FCPS Skyview Boundary Revised Scenario 1 / 2

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the June Newsletter that Moon just sent out describes Crossfield:

Originally opened in 1988, Crossfield Elementary has long served generations of students and families in the Herndon and Reston communities.

So why again are they still going to high school in Oakton, the 5th closest high school to them?

Quoted from their website, which describes why 🤦🏻‍♀️

“Our kids are not just numbers.
They are future graduates, athletes, artists, and leaders whose success depends on stability and support.
They are part of a living, growing community — one that deserves consistency, care, and a voice in decisions that shape their future.”

They are so full of shit. -Crossfield parent who would rather go to the closer school.

Regardless of language on websites, let's be honest with ourselves: Proximity does not ALWAYS equal quality.

As a parent of an 8th grader at Carson, let me give you a preview of what Skyview will be like. It's going to look similar to the direction that Carson has been moving in for the past year. You'll have about a third of the kids there who are really committed to their studies and want to excel academically and participate in extracurriculars. Wonderful! The remaining student body will be bringing knives to school and reselling things they stole from Walmart. (No, these are not hypothetical happenings: These are two very real occurrences that happen at least once a month now at Carson. And this kind of activity has only gotten worse in the past 2 years.)

So ... sure. If that's the environment you want your child in for HS, go for it. Yes, ALL schools have unique challenges and none are immune from problems. And I have no doubt that Skyview will hire great staff. But be careful what you wish for when your top priority is attending the "closer school."

You do realize that all of Crossfield except a small part, already goes to Carson now right? If Crossfield is fine with Carson, which they are, and Skyview will be the same as Carson as you claim, they should be fine with Skyview.

Oh wait…something something rooted in a zip code 10 miles away something something.

The irony of the rooted in Oakton people is their lobbying to be sent to a “poorer” performing middle school (Franklin) which, let’s be honest, is masked by the fact that their AAP kids will stay at Carson anyway.

In summary, they got their entire school moved to a lower performing middle school, knowing their own kids would stay at the higher performing middle school, all to justify their weird obsession with a high school an hour from their house by bus.

I hope the school board sees right through that.

I have a third grader, a THIRD GRADER, who is already telling me that all of his friends in AAP will still go to Carson even though we're being rezoned to Franklin.

they are wrong. franklin will have AAP by 2030. they are in the last group of middle schools to implement. if your child isn’t in the first group at franklin required to stay for AAP it will be the grade after

My POINT was that nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP as long as Carson is an option. This has been known from the start. The people who were proposing Franklin have kids in AAP and they KNEW they would be able to keep their kids at Carson. Remember, they proposed this BEFORE the middle school AAP conversation happened in the school board. And even then, the parents advocating for Oakton primarily have kids in 5th+ so the absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP.

If nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP if Carson is an option, why were there 90 Level 4 kids there the year my child was there? Why is my neighbor's kid in a Level 4 class there this year? Why has there been a cohort of Level 4 kids at Franklin every year?

Do you know every single parent of a Level 4 kid, so you are confident to say thet "they absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP"? 🙄

Aren’t level 3 & 4 mixed at Franklin?

There is no level 3 anymore, they got rid of the levels a few years back and I cannot remember what they are calling things now. That aside, because I still think of them as levels, there never was Level 3 in MS. MS was only AAP/L4/Full time. ES L3 kids took honors classes.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the June Newsletter that Moon just sent out describes Crossfield:

Originally opened in 1988, Crossfield Elementary has long served generations of students and families in the Herndon and Reston communities.

So why again are they still going to high school in Oakton, the 5th closest high school to them?

Quoted from their website, which describes why 🤦🏻‍♀️

“Our kids are not just numbers.
They are future graduates, athletes, artists, and leaders whose success depends on stability and support.
They are part of a living, growing community — one that deserves consistency, care, and a voice in decisions that shape their future.”

They are so full of shit. -Crossfield parent who would rather go to the closer school.

Regardless of language on websites, let's be honest with ourselves: Proximity does not ALWAYS equal quality.

As a parent of an 8th grader at Carson, let me give you a preview of what Skyview will be like. It's going to look similar to the direction that Carson has been moving in for the past year. You'll have about a third of the kids there who are really committed to their studies and want to excel academically and participate in extracurriculars. Wonderful! The remaining student body will be bringing knives to school and reselling things they stole from Walmart. (No, these are not hypothetical happenings: These are two very real occurrences that happen at least once a month now at Carson. And this kind of activity has only gotten worse in the past 2 years.)

So ... sure. If that's the environment you want your child in for HS, go for it. Yes, ALL schools have unique challenges and none are immune from problems. And I have no doubt that Skyview will hire great staff. But be careful what you wish for when your top priority is attending the "closer school."

You do realize that all of Crossfield except a small part, already goes to Carson now right? If Crossfield is fine with Carson, which they are, and Skyview will be the same as Carson as you claim, they should be fine with Skyview.

Oh wait…something something rooted in a zip code 10 miles away something something.

The irony of the rooted in Oakton people is their lobbying to be sent to a “poorer” performing middle school (Franklin) which, let’s be honest, is masked by the fact that their AAP kids will stay at Carson anyway.

In summary, they got their entire school moved to a lower performing middle school, knowing their own kids would stay at the higher performing middle school, all to justify their weird obsession with a high school an hour from their house by bus.

I hope the school board sees right through that.

I have a third grader, a THIRD GRADER, who is already telling me that all of his friends in AAP will still go to Carson even though we're being rezoned to Franklin.

they are wrong. franklin will have AAP by 2030. they are in the last group of middle schools to implement. if your child isn’t in the first group at franklin required to stay for AAP it will be the grade after

My POINT was that nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP as long as Carson is an option. This has been known from the start. The people who were proposing Franklin have kids in AAP and they KNEW they would be able to keep their kids at Carson. Remember, they proposed this BEFORE the middle school AAP conversation happened in the school board. And even then, the parents advocating for Oakton primarily have kids in 5th+ so the absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP.

If nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP if Carson is an option, why were there 90 Level 4 kids there the year my child was there? Why is my neighbor's kid in a Level 4 class there this year? Why has there been a cohort of Level 4 kids at Franklin every year?

Do you know every single parent of a Level 4 kid, so you are confident to say thet "they absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP"? 🙄

From what I saw in Navy, very few of aap level 4 kids chose Franklin in my daughter's grade. They have been encouraging kids to go Franklin for quite a few years. I don't understand why they allow kids to choose carson when Franklin already has level 4 aap. Isn't fcps short of budget every year? They always look to increase budget instead of trying to save money. I started voting for NO for any issuing of bonds on the ballots. Property tax has been going up like crazy and still not enough.

If they just cut out the center choice, then Franklin would be overcrowded and Carson would be well under capacity. I think any plan to bring all the AAP kids back to Franklin will involve another boundary change. I'm expecting it to be moving some or all of Crossfield out to Hughes/South Lakes or Carson/Skyview. Maybe the combination of both proposed earlier in this thread in order to make room at Oakton HS as well.

They’re not going to move Crossfield into Franklin and then move them out 2 years later. I know they rarely follow Policy 8130, which says not to move the same students more than once over a 3 year period. But in this case, undoing changes from the Skyview study to apply AAP at all MS — an initiative they were fully aware of when building these scenarios, would be them admitting to a giant mistake, which they never do. No, Franklin-Chantilly kids will be shuffled to Rocky Run to make room.

They caused the same problem at Thoreau when they moved Wolftrap there. When the AAP students return to Thoreau and it becomes (more) overcrowded, they aren’t sending Wolftrap back to Kilmer. They’re going to boot the Oakton schools to Jackson.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the June Newsletter that Moon just sent out describes Crossfield:

Originally opened in 1988, Crossfield Elementary has long served generations of students and families in the Herndon and Reston communities.

So why again are they still going to high school in Oakton, the 5th closest high school to them?

Quoted from their website, which describes why 🤦🏻‍♀️

“Our kids are not just numbers.
They are future graduates, athletes, artists, and leaders whose success depends on stability and support.
They are part of a living, growing community — one that deserves consistency, care, and a voice in decisions that shape their future.”

They are so full of shit. -Crossfield parent who would rather go to the closer school.

Regardless of language on websites, let's be honest with ourselves: Proximity does not ALWAYS equal quality.

As a parent of an 8th grader at Carson, let me give you a preview of what Skyview will be like. It's going to look similar to the direction that Carson has been moving in for the past year. You'll have about a third of the kids there who are really committed to their studies and want to excel academically and participate in extracurriculars. Wonderful! The remaining student body will be bringing knives to school and reselling things they stole from Walmart. (No, these are not hypothetical happenings: These are two very real occurrences that happen at least once a month now at Carson. And this kind of activity has only gotten worse in the past 2 years.)

So ... sure. If that's the environment you want your child in for HS, go for it. Yes, ALL schools have unique challenges and none are immune from problems. And I have no doubt that Skyview will hire great staff. But be careful what you wish for when your top priority is attending the "closer school."

You do realize that all of Crossfield except a small part, already goes to Carson now right? If Crossfield is fine with Carson, which they are, and Skyview will be the same as Carson as you claim, they should be fine with Skyview.

Oh wait…something something rooted in a zip code 10 miles away something something.

The irony of the rooted in Oakton people is their lobbying to be sent to a “poorer” performing middle school (Franklin) which, let’s be honest, is masked by the fact that their AAP kids will stay at Carson anyway.

In summary, they got their entire school moved to a lower performing middle school, knowing their own kids would stay at the higher performing middle school, all to justify their weird obsession with a high school an hour from their house by bus.

I hope the school board sees right through that.

I have a third grader, a THIRD GRADER, who is already telling me that all of his friends in AAP will still go to Carson even though we're being rezoned to Franklin.

they are wrong. franklin will have AAP by 2030. they are in the last group of middle schools to implement. if your child isn’t in the first group at franklin required to stay for AAP it will be the grade after

My POINT was that nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP as long as Carson is an option. This has been known from the start. The people who were proposing Franklin have kids in AAP and they KNEW they would be able to keep their kids at Carson. Remember, they proposed this BEFORE the middle school AAP conversation happened in the school board. And even then, the parents advocating for Oakton primarily have kids in 5th+ so the absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP.

If nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP if Carson is an option, why were there 90 Level 4 kids there the year my child was there? Why is my neighbor's kid in a Level 4 class there this year? Why has there been a cohort of Level 4 kids at Franklin every year?

Do you know every single parent of a Level 4 kid, so you are confident to say thet "they absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP"? 🙄

From what I saw in Navy, very few of aap level 4 kids chose Franklin in my daughter's grade. They have been encouraging kids to go Franklin for quite a few years. I don't understand why they allow kids to choose carson when Franklin already has level 4 aap. Isn't fcps short of budget every year? They always look to increase budget instead of trying to save money. I started voting for NO for any issuing of bonds on the ballots. Property tax has been going up like crazy and still not enough.

They haven’t been encouraging Franklin exactly. They provide tours of both as an option. Students have always had a choice and Carson is a really good middle school so most opt in. (I’m not saying Franklin is not, just that Carson carries a better academic reputation).

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Franklin would be equal to Carson in math comps and sending kids to TJ if parents sent their AAP kids to Franklin. But parents seem to struggle to see that for some reason.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the June Newsletter that Moon just sent out describes Crossfield:

Originally opened in 1988, Crossfield Elementary has long served generations of students and families in the Herndon and Reston communities.

