Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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I should add that mentally, I have a hard time accepting that any Republican wins any election. I have literally never met a Republican voter!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a D but one who doesn’t want to get rid of advanced but nevertheless voted for McA. I remember the VPMI fiasco and I’m too smart to be gaslighted. I know they were considering it and changed their mind with the backlash and that it was dumb to say this was a made up issue.

Headline of the online NYT this morning:

California Tries to Close the Gap in Math, but Sets Off a Backlash

Proposed guidelines in the state would de-emphasize calculus, reject the idea that some children are naturally gifted and build a connection to social justice. Critics say math shouldn’t be political.

The California guidelines, which are not binding, could overhaul the way many school districts approach math instruction. The draft rejected the idea of naturally gifted children, recommended against shifting certain students into accelerated courses in middle school and tried to promote high-level math courses that could serve as alternatives to calculus, like data science or statistics.

You people will never understand but that was why some people voted R. Because it is a risk with the Ds. Don’t deny that by saying it’s not happening and gaslighting. At least be genuine and say it was considered and discarded and the Ds are really really not considering it again and it’s not a risk with them.

Who said they weren’t considering some amount of tracking? They were. It was definitely discussed. That doesn’t mean they were “banning advanced math / acceleration”. They always included AP/IB as options, which are advanced math options.

The whole point was that there wasn’t an actual plan at that point - they were just discussing a variety of topics related to updating the math curriculum. They also discussed adding other tracks, blending concepts, etc. Detracking wasn’t even the main topic - it didn’t even make the infographic. Wayback machine has screenshot if you want to verify.

And even long after it was squashed, people are still saying the VMPI is trying to take away advanced math. Like a conspiracy theory.

I think the people who voted R wanted to make sure if the Ds in power - they didn’t reconsider. And that was / is a realistic risk with Ds.

This. It is disingenuous to suggest that revisiting the issue was not a possibility had the Dems run the table. Just like “defund the police”, the Dems keep floating ideas that the majority of people find to be too far left, and then have to scramble claiming oh we didn’t mean THAT, when there is a backlash to it. Let’s be real, if there hadn’t been such backlash to these ideas, they would have pushed forward with them because there is a substantial flank of the Democratic Party that believes in them.

No one said that detracking was never discussed.

You can continue to play the semantics game with what is “happening” or discussed” but the point remains that it was “discussed” because Dems wanted it to “happen” and many parents wanted to ensure that it wouldn’t “happen” so they voted Republican.

If you are going to continue to be misleading then we will continue to “play semantics”.

“Dems” didn’t want this to happen. This isn’t on the party platform. There aren’t Ds running around Virginia with “detracking” license plates on their car.

Yes, some people who are likely Dems thought it was a good idea and brought it up for discussion, along with other topics. They didn’t try to force it on anyone. Heck, they didn’t even include it on their website or infographic. Who said they thought it was a bad idea? Lots of Ds. Who ultimately took it off the table? A Dem (assuming Lane is a D).

And they were certainly never “banning advanced math”.

You won. It worked. You can stop the relentless BS now.

I'm not so much trying to BS as I am trying to explain what happened to the Ds so they don't do it again.

Yes, it’s clear that the Ds should have done more to fight the misinformation and BS.

IMO you have to recognize the kernels of truth to fight it. Truth is subjective. This is a really clear example to me. The Ds think CRT is not being taught and the Rs think it is - and they’re both right.

Isn't that what makes disinformation so effective? They are just enough hints of truth to make it believable, but it is not actually true. It's BS.

That's why you gotta listen to people, hear their concerns, instead of telling them to sit down and shut up and that they're a bunch of morons.

We did. In good faith. Many times.

That didn’t stop the Rs from relentlessly pushing misinformation.

DP. Where, exactly, is the misinformation in 00:16?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you mean the long thread titled “CRT s not being taught in VA schools!” in which no one can even agree on a definition, let alone provide examples?

Plenty of examples on that thread and all the people supporting CRT say is "liar" and "racist." There is another thread about liberals concerned with identity politics, in which all the liberals who don't like identity politics are told they are liars and racists. On Twitter, you can fond many discussions of CRT where Ibram Kendi himself says his opponents are lying pr being racist. I can pretty much guarantee that Youngkin voters are quite aware of what CRT is and that they themselves are considered lying, racist or stupid. If CRT didn't get them, then their "stupidity" for thinking schools should have opened earlier or that parents should have a say in education did.

