Will school weapon detections cause class time delay?

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Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

What is this nonsense? Is this the worst run school in Fairfax? You were tardy because our line is too long, so now YOU CANT GO TO THE BATHROOM? That's what "passes" are, bathroom passes.

Their punishment for tardies is can’t go to the bathroom????????

I’m a teacher and think the entire weapon detection system is for show, but nowhere in that email does it mention preventing students from using the bathroom. You are trying to cause hysteria for no reason. Of course it’s stupid to hold them up for class for this, if it makes them late for class, but that wouldn’t be an unexcused tardy anywhere.

Wait, the email said students with X number of accumulated tardies will "be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day)." That sounds like bathroom restrictions to me, yes? At Woodson, they've said normal tardies would be issued this week, and have not walked that back. My kids have been late to first class every day due to the line, and have no idea how their teachers are marking it. So, I fail to see how this is hysteria. Kids who are late due to the school's procedures should not be thrown in the same bucket with kids who are randomly roaming the halls during the day. My kids actually use zero passes because they don't like being in the school's bathrooms, but every kid is different and how many times you have to go to the bathroom in a day should not be used as a basis for punishment.

Then your kids need to get to school earlier because you now know you need to add in extra time in the morning for them to get thru the metal detector. This is on you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

What is this nonsense? Is this the worst run school in Fairfax? You were tardy because our line is too long, so now YOU CANT GO TO THE BATHROOM? That's what "passes" are, bathroom passes.

Their punishment for tardies is can’t go to the bathroom????????

I’m a teacher and think the entire weapon detection system is for show, but nowhere in that email does it mention preventing students from using the bathroom. You are trying to cause hysteria for no reason. Of course it’s stupid to hold them up for class for this, if it makes them late for class, but that wouldn’t be an unexcused tardy anywhere.

Wait, the email said students with X number of accumulated tardies will "be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day)." That sounds like bathroom restrictions to me, yes? At Woodson, they've said normal tardies would be issued this week, and have not walked that back. My kids have been late to first class every day due to the line, and have no idea how their teachers are marking it. So, I fail to see how this is hysteria. Kids who are late due to the school's procedures should not be thrown in the same bucket with kids who are randomly roaming the halls during the day. My kids actually use zero passes because they don't like being in the school's bathrooms, but every kid is different and how many times you have to go to the bathroom in a day should not be used as a basis for punishment.

Then your kids need to get to school earlier because you now know you need to add in extra time in the morning for them to get thru the metal detector. This is on you.

Umm, how are kids on the bus supposed to get there earlier? This squarely on the school, not parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

What is this nonsense? Is this the worst run school in Fairfax? You were tardy because our line is too long, so now YOU CANT GO TO THE BATHROOM? That's what "passes" are, bathroom passes.

Their punishment for tardies is can’t go to the bathroom????????

I’m a teacher and think the entire weapon detection system is for show, but nowhere in that email does it mention preventing students from using the bathroom. You are trying to cause hysteria for no reason. Of course it’s stupid to hold them up for class for this, if it makes them late for class, but that wouldn’t be an unexcused tardy anywhere.

Wait, the email said students with X number of accumulated tardies will "be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day)." That sounds like bathroom restrictions to me, yes? At Woodson, they've said normal tardies would be issued this week, and have not walked that back. My kids have been late to first class every day due to the line, and have no idea how their teachers are marking it. So, I fail to see how this is hysteria. Kids who are late due to the school's procedures should not be thrown in the same bucket with kids who are randomly roaming the halls during the day. My kids actually use zero passes because they don't like being in the school's bathrooms, but every kid is different and how many times you have to go to the bathroom in a day should not be used as a basis for punishment.

Then your kids need to get to school earlier because you now know you need to add in extra time in the morning for them to get thru the metal detector. This is on you.

My kid rides the bus and has been late a couple of times because of the lines...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

What is this nonsense? Is this the worst run school in Fairfax? You were tardy because our line is too long, so now YOU CANT GO TO THE BATHROOM? That's what "passes" are, bathroom passes.

Their punishment for tardies is can’t go to the bathroom????????

I’m a teacher and think the entire weapon detection system is for show, but nowhere in that email does it mention preventing students from using the bathroom. You are trying to cause hysteria for no reason. Of course it’s stupid to hold them up for class for this, if it makes them late for class, but that wouldn’t be an unexcused tardy anywhere.

