Is Notre Dame screwing up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We tried to open. The kids partied. We sent them home. We will not try again until next fall.

So irresponsible. Your school made a good decision.

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Anonymous wrote:My opinion of Notre Dame has really gone down. Administration seems very irresponsible. I feel bad for the faculty who are teaching in person.

I mean, Notre Dame has always been overrated and cultish. This has merely confirmed my pre-existing opinion of the school.

GO IRISH

The rest of you can whine all you want. We Catholics are here to stay. Three in the Supreme court over one administration. LOLOL

A shining example of Jesus, ladies and gentlemen. I just wish Catholics like PP were a bit more self-aware. Alas . . .

So who hates organized religion more - you or Obama?

[Anonymous]

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Yeah, because a bunch of college students at a football game -- who could have been controlled by a responsible university administration -- is the same thing as ordinary citizens, who don't answer to any single authority and have the right of assembly. Who is the hack, exactly?

If you don't understand the hypocrisy here, then you're helpless....

[Anonymous]

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Yeah, because a bunch of college students at a football game -- who could have been controlled by a responsible university administration -- is the same thing as ordinary citizens, who don't answer to any single authority and have the right of assembly. Who is the hack, exactly?

If you don't understand the hypocrisy here, then you're helpless....

NP: A spontaneous group of citizens not organized by anyone celebrating (in accordance with laws in the area, though not all guidelines--though most were wearing masks) is different than an institution responsible for the gathering of students in a sanctioned event associated with their institution. If you can't see that, you're helpless.

[Anonymous]

Well their numbers the week were better than they were the week before. We'll give them another week but I'm not expecting all the drama everyone lashed out at them about.

I'm not a ND fan but I am so pulling for them to crush this year because everyone is squawking at them. The kids are happy on campus and having classes far better than most colleges. They are not killing off their professors and the neighboring townsfolk as was predicted. They are diagnostic and surveillance testing responsibly and reacting appropriately as needed. By having some semblance of a residential year the school is not hemorrhaging the millions and millions of dollars that other schools are. Honestly - to be they are showing up a lot of other schools who couldn't be bothered to try to make it work and will be crying for funds next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well their numbers the week were better than they were the week before. We'll give them another week but I'm not expecting all the drama everyone lashed out at them about.

I'm not a ND fan but I am so pulling for them to crush this year because everyone is squawking at them. The kids are happy on campus and having classes far better than most colleges. They are not killing off their professors and the neighboring townsfolk as was predicted. They are diagnostic and surveillance testing responsibly and reacting appropriately as needed. By having some semblance of a residential year the school is not hemorrhaging the millions and millions of dollars that other schools are. Honestly - to be they are showing up a lot of other schools who couldn't be bothered to try to make it work and will be crying for funds next year.

+100 My son is there and he is having a blast...relatively speaking. Being able to experience that game last week is going to be unforgetable. He is working hard, spending time with his good friends in his bubble, and getting ready for exam week and to head home. I couldn't be prouder of him and am grateful he is having some