It's really long passed the time to be pretending everybody is stupid, lying, or racist except you.

Pretending?

Ok. If it’s so obvious what the definition is and so easy to provide examples of that happening in VA, please share. You can copy and paste from those posts.

DP. JFC. Can you not read? There is a post right here that copied directly from the VA Dept. of Education. They set the curriculum in VA. This is the BS they are pushing. Teachers are trained using these "resources" and are expected to incorporate them into the classroom. What about this do you not understand? Are you really this dumb?

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Anonymous wrote:Sixteen precincts left and Terry has whittled Glenn’s lead to about 65,000. No idea of this includes late arriving mail ballots. The AG race is very close. Guarantee Team Terry is watching this very closely.

Sorry. That ship has sailed. Buh bye, TMac.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you mean the long thread titled “CRT s not being taught in VA schools!” in which no one can even agree on a definition, let alone provide examples?

Plenty of examples on that thread and all the people supporting CRT say is "liar" and "racist." There is another thread about liberals concerned with identity politics, in which all the liberals who don't like identity politics are told they are liars and racists. On Twitter, you can fond many discussions of CRT where Ibram Kendi himself says his opponents are lying pr being racist. I can pretty much guarantee that Youngkin voters are quite aware of what CRT is and that they themselves are considered lying, racist or stupid. If CRT didn't get them, then their "stupidity" for thinking schools should have opened earlier or that parents should have a say in education did.

It's really long passed the time to be pretending everybody is stupid, lying, or racist except you.

Pretending?

Ok. If it’s so obvious what the definition is and so easy to provide examples of that happening in VA, please share. You can copy and paste from those posts.

DP. JFC. Can you not read? There is a post right here that copied directly from the VA Dept. of Education. They set the curriculum in VA. This is the BS they are pushing. Teachers are trained using these "resources" and are expected to incorporate them into the classroom. What about this do you not understand? Are you really this dumb?

That isn’t the definition of CRT. Still waiting on that…

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Anonymous wrote:I should add that mentally, I have a hard time accepting that any Republican wins any election. I have literally never met a Republican voter!

This is so sad. What a narrow, limited life you must live.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you mean the long thread titled “CRT s not being taught in VA schools!” in which no one can even agree on a definition, let alone provide examples?

Plenty of examples on that thread and all the people supporting CRT say is "liar" and "racist." There is another thread about liberals concerned with identity politics, in which all the liberals who don't like identity politics are told they are liars and racists. On Twitter, you can fond many discussions of CRT where Ibram Kendi himself says his opponents are lying pr being racist. I can pretty much guarantee that Youngkin voters are quite aware of what CRT is and that they themselves are considered lying, racist or stupid. If CRT didn't get them, then their "stupidity" for thinking schools should have opened earlier or that parents should have a say in education did.

It's really long passed the time to be pretending everybody is stupid, lying, or racist except you.

Pretending?

Ok. If it’s so obvious what the definition is and so easy to provide examples of that happening in VA, please share. You can copy and paste from those posts.

DP. JFC. Can you not read? There is a post right here that copied directly from the VA Dept. of Education. They set the curriculum in VA. This is the BS they are pushing. Teachers are trained using these "resources" and are expected to incorporate them into the classroom. What about this do you not understand? Are you really this dumb?

That isn’t the definition of CRT. Still waiting on that…

Oh - we're dealing with Literals again. No critical thinking skills, whatsoever. The definition of CRT has been posted here many times, you simply choose to ignore it. The training materials used in FCPS are derived directly from CRT. If YOU don't understand what CRT is, I suggest you do some research of your own. Plenty of info on your google machine.

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Anonymous wrote:I should add that mentally, I have a hard time accepting that any Republican wins any election. I have literally never met a Republican voter!

This is so sad. What a narrow, limited life you must live.

Not at all, and what a weird thing to say. I just can’t understand how this state went red.

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Anonymous wrote:I should add that mentally, I have a hard time accepting that any Republican wins any election. I have literally never met a Republican voter!

This is so sad. What a narrow, limited life you must live.

Not at all, and what a weird thing to say. I just can’t understand how this state went red.

