say education is very much a women’s issue. Closing schools unnecessarily cost many women their jobs and untold others their sanity.

The pandemic was detrimental to many, especially women.

That doesn’t mean you vote for the anti-woman candidate. WTAF?

DP. "Anti-woman candidate"? You're going to have to provide actual links for that absurd claim, doofus.

“The American Independent” is the left-wing group that posted the video. What a laugh, using “independent” in their name, hoping to fool people into thinking they’re actually independent. Here’s what Media Bias/FactCheck has to say:

LEFT BIAS

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.

Are you denying that this is Youngkin?

People who believe that being against abortion means being against women are just ridiculous.
I am a woman who is very much opposed to abortion. I am not anti-woman. I am pro-child.

The misogyny in you is deeply internalized.

Conservatives aren’t pro-child. They don’t give a hoot what happens after they are born.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was very tempted to vote Youngkin because I haven't been happy about how covid has been handled with the schools, but the book banning and hostility towards teaching accurate US history led me to reluctantly vote for McAuliffe. The recent story in the NYT about republicans demanding a book with an interracial couple get pulled from the library was the last straw.

I mean, remember when conservatives tried to cancel Dr. Seuss?

LOL!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

If Youngkin is elected and Republicans win even a razor thin majority in the legislature of course they will move to outlaw abortion. Absolutely. 100%. Also, these are the people who wanted to impose transvaginal wand pelvic exams among other misogynistic and loony things.

[Anonymous]

Youngkin is a liar
Traitor
Anti Democracy
Pro Alt right
Will take away all Womens rights and I mean all.

Democracy vs Authoritarian

Anyone want a King of VA because you elect him he’s never leaving!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

Are you kidding? We are talking about the VA GOP legislators here. From 2012-2020, the VA Republicans forced women to get a vaginal probe and 24-hr waiting period before getting an abortion. This was happening up until LAST YEAR when the Ds took over.

And the 2021 Rs are even crazier than the 2012 Rs. Of course they will try to pull that Texas crap here.

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Anonymous wrote:I was very tempted to vote Youngkin because I haven't been happy about how covid has been handled with the schools, but the book banning and hostility towards teaching accurate US history led me to reluctantly vote for McAuliffe. The recent story in the NYT about republicans demanding a book with an interracial couple get pulled from the library was the last straw.

I mean, remember when conservatives tried to cancel Dr. Seuss?

LOL!!!

I wasn’t joking. I remember it vividly. All the agitation about the supposed communist messages in his books. And they lost their minds over the Lorax.

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Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of Dems here stating they are voting R for Youngkin for the first time. Question, just curious - are you voting a straight R ticket or splitting the ticket?

Straight R. I’m just not on board with democrats move towards extreme progressivism. Sending a message that they need to scoot back towards reason. Youngkin is a pretty bland guy who will be a middle of the road bureaucrat anyway.

I will vote Youngkin and Miyares (can't vote for Herring due to the rise of crime in my neighborhood and his connection to Paradigma). I am still on the fence as to Sears/ Ayala. I love Ayala personally, but also want to see a black women in the office.

Do more research on Sears. She is truly impressive. I heard her speak yeaterday and am just blown away by her strangth, energy and character.

She is an immigrant from Jamaica, naturalized citizen, marine, business woman and owner, only AA female R elected to the state legislature (might be the first AA female State legislature elected in either party but you would need to fact check that.)

She is a mother and has dealt with the grief of losing her daughter and granddaughters in a car accident.

She is strong, compassionate and very well informed in bothe business and politics in Virginia.

Her credentials are impressive. So is her character.

After hearing her speam, I believe she could one day be president.

She’s not running to be our friend, she’s running to be Lt. Governor. The focus should be on her political views, not her personal history. On the issues, she is a right-wing extremist.

[Anonymous]

^ sorry mandatory ultrasound


The vaginal probe was was they were pushing for

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

Youngkin's supporters are extreme. The book banning, 'stolen election' ranting, support of the insurrection, etc. are all perfect examples of this.

We know that Youngkin wants to criminalize abortion because of his own public statements on the issue.

PP here, so your reply is a perfect example. You are generalizing all Youngkin voters as extreme based on what? Because Youngkin said he was concerned about election integrity, because SOME supporters were concerned about sexually explicit books being taught in high school, and I’m not sure which supporters said they were in support of the insurrection. Did Youngkin ever say he was in support of the insurrection? If so I’d honestly love to see a citation/link so I can educate myself.

Your post clearly shows you don’t know Virginia state politics or average Virginians. We’re not having a bonfire to burn books. We’re not chaining ourselves together blocking the entrance to Planned Parenthood. I watched in horror on January 6, I even turned someone in to the FBI. The average Virginian doesn’t take kindly to people making false generalizations or stereotypes about us, especially ones that are so way off base. And it will have the opposite effect as intended like that LP shenanigans on Friday. It will only make us like you less, when we prefer just to play well with others and get along.

