Wootton Announces They Have Formally Retained Silverman & Thompson

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.


It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.


It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.


They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.



Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.


Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?


Wootton will implement the Blair SMCS curriculum, because (unless Taylor screws it up) Wootton at Crown, in region 4, containing both Wootton and Churchill clusters, will have sufficient numbers of students prepared to successfully complete the SMCS curriculum.

I know it's popular to hate on students who are highly able these days, but who in the hell will successfully treat aggressive cancer when you get it? Probably someone who was one of those highly able SMCS student at Wootton.


It's true. The vast majority of doctors in the visible universe went to Wootton.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.


It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.


It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.


They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.



Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.


Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?


Wootton will implement the Blair SMCS curriculum, because (unless Taylor screws it up) Wootton at Crown, in region 4, containing both Wootton and Churchill clusters, will have sufficient numbers of students prepared to successfully complete the SMCS curriculum.

I know it's popular to hate on students who are highly able these days, but who in the hell will successfully treat aggressive cancer when you get it? Probably someone who was one of those highly able SMCS student at Wootton.


It's true. The vast majority of doctors in the visible universe went to Wootton.


It’s the best they can produce. Wootton tends to produce compliant technocrats, not critical thinkers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
I know it's popular to hate on students who are highly able these days


Is this hate in the room with us right now?


Seeing some hate on this thread.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.


It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.


It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.


They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.



Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.


Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?


Wootton will implement the Blair SMCS curriculum, because (unless Taylor screws it up) Wootton at Crown, in region 4, containing both Wootton and Churchill clusters, will have sufficient numbers of students prepared to successfully complete the SMCS curriculum.

I know it's popular to hate on students who are highly able these days, but who in the hell will successfully treat aggressive cancer when you get it? Probably someone who was one of those highly able SMCS student at Wootton.


It's true. The vast majority of doctors in the visible universe went to Wootton.


It’s the best they can produce. Wootton tends to produce compliant technocrats, not critical thinkers.


That is how little you know.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.


It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.


It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.


They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.



Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.


Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?


Wootton will implement the Blair SMCS curriculum, because (unless Taylor screws it up) Wootton at Crown, in region 4, containing both Wootton and Churchill clusters, will have sufficient numbers of students prepared to successfully complete the SMCS curriculum.

I know it's popular to hate on students who are highly able these days, but who in the hell will successfully treat aggressive cancer when you get it? Probably someone who was one of those highly able SMCS student at Wootton.


It's true. The vast majority of doctors in the visible universe went to Wootton.


That explains why most are not very good and only do the minimum.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.


It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.


It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.


They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.



Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.


Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?


Wootton will implement the Blair SMCS curriculum, because (unless Taylor screws it up) Wootton at Crown, in region 4, containing both Wootton and Churchill clusters, will have sufficient numbers of students prepared to successfully complete the SMCS curriculum.

I know it's popular to hate on students who are highly able these days, but who in the hell will successfully treat aggressive cancer when you get it? Probably someone who was one of those highly able SMCS student at Wootton.


There are lots of highly able in MCPS, except many go without those science classes to become competitive to become doctors and scientists. You keep changing your goal posts and targets and none are relevant. With a brand new building and science labs, things would be much better for STEM.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
I know it's popular to hate on students who are highly able these days


Is this hate in the room with us right now?


They hate is on other highly able kids that they are trying to keep out of their precious school. Funny thing though is many of the advocates don't have kids or have kids at Wootton. The kids at Wootton want to change to a nice new modern building.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.


It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.


It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.


They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.



Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.


Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?


Wootton will implement the Blair SMCS curriculum, because (unless Taylor screws it up) Wootton at Crown, in region 4, containing both Wootton and Churchill clusters, will have sufficient numbers of students prepared to successfully complete the SMCS curriculum.

I know it's popular to hate on students who are highly able these days, but who in the hell will successfully treat aggressive cancer when you get it? Probably someone who was one of those highly able SMCS student at Wootton.


It's true. The vast majority of doctors in the visible universe went to Wootton.


It’s the best they can produce. Wootton tends to produce compliant technocrats, not critical thinkers.


That is how little you know.



It’s actually my personal experience as a Wootton alum!

Throwback to when students got their parents to complain to the Vice Principal that the Spanish teacher was lecturing on dictatorship and about her experience living under the Argentine military junta.

Apparently she needed to stick explicitly to the AP curriculum and not teach anything beyond it. That’s the Wootton mindset for you! Tests tests tests tests!

If its scores aren’t perfect, a community or its kids apparently can’t teach you anything of value about the world.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.


It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.


It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.


They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.



Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.


Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?


Wootton will implement the Blair SMCS curriculum, because (unless Taylor screws it up) Wootton at Crown, in region 4, containing both Wootton and Churchill clusters, will have sufficient numbers of students prepared to successfully complete the SMCS curriculum.

I know it's popular to hate on students who are highly able these days, but who in the hell will successfully treat aggressive cancer when you get it? Probably someone who was one of those highly able SMCS student at Wootton.


It's true. The vast majority of doctors in the visible universe went to Wootton.


It’s the best they can produce. Wootton tends to produce compliant technocrats, not critical thinkers.


That is how little you know.



It’s actually my personal experience as a Wootton alum!

Throwback to when students got their parents to complain to the Vice Principal that the Spanish teacher was lecturing on dictatorship and about her experience living under the Argentine military junta.

Apparently she needed to stick explicitly to the AP curriculum and not teach anything beyond it. That’s the Wootton mindset for you! Tests tests tests tests!

If its scores aren’t perfect, a community or its kids apparently can’t teach you anything of value about the world.