Well, bless your heart! I mean, seriously? You "have literally never met a Republican voter" doesn't strike you as a weird thing to say? Living in an echo chamber for your entire life is indeed, a narrow existence.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you mean the long thread titled “CRT s not being taught in VA schools!” in which no one can even agree on a definition, let alone provide examples?

Plenty of examples on that thread and all the people supporting CRT say is "liar" and "racist." There is another thread about liberals concerned with identity politics, in which all the liberals who don't like identity politics are told they are liars and racists. On Twitter, you can fond many discussions of CRT where Ibram Kendi himself says his opponents are lying pr being racist. I can pretty much guarantee that Youngkin voters are quite aware of what CRT is and that they themselves are considered lying, racist or stupid. If CRT didn't get them, then their "stupidity" for thinking schools should have opened earlier or that parents should have a say in education did.

It's really long passed the time to be pretending everybody is stupid, lying, or racist except you.

Pretending?

Ok. If it’s so obvious what the definition is and so easy to provide examples of that happening in VA, please share. You can copy and paste from those posts.

DP. JFC. Can you not read? There is a post right here that copied directly from the VA Dept. of Education. They set the curriculum in VA. This is the BS they are pushing. Teachers are trained using these "resources" and are expected to incorporate them into the classroom. What about this do you not understand? Are you really this dumb?

That isn’t the definition of CRT. Still waiting on that…

Oh - we're dealing with Literals again. No critical thinking skills, whatsoever. The definition of CRT has been posted here many times, you simply choose to ignore it. The training materials used in FCPS are derived directly from CRT. If YOU don't understand what CRT is, I suggest you do some research of your own. Plenty of info on your google machine.

Right. So if it were THAT easy you’d easily be able to copy/paste or link to “the definition” no problem. But you haven’t…

There is a 40+ page thread debating the definition and examples. You guys can’t even settle on your new definition.

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Anonymous wrote:I should add that mentally, I have a hard time accepting that any Republican wins any election. I have literally never met a Republican voter!

And this is something you actually tell people?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you mean the long thread titled “CRT s not being taught in VA schools!” in which no one can even agree on a definition, let alone provide examples?

Plenty of examples on that thread and all the people supporting CRT say is "liar" and "racist." There is another thread about liberals concerned with identity politics, in which all the liberals who don't like identity politics are told they are liars and racists. On Twitter, you can fond many discussions of CRT where Ibram Kendi himself says his opponents are lying pr being racist. I can pretty much guarantee that Youngkin voters are quite aware of what CRT is and that they themselves are considered lying, racist or stupid. If CRT didn't get them, then their "stupidity" for thinking schools should have opened earlier or that parents should have a say in education did.

It's really long passed the time to be pretending everybody is stupid, lying, or racist except you.

Pretending?

Ok. If it’s so obvious what the definition is and so easy to provide examples of that happening in VA, please share. You can copy and paste from those posts.

DP. JFC. Can you not read? There is a post right here that copied directly from the VA Dept. of Education. They set the curriculum in VA. This is the BS they are pushing. Teachers are trained using these "resources" and are expected to incorporate them into the classroom. What about this do you not understand? Are you really this dumb?

That isn’t the definition of CRT. Still waiting on that…

Oh - we're dealing with Literals again. No critical thinking skills, whatsoever. The definition of CRT has been posted here many times, you simply choose to ignore it. The training materials used in FCPS are derived directly from CRT. If YOU don't understand what CRT is, I suggest you do some research of your own. Plenty of info on your google machine.

Right. So if it were THAT easy you’d easily be able to copy/paste or link to “the definition” no problem. But you haven’t…

There is a 40+ page thread debating the definition and examples. You guys can’t even settle on your new definition.

If you had actually read the entire thread, you'd have seen the definition posted and reposted. So either you're too lazy to read it all, or too dumb to understand what you're reading. I can't help you with either issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you mean the long thread titled “CRT s not being taught in VA schools!” in which no one can even agree on a definition, let alone provide examples?

Plenty of examples on that thread and all the people supporting CRT say is "liar" and "racist." There is another thread about liberals concerned with identity politics, in which all the liberals who don't like identity politics are told they are liars and racists. On Twitter, you can fond many discussions of CRT where Ibram Kendi himself says his opponents are lying pr being racist. I can pretty much guarantee that Youngkin voters are quite aware of what CRT is and that they themselves are considered lying, racist or stupid. If CRT didn't get them, then their "stupidity" for thinking schools should have opened earlier or that parents should have a say in education did.