Wait, the email said students with X number of accumulated tardies will "be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day)." That sounds like bathroom restrictions to me, yes? At Woodson, they've said normal tardies would be issued this week, and have not walked that back. My kids have been late to first class every day due to the line, and have no idea how their teachers are marking it. So, I fail to see how this is hysteria. Kids who are late due to the school's procedures should not be thrown in the same bucket with kids who are randomly roaming the halls during the day. My kids actually use zero passes because they don't like being in the school's bathrooms, but every kid is different and how many times you have to go to the bathroom in a day should not be used as a basis for punishment.

Then your kids need to get to school earlier because you now know you need to add in extra time in the morning for them to get thru the metal detector. This is on you.

Actually, no. The buses arrive when they arrive. Both entrances to the schools are locked until 7:40. They can't arrive early.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

What is this nonsense? Is this the worst run school in Fairfax? You were tardy because our line is too long, so now YOU CANT GO TO THE BATHROOM? That's what "passes" are, bathroom passes.

Their punishment for tardies is can’t go to the bathroom????????

I’m a teacher and think the entire weapon detection system is for show, but nowhere in that email does it mention preventing students from using the bathroom. You are trying to cause hysteria for no reason. Of course it’s stupid to hold them up for class for this, if it makes them late for class, but that wouldn’t be an unexcused tardy anywhere.

Wait, the email said students with X number of accumulated tardies will "be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day)." That sounds like bathroom restrictions to me, yes? At Woodson, they've said normal tardies would be issued this week, and have not walked that back. My kids have been late to first class every day due to the line, and have no idea how their teachers are marking it. So, I fail to see how this is hysteria. Kids who are late due to the school's procedures should not be thrown in the same bucket with kids who are randomly roaming the halls during the day. My kids actually use zero passes because they don't like being in the school's bathrooms, but every kid is different and how many times you have to go to the bathroom in a day should not be used as a basis for punishment.

I would be contacting the admin if the tardies are due to the weapons screening. Simple as that.

Yes and make them send you a confirmation in WRITING that the issue was cleared up-check in SIS as well. Westfield was a mess with this last year during their "pilot". Parents will need to be vigilant and on top of them!!!!

Westfield gave my kids tardies last year during the pilot. I had to personally call and argue to get them removed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just received an email about detection system & Arrival information from the high school. Student can use only two door to enter the school building in the morning during 7:40-8:10. After 8:10, only one door remains as the building entrance. Students must go through the weapon screening systems and arrive class at 8:10. Some items must be removed when students before students getting in line such as medal three ring binders, laptops, collapsible umbrellas, metal lunch boxes, metal pencil cases, metal glass cases. Is it feasible for over 2000 students to pass the weapon screening system using only two doors in just 30 minutes? What if the congestion causes crows collapse?

Well Lake Braddock just had to wait for so long they shut down the detectors

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

What is this nonsense? Is this the worst run school in Fairfax? You were tardy because our line is too long, so now YOU CANT GO TO THE BATHROOM? That's what "passes" are, bathroom passes.

Their punishment for tardies is can’t go to the bathroom????????

I’m a teacher and think the entire weapon detection system is for show, but nowhere in that email does it mention preventing students from using the bathroom. You are trying to cause hysteria for no reason. Of course it’s stupid to hold them up for class for this, if it makes them late for class, but that wouldn’t be an unexcused tardy anywhere.

Wait, the email said students with X number of accumulated tardies will "be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day)." That sounds like bathroom restrictions to me, yes? At Woodson, they've said normal tardies would be issued this week, and have not walked that back. My kids have been late to first class every day due to the line, and have no idea how their teachers are marking it. So, I fail to see how this is hysteria. Kids who are late due to the school's procedures should not be thrown in the same bucket with kids who are randomly roaming the halls during the day. My kids actually use zero passes because they don't like being in the school's bathrooms, but every kid is different and how many times you have to go to the bathroom in a day should not be used as a basis for punishment.

Then your kids need to get to school earlier because you now know you need to add in extra time in the morning for them to get thru the metal detector. This is on you.