At our school, the teachers, except for history, don't use textbooks and don't teach the full AP curriculum. They have a right to complain and expect to be taught the full curriculum. Those stories are interesting but many teachers are too busy making their classes about them vs. the actual material. What my kids know about their teachers' personal lives is way to much. No boundaries.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.


It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.


It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.


They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.



Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.


Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?


Wootton will implement the Blair SMCS curriculum, because (unless Taylor screws it up) Wootton at Crown, in region 4, containing both Wootton and Churchill clusters, will have sufficient numbers of students prepared to successfully complete the SMCS curriculum.

I know it's popular to hate on students who are highly able these days, but who in the hell will successfully treat aggressive cancer when you get it? Probably someone who was one of those highly able SMCS student at Wootton.


It's true. The vast majority of doctors in the visible universe went to Wootton.


It’s the best they can produce. Wootton tends to produce compliant technocrats, not critical thinkers.


That is how little you know.



It’s actually my personal experience as a Wootton alum!

Throwback to when students got their parents to complain to the Vice Principal that the Spanish teacher was lecturing on dictatorship and about her experience living under the Argentine military junta.

Apparently she needed to stick explicitly to the AP curriculum and not teach anything beyond it. That’s the Wootton mindset for you! Tests tests tests tests!

If its scores aren’t perfect, a community or its kids apparently can’t teach you anything of value about the world.


At our school, the teachers, except for history, don't use textbooks and don't teach the full AP curriculum. They have a right to complain and expect to be taught the full curriculum. Those stories are interesting but many teachers are too busy making their classes about them vs. the actual material. What my kids know about their teachers' personal lives is way to much. No boundaries.


+1

Wildly inappropriate to be lecturing about one’s personal experience in a language class, of all places.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.


It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.


It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.


They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.



Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.


Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?


Wootton will implement the Blair SMCS curriculum, because (unless Taylor screws it up) Wootton at Crown, in region 4, containing both Wootton and Churchill clusters, will have sufficient numbers of students prepared to successfully complete the SMCS curriculum.

I know it's popular to hate on students who are highly able these days, but who in the hell will successfully treat aggressive cancer when you get it? Probably someone who was one of those highly able SMCS student at Wootton.


It's true. The vast majority of doctors in the visible universe went to Wootton.


It’s the best they can produce. Wootton tends to produce compliant technocrats, not critical thinkers.


That is how little you know.



It’s actually my personal experience as a Wootton alum!

Throwback to when students got their parents to complain to the Vice Principal that the Spanish teacher was lecturing on dictatorship and about her experience living under the Argentine military junta.

Apparently she needed to stick explicitly to the AP curriculum and not teach anything beyond it. That’s the Wootton mindset for you! Tests tests tests tests!

If its scores aren’t perfect, a community or its kids apparently can’t teach you anything of value about the world.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.


It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.


It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.


They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.



Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.


Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?


Wootton will implement the Blair SMCS curriculum, because (unless Taylor screws it up) Wootton at Crown, in region 4, containing both Wootton and Churchill clusters, will have sufficient numbers of students prepared to successfully complete the SMCS curriculum.

I know it's popular to hate on students who are highly able these days, but who in the hell will successfully treat aggressive cancer when you get it? Probably someone who was one of those highly able SMCS student at Wootton.


It's true. The vast majority of doctors in the visible universe went to Wootton.


It’s the best they can produce. Wootton tends to produce compliant technocrats, not critical thinkers.


That is how little you know.



It’s actually my personal experience as a Wootton alum!

Throwback to when students got their parents to complain to the Vice Principal that the Spanish teacher was lecturing on dictatorship and about her experience living under the Argentine military junta.

Apparently she needed to stick explicitly to the AP curriculum and not teach anything beyond it. That’s the Wootton mindset for you! Tests tests tests tests!

If its scores aren’t perfect, a community or its kids apparently can’t teach you anything of value about the world.


+1


Glad your anecdotal experience for this one class informs the entirety of Wootton HS for you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.


It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.


It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.


They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.



Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.


Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?


Wootton will implement the Blair SMCS curriculum, because (unless Taylor screws it up) Wootton at Crown, in region 4, containing both Wootton and Churchill clusters, will have sufficient numbers of students prepared to successfully complete the SMCS curriculum.

I know it's popular to hate on students who are highly able these days, but who in the hell will successfully treat aggressive cancer when you get it? Probably someone who was one of those highly able SMCS student at Wootton.


It's true. The vast majority of doctors in the visible universe went to Wootton.


It’s the best they can produce. Wootton tends to produce compliant technocrats, not critical thinkers.


That is how little you know.



It’s actually my personal experience as a Wootton alum!

Throwback to when students got their parents to complain to the Vice Principal that the Spanish teacher was lecturing on dictatorship and about her experience living under the Argentine military junta.

Apparently she needed to stick explicitly to the AP curriculum and not teach anything beyond it. That’s the Wootton mindset for you! Tests tests tests tests!

If its scores aren’t perfect, a community or its kids apparently can’t teach you anything of value about the world.


+1


Glad your anecdotal experience for this one class informs the entirety of Wootton HS for you.


It’s one thing to talk occasionally and another to dominate it. One of my kids dropped Spanish due to the lack of curriculum and just made up on the fly lessons. A good teacher makes or breaks a class and learning experience.
Anonymous
I can’t tell what posters are arguing about anymore. Are we done yet?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can’t tell what posters are arguing about anymore. Are we done yet?


The so called Wootton advocates have to keep changing their talking points as none are that strong.
post reply Forum Index » Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS)
Message Quick Reply
Go to: