Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

Renting a bike someone has sat down on and is preparing to rent is obviously antagonistic. She should have, though, recognized these guys were messing with her because they are immature teens.

The video is 90 second long, and at the end she gets of the bike. So she does, ultimately realize that she is dealign with immature teens and moves on with her life.

What if the thousands of people online who have since called this woman a white supremacist and a liar, claimed she's faking her pregnancy, accused her of bias in her medical practice, and dozens of other absolute insane and unsupported accusations ALSO recognized that these guys are immature teens who were messing with a tired pregnant woman?

Like it took her about a minute to figure out what was going on and walk away from the situation. The internet is still trying to get her fired several days later. Who needs to wise up here, exactly?

The internet is the a$$hole here, definitely. But she is not the wronged party, nor is she a victim.

She may or may not be the victim in the actual event - surely she shouldn’t have touched his phone. But now she’s absolutely a victim of the internet mob.

Yup. I think she shouldn't be, and it sucks, and I hope she isn't fired, but that's a risk you take when you have a hissy in front of a bunch of phones.

I think it’s as or more likely that our director of cinematography decided to film to a push hard for a reaction so I think your order of operations are likely wrong.

Ok.

Please let me know if you have any evidence of that.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He had not rented the bike. The video is clear. You hear the “chunk” and chime of it unlocking 20 seconds in.

You’re editorializing with your sarcasm and presenting that as factual. The actual recorded facts invalidate what you claim in your post.

She hadn't rented it either. So what if he rented it 20 seconds into the video? He still rented it first. She just sat on it, which gains her nothing, because that's not how you rent things.

He physically blocked her from renting it the only way one can rent by physically putting his hand over the scannable code.

You can and I’m guessing, will, keep it up, but you’re not going to get me or others to scream at you so you can declare victory. The woman did not attempt a theft or a line-cut, she did not attempt to get the boys into hot water with police or hospital security, and she didn’t deserve to have multiple people online calling for her firing.

I don't think she deserves to be fired, even though she was wrong in this event. I don't care whether you scream at me or not, and I don't need to declare victory. Just contributing to the conversation.

I’m at no risk of screaming at you, but certainly the repeat posting of “why hadn’t she rented it?” is an attempt to get posters to snap since it’s been answered quite a few times in the last pages alone. I think you’ll be disappointed in the reaction to your contribution to the conversation.

Well, I'll be sure to soldier on in the face of my crushing disappointment.

And I don't find those answers sufficient - they don't make sense, and they don't justify her actions - which is why I keep asking the question.

What action is it that you want justified? What answers don't make sense? At this point your behavior is trollish because you are simply ignoring the people who are trying to answer your questions in good faith, repeating the questions over and over, and dismissing responses out of hadn't without considering them.

Did this woman yell at these men? No, she yells for help but she speaks to them in a normal speaking voice that is annoyed, but controlled.

Does she call the police or accuse them of doing anything they aren't doing? No, she calls for help generally but she accuses them of nothing. It appears that she feels the situation is obvious -- she is on the bike, he is forcing her off the bike.

Does she cry, fake or otherwise? NO. She is kind of whining and complaining throughout the video, and at one point she puts her head in her hand and her shoulders shake, but it is not a "fake cry". She is clearly incredibly frustrated and this is how she expresses her frustration.

You keep asking questions but you won't answer any, you won't engage, you won't acknowledge even basic facts of what occurs in the video. You are antagonizing without no intention of listening or trying to find agreement.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

Renting a bike someone has sat down on and is preparing to rent is obviously antagonistic. She should have, though, recognized these guys were messing with her because they are immature teens.

The video is 90 second long, and at the end she gets of the bike. So she does, ultimately realize that she is dealign with immature teens and moves on with her life.

What if the thousands of people online who have since called this woman a white supremacist and a liar, claimed she's faking her pregnancy, accused her of bias in her medical practice, and dozens of other absolute insane and unsupported accusations ALSO recognized that these guys are immature teens who were messing with a tired pregnant woman?