It's really long passed the time to be pretending everybody is stupid, lying, or racist except you.

Pretending?

Ok. If it’s so obvious what the definition is and so easy to provide examples of that happening in VA, please share. You can copy and paste from those posts.

DP. JFC. Can you not read? There is a post right here that copied directly from the VA Dept. of Education. They set the curriculum in VA. This is the BS they are pushing. Teachers are trained using these "resources" and are expected to incorporate them into the classroom. What about this do you not understand? Are you really this dumb?

That isn’t the definition of CRT. Still waiting on that…

Oh - we're dealing with Literals again. No critical thinking skills, whatsoever. The definition of CRT has been posted here many times, you simply choose to ignore it. The training materials used in FCPS are derived directly from CRT. If YOU don't understand what CRT is, I suggest you do some research of your own. Plenty of info on your google machine.

Right. So if it were THAT easy you’d easily be able to copy/paste or link to “the definition” no problem. But you haven’t…

There is a 40+ page thread debating the definition and examples. You guys can’t even settle on your new definition.

If you had actually read the entire thread, you'd have seen the definition posted and reposted. So either you're too lazy to read it all, or too dumb to understand what you're reading. I can't help you with either issue.

I have read this whole thread and seen various opinions of what “the definition” is (beyond the law theory).

Again, if it’s so easy to define you could it.

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Anonymous wrote:I should add that mentally, I have a hard time accepting that any Republican wins any election. I have literally never met a Republican voter!

This is so sad. What a narrow, limited life you must live.

Not at all, and what a weird thing to say. I just can’t understand how this state went red.

Look in the mirror. It is a wonder you have to ask given how smart you are.

Also, it is healthy for the major parties to alternate. The biggest winners are the independents and moderates who don’t worship in the temples of the Dems and GOP — both of which are political versions of organized religions. Change is hard. It can and will get ugly, but in 20-30 years things will turnaround for the country will make it better. This election actually invigorated me knowing that the blue-ans-red striped voters are gaining momentum and numbers. -Biden supporter in 2020; also CRT and transgender bathrooms didn’t factor into my voting decision but mismanagement of FCPS and lack of educational focus certainly had some role

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Anonymous wrote:Do you mean the long thread titled “CRT s not being taught in VA schools!” in which no one can even agree on a definition, let alone provide examples?

Plenty of examples on that thread and all the people supporting CRT say is "liar" and "racist." There is another thread about liberals concerned with identity politics, in which all the liberals who don't like identity politics are told they are liars and racists. On Twitter, you can fond many discussions of CRT where Ibram Kendi himself says his opponents are lying pr being racist. I can pretty much guarantee that Youngkin voters are quite aware of what CRT is and that they themselves are considered lying, racist or stupid. If CRT didn't get them, then their "stupidity" for thinking schools should have opened earlier or that parents should have a say in education did.

It's really long passed the time to be pretending everybody is stupid, lying, or racist except you.

Pretending?

Ok. If it’s so obvious what the definition is and so easy to provide examples of that happening in VA, please share. You can copy and paste from those posts.

DP. JFC. Can you not read? There is a post right here that copied directly from the VA Dept. of Education. They set the curriculum in VA. This is the BS they are pushing. Teachers are trained using these "resources" and are expected to incorporate them into the classroom. What about this do you not understand? Are you really this dumb?

That isn’t the definition of CRT. Still waiting on that…

Oh - we're dealing with Literals again. No critical thinking skills, whatsoever. The definition of CRT has been posted here many times, you simply choose to ignore it. The training materials used in FCPS are derived directly from CRT. If YOU don't understand what CRT is, I suggest you do some research of your own. Plenty of info on your google machine.

Right. So if it were THAT easy you’d easily be able to copy/paste or link to “the definition” no problem. But you haven’t…

There is a 40+ page thread debating the definition and examples. You guys can’t even settle on your new definition.

If you had actually read the entire thread, you'd have seen the definition posted and reposted. So either you're too lazy to read it all, or too dumb to understand what you're reading. I can't help you with either issue.

I have read this whole thread and seen various opinions of what “the definition” is (beyond the law theory).

Again, if it’s so easy to define you could it.

Go look up Kendi’s Atlantic article, also I believe there’s a recording of his presentation to FCPS