DC police a d mayor protecting gangs by calling it neighborhood dispute

[Anonymous]

Please stop this crap. These scum are gangs

D.C. Police Chief Peter Newsham characterized the killing as "one of these senseless disputes between two neighborhood groups."

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/DC-15-Year-Olds-Death-May-Have-Been-Result-of-Neighborhood-Dispute-503171381.html

[Anonymous]

No, I don’t think that’s what is going on. Police and federal law enforcement distinguish between neighborhood gangs and interstate/international ones.

And most disputes among all gangs ARE senseless.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know if it’s sad or sick that it’s the verbiage which troubles you the most about this story.

[Anonymous]

Yeah typical dispute between neighborhoods



"On a wall near Watson’s home, the words “(expletive) Spread gang” and “(expletive) Leek” are written. Holston goes by the nickname Leek."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah typical dispute between neighborhoods

"On a wall near Watson’s home, the words “(expletive) Spread gang” and “(expletive) Leek” are written. Holston goes by the nickname Leek."

I saw a tweet couple weeks ago saying “(expletive) Capital Weather Gang”.
Guess the folks who handle reporting of local, national and international weather news for The Washington Post are scum too since they refer to themselves as a gang.

[Anonymous]

Not saying it's gangs, but it's gangs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not saying it's gangs, but it's gangs

No, not really.


A gang, in law enforcement vernacular, means a specific set of common criteria, a standardization, for a group to be considered a gang.

Most gangs have:

A declared name, known outside of the immediate area, usually an affiliation with a national or international gang (MS13, 18th ST, Warlords, 1%’r biker clubs)

A well defined leadership hierarchy, in the local chapter, and overall.

Well known rules of conduct, membership, and clothing.

A territory

A source of income (drugs, prostitution, extortion, etc)

A well defined process for which new members are inducted, order maintained, and how discipline is meted out.



These are some of the things that make a gang a gang.



DC doesn’t have stuff like this. DC has crews. Guys who grew up on the same block or in the same project, and hang together. Their affiliation is based on geography and on knowing each other their whole lives. Beyond that, they don’t resemble a traditional gang at all.

A MS13 member from Kansas City could come to Manassass, check in with the local MS leader here, and be admitted into the local chapter as a transfer member. They already know the rules, it’s just like a corporate transfer.

But a kid from Barry Farms would never be welcome in Clay Terrace. They would always be an outsider.


That’s why the police are correct when they say it’s not a gang thing. Because DC urban yoots aren’t organized enough to form gangs. They only know the guys on their corner.

[Anonymous]

We had this same conversation three years ago, OP.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/484245.page

[Anonymous]

I’m seeing more and more gang graffiti around DC but Mayor ‘Vison Zero’ Bowser disbanded the former graffiti eradication unit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m seeing more and more gang graffiti around DC but Mayor ‘Vison Zero’ Bowser disbanded the former graffiti eradication unit.

Mayor Muriel Bowser won her second term in office in November, the first D.C. mayor to do so since 2002 and the first woman in the city to do it ever.
Bowser will be sworn in on January 2. The ceremony will begin at 9:30 a.m. at the Walter E. Washington Convention Center at Mount Vernon Place Northwest.
It’s scheduled to end at noon, but street closures and emergency no parking zones will be in effect until 6 p.m.
Why don't you go and say "Hi"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, I don’t think that’s what is going on. Police and federal law enforcement distinguish between neighborhood gangs and interstate/international ones.

And most disputes among all gangs ARE senseless.

+1

And I don't see how not calling it a gang is "protecting" the gang. It's not like police don't investigate non-gang shootings, too.

[Anonymous]

Because words mean things. And "gang" is the incorrect word to describe the neighborhood-affiliated groups that are being discussed.

The same way that "c-a-t" is the wrong word to describe pets that are of the canine species.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because words mean things. And "gang" is the incorrect word to describe the neighborhood-affiliated groups that are being discussed.

The same way that "c-a-t" is the wrong word to describe pets that are of the canine species.

Was probably unintentional but there is some truth to your sarcasm.
Gangs have two very distinct characteristics (they're organized...they operate in criminal activity) that set them apart from just a group of juveniles who from the same neighborhood who hang out together.
So yes, two gangs may fight for control of a turf to see who will control the drug trade or the crime (stealing cars and robbing liquor stores etc) in certain areas...
But two groups of juveniles from respective projects who don't operate in any criminal activity but just talk shit to one another at bus stops and basketball courts and foolishly end up taking things too far is something entirely different - it's a neighborhood dispute.

[Anonymous]

I don't care if these people are in gangs or not. The violence and killing needs to stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because words mean things. And "gang" is the incorrect word to describe the neighborhood-affiliated groups that are being discussed.

The same way that "c-a-t" is the wrong word to describe pets that are of the canine species.

Was probably unintentional but there is some truth to your sarcasm.
Gangs have two very distinct characteristics (they're organized...they operate in criminal activity) that set them apart from just a group of juveniles who from the same neighborhood who hang out together.
So yes, two gangs may fight for control of a turf to see who will control the drug trade or the crime (stealing cars and robbing liquor stores etc) in certain areas...
But two groups of juveniles from respective projects who don't operate in any criminal activity but just talk shit to one another at bus stops and basketball courts and foolishly end up taking things too far is something entirely different - it's a neighborhood dispute.

Exactly right.


Why people can’t grasp that is beyond me.