Like it took her about a minute to figure out what was going on and walk away from the situation. The internet is still trying to get her fired several days later. Who needs to wise up here, exactly?

The internet is the a$$hole here, definitely. But she is not the wronged party, nor is she a victim.

She may or may not be the victim in the actual event - surely she shouldn’t have touched his phone. But now she’s absolutely a victim of the internet mob.

Yup. I think she shouldn't be, and it sucks, and I hope she isn't fired, but that's a risk you take when you have a hissy in front of a bunch of phones.

Last week I got cut off in traffic while I was having a bad day, and I yelled at the other driver that he was a jerk and shouldn't have done that. If he or a bystander had filmed me doing so, should I be fired from my job and called a racist online?

Should you? No, just like I think this woman shouldn't be fired.

But if you screamed at him for 90 seconds and had a meltdown, while wearing your work uniform, then I don't think you should be surprised if that happens.

So if people have normal, emotional but non violent reactions to rude, dangerous, annoying, or obnoxious behavior, they should not be surprised if it results in them losing their jobs and having their reputations dragged through the mud.

Ok, sounds good, what a cool society we live in.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He had not rented the bike. The video is clear. You hear the “chunk” and chime of it unlocking 20 seconds in.

You’re editorializing with your sarcasm and presenting that as factual. The actual recorded facts invalidate what you claim in your post.

She hadn't rented it either. So what if he rented it 20 seconds into the video? He still rented it first. She just sat on it, which gains her nothing, because that's not how you rent things.

He physically blocked her from renting it the only way one can rent by physically putting his hand over the scannable code.

You can and I’m guessing, will, keep it up, but you’re not going to get me or others to scream at you so you can declare victory. The woman did not attempt a theft or a line-cut, she did not attempt to get the boys into hot water with police or hospital security, and she didn’t deserve to have multiple people online calling for her firing.

I don't think she deserves to be fired, even though she was wrong in this event. I don't care whether you scream at me or not, and I don't need to declare victory. Just contributing to the conversation.

I’m at no risk of screaming at you, but certainly the repeat posting of “why hadn’t she rented it?” is an attempt to get posters to snap since it’s been answered quite a few times in the last pages alone. I think you’ll be disappointed in the reaction to your contribution to the conversation.

Well, I'll be sure to soldier on in the face of my crushing disappointment.

And I don't find those answers sufficient - they don't make sense, and they don't justify her actions - which is why I keep asking the question.

What action is it that you want justified? What answers don't make sense? At this point your behavior is trollish because you are simply ignoring the people who are trying to answer your questions in good faith, repeating the questions over and over, and dismissing responses out of hadn't without considering them.

Did this woman yell at these men? No, she yells for help but she speaks to them in a normal speaking voice that is annoyed, but controlled.

Does she call the police or accuse them of doing anything they aren't doing? No, she calls for help generally but she accuses them of nothing. It appears that she feels the situation is obvious -- she is on the bike, he is forcing her off the bike.

Does she cry, fake or otherwise? NO. She is kind of whining and complaining throughout the video, and at one point she puts her head in her hand and her shoulders shake, but it is not a "fake cry". She is clearly incredibly frustrated and this is how she expresses her frustration.

You keep asking questions but you won't answer any, you won't engage, you won't acknowledge even basic facts of what occurs in the video. You are antagonizing without no intention of listening or trying to find agreement.

Yes. It’s just trolling with better grammar than one typically gets to see.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

Renting a bike someone has sat down on and is preparing to rent is obviously antagonistic. She should have, though, recognized these guys were messing with her because they are immature teens.

The video is 90 second long, and at the end she gets of the bike. So she does, ultimately realize that she is dealign with immature teens and moves on with her life.

What if the thousands of people online who have since called this woman a white supremacist and a liar, claimed she's faking her pregnancy, accused her of bias in her medical practice, and dozens of other absolute insane and unsupported accusations ALSO recognized that these guys are immature teens who were messing with a tired pregnant woman?