NO GATEHOUSE It's on the schools. Students should not have to be at school an extra hour for your little security show that is not being done correctly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just received an email about detection system & Arrival information from the high school. Student can use only two door to enter the school building in the morning during 7:40-8:10. After 8:10, only one door remains as the building entrance. Students must go through the weapon screening systems and arrive class at 8:10. Some items must be removed when students before students getting in line such as medal three ring binders, laptops, collapsible umbrellas, metal lunch boxes, metal pencil cases, metal glass cases. Is it feasible for over 2000 students to pass the weapon screening system using only two doors in just 30 minutes? What if the congestion causes crows collapse?

Well Lake Braddock just had to wait for so long they shut down the detectors

This.

[Anonymous]

Chantilly started I think yesterday. DD said half the class was late to class first period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

That is a LOT of tardies and bathroom passes.

What a lenient policy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

What is this nonsense? Is this the worst run school in Fairfax? You were tardy because our line is too long, so now YOU CANT GO TO THE BATHROOM? That's what "passes" are, bathroom passes.

Their punishment for tardies is can’t go to the bathroom????????

Wtf are you talking about? It doesn’t say that at all in her email. It says they will be reduced in how many passes they can get to leave class. The kid doesn’t get the privilege of leaving class so often anymore since they clearly have a problem with cutting or being late. The kid can use the bathroom at lunchtime or in between classes. This is not unreasonable at all.

It's really not. Going to the bathroom isn't some special privilege. You get to go to the bathroom because human beings actually have to go to the bathroom -- some more than others. This isn't prison. If a kid is known to be cutting class, that should be dealt with according to normal procedures (i.e., detention). Assuming every kid who has accumulated tardies is cutting class rather than actually establishing that is what is happening is lazy and then imposing this special punishment that could be difficult or embarrassing for some kids is cruel. My kids have been late to first class every day this week, despite arriving on time, due to the weapons screening line. Punishing them for the schools failures is ridiculous.

The kids with a ton of tardies and bathroom visits are taking pee breaks.

They are the kids vaping in the bathroom.

You wouldn't give them smoking breaks, so why should they get vaping breaks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

What is this nonsense? Is this the worst run school in Fairfax? You were tardy because our line is too long, so now YOU CANT GO TO THE BATHROOM? That's what "passes" are, bathroom passes.

Their punishment for tardies is can’t go to the bathroom????????

I’m a teacher and think the entire weapon detection system is for show, but nowhere in that email does it mention preventing students from using the bathroom. You are trying to cause hysteria for no reason. Of course it’s stupid to hold them up for class for this, if it makes them late for class, but that wouldn’t be an unexcused tardy anywhere.

Wait, the email said students with X number of accumulated tardies will "be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day)." That sounds like bathroom restrictions to me, yes? At Woodson, they've said normal tardies would be issued this week, and have not walked that back. My kids have been late to first class every day due to the line, and have no idea how their teachers are marking it. So, I fail to see how this is hysteria. Kids who are late due to the school's procedures should not be thrown in the same bucket with kids who are randomly roaming the halls during the day. My kids actually use zero passes because they don't like being in the school's bathrooms, but every kid is different and how many times you have to go to the bathroom in a day should not be used as a basis for punishment.

Those kids are getting vaping restrictions.

They are tardy all the time because of their periods.

They are tardy all the time because they are vaping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just received an email about detection system & Arrival information from the high school. Student can use only two door to enter the school building in the morning during 7:40-8:10. After 8:10, only one door remains as the building entrance. Students must go through the weapon screening systems and arrive class at 8:10. Some items must be removed when students before students getting in line such as medal three ring binders, laptops, collapsible umbrellas, metal lunch boxes, metal pencil cases, metal glass cases. Is it feasible for over 2000 students to pass the weapon screening system using only two doors in just 30 minutes? What if the congestion causes crows collapse?

Well Lake Braddock just had to wait for so long they shut down the detectors

Kudos to them for making the right decision. They were all safe yesterday without the metal detectors. If everyone is not in by 7:50 then just send them to class. LBSS chose education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chantilly started I think yesterday. DD said half the class was late to class first period.

This is ...... I can't find a word for this.
They did pilot in the spring and implemented this in other school for the first week. But still......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

Unintended consequences

If those kids get full day escorts can they skip the security lines?