Will school weapon detections cause class time delay?

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Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

What is this nonsense? Is this the worst run school in Fairfax? You were tardy because our line is too long, so now YOU CANT GO TO THE BATHROOM? That's what "passes" are, bathroom passes.

Their punishment for tardies is can’t go to the bathroom????????

I’m a teacher and think the entire weapon detection system is for show, but nowhere in that email does it mention preventing students from using the bathroom. You are trying to cause hysteria for no reason. Of course it’s stupid to hold them up for class for this, if it makes them late for class, but that wouldn’t be an unexcused tardy anywhere.

Wait, the email said students with X number of accumulated tardies will "be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day)." That sounds like bathroom restrictions to me, yes? At Woodson, they've said normal tardies would be issued this week, and have not walked that back. My kids have been late to first class every day due to the line, and have no idea how their teachers are marking it. So, I fail to see how this is hysteria. Kids who are late due to the school's procedures should not be thrown in the same bucket with kids who are randomly roaming the halls during the day. My kids actually use zero passes because they don't like being in the school's bathrooms, but every kid is different and how many times you have to go to the bathroom in a day should not be used as a basis for punishment.

Then your kids need to get to school earlier because you now know you need to add in extra time in the morning for them to get thru the metal detector. This is on you.

They ride the bus. How is that on me?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

That is a LOT of tardies and bathroom passes.

What a lenient policy

Punishing students regardless of whether they had any fault in the tardy? I think the term you are looking for is "arbitrary and capricious", not "lenient".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just received an email about detection system & Arrival information from the high school. Student can use only two door to enter the school building in the morning during 7:40-8:10. After 8:10, only one door remains as the building entrance. Students must go through the weapon screening systems and arrive class at 8:10. Some items must be removed when students before students getting in line such as medal three ring binders, laptops, collapsible umbrellas, metal lunch boxes, metal pencil cases, metal glass cases. Is it feasible for over 2000 students to pass the weapon screening system using only two doors in just 30 minutes? What if the congestion causes crows collapse?

Well Lake Braddock just had to wait for so long they shut down the detectors

Really? So they didn’t use them today?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chantilly started I think yesterday. DD said half the class was late to class first period.

They did a practice run walking through and learned the rules but the detectors weren’t actually on. And yes a lot of students were late. Mine said 15 kids were late to first period which is half the class. This is nuts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

What is this nonsense? Is this the worst run school in Fairfax? You were tardy because our line is too long, so now YOU CANT GO TO THE BATHROOM? That's what "passes" are, bathroom passes.

Their punishment for tardies is can’t go to the bathroom????????

I’m a teacher and think the entire weapon detection system is for show, but nowhere in that email does it mention preventing students from using the bathroom. You are trying to cause hysteria for no reason. Of course it’s stupid to hold them up for class for this, if it makes them late for class, but that wouldn’t be an unexcused tardy anywhere.

Wait, the email said students with X number of accumulated tardies will "be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day)." That sounds like bathroom restrictions to me, yes? At Woodson, they've said normal tardies would be issued this week, and have not walked that back. My kids have been late to first class every day due to the line, and have no idea how their teachers are marking it. So, I fail to see how this is hysteria. Kids who are late due to the school's procedures should not be thrown in the same bucket with kids who are randomly roaming the halls during the day. My kids actually use zero passes because they don't like being in the school's bathrooms, but every kid is different and how many times you have to go to the bathroom in a day should not be used as a basis for punishment.

Those kids are getting vaping restrictions.

They are tardy all the time because of their periods.

They are tardy all the time because they are vaping.

You are confusing. Which is it, and how could you know? The school is saying they are unwilling to bother with figuring out why any particular kid is tardy, and will impose strict liability and peculiarly inhumane punishments. You are defending a system that would be indefensible in any adult context except perhaps prison. Punishing the population of kids being made late by the school's own procedures because some kids vape is a solution so ridiculous it's laughable. And the hypocrisy of the school taking no responsibility for its own conduct while punishing kids for the unavoidable results of the school's conduct is shocking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

What is this nonsense? Is this the worst run school in Fairfax? You were tardy because our line is too long, so now YOU CANT GO TO THE BATHROOM? That's what "passes" are, bathroom passes.

Their punishment for tardies is can’t go to the bathroom????????

I’m a teacher and think the entire weapon detection system is for show, but nowhere in that email does it mention preventing students from using the bathroom. You are trying to cause hysteria for no reason. Of course it’s stupid to hold them up for class for this, if it makes them late for class, but that wouldn’t be an unexcused tardy anywhere.

Wait, the email said students with X number of accumulated tardies will "be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day)." That sounds like bathroom restrictions to me, yes? At Woodson, they've said normal tardies would be issued this week, and have not walked that back. My kids have been late to first class every day due to the line, and have no idea how their teachers are marking it. So, I fail to see how this is hysteria. Kids who are late due to the school's procedures should not be thrown in the same bucket with kids who are randomly roaming the halls during the day. My kids actually use zero passes because they don't like being in the school's bathrooms, but every kid is different and how many times you have to go to the bathroom in a day should not be used as a basis for punishment.