Like it took her about a minute to figure out what was going on and walk away from the situation. The internet is still trying to get her fired several days later. Who needs to wise up here, exactly?

The internet is the a$$hole here, definitely. But she is not the wronged party, nor is she a victim.

She may or may not be the victim in the actual event - surely she shouldn’t have touched his phone. But now she’s absolutely a victim of the internet mob.

Yup. I think she shouldn't be, and it sucks, and I hope she isn't fired, but that's a risk you take when you have a hissy in front of a bunch of phones.

Last week I got cut off in traffic while I was having a bad day, and I yelled at the other driver that he was a jerk and shouldn't have done that. If he or a bystander had filmed me doing so, should I be fired from my job and called a racist online?

Should you? No, just like I think this woman shouldn't be fired.

But if you screamed at him for 90 seconds and had a meltdown, while wearing your work uniform, then I don't think you should be surprised if that happens.

I know you are talking about the car scenario, but I think it's useful to point out that the woman in the video never screams at the man pushing her off the bike, or any of the other men -- she calls out for help, but is not screaming and does not direct these calls at them. She speaks to them in a normal, if irritated, tone of voice. And asks that he please get off her.

I don't think you can characterize her behavior as a meltdown.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

Renting a bike someone has sat down on and is preparing to rent is obviously antagonistic. She should have, though, recognized these guys were messing with her because they are immature teens.

The video is 90 second long, and at the end she gets of the bike. So she does, ultimately realize that she is dealign with immature teens and moves on with her life.

What if the thousands of people online who have since called this woman a white supremacist and a liar, claimed she's faking her pregnancy, accused her of bias in her medical practice, and dozens of other absolute insane and unsupported accusations ALSO recognized that these guys are immature teens who were messing with a tired pregnant woman?

Like it took her about a minute to figure out what was going on and walk away from the situation. The internet is still trying to get her fired several days later. Who needs to wise up here, exactly?

The internet is the a$$hole here, definitely. But she is not the wronged party, nor is she a victim.

She may or may not be the victim in the actual event - surely she shouldn’t have touched his phone. But now she’s absolutely a victim of the internet mob.

Yup. I think she shouldn't be, and it sucks, and I hope she isn't fired, but that's a risk you take when you have a hissy in front of a bunch of phones.

I think it’s as or more likely that our director of cinematography decided to film to a push hard for a reaction so I think your order of operations are likely wrong.

Ok.

Please let me know if you have any evidence of that.

In fact, I do. The recording helpfully objectively demonstrates that he had not rented the bike, by the video visual of him with his palm over the scannable code, and by the helpful audio where you hear the unlocking, indicating the rental. Since the recording precedes the actual act of bike rental, it makes rational sense that the group wanted to bully her off of it and the now universal language of recording her shows they wanted to embarrass her into complying. Hope that is helpful.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

She had a right to be upset. She did not have a right to sit on the bike screaming "help me!" and fake crying (I've seen the video and to me, that was 100% fake). Be annoyed, sure, but sometimes things in life annoy you. He rented it before she did, in an annoying way. Move on, like a grown up.

So she deserves to get fired because you subjectively perceive her emotion to be fake?

Hey, you dropped your strawman.

No, I don't think she deserves to be fired. She acted immaturely and inappropriately, and was in the wrong, but I don't think that's a fire-able offense.

But don't fake cry, or real cry, for sympathy. Argue that doing so isn't racist all you want. It is, but even if it wasn't racist, it's gross.

Still not getting you. She’s upset. On what grounds do you declare she’s faking it?

On the grounds of I saw the video, I understand the context, I observed her facial expression, her body language, how quickly she starts and stops crying, when she starts crying and when she stops crying, where she pointed her face when she was crying -- all those reasons are why I think she was faking it.

YMMV. But those are my grounds.

NP. She looked like she was shaking to me. That seems upset.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

She had a right to be upset. She did not have a right to sit on the bike screaming "help me!" and fake crying (I've seen the video and to me, that was 100% fake). Be annoyed, sure, but sometimes things in life annoy you. He rented it before she did, in an annoying way. Move on, like a grown up.