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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

If Youngkin is elected and Republicans win even a razor thin majority in the legislature of course they will move to outlaw abortion. Absolutely. 100%. Also, these are the people who wanted to impose transvaginal wand pelvic exams among other misogynistic and loony things.

And they did get the required ultrasound (not vaginal) and 24 hr waiting period back in 2012.

That wasn’t repealed until 2020 - LAST YEAR.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

Youngkin's supporters are extreme. The book banning, 'stolen election' ranting, support of the insurrection, etc. are all perfect examples of this.

We know that Youngkin wants to criminalize abortion because of his own public statements on the issue.

PP here, so your reply is a perfect example. You are generalizing all Youngkin voters as extreme based on what? Because Youngkin said he was concerned about election integrity, because SOME supporters were concerned about sexually explicit books being taught in high school, and I’m not sure which supporters said they were in support of the insurrection. Did Youngkin ever say he was in support of the insurrection? If so I’d honestly love to see a citation/link so I can educate myself.

Your post clearly shows you don’t know Virginia state politics or average Virginians. We’re not having a bonfire to burn books. We’re not chaining ourselves together blocking the entrance to Planned Parenthood. I watched in horror on January 6, I even turned someone in to the FBI. The average Virginian doesn’t take kindly to people making false generalizations or stereotypes about us, especially ones that are so way off base. And it will have the opposite effect as intended like that LP shenanigans on Friday. It will only make us like you less, when we prefer just to play well with others and get along.

Yes, some Virginias are more subtle in their racism, bigotry, and misogyny.

Polished POSs.

[Anonymous]

People who believe that being against abortion means being against women are just ridiculous.
I am a woman who is very much opposed to abortion. I am not anti-woman. I am pro-child.

The misogyny in you is deeply internalized.

She wrote nothing misogynistic. She merely disagrees with you. Stop being dishonest.

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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

Youngkin's supporters are extreme. The book banning, 'stolen election' ranting, support of the insurrection, etc. are all perfect examples of this.

We know that Youngkin wants to criminalize abortion because of his own public statements on the issue.

Nope. Many are moderates and some of us are long-time former Democrats. At some point the incompetence and hypocrisy of Democrats currently running state and local government take their toll. Democrats had better candidates but endorsed/nominated either the most extreme (local boards of supervisors and school boards) or those with the fewest principles and deepest pockets (McAuliffe).

If these officials/candidates hadn't turned out to be such disappointments, some of us might vote for McAuliffe again. But right now we need a change in leadership and the Democrats need to reckon with their/our own self-inflicted wounds.

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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised people think that if Youngkin is elected Virginia will suddenly turn into Texas if Roe v Wade is overturned and outlaw abortion. The average Virginian is pretty moderate (socially liberal leaning and fiscally conservative leaning). They might be anti-abortion for their own choices but they’re not ones to tell others what to do or impose their personal beliefs on someone else and are pro-choice for others.

I do not see the majority of Virginians finding pro-life measures and outlawing abortion to be a priority and in fact most will find it too overreaching and indecent. They will not support this in the numbers you suggest, not at all.

I have lived in Virginia all my life all over the commonwealth. Virginians aren’t known to be extreme on either end. So this knee jerk reaction that Virginians are chomping at the bit and just waiting for Youngkin to get elected so abortion can be banned is offensive. First there would have to be a law on his desk to sign. I don’t think it will get to that point, not anytime soon.

So stop painting Virginians as extreme right pro life marching single issue voter crazy trains. We’re not.

Youngkin's supporters are extreme. The book banning, 'stolen election' ranting, support of the insurrection, etc. are all perfect examples of this.

We know that Youngkin wants to criminalize abortion because of his own public statements on the issue.

PP here, so your reply is a perfect example. You are generalizing all Youngkin voters as extreme based on what? Because Youngkin said he was concerned about election integrity, because SOME supporters were concerned about sexually explicit books being taught in high school, and I’m not sure which supporters said they were in support of the insurrection. Did Youngkin ever say he was in support of the insurrection? If so I’d honestly love to see a citation/link so I can educate myself.

Your post clearly shows you don’t know Virginia state politics or average Virginians. We’re not having a bonfire to burn books. We’re not chaining ourselves together blocking the entrance to Planned Parenthood. I watched in horror on January 6, I even turned someone in to the FBI. The average Virginian doesn’t take kindly to people making false generalizations or stereotypes about us, especially ones that are so way off base. And it will have the opposite effect as intended like that LP shenanigans on Friday. It will only make us like you less, when we prefer just to play well with others and get along.

DP. I don't think you are an extremist and I don't think my neighbors are extremists. I think Sears is an extremist and I think Youngkin is courting extremists. Will he continue to court them after he's elected? Probably.

So yes, I'm voting for abortion in this election. Because Republicans (I used to be one) have made this election about abortion. I am also very concerned about education. But first, abortion.