Wootton Announces They Have Formally Retained Silverman & Thompson

[Anonymous]

If the Save Wootton contingent can't frame their argument within a lens of equivalent opportunities/conditions for all students in the county, regardless of school/zip code/neighborhood, instead concentrating on their own, bespoke aggrievement, they aren't likely to get very far with this effort.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.

It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.

They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.

Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.

It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.

They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.

Not sure why you are bringing up property values. The post in this thread you are responding to (mine) did not mention property values.

It did mention segregation, which many opponents have openly admitted is their goal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.

It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.

If you don’t want people to think that tell the people from Save Wootton who are consistently making classist comments to get themselves in check. It’s not the fault of others who see Save Wootton people making these comments coming to believe this is what the movement is about when their vitriol and classism is so out in the open.

It is true that the Save Wootton is exaggerating some points, such as commute. But the accusations of classism are also bogus. This movement is no different then any other movement during boundary changes - desire to be in academically better school. There is nothing wrong with it. All you who are virtue signaling because this doesn't affect you would be doing the same thing if you were to find yourself in their position.

Receipts don't lie. Lots of people felt comfortable putting all their fears into writing on plenty of whatsapp chats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.

It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.

They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.

Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.

Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.

It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.

They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.

Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.

Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?

how were students taking these honors chem classes in rooms without functional chemistry hoods? Was the curriculum modified so they could do the work without actually doing the same things that are done at schools with operating science labs? Seem sus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.

It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.

They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.

Not sure why you are bringing up property values. The post in this thread you are responding to (mine) did not mention property values.

It did mention segregation, which many opponents have openly admitted is their goal.

It was in response to this part of the exchange:

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

In reality, it is about academics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.

It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.

They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.

Not sure why you are bringing up property values. The post in this thread you are responding to (mine) did not mention property values.

It did mention segregation, which many opponents have openly admitted is their goal.

It was in response to this part of the exchange:

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

In reality, it is about academics.


So you agree- not about the physical location or the school building itself, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.

It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.

They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.

Not sure why you are bringing up property values. The post in this thread you are responding to (mine) did not mention property values.

It did mention segregation, which many opponents have openly admitted is their goal.

It was in response to this part of the exchange:

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

In reality, it is about academics.


Actually I should add- you admit it is not the physical location of the school OR the process used?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.

It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.

They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.

Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.

Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?

It is SMCS. That’s the special program W@C is getting. You can look on the website. Classes like “Analysis 1” etc. will be given at Wootton.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.

It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.

They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.

Not sure why you are bringing up property values. The post in this thread you are responding to (mine) did not mention property values.

It did mention segregation, which many opponents have openly admitted is their goal.

It was in response to this part of the exchange:

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

In reality, it is about academics.

Actually I should add- you admit it is not the physical location of the school OR the process used?


Then your lawsuit is absolutely baseless. Northwest’s academics are going to go down far more than Wootton’s possibly could with this change. Should they sue too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.

It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.

They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.

Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.

Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?

how were students taking these honors chem classes in rooms without functional chemistry hoods? Was the curriculum modified so they could do the work without actually doing the same things that are done at schools with operating science labs? Seem sus

I’m impressed if they get actual labs and experiments. Our schools never did. A new facility offers that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.

It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.

They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.

Not sure why you are bringing up property values. The post in this thread you are responding to (mine) did not mention property values.

It did mention segregation, which many opponents have openly admitted is their goal.

It was in response to this part of the exchange:

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

In reality, it is about academics.

Actually I should add- you admit it is not the physical location of the school OR the process used?

No, it’s about race and hhi.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just feel the need to emphasize that the recent discourse on this thread reveals that many/most opponents aren't really concerned about the physical location of the school, but rather the boundary change that "forces" their children to be in a school with those they view as lesser.

None of this has to do with school building.

It's always been that. From the very first moments after Option H was announced, the first DCUM posts were about test scores and teen pregnancies(!).

Then folks pivoted to "walkers" and "process," but this has always been about race, class, and housing prices.

It’s hasn’t, but feel free to keep believing that if it helps you feel superior to those families who have voiced their concerns.

They don't believe it, they are just trolling.

The whole property value angle to discredit Wootton families makes no sense and only speaks volumes about those who keep bringing it up.

If property values indeed drop, it will only be because the new school turns out to be considerably weaker than the current Wootton. But if that is the case, Wootton families have every reason to be upset from the academics point of view.

If this is just a minor change with commute inconvenience, as many argue, then property values will not drop.

So the only reason to bring property value argument into this discussion is by those who wish Wootton families to crush and burn so they can leapfrog them in their twisted net worth race they keep playing in their heads every day, and has nothing to do with school options and merits of the legal action.

Rich families at BCC and WJ (current boundary which is higher FARMS than newer one) are, on average, wealthier than rich families at Wootton. Plenty of them are hyper educated and, quite frankly, have far more prestigious careers than Wootton families. But do you see the complaining that more disadvantaged students whose scores are lower than their kids are somehow diluting the education of their kids? And BCCs FARMS rate will still be higher than Wootton @ Crown.

No. You don’t, because it doesn’t affect their kids at all. This is going to be even more the case at Wootton. Once SMCS is installed you’re going to see even more of a school within a school.

Remember, it's STEM, not SMCS. Honestly, I don't really see how Wootton STEM is going to materially affect anything. Wootton already has a decent population of students excited about STEM who already excel - for example, a few years ago, Wootton made it possible to take Hon Bio and Hon Chem at the same time to give (motivated and proficient) students the opp to take both APs. So what exactly is this new-fangled, under-resourced STEM program going to offer that the students already don't have?

Wootton will implement the Blair SMCS curriculum, because (unless Taylor screws it up) Wootton at Crown, in region 4, containing both Wootton and Churchill clusters, will have sufficient numbers of students prepared to successfully complete the SMCS curriculum.

I know it's popular to hate on students who are highly able these days, but who in the hell will successfully treat aggressive cancer when you get it? Probably someone who was one of those highly able SMCS student at Wootton.

[Anonymous]

I know it's popular to hate on students who are highly able these days

Is this hate in the room with us right now?