So she deserves to get fired because you subjectively perceive her emotion to be fake?

Hey, you dropped your strawman.

No, I don't think she deserves to be fired. She acted immaturely and inappropriately, and was in the wrong, but I don't think that's a fire-able offense.

But don't fake cry, or real cry, for sympathy. Argue that doing so isn't racist all you want. It is, but even if it wasn't racist, it's gross.

Still not getting you. She’s upset. On what grounds do you declare she’s faking it?

On the grounds of I saw the video, I understand the context, I observed her facial expression, her body language, how quickly she starts and stops crying, when she starts crying and when she stops crying, where she pointed her face when she was crying -- all those reasons are why I think she was faking it.

YMMV. But those are my grounds.

NP. She looked like she was shaking to me. That seems upset.

Before it after her faked cry?

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He had not rented the bike. The video is clear. You hear the “chunk” and chime of it unlocking 20 seconds in.

You’re editorializing with your sarcasm and presenting that as factual. The actual recorded facts invalidate what you claim in your post.

She hadn't rented it either. So what if he rented it 20 seconds into the video? He still rented it first. She just sat on it, which gains her nothing, because that's not how you rent things.

He physically blocked her from renting it the only way one can rent by physically putting his hand over the scannable code.

You can and I’m guessing, will, keep it up, but you’re not going to get me or others to scream at you so you can declare victory. The woman did not attempt a theft or a line-cut, she did not attempt to get the boys into hot water with police or hospital security, and she didn’t deserve to have multiple people online calling for her firing.

I don't think she deserves to be fired, even though she was wrong in this event. I don't care whether you scream at me or not, and I don't need to declare victory. Just contributing to the conversation.

I’m at no risk of screaming at you, but certainly the repeat posting of “why hadn’t she rented it?” is an attempt to get posters to snap since it’s been answered quite a few times in the last pages alone. I think you’ll be disappointed in the reaction to your contribution to the conversation.

Well, I'll be sure to soldier on in the face of my crushing disappointment.

And I don't find those answers sufficient - they don't make sense, and they don't justify her actions - which is why I keep asking the question.

What action is it that you want justified? What answers don't make sense? At this point your behavior is trollish because you are simply ignoring the people who are trying to answer your questions in good faith, repeating the questions over and over, and dismissing responses out of hadn't without considering them.

Did this woman yell at these men? No, she yells for help but she speaks to them in a normal speaking voice that is annoyed, but controlled.

Does she call the police or accuse them of doing anything they aren't doing? No, she calls for help generally but she accuses them of nothing. It appears that she feels the situation is obvious -- she is on the bike, he is forcing her off the bike.

Does she cry, fake or otherwise? NO. She is kind of whining and complaining throughout the video, and at one point she puts her head in her hand and her shoulders shake, but it is not a "fake cry". She is clearly incredibly frustrated and this is how she expresses her frustration.

You keep asking questions but you won't answer any, you won't engage, you won't acknowledge even basic facts of what occurs in the video. You are antagonizing without no intention of listening or trying to find agreement.

Look, I have my own opinion of the video. We disagree. That doesn't mean I'm trolling. It means that your opinion -- just like mine -- is subjective. I'm not mad that you've got a different opinion -- I just don't agree with it.

What action do I want justified? Her choice to sit on that bike and scream for help instead of accepting that she doesn't get to have that bike (because he - in a dickish maneuver - rented it before she did) and leaving. I find it difficult to figure out what sentence should come after "Help me!" "Help me! These teens are trying to take a bike that they have a stronger claim on, but I had dibs!"? What does she need "help" with? Enforcing what property right? She doesn't have one. Protecting her? She's not being attacked - she can get off the bike and leave. To me, it sounds like "Help me, I don't think life is being fair to me right now!"

I get that she's frustrated. I cry when I'm frustrated. That's not what this looked like to me.