So why again are they still going to high school in Oakton, the 5th closest high school to them?

Quoted from their website, which describes why 🤦🏻‍♀️

“Our kids are not just numbers.
They are future graduates, athletes, artists, and leaders whose success depends on stability and support.
They are part of a living, growing community — one that deserves consistency, care, and a voice in decisions that shape their future.”

They are so full of shit. -Crossfield parent who would rather go to the closer school.

Regardless of language on websites, let's be honest with ourselves: Proximity does not ALWAYS equal quality.

As a parent of an 8th grader at Carson, let me give you a preview of what Skyview will be like. It's going to look similar to the direction that Carson has been moving in for the past year. You'll have about a third of the kids there who are really committed to their studies and want to excel academically and participate in extracurriculars. Wonderful! The remaining student body will be bringing knives to school and reselling things they stole from Walmart. (No, these are not hypothetical happenings: These are two very real occurrences that happen at least once a month now at Carson. And this kind of activity has only gotten worse in the past 2 years.)

So ... sure. If that's the environment you want your child in for HS, go for it. Yes, ALL schools have unique challenges and none are immune from problems. And I have no doubt that Skyview will hire great staff. But be careful what you wish for when your top priority is attending the "closer school."

You do realize that all of Crossfield except a small part, already goes to Carson now right? If Crossfield is fine with Carson, which they are, and Skyview will be the same as Carson as you claim, they should be fine with Skyview.

Oh wait…something something rooted in a zip code 10 miles away something something.

The irony of the rooted in Oakton people is their lobbying to be sent to a “poorer” performing middle school (Franklin) which, let’s be honest, is masked by the fact that their AAP kids will stay at Carson anyway.

In summary, they got their entire school moved to a lower performing middle school, knowing their own kids would stay at the higher performing middle school, all to justify their weird obsession with a high school an hour from their house by bus.

I hope the school board sees right through that.

I have a third grader, a THIRD GRADER, who is already telling me that all of his friends in AAP will still go to Carson even though we're being rezoned to Franklin.

they are wrong. franklin will have AAP by 2030. they are in the last group of middle schools to implement. if your child isn’t in the first group at franklin required to stay for AAP it will be the grade after

My POINT was that nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP as long as Carson is an option. This has been known from the start. The people who were proposing Franklin have kids in AAP and they KNEW they would be able to keep their kids at Carson. Remember, they proposed this BEFORE the middle school AAP conversation happened in the school board. And even then, the parents advocating for Oakton primarily have kids in 5th+ so the absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP.

If nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP if Carson is an option, why were there 90 Level 4 kids there the year my child was there? Why is my neighbor's kid in a Level 4 class there this year? Why has there been a cohort of Level 4 kids at Franklin every year?

Do you know every single parent of a Level 4 kid, so you are confident to say thet "they absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP"? 🙄

From what I saw in Navy, very few of aap level 4 kids chose Franklin in my daughter's grade. They have been encouraging kids to go Franklin for quite a few years. I don't understand why they allow kids to choose carson when Franklin already has level 4 aap. Isn't fcps short of budget every year? They always look to increase budget instead of trying to save money. I started voting for NO for any issuing of bonds on the ballots. Property tax has been going up like crazy and still not enough.

If they just cut out the center choice, then Franklin would be overcrowded and Carson would be well under capacity. I think any plan to bring all the AAP kids back to Franklin will involve another boundary change. I'm expecting it to be moving some or all of Crossfield out to Hughes/South Lakes or Carson/Skyview. Maybe the combination of both proposed earlier in this thread in order to make room at Oakton HS as well.

They’re not going to move Crossfield into Franklin and then move them out 2 years later. I know they rarely follow Policy 8130, which says not to move the same students more than once over a 3 year period. But in this case, undoing changes from the Skyview study to apply AAP at all MS — an initiative they were fully aware of when building these scenarios, would be them admitting to a giant mistake, which they never do. No, Franklin-Chantilly kids will be shuffled to Rocky Run to make room.

They caused the same problem at Thoreau when they moved Wolftrap there. When the AAP students return to Thoreau and it becomes (more) overcrowded, they aren’t sending Wolftrap back to Kilmer. They’re going to boot the Oakton schools to Jackson.

They're more likely to move Lees Corner to Rocky Run than to move Crossfield out of Franklin. And yes, I know that Franklin is within Lee's Corner's boundaries but the AAP changes will require significant boundary changes as the centers go well under capacity and the base schools go way over.

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Anonymous wrote:Franklin would be equal to Carson in math comps and sending kids to TJ if parents sent their AAP kids to Franklin. But parents seem to struggle to see that for some reason.

Plus, didn't you know that Carson is full of weapons, gangs, and drugs? I'm shocked that AAP parents send their precious kids there, LOL

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Anonymous wrote:Franklin would be equal to Carson in math comps and sending kids to TJ if parents sent their AAP kids to Franklin. But parents seem to struggle to see that for some reason.

Plus, didn't you know that Carson is full of weapons, gangs, and drugs? I'm shocked that AAP parents send their precious kids there, LOL

LOL The Oakton parents complaining probably have kids at Carson as AAP transfers.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the June Newsletter that Moon just sent out describes Crossfield:

Originally opened in 1988, Crossfield Elementary has long served generations of students and families in the Herndon and Reston communities.

So why again are they still going to high school in Oakton, the 5th closest high school to them?

Quoted from their website, which describes why 🤦🏻‍♀️

“Our kids are not just numbers.
They are future graduates, athletes, artists, and leaders whose success depends on stability and support.
They are part of a living, growing community — one that deserves consistency, care, and a voice in decisions that shape their future.”

