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Anonymous wrote:For the love of everything holy....stop saying Pre-Da.....rec is pre-da....the womb is pre-da....youre not DA until youre DA.

Ha! Agree, but I do think it's acceptable to use the term if you are talking about the Northeast pre-academy league, which is now limited to U16/U17 boys: http://usclub.demosphere.com/schedules/2017-18/88995865.html

I have wondered about what is acceptable in this regard -- Club calls it DA, many parents call it DA and I think coach calls it DA, but I have felt like I would be misrepresenting things or at least being misleading if I said my U16 son plays on a "DA team" rather than "Pre-Academy." On the other hand, it seems like only DA clubs place teams in the Pre-Academy league? Do you think US Soccer will implement single year DAs at U16 anytime soon?

I haven't heard of plans for a single year U16 group. Our son played U13 pre-academy a few years ago. We referred to it as pre-academy, but agree that most people just thought of it as DA given that our club lumped the preacademy and DA teams together for most purposes. Our club wouldn't let kids on preacademy teams play for their middle school or high school soccer teams even though there's no rule that prevents it. Most preacademy kids made DA teams eventually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the love of everything holy....stop saying Pre-Da.....rec is pre-da....the womb is pre-da....youre not DA until youre DA.

Ha! Agree, but I do think it's acceptable to use the term if you are talking about the Northeast pre-academy league, which is now limited to U16/U17 boys: http://usclub.demosphere.com/schedules/2017-18/88995865.html

I have wondered about what is acceptable in this regard -- Club calls it DA, many parents call it DA and I think coach calls it DA, but I have felt like I would be misrepresenting things or at least being misleading if I said my U16 son plays on a "DA team" rather than "Pre-Academy." On the other hand, it seems like only DA clubs place teams in the Pre-Academy league? Do you think US Soccer will implement single year DAs at U16 anytime soon?

Your son must not be at Loudoun or Arlington because they only go to U14.

Bethesda is the only area 'Club' that has above U14, and D.C. united which isn't a club per se.

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^^i take the "pre" as referring to age. By U16, I'd think it's DA. The Club u12-14 are mostly the A team kids of the host club.

[Anonymous]

Look, let's clarify here -- the younger age groups were added recently. If you played "pre-Academy" at U12 a few years ago, it's because there was no DA.

This is all changing quite rapidly. If you have a current U16 and a current U12, their experiences may be dramatically different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, let's clarify here -- the younger age groups were added recently. If you played "pre-Academy" at U12 a few years ago, it's because there was no DA.

This is all changing quite rapidly. If you have a current U16 and a current U12, their experiences may be dramatically different.

Look at the link above. There is one age group left (U16, 2002 for this year) in what is officially known as "pre-academy". These teams play in the NE pre-academy league. For this year, Bethesda, Baltimore Armour, and VDA all have teams playing in the pre-Academy league from our area. When my son played a few years ago the pre-academy included U13, U15, and U17 age groups and both DC United and Bethesda had U13 and U15 pre-academy teams. Kids playing on those teams were either a bit too young for the DA, which started at U14 then, or they were on the bubble to make a DA team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, let's clarify here -- the younger age groups were added recently. If you played "pre-Academy" at U12 a few years ago, it's because there was no DA.

This is all changing quite rapidly. If you have a current U16 and a current U12, their experiences may be dramatically different.

Look at the link above. There is one age group left (U16, 2002 for this year) in what is officially known as "pre-academy". These teams play in the NE pre-academy league. For this year, Bethesda, Baltimore Armour, and VDA all have teams playing in the pre-Academy league from our area. When my son played a few years ago the pre-academy included U13, U15, and U17 age groups and both DC United and Bethesda had U13 and U15 pre-academy teams. Kids playing on those teams were either a bit too young for the DA, which started at U14 then, or they were on the bubble to make a DA team.

Yes. So anything U14 and below is still 'pre-Academy'.

those kids will need to leave their Current Club and tryout for DA at U15.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, let's clarify here -- the younger age groups were added recently. If you played "pre-Academy" at U12 a few years ago, it's because there was no DA.

This is all changing quite rapidly. If you have a current U16 and a current U12, their experiences may be dramatically different.