Ultimately, she's not on a bike and he's forcing her off. First, she's on an unclaimed bike and he's forcing her off, then she's on his bike, and he's forcing her off.

I've listened to your perspective, I've seen the video, it's not the slam dunk you think it is, and I interpret it differently. That's going to happen in life.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

She had a right to be upset. She did not have a right to sit on the bike screaming "help me!" and fake crying (I've seen the video and to me, that was 100% fake). Be annoyed, sure, but sometimes things in life annoy you. He rented it before she did, in an annoying way. Move on, like a grown up.

So she deserves to get fired because you subjectively perceive her emotion to be fake?

Hey, you dropped your strawman.

No, I don't think she deserves to be fired. She acted immaturely and inappropriately, and was in the wrong, but I don't think that's a fire-able offense.

But don't fake cry, or real cry, for sympathy. Argue that doing so isn't racist all you want. It is, but even if it wasn't racist, it's gross.

Still not getting you. She’s upset. On what grounds do you declare she’s faking it?

On the grounds of I saw the video, I understand the context, I observed her facial expression, her body language, how quickly she starts and stops crying, when she starts crying and when she stops crying, where she pointed her face when she was crying -- all those reasons are why I think she was faking it.

YMMV. But those are my grounds.

NP. She looked like she was shaking to me. That seems upset.

Before it after her faked cry?

It was a bit before one of the heroes called her fetus “r———d.”

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

Renting a bike someone has sat down on and is preparing to rent is obviously antagonistic. She should have, though, recognized these guys were messing with her because they are immature teens.

The video is 90 second long, and at the end she gets of the bike. So she does, ultimately realize that she is dealign with immature teens and moves on with her life.

What if the thousands of people online who have since called this woman a white supremacist and a liar, claimed she's faking her pregnancy, accused her of bias in her medical practice, and dozens of other absolute insane and unsupported accusations ALSO recognized that these guys are immature teens who were messing with a tired pregnant woman?

Like it took her about a minute to figure out what was going on and walk away from the situation. The internet is still trying to get her fired several days later. Who needs to wise up here, exactly?

The internet is the a$$hole here, definitely. But she is not the wronged party, nor is she a victim.

The teens are the only ones crying victim.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He had not rented the bike. The video is clear. You hear the “chunk” and chime of it unlocking 20 seconds in.

You’re editorializing with your sarcasm and presenting that as factual. The actual recorded facts invalidate what you claim in your post.

She hadn't rented it either. So what if he rented it 20 seconds into the video? He still rented it first. She just sat on it, which gains her nothing, because that's not how you rent things.

He physically blocked her from renting it the only way one can rent by physically putting his hand over the scannable code.

You can and I’m guessing, will, keep it up, but you’re not going to get me or others to scream at you so you can declare victory. The woman did not attempt a theft or a line-cut, she did not attempt to get the boys into hot water with police or hospital security, and she didn’t deserve to have multiple people online calling for her firing.

I don't think she deserves to be fired, even though she was wrong in this event. I don't care whether you scream at me or not, and I don't need to declare victory. Just contributing to the conversation.

I’m at no risk of screaming at you, but certainly the repeat posting of “why hadn’t she rented it?” is an attempt to get posters to snap since it’s been answered quite a few times in the last pages alone. I think you’ll be disappointed in the reaction to your contribution to the conversation.

Well, I'll be sure to soldier on in the face of my crushing disappointment.

And I don't find those answers sufficient - they don't make sense, and they don't justify her actions - which is why I keep asking the question.

What action is it that you want justified? What answers don't make sense? At this point your behavior is trollish because you are simply ignoring the people who are trying to answer your questions in good faith, repeating the questions over and over, and dismissing responses out of hadn't without considering them.

Did this woman yell at these men? No, she yells for help but she speaks to them in a normal speaking voice that is annoyed, but controlled.

Does she call the police or accuse them of doing anything they aren't doing? No, she calls for help generally but she accuses them of nothing. It appears that she feels the situation is obvious -- she is on the bike, he is forcing her off the bike.