They are so full of shit. -Crossfield parent who would rather go to the closer school.

Regardless of language on websites, let's be honest with ourselves: Proximity does not ALWAYS equal quality.

As a parent of an 8th grader at Carson, let me give you a preview of what Skyview will be like. It's going to look similar to the direction that Carson has been moving in for the past year. You'll have about a third of the kids there who are really committed to their studies and want to excel academically and participate in extracurriculars. Wonderful! The remaining student body will be bringing knives to school and reselling things they stole from Walmart. (No, these are not hypothetical happenings: These are two very real occurrences that happen at least once a month now at Carson. And this kind of activity has only gotten worse in the past 2 years.)

So ... sure. If that's the environment you want your child in for HS, go for it. Yes, ALL schools have unique challenges and none are immune from problems. And I have no doubt that Skyview will hire great staff. But be careful what you wish for when your top priority is attending the "closer school."

You do realize that all of Crossfield except a small part, already goes to Carson now right? If Crossfield is fine with Carson, which they are, and Skyview will be the same as Carson as you claim, they should be fine with Skyview.

Oh wait…something something rooted in a zip code 10 miles away something something.

The irony of the rooted in Oakton people is their lobbying to be sent to a “poorer” performing middle school (Franklin) which, let’s be honest, is masked by the fact that their AAP kids will stay at Carson anyway.

In summary, they got their entire school moved to a lower performing middle school, knowing their own kids would stay at the higher performing middle school, all to justify their weird obsession with a high school an hour from their house by bus.

I hope the school board sees right through that.

I have a third grader, a THIRD GRADER, who is already telling me that all of his friends in AAP will still go to Carson even though we're being rezoned to Franklin.

they are wrong. franklin will have AAP by 2030. they are in the last group of middle schools to implement. if your child isn’t in the first group at franklin required to stay for AAP it will be the grade after

My POINT was that nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP as long as Carson is an option. This has been known from the start. The people who were proposing Franklin have kids in AAP and they KNEW they would be able to keep their kids at Carson. Remember, they proposed this BEFORE the middle school AAP conversation happened in the school board. And even then, the parents advocating for Oakton primarily have kids in 5th+ so the absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP.

If nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP if Carson is an option, why were there 90 Level 4 kids there the year my child was there? Why is my neighbor's kid in a Level 4 class there this year? Why has there been a cohort of Level 4 kids at Franklin every year?

Do you know every single parent of a Level 4 kid, so you are confident to say thet "they absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP"? 🙄

From what I saw in Navy, very few of aap level 4 kids chose Franklin in my daughter's grade. They have been encouraging kids to go Franklin for quite a few years. I don't understand why they allow kids to choose carson when Franklin already has level 4 aap. Isn't fcps short of budget every year? They always look to increase budget instead of trying to save money. I started voting for NO for any issuing of bonds on the ballots. Property tax has been going up like crazy and still not enough.

They haven’t been encouraging Franklin exactly. They provide tours of both as an option. Students have always had a choice and Carson is a really good middle school so most opt in. (I’m not saying Franklin is not, just that Carson carries a better academic reputation).

My DC chose Carson over Franklin since all the friends went there. Fcps should remove ES AAP center first, so the same ES kids go to same MS without being separate from their friends from a different ES.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the June Newsletter that Moon just sent out describes Crossfield:

Originally opened in 1988, Crossfield Elementary has long served generations of students and families in the Herndon and Reston communities.

So why again are they still going to high school in Oakton, the 5th closest high school to them?

Quoted from their website, which describes why 🤦🏻‍♀️

“Our kids are not just numbers.
They are future graduates, athletes, artists, and leaders whose success depends on stability and support.
They are part of a living, growing community — one that deserves consistency, care, and a voice in decisions that shape their future.”

They are so full of shit. -Crossfield parent who would rather go to the closer school.

Regardless of language on websites, let's be honest with ourselves: Proximity does not ALWAYS equal quality.

As a parent of an 8th grader at Carson, let me give you a preview of what Skyview will be like. It's going to look similar to the direction that Carson has been moving in for the past year. You'll have about a third of the kids there who are really committed to their studies and want to excel academically and participate in extracurriculars. Wonderful! The remaining student body will be bringing knives to school and reselling things they stole from Walmart. (No, these are not hypothetical happenings: These are two very real occurrences that happen at least once a month now at Carson. And this kind of activity has only gotten worse in the past 2 years.)

So ... sure. If that's the environment you want your child in for HS, go for it. Yes, ALL schools have unique challenges and none are immune from problems. And I have no doubt that Skyview will hire great staff. But be careful what you wish for when your top priority is attending the "closer school."

You do realize that all of Crossfield except a small part, already goes to Carson now right? If Crossfield is fine with Carson, which they are, and Skyview will be the same as Carson as you claim, they should be fine with Skyview.

Oh wait…something something rooted in a zip code 10 miles away something something.

The irony of the rooted in Oakton people is their lobbying to be sent to a “poorer” performing middle school (Franklin) which, let’s be honest, is masked by the fact that their AAP kids will stay at Carson anyway.

In summary, they got their entire school moved to a lower performing middle school, knowing their own kids would stay at the higher performing middle school, all to justify their weird obsession with a high school an hour from their house by bus.

I hope the school board sees right through that.

I have a third grader, a THIRD GRADER, who is already telling me that all of his friends in AAP will still go to Carson even though we're being rezoned to Franklin.

they are wrong. franklin will have AAP by 2030. they are in the last group of middle schools to implement. if your child isn’t in the first group at franklin required to stay for AAP it will be the grade after

My POINT was that nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP as long as Carson is an option. This has been known from the start. The people who were proposing Franklin have kids in AAP and they KNEW they would be able to keep their kids at Carson. Remember, they proposed this BEFORE the middle school AAP conversation happened in the school board. And even then, the parents advocating for Oakton primarily have kids in 5th+ so the absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP.

If nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP if Carson is an option, why were there 90 Level 4 kids there the year my child was there? Why is my neighbor's kid in a Level 4 class there this year? Why has there been a cohort of Level 4 kids at Franklin every year?

Do you know every single parent of a Level 4 kid, so you are confident to say thet "they absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP"? 🙄

From what I saw in Navy, very few of aap level 4 kids chose Franklin in my daughter's grade. They have been encouraging kids to go Franklin for quite a few years. I don't understand why they allow kids to choose carson when Franklin already has level 4 aap. Isn't fcps short of budget every year? They always look to increase budget instead of trying to save money. I started voting for NO for any issuing of bonds on the ballots. Property tax has been going up like crazy and still not enough.

They haven’t been encouraging Franklin exactly. They provide tours of both as an option. Students have always had a choice and Carson is a really good middle school so most opt in. (I’m not saying Franklin is not, just that Carson carries a better academic reputation).

My DC chose Carson over Franklin since all the friends went there. Fcps should remove ES AAP center first, so the same ES kids go to same MS without being separate from their friends from a different ES.

Kids want to go with their friends. My kid opted in to Skyview as soon as it was available. No one else in his friend group seemed interested but he knew kids from other schools that were opting in and was fine with moving without a ton of his ES friends. Then a few of his friends started looking at it and opted in because they found the pathways interesting. By the 1 Mar date, all of his friend group had ended up opting-in, some because they were interested in the program, others because their friends were going to Skyview. Only 1 of the 15 or so kids we knew decided to return to the base HS and that was for sports.

You might be surprised to find that if more kids who are going to Carson because that is where their friends are going said "I am going to Franklin" how many kids might decide to go to Franklin because they knew kids who were staying. I suspect that there are more people who are on the fence about moving to Carson and just go with the flow.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the June Newsletter that Moon just sent out describes Crossfield:

Originally opened in 1988, Crossfield Elementary has long served generations of students and families in the Herndon and Reston communities.

So why again are they still going to high school in Oakton, the 5th closest high school to them?

Quoted from their website, which describes why 🤦🏻‍♀️

“Our kids are not just numbers.
They are future graduates, athletes, artists, and leaders whose success depends on stability and support.
They are part of a living, growing community — one that deserves consistency, care, and a voice in decisions that shape their future.”

They are so full of shit. -Crossfield parent who would rather go to the closer school.

Regardless of language on websites, let's be honest with ourselves: Proximity does not ALWAYS equal quality.

As a parent of an 8th grader at Carson, let me give you a preview of what Skyview will be like. It's going to look similar to the direction that Carson has been moving in for the past year. You'll have about a third of the kids there who are really committed to their studies and want to excel academically and participate in extracurriculars. Wonderful! The remaining student body will be bringing knives to school and reselling things they stole from Walmart. (No, these are not hypothetical happenings: These are two very real occurrences that happen at least once a month now at Carson. And this kind of activity has only gotten worse in the past 2 years.)

So ... sure. If that's the environment you want your child in for HS, go for it. Yes, ALL schools have unique challenges and none are immune from problems. And I have no doubt that Skyview will hire great staff. But be careful what you wish for when your top priority is attending the "closer school."

You do realize that all of Crossfield except a small part, already goes to Carson now right? If Crossfield is fine with Carson, which they are, and Skyview will be the same as Carson as you claim, they should be fine with Skyview.

Oh wait…something something rooted in a zip code 10 miles away something something.

The irony of the rooted in Oakton people is their lobbying to be sent to a “poorer” performing middle school (Franklin) which, let’s be honest, is masked by the fact that their AAP kids will stay at Carson anyway.

In summary, they got their entire school moved to a lower performing middle school, knowing their own kids would stay at the higher performing middle school, all to justify their weird obsession with a high school an hour from their house by bus.

I hope the school board sees right through that.

I have a third grader, a THIRD GRADER, who is already telling me that all of his friends in AAP will still go to Carson even though we're being rezoned to Franklin.

they are wrong. franklin will have AAP by 2030. they are in the last group of middle schools to implement. if your child isn’t in the first group at franklin required to stay for AAP it will be the grade after

My POINT was that nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP as long as Carson is an option. This has been known from the start. The people who were proposing Franklin have kids in AAP and they KNEW they would be able to keep their kids at Carson. Remember, they proposed this BEFORE the middle school AAP conversation happened in the school board. And even then, the parents advocating for Oakton primarily have kids in 5th+ so the absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP.

If nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP if Carson is an option, why were there 90 Level 4 kids there the year my child was there? Why is my neighbor's kid in a Level 4 class there this year? Why has there been a cohort of Level 4 kids at Franklin every year?

Do you know every single parent of a Level 4 kid, so you are confident to say thet "they absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP"? 🙄

From what I saw in Navy, very few of aap level 4 kids chose Franklin in my daughter's grade. They have been encouraging kids to go Franklin for quite a few years. I don't understand why they allow kids to choose carson when Franklin already has level 4 aap. Isn't fcps short of budget every year? They always look to increase budget instead of trying to save money. I started voting for NO for any issuing of bonds on the ballots. Property tax has been going up like crazy and still not enough.

They haven’t been encouraging Franklin exactly. They provide tours of both as an option. Students have always had a choice and Carson is a really good middle school so most opt in. (I’m not saying Franklin is not, just that Carson carries a better academic reputation).

My DC chose Carson over Franklin since all the friends went there. Fcps should remove ES AAP center first, so the same ES kids go to same MS without being separate from their friends from a different ES.

Kids want to go with their friends. My kid opted in to Skyview as soon as it was available. No one else in his friend group seemed interested but he knew kids from other schools that were opting in and was fine with moving without a ton of his ES friends. Then a few of his friends started looking at it and opted in because they found the pathways interesting. By the 1 Mar date, all of his friend group had ended up opting-in, some because they were interested in the program, others because their friends were going to Skyview. Only 1 of the 15 or so kids we knew decided to return to the base HS and that was for sports.

You might be surprised to find that if more kids who are going to Carson because that is where their friends are going said "I am going to Franklin" how many kids might decide to go to Franklin because they knew kids who were staying. I suspect that there are more people who are on the fence about moving to Carson and just go with the flow.

I think this makes complete sense. Kids want to be with their friends. Simple as that. Again, it goes back to the concept of keeping communities together.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the June Newsletter that Moon just sent out describes Crossfield:

Originally opened in 1988, Crossfield Elementary has long served generations of students and families in the Herndon and Reston communities.

So why again are they still going to high school in Oakton, the 5th closest high school to them?

Quoted from their website, which describes why 🤦🏻‍♀️

“Our kids are not just numbers.
They are future graduates, athletes, artists, and leaders whose success depends on stability and support.
They are part of a living, growing community — one that deserves consistency, care, and a voice in decisions that shape their future.”

They are so full of shit. -Crossfield parent who would rather go to the closer school.

Regardless of language on websites, let's be honest with ourselves: Proximity does not ALWAYS equal quality.

As a parent of an 8th grader at Carson, let me give you a preview of what Skyview will be like. It's going to look similar to the direction that Carson has been moving in for the past year. You'll have about a third of the kids there who are really committed to their studies and want to excel academically and participate in extracurriculars. Wonderful! The remaining student body will be bringing knives to school and reselling things they stole from Walmart. (No, these are not hypothetical happenings: These are two very real occurrences that happen at least once a month now at Carson. And this kind of activity has only gotten worse in the past 2 years.)

So ... sure. If that's the environment you want your child in for HS, go for it. Yes, ALL schools have unique challenges and none are immune from problems. And I have no doubt that Skyview will hire great staff. But be careful what you wish for when your top priority is attending the "closer school."

You do realize that all of Crossfield except a small part, already goes to Carson now right? If Crossfield is fine with Carson, which they are, and Skyview will be the same as Carson as you claim, they should be fine with Skyview.

Oh wait…something something rooted in a zip code 10 miles away something something.

The irony of the rooted in Oakton people is their lobbying to be sent to a “poorer” performing middle school (Franklin) which, let’s be honest, is masked by the fact that their AAP kids will stay at Carson anyway.

In summary, they got their entire school moved to a lower performing middle school, knowing their own kids would stay at the higher performing middle school, all to justify their weird obsession with a high school an hour from their house by bus.

I hope the school board sees right through that.

I have a third grader, a THIRD GRADER, who is already telling me that all of his friends in AAP will still go to Carson even though we're being rezoned to Franklin.

they are wrong. franklin will have AAP by 2030. they are in the last group of middle schools to implement. if your child isn’t in the first group at franklin required to stay for AAP it will be the grade after

My POINT was that nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP as long as Carson is an option. This has been known from the start. The people who were proposing Franklin have kids in AAP and they KNEW they would be able to keep their kids at Carson. Remember, they proposed this BEFORE the middle school AAP conversation happened in the school board. And even then, the parents advocating for Oakton primarily have kids in 5th+ so the absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP.

If nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP if Carson is an option, why were there 90 Level 4 kids there the year my child was there? Why is my neighbor's kid in a Level 4 class there this year? Why has there been a cohort of Level 4 kids at Franklin every year?

Do you know every single parent of a Level 4 kid, so you are confident to say thet "they absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP"? 🙄

From what I saw in Navy, very few of aap level 4 kids chose Franklin in my daughter's grade. They have been encouraging kids to go Franklin for quite a few years. I don't understand why they allow kids to choose carson when Franklin already has level 4 aap. Isn't fcps short of budget every year? They always look to increase budget instead of trying to save money. I started voting for NO for any issuing of bonds on the ballots. Property tax has been going up like crazy and still not enough.

If they just cut out the center choice, then Franklin would be overcrowded and Carson would be well under capacity. I think any plan to bring all the AAP kids back to Franklin will involve another boundary change. I'm expecting it to be moving some or all of Crossfield out to Hughes/South Lakes or Carson/Skyview. Maybe the combination of both proposed earlier in this thread in order to make room at Oakton HS as well.

They’re not going to move Crossfield into Franklin and then move them out 2 years later. I know they rarely follow Policy 8130, which says not to move the same students more than once over a 3 year period. But in this case, undoing changes from the Skyview study to apply AAP at all MS — an initiative they were fully aware of when building these scenarios, would be them admitting to a giant mistake, which they never do. No, Franklin-Chantilly kids will be shuffled to Rocky Run to make room.

They caused the same problem at Thoreau when they moved Wolftrap there. When the AAP students return to Thoreau and it becomes (more) overcrowded, they aren’t sending Wolftrap back to Kilmer. They’re going to boot the Oakton schools to Jackson.

Rocky Run is overloaded with Liberty and Stone AAP. 40% of the current membership. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/SY2025-26SullyMagisterialDistrict.pdf

Carson, Rocky Run, Stone, and Franklin are all in the Sully District. Liberty and Chantilly HS are in Springfield. Does the Springfield school board rep show up at meetings? Maybe this is why Chantilly has become the overcrowded mess - decades of lack of attention? Robyn Lady is Herndon/Dranesville but worked at Chantilly and has expressed more interest and concern than the actual rep.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the June Newsletter that Moon just sent out describes Crossfield:

Originally opened in 1988, Crossfield Elementary has long served generations of students and families in the Herndon and Reston communities.