Those kids are getting vaping restrictions.

They are tardy all the time because of their periods.

They are tardy all the time because they are vaping.

You are confusing. Which is it, and how could you know? The school is saying they are unwilling to bother with figuring out why any particular kid is tardy, and will impose strict liability and peculiarly inhumane punishments. You are defending a system that would be indefensible in any adult context except perhaps prison. Punishing the population of kids being made late by the school's own procedures because some kids vape is a solution so ridiculous it's laughable. And the hypocrisy of the school taking no responsibility for its own conduct while punishing kids for the unavoidable results of the school's conduct is shocking.

Talk to the admin. Have you even looked at your child’s attendance on SIS to see if he/she is actually being marked unexcused tardy? Or do you just like to spew your hysterical nonsense on DCUM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just received an email about detection system & Arrival information from the high school. Student can use only two door to enter the school building in the morning during 7:40-8:10. After 8:10, only one door remains as the building entrance. Students must go through the weapon screening systems and arrive class at 8:10. Some items must be removed when students before students getting in line such as medal three ring binders, laptops, collapsible umbrellas, metal lunch boxes, metal pencil cases, metal glass cases. Is it feasible for over 2000 students to pass the weapon screening system using only two doors in just 30 minutes? What if the congestion causes crows collapse?

Well Lake Braddock just had to wait for so long they shut down the detectors

Really? So they didn’t use them today?

They did, until it was time for school to start and then they just let everyone go to class without the detectors. The line was too long.

[Anonymous]

School went from 10 minutes late to 5 minutes after the first day. It will only get better. Relax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:School went from 10 minutes late to 5 minutes after the first day. It will only get better. Relax.

Ok, gatehouse shill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:School went from 10 minutes late to 5 minutes after the first day. It will only get better. Relax.

Because the school just simply let students pass when it's almost the start time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:School went from 10 minutes late to 5 minutes after the first day. It will only get better. Relax.

What school?

Or is this the same poster who types misinformation, but never reveals the HS name (b/c it never happened)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

What is this nonsense? Is this the worst run school in Fairfax? You were tardy because our line is too long, so now YOU CANT GO TO THE BATHROOM? That's what "passes" are, bathroom passes.

Their punishment for tardies is can’t go to the bathroom????????

I’m a teacher and think the entire weapon detection system is for show, but nowhere in that email does it mention preventing students from using the bathroom. You are trying to cause hysteria for no reason. Of course it’s stupid to hold them up for class for this, if it makes them late for class, but that wouldn’t be an unexcused tardy anywhere.

+1. Also a teacher. We're in the second week of school and my school doesn't have metal detectors yet. Some kids already have dozens of unexcused tardies across various classes. They're the same ones who roam the halls and start problems in the bathrooms. Schools should be addressing this early.

Ok well as a teacher I need to ask you what are the middle and high schools doing about no one being able to use bathrooms because of all the "trouble"in them. I'm an educator we all know kids have trouble learning in situations/enviornments where they can't have their basic needs met. People need to use the restrooms.

First, I doubt you're an educator based on your writing style. If you are, you would know that teachers have been asking for more help with the "high flyers" for years. Restricting their bathroom and hall passes and giving them escorts is not a bad idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

What is this nonsense? Is this the worst run school in Fairfax? You were tardy because our line is too long, so now YOU CANT GO TO THE BATHROOM? That's what "passes" are, bathroom passes.

Their punishment for tardies is can’t go to the bathroom????????

I’m a teacher and think the entire weapon detection system is for show, but nowhere in that email does it mention preventing students from using the bathroom. You are trying to cause hysteria for no reason. Of course it’s stupid to hold them up for class for this, if it makes them late for class, but that wouldn’t be an unexcused tardy anywhere.

+1. Also a teacher. We're in the second week of school and my school doesn't have metal detectors yet. Some kids already have dozens of unexcused tardies across various classes. They're the same ones who roam the halls and start problems in the bathrooms. Schools should be addressing this early.

Ok well as a teacher I need to ask you what are the middle and high schools doing about no one being able to use bathrooms because of all the "trouble"in them. I'm an educator we all know kids have trouble learning in situations/enviornments where they can't have their basic needs met. People need to use the restrooms.

First, I doubt you're an educator based on your writing style. If you are, you would know that teachers have been asking for more help with the "high flyers" for years. Restricting their bathroom and hall passes and giving them escorts is not a bad idea.

Bathrooms have always been an issue in high schools. Yes, kids sometimes need to use them more frequently, but not everyday. If they have a "problem" then there should be medical support for the freedom to step out at any time. I was a teacher. Over the years, i had two kids that genuinely had urinary/digestive issues. They were free to leave the room without permission. Neither appeared to abuse it. But, you cannot give carte blanche to get up and leave the classroom any time. Not at any level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School went from 10 minutes late to 5 minutes after the first day. It will only get better. Relax.

What school?

Or is this the same poster who types misinformation, but never reveals the HS name (b/c it never happened)?

Yep same shill

[Anonymous]

Has anyone had it roll out at a middle school?