Does she cry, fake or otherwise? NO. She is kind of whining and complaining throughout the video, and at one point she puts her head in her hand and her shoulders shake, but it is not a "fake cry". She is clearly incredibly frustrated and this is how she expresses her frustration.

You keep asking questions but you won't answer any, you won't engage, you won't acknowledge even basic facts of what occurs in the video. You are antagonizing without no intention of listening or trying to find agreement.

Look, I have my own opinion of the video. We disagree. That doesn't mean I'm trolling. It means that your opinion -- just like mine -- is subjective. I'm not mad that you've got a different opinion -- I just don't agree with it.

What action do I want justified? Her choice to sit on that bike and scream for help instead of accepting that she doesn't get to have that bike (because he - in a dickish maneuver - rented it before she did) and leaving. I find it difficult to figure out what sentence should come after "Help me!" "Help me! These teens are trying to take a bike that they have a stronger claim on, but I had dibs!"? What does she need "help" with? Enforcing what property right? She doesn't have one. Protecting her? She's not being attacked - she can get off the bike and leave. To me, it sounds like "Help me, I don't think life is being fair to me right now!"

I get that she's frustrated. I cry when I'm frustrated. That's not what this looked like to me.

Ultimately, she's not on a bike and he's forcing her off. First, she's on an unclaimed bike and he's forcing her off, then she's on his bike, and he's forcing her off.

I've listened to your perspective, I've seen the video, it's not the slam dunk you think it is, and I interpret it differently. That's going to happen in life.

By your own recap, a group of teen boys forced her off a bike that they hadn’t rented. Hm.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

Renting a bike someone has sat down on and is preparing to rent is obviously antagonistic. She should have, though, recognized these guys were messing with her because they are immature teens.

The video is 90 second long, and at the end she gets of the bike. So she does, ultimately realize that she is dealign with immature teens and moves on with her life.

What if the thousands of people online who have since called this woman a white supremacist and a liar, claimed she's faking her pregnancy, accused her of bias in her medical practice, and dozens of other absolute insane and unsupported accusations ALSO recognized that these guys are immature teens who were messing with a tired pregnant woman?

Like it took her about a minute to figure out what was going on and walk away from the situation. The internet is still trying to get her fired several days later. Who needs to wise up here, exactly?

The internet is the a$$hole here, definitely. But she is not the wronged party, nor is she a victim.

She may or may not be the victim in the actual event - surely she shouldn’t have touched his phone. But now she’s absolutely a victim of the internet mob.

Yup. I think she shouldn't be, and it sucks, and I hope she isn't fired, but that's a risk you take when you have a hissy in front of a bunch of phones.

Last week I got cut off in traffic while I was having a bad day, and I yelled at the other driver that he was a jerk and shouldn't have done that. If he or a bystander had filmed me doing so, should I be fired from my job and called a racist online?

Should you? No, just like I think this woman shouldn't be fired.

But if you screamed at him for 90 seconds and had a meltdown, while wearing your work uniform, then I don't think you should be surprised if that happens.

I don't think she should be fired on the basis of this interaction, but I'm not surprised the hospital wants to look at her record. If she works with high-needs populations, then she really should understand the power dynamics of a white woman yelling "help, help me" during a (non-violent) verbal altercation with Black boys.

You can say it's unfair, or wrong, that she should have to temper her response based on the chance that she'd get someone hurt, but it should absolutely be part of her training to recognize the power differential, think about the potential ramifications of sic'ing security or the police on Black boys, and change her approach accordingly.

If she doesn't have enough awareness to do that, I think it's worth looking at whether that attitude has spilled into patient care.

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

Renting a bike someone has sat down on and is preparing to rent is obviously antagonistic. She should have, though, recognized these guys were messing with her because they are immature teens.

The video is 90 second long, and at the end she gets of the bike. So she does, ultimately realize that she is dealign with immature teens and moves on with her life.