So why again are they still going to high school in Oakton, the 5th closest high school to them?

Quoted from their website, which describes why 🤦🏻‍♀️

“Our kids are not just numbers.
They are future graduates, athletes, artists, and leaders whose success depends on stability and support.
They are part of a living, growing community — one that deserves consistency, care, and a voice in decisions that shape their future.”

They are so full of shit. -Crossfield parent who would rather go to the closer school.

Regardless of language on websites, let's be honest with ourselves: Proximity does not ALWAYS equal quality.

As a parent of an 8th grader at Carson, let me give you a preview of what Skyview will be like. It's going to look similar to the direction that Carson has been moving in for the past year. You'll have about a third of the kids there who are really committed to their studies and want to excel academically and participate in extracurriculars. Wonderful! The remaining student body will be bringing knives to school and reselling things they stole from Walmart. (No, these are not hypothetical happenings: These are two very real occurrences that happen at least once a month now at Carson. And this kind of activity has only gotten worse in the past 2 years.)

So ... sure. If that's the environment you want your child in for HS, go for it. Yes, ALL schools have unique challenges and none are immune from problems. And I have no doubt that Skyview will hire great staff. But be careful what you wish for when your top priority is attending the "closer school."

You do realize that all of Crossfield except a small part, already goes to Carson now right? If Crossfield is fine with Carson, which they are, and Skyview will be the same as Carson as you claim, they should be fine with Skyview.

Oh wait…something something rooted in a zip code 10 miles away something something.

The irony of the rooted in Oakton people is their lobbying to be sent to a “poorer” performing middle school (Franklin) which, let’s be honest, is masked by the fact that their AAP kids will stay at Carson anyway.

In summary, they got their entire school moved to a lower performing middle school, knowing their own kids would stay at the higher performing middle school, all to justify their weird obsession with a high school an hour from their house by bus.

I hope the school board sees right through that.

I have a third grader, a THIRD GRADER, who is already telling me that all of his friends in AAP will still go to Carson even though we're being rezoned to Franklin.

they are wrong. franklin will have AAP by 2030. they are in the last group of middle schools to implement. if your child isn’t in the first group at franklin required to stay for AAP it will be the grade after

My POINT was that nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP as long as Carson is an option. This has been known from the start. The people who were proposing Franklin have kids in AAP and they KNEW they would be able to keep their kids at Carson. Remember, they proposed this BEFORE the middle school AAP conversation happened in the school board. And even then, the parents advocating for Oakton primarily have kids in 5th+ so the absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP.

If nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP if Carson is an option, why were there 90 Level 4 kids there the year my child was there? Why is my neighbor's kid in a Level 4 class there this year? Why has there been a cohort of Level 4 kids at Franklin every year?

Do you know every single parent of a Level 4 kid, so you are confident to say thet "they absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP"? 🙄

From what I saw in Navy, very few of aap level 4 kids chose Franklin in my daughter's grade. They have been encouraging kids to go Franklin for quite a few years. I don't understand why they allow kids to choose carson when Franklin already has level 4 aap. Isn't fcps short of budget every year? They always look to increase budget instead of trying to save money. I started voting for NO for any issuing of bonds on the ballots. Property tax has been going up like crazy and still not enough.

If they just cut out the center choice, then Franklin would be overcrowded and Carson would be well under capacity. I think any plan to bring all the AAP kids back to Franklin will involve another boundary change. I'm expecting it to be moving some or all of Crossfield out to Hughes/South Lakes or Carson/Skyview. Maybe the combination of both proposed earlier in this thread in order to make room at Oakton HS as well.

They’re not going to move Crossfield into Franklin and then move them out 2 years later. I know they rarely follow Policy 8130, which says not to move the same students more than once over a 3 year period. But in this case, undoing changes from the Skyview study to apply AAP at all MS — an initiative they were fully aware of when building these scenarios, would be them admitting to a giant mistake, which they never do. No, Franklin-Chantilly kids will be shuffled to Rocky Run to make room.

They caused the same problem at Thoreau when they moved Wolftrap there. When the AAP students return to Thoreau and it becomes (more) overcrowded, they aren’t sending Wolftrap back to Kilmer. They’re going to boot the Oakton schools to Jackson.

Rocky Run is overloaded with Liberty and Stone AAP. 40% of the current membership. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/SY2025-26SullyMagisterialDistrict.pdf

Carson, Rocky Run, Stone, and Franklin are all in the Sully District. Liberty and Chantilly HS are in Springfield. Does the Springfield school board rep show up at meetings? Maybe this is why Chantilly has become the overcrowded mess - decades of lack of attention? Robyn Lady is Herndon/Dranesville but worked at Chantilly and has expressed more interest and concern than the actual rep.

Lady pays a lot more attention to Chantilly, where she worked for many years, than to the schools that are in her district. Maybe she needs to move to Sully or Springfield.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the June Newsletter that Moon just sent out describes Crossfield:

Originally opened in 1988, Crossfield Elementary has long served generations of students and families in the Herndon and Reston communities.

So why again are they still going to high school in Oakton, the 5th closest high school to them?

Quoted from their website, which describes why 🤦🏻‍♀️

“Our kids are not just numbers.
They are future graduates, athletes, artists, and leaders whose success depends on stability and support.
They are part of a living, growing community — one that deserves consistency, care, and a voice in decisions that shape their future.”

They are so full of shit. -Crossfield parent who would rather go to the closer school.

Regardless of language on websites, let's be honest with ourselves: Proximity does not ALWAYS equal quality.

