Will school weapon detections cause class time delay?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:School went from 10 minutes late to 5 minutes after the first day. It will only get better. Relax.

Ours got better each day during the first week. On Friday, the school claimed success. Then on Monday, it tanked and has been a longer delay each day. The only way to get the math of getting this many kids through in time to work is by having more staff on deck than is sustainable, and by giving up on any secondary screening of items pulled out, or kids who set off the machines. There is really no good way for FCPS to go either forward or back here. They could walk it back but will have to come up with some justification and I can’t think of one that doesn’t make them look awful. They could try to come up with a system that is actually effective at screening out weapons but not without adding at least a half hour of time before instruction starts, which I would think would extend the school day. Or they could carry on with this unsafe charade and hope nothing happens to drag this shyte-show onto the front page. Quite the unforced error.

[Anonymous]

Honestly think they should go to a random screening model if they want the deterrence but still be able to efficiently get students into the building. Honestly, all crowded together they’ll quite vulnerable as well.

[Anonymous]

why don't they use these at sporting events like football games? imagine, stopping people from getting into a football game. People would freak out missing a play.

Our schools are turning into prisons because they don't discipline anything anymore. And the "good kids" get told they can't use their bathroom when they have their periods. 7 minutes to run from one side of the school to the other.

I hate FCPS and I'm a democrat. But think of all the staff who could be hired for the price of this shiz. and also, our poor staff having to man this shiz.

Race to the bottom since COVID

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly think they should go to a random screening model if they want the deterrence but still be able to efficiently get students into the building. Honestly, all crowded together they’ll quite vulnerable as well.

I've been saying this from the start. It's the only way to make it work without it being a farce or taking over first period.

[Anonymous]

They should shave off 5 minutes from each period and make a 15 min homeroom before 1st period starts. That will give kids the freedom to be late due to the metal detectors without missing any instruction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They should shave off 5 minutes from each period and make a 15 min homeroom before 1st period starts. That will give kids the freedom to be late due to the metal detectors without missing any instruction.

Interesting. When I was in high school, our "homeroom" was our first period class. It worked well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They should shave off 5 minutes from each period and make a 15 min homeroom before 1st period starts. That will give kids the freedom to be late due to the metal detectors without missing any instruction.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They should shave off 5 minutes from each period and make a 15 min homeroom before 1st period starts. That will give kids the freedom to be late due to the metal detectors without missing any instruction.

So kids should get less instruction so they can go through the useless metal detectors?

How about we just not do any of this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They should shave off 5 minutes from each period and make a 15 min homeroom before 1st period starts. That will give kids the freedom to be late due to the metal detectors without missing any instruction.

So kids should get less instruction so they can go through the useless metal detectors?

How about we just not do any of this?

Agree, but my kid has calc bc first period and teacher is not waiting until everyone is in class. So, I would take 5 min less instruction than him having to catch up mid conversation half the days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They should shave off 5 minutes from each period and make a 15 min homeroom before 1st period starts. That will give kids the freedom to be late due to the metal detectors without missing any instruction.

So kids should get less instruction so they can go through the useless metal detectors?

How about we just not do any of this?

Agree, but my kid has calc bc first period and teacher is not waiting until everyone is in class. So, I would take 5 min less instruction than him having to catch up mid conversation half the days.

And kids now be docked for tardies. Unrealistic to ask a teacher to know which of her 35 kids walked or took bus so they just mark tardy and main office has to sort out-if they even do. The cries of “get to school earlier” mean nothing for kids whose buses are still running 20-30 minutes late and get them to school at 8:05 and later- that used to work to drop off that late and still expect them to class by 8:10 but not when add weapons check.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why don't they use these at sporting events like football games? imagine, stopping people from getting into a football game. People would freak out missing a play.

Our schools are turning into prisons because they don't discipline anything anymore. And the "good kids" get told they can't use their bathroom when they have their periods. 7 minutes to run from one side of the school to the other.

I hate FCPS and I'm a democrat. But think of all the staff who could be hired for the price of this shiz. and also, our poor staff having to man this shiz.

Race to the bottom since COVID

You need to go back further but yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They should shave off 5 minutes from each period and make a 15 min homeroom before 1st period starts. That will give kids the freedom to be late due to the metal detectors without missing any instruction.

I'v been saying this as well

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why don't they use these at sporting events like football games? imagine, stopping people from getting into a football game. People would freak out missing a play.

Our schools are turning into prisons because they don't discipline anything anymore. And the "good kids" get told they can't use their bathroom when they have their periods. 7 minutes to run from one side of the school to the other.

I hate FCPS and I'm a democrat. But think of all the staff who could be hired for the price of this shiz. and also, our poor staff having to man this shiz.

Race to the bottom since COVID

You need to go back further but yes.

+1. This predates COVID but PPP is correct.

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Anonymous wrote:From Westfield today. We have received zero messaging about weapons detection.

Greetings. All Westfield families are receiving this message. Please note that students who accumulate between 5 and 10 unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive lunch detention and be placed on pass restrictions (from 4 to 2 per day). Students who accumulate 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts in one week will receive an afterschool detention and will be pass restricted to 1/day. When students have four weeks of 11+ unexcused tardies or class cuts (consecutively or not), they will be placed on full day escort and parents will be invited to a meeting at school. This is a change from last year. Tardies and class cuts will be monitored on weekly basis. Please talk with your student and remind them to arrive to class on time and to not leave class without permission. Thank you for your support and partnership!

Best,
Maranda Black
Dean of Students

What is this nonsense? Is this the worst run school in Fairfax? You were tardy because our line is too long, so now YOU CANT GO TO THE BATHROOM? That's what "passes" are, bathroom passes.

Their punishment for tardies is can’t go to the bathroom????????

I’m a teacher and think the entire weapon detection system is for show, but nowhere in that email does it mention preventing students from using the bathroom. You are trying to cause hysteria for no reason. Of course it’s stupid to hold them up for class for this, if it makes them late for class, but that wouldn’t be an unexcused tardy anywhere.

+1. Also a teacher. We're in the second week of school and my school doesn't have metal detectors yet. Some kids already have dozens of unexcused tardies across various classes. They're the same ones who roam the halls and start problems in the bathrooms. Schools should be addressing this early.

Ok well as a teacher I need to ask you what are the middle and high schools doing about no one being able to use bathrooms because of all the "trouble"in them. I'm an educator we all know kids have trouble learning in situations/enviornments where they can't have their basic needs met. People need to use the restrooms.

First, I doubt you're an educator based on your writing style. If you are, you would know that teachers have been asking for more help with the "high flyers" for years. Restricting their bathroom and hall passes and giving them escorts is not a bad idea.

The rest of us doubt you are a parent.....so run along Gatehouse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They should shave off 5 minutes from each period and make a 15 min homeroom before 1st period starts. That will give kids the freedom to be late due to the metal detectors without missing any instruction.

I'v been saying this as well

This is a good idea.