What if the thousands of people online who have since called this woman a white supremacist and a liar, claimed she's faking her pregnancy, accused her of bias in her medical practice, and dozens of other absolute insane and unsupported accusations ALSO recognized that these guys are immature teens who were messing with a tired pregnant woman?

Like it took her about a minute to figure out what was going on and walk away from the situation. The internet is still trying to get her fired several days later. Who needs to wise up here, exactly?

The internet is the a$$hole here, definitely. But she is not the wronged party, nor is she a victim.

She may or may not be the victim in the actual event - surely she shouldn’t have touched his phone. But now she’s absolutely a victim of the internet mob.

Yup. I think she shouldn't be, and it sucks, and I hope she isn't fired, but that's a risk you take when you have a hissy in front of a bunch of phones.

Last week I got cut off in traffic while I was having a bad day, and I yelled at the other driver that he was a jerk and shouldn't have done that. If he or a bystander had filmed me doing so, should I be fired from my job and called a racist online?

Should you? No, just like I think this woman shouldn't be fired.

But if you screamed at him for 90 seconds and had a meltdown, while wearing your work uniform, then I don't think you should be surprised if that happens.

I don't think she should be fired on the basis of this interaction, but I'm not surprised the hospital wants to look at her record. If she works with high-needs populations, then she really should understand the power dynamics of a white woman yelling "help, help me" during a (non-violent) verbal altercation with Black boys.

You can say it's unfair, or wrong, that she should have to temper her response based on the chance that she'd get someone hurt, but it should absolutely be part of her training to recognize the power differential, think about the potential ramifications of sic'ing security or the police on Black boys, and change her approach accordingly.

If she doesn't have enough awareness to do that, I think it's worth looking at whether that attitude has spilled into patient care.

So what consequence is appropriate for the young men who used their physical strength to intimidate a pregnant woman, then used race and lies to try to get her fired?

Just wondering who should teach them about their abuse of their male privilege and the internet mob.

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He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

Renting a bike someone has sat down on and is preparing to rent is obviously antagonistic. She should have, though, recognized these guys were messing with her because they are immature teens.

The video is 90 second long, and at the end she gets of the bike. So she does, ultimately realize that she is dealign with immature teens and moves on with her life.

What if the thousands of people online who have since called this woman a white supremacist and a liar, claimed she's faking her pregnancy, accused her of bias in her medical practice, and dozens of other absolute insane and unsupported accusations ALSO recognized that these guys are immature teens who were messing with a tired pregnant woman?

Like it took her about a minute to figure out what was going on and walk away from the situation. The internet is still trying to get her fired several days later. Who needs to wise up here, exactly?

The internet is the a$$hole here, definitely. But she is not the wronged party, nor is she a victim.

She may or may not be the victim in the actual event - surely she shouldn’t have touched his phone. But now she’s absolutely a victim of the internet mob.

Yup. I think she shouldn't be, and it sucks, and I hope she isn't fired, but that's a risk you take when you have a hissy in front of a bunch of phones.

Last week I got cut off in traffic while I was having a bad day, and I yelled at the other driver that he was a jerk and shouldn't have done that. If he or a bystander had filmed me doing so, should I be fired from my job and called a racist online?

Should you? No, just like I think this woman shouldn't be fired.

But if you screamed at him for 90 seconds and had a meltdown, while wearing your work uniform, then I don't think you should be surprised if that happens.

I don't think she should be fired on the basis of this interaction, but I'm not surprised the hospital wants to look at her record. If she works with high-needs populations, then she really should understand the power dynamics of a white woman yelling "help, help me" during a (non-violent) verbal altercation with Black boys.

You can say it's unfair, or wrong, that she should have to temper her response based on the chance that she'd get someone hurt, but it should absolutely be part of her training to recognize the power differential, think about the potential ramifications of sic'ing security or the police on Black boys, and change her approach accordingly.

If she doesn't have enough awareness to do that, I think it's worth looking at whether that attitude has spilled into patient care.

She did not sic security or the police on Black boys. She did not attempt to sic security or the police on Black boys.