As a parent of an 8th grader at Carson, let me give you a preview of what Skyview will be like. It's going to look similar to the direction that Carson has been moving in for the past year. You'll have about a third of the kids there who are really committed to their studies and want to excel academically and participate in extracurriculars. Wonderful! The remaining student body will be bringing knives to school and reselling things they stole from Walmart. (No, these are not hypothetical happenings: These are two very real occurrences that happen at least once a month now at Carson. And this kind of activity has only gotten worse in the past 2 years.)

So ... sure. If that's the environment you want your child in for HS, go for it. Yes, ALL schools have unique challenges and none are immune from problems. And I have no doubt that Skyview will hire great staff. But be careful what you wish for when your top priority is attending the "closer school."

You do realize that all of Crossfield except a small part, already goes to Carson now right? If Crossfield is fine with Carson, which they are, and Skyview will be the same as Carson as you claim, they should be fine with Skyview.

Oh wait…something something rooted in a zip code 10 miles away something something.

The irony of the rooted in Oakton people is their lobbying to be sent to a “poorer” performing middle school (Franklin) which, let’s be honest, is masked by the fact that their AAP kids will stay at Carson anyway.

In summary, they got their entire school moved to a lower performing middle school, knowing their own kids would stay at the higher performing middle school, all to justify their weird obsession with a high school an hour from their house by bus.

I hope the school board sees right through that.

I have a third grader, a THIRD GRADER, who is already telling me that all of his friends in AAP will still go to Carson even though we're being rezoned to Franklin.

they are wrong. franklin will have AAP by 2030. they are in the last group of middle schools to implement. if your child isn’t in the first group at franklin required to stay for AAP it will be the grade after

My POINT was that nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP as long as Carson is an option. This has been known from the start. The people who were proposing Franklin have kids in AAP and they KNEW they would be able to keep their kids at Carson. Remember, they proposed this BEFORE the middle school AAP conversation happened in the school board. And even then, the parents advocating for Oakton primarily have kids in 5th+ so the absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP.

If nobody is keeping their kids at Franklin for AAP if Carson is an option, why were there 90 Level 4 kids there the year my child was there? Why is my neighbor's kid in a Level 4 class there this year? Why has there been a cohort of Level 4 kids at Franklin every year?

Do you know every single parent of a Level 4 kid, so you are confident to say thet "they absolutely are going to send their kids to Carson for AAP"? 🙄

From what I saw in Navy, very few of aap level 4 kids chose Franklin in my daughter's grade. They have been encouraging kids to go Franklin for quite a few years. I don't understand why they allow kids to choose carson when Franklin already has level 4 aap. Isn't fcps short of budget every year? They always look to increase budget instead of trying to save money. I started voting for NO for any issuing of bonds on the ballots. Property tax has been going up like crazy and still not enough.

If they just cut out the center choice, then Franklin would be overcrowded and Carson would be well under capacity. I think any plan to bring all the AAP kids back to Franklin will involve another boundary change. I'm expecting it to be moving some or all of Crossfield out to Hughes/South Lakes or Carson/Skyview. Maybe the combination of both proposed earlier in this thread in order to make room at Oakton HS as well.

They’re not going to move Crossfield into Franklin and then move them out 2 years later. I know they rarely follow Policy 8130, which says not to move the same students more than once over a 3 year period. But in this case, undoing changes from the Skyview study to apply AAP at all MS — an initiative they were fully aware of when building these scenarios, would be them admitting to a giant mistake, which they never do. No, Franklin-Chantilly kids will be shuffled to Rocky Run to make room.

They caused the same problem at Thoreau when they moved Wolftrap there. When the AAP students return to Thoreau and it becomes (more) overcrowded, they aren’t sending Wolftrap back to Kilmer. They’re going to boot the Oakton schools to Jackson.

Rocky Run is overloaded with Liberty and Stone AAP. 40% of the current membership. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/SY2025-26SullyMagisterialDistrict.pdf

Carson, Rocky Run, Stone, and Franklin are all in the Sully District. Liberty and Chantilly HS are in Springfield. Does the Springfield school board rep show up at meetings? Maybe this is why Chantilly has become the overcrowded mess - decades of lack of attention? Robyn Lady is Herndon/Dranesville but worked at Chantilly and has expressed more interest and concern than the actual rep.

Kathy Smith lives in Chantilly boundary and her kids went there. She was rep for several years. She took interest and picked winners and losers for Poplar Tree and Chantilly. Pretty sure she also looked out for Rocky Run.

Greenbriar is in Springfield district. Not sure how much Springfield rep pays attention. Maybe some Greenbriar people can weigh in.
I'm a parent of Chantilly grads. Seems like I remember them playing a video of Springfield rep at back to school night.

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Anonymous wrote:They don't put school floor plans on line for safety reasons.

Then why when you go to this website: https://www.fcps.edu/building-our-future-capital-project-status and click on any school on the page do you see current/previous and future/recent floor plans in architectural design slideshows, huh?

They actually have been recently.

Pay attention!

Exactly.

They have floor plans in slideshows showing what the school looks like in its pre-renovated state and what it will look like post renovation.

And plus, with the advent of vestibules, schools are becoming safer and more secure.

They don’t just let anyone in, as a valid reason needs to be given to the secretaries.

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Anonymous wrote:They don't put school floor plans on line for safety reasons.

Then why when you go to this website: https://www.fcps.edu/building-our-future-capital-project-status and click on any school on the page do you see current/previous and future/recent floor plans in architectural design slideshows, huh?

They actually have been recently.

Pay attention!

Exactly.

They have floor plans in slideshows showing what the school looks like in its pre-renovated state and what it will look like post renovation.

And plus, with the advent of vestibules, schools are becoming safer and more secure.

They don’t just let anyone in, as a valid reason needs to be given to the secretaries.

Thus provihg FCPS is intentionally making the process behind opening Skyview highly confusing.