Look at the link above. There is one age group left (U16, 2002 for this year) in what is officially known as "pre-academy". These teams play in the NE pre-academy league. For this year, Bethesda, Baltimore Armour, and VDA all have teams playing in the pre-Academy league from our area. When my son played a few years ago the pre-academy included U13, U15, and U17 age groups and both DC United and Bethesda had U13 and U15 pre-academy teams. Kids playing on those teams were either a bit too young for the DA, which started at U14 then, or they were on the bubble to make a DA team.

Yes. So anything U14 and below is still 'pre-Academy'.

those kids will need to leave their Current Club and tryout for DA at U15.

No. Not at all.

http://www.ussoccerda.com/sam/standings/regevent/index.php?containerId=MzgzNDMwMA%3D%3D&partialGames=0

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/02/02/00/58/160201-academy-adds-56-clubs-at-under-12-division-for-2016-17-season

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, let's clarify here -- the younger age groups were added recently. If you played "pre-Academy" at U12 a few years ago, it's because there was no DA.

This is all changing quite rapidly. If you have a current U16 and a current U12, their experiences may be dramatically different.

Look at the link above. There is one age group left (U16, 2002 for this year) in what is officially known as "pre-academy". These teams play in the NE pre-academy league. For this year, Bethesda, Baltimore Armour, and VDA all have teams playing in the pre-Academy league from our area. When my son played a few years ago the pre-academy included U13, U15, and U17 age groups and both DC United and Bethesda had U13 and U15 pre-academy teams. Kids playing on those teams were either a bit too young for the DA, which started at U14 then, or they were on the bubble to make a DA team.

Yes. So anything U14 and below is still 'pre-Academy'.

those kids will need to leave their Current Club and tryout for DA at U15.

No. Read the last 2 pages. The only kids playing pre-academy are those playing in this league, all of whose clubs are listed: http://usclub.demosphere.com/schedules/2017-18/88995865.html

You are playing DA if you are on a U12 DA team or a U19 team, regardless of where you go next. As others have noted, it's great that USSF has made an effort to have extra DA teams at the U12-U14 age groups so kids don't have to travel far for games.

[Anonymous]

What is the difference between the State Cup and Presidents Cup? Seem to be similar age groups and format.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the difference between the State Cup and Presidents Cup? Seem to be similar age groups and format.

I believe Presidents Cup is essentially the same thing but for B Teams. Roughly the same format.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the difference between the State Cup and Presidents Cup? Seem to be similar age groups and format.

I believe Presidents Cup is essentially the same thing but for B Teams. Roughly the same format.

State Cup is now mostly B teams because of DA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the difference between the State Cup and Presidents Cup? Seem to be similar age groups and format.

I believe Presidents Cup is essentially the same thing but for B Teams. Roughly the same format.

State Cup is now mostly B teams because of DA.

True.

[Anonymous]

If you look at the Presidents Cup for VA, it is a hodgepodge of teams, some from clubs some private teams. The cup is now irrelevant, it used to be a solid statewide tournament for the B teams. DA, NPL, EDP, take a lot teams to their own tournaments so scheduling games for State Cup becomes hard which means B and C teams enter State Cup. CCL teams still compete in State cup and other leagues, but that's mostly because their CCL games are glorified scrimmages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you look at the Presidents Cup for VA, it is a hodgepodge of teams, some from clubs some private teams. The cup is now irrelevant, it used to be a solid statewide tournament for the B teams. DA, NPL, EDP, take a lot teams to their own tournaments so scheduling games for State Cup becomes hard which means B and C teams enter State Cup. CCL teams still compete in State cup and other leagues, but that's mostly because their CCL games are glorified scrimmages.

Yep.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the Presidents Cup for VA, it is a hodgepodge of teams, some from clubs some private teams. The cup is now irrelevant, it used to be a solid statewide tournament for the B teams. DA, NPL, EDP, take a lot teams to their own tournaments so scheduling games for State Cup becomes hard which means B and C teams enter State Cup. CCL teams still compete in State cup and other leagues, but that's mostly because their CCL games are glorified scrimmages.

Yep.

Ok we get it, it's not DA. But it may be the next best thing since you are playing against those clubs top teams or 2nd if they have DA. Any other league would be 3rd or 4th teams of those clubs and top teams of non-CCL clubs. What would you call those? Non-glorified scrimmages. The competition is still good. There are multiple levels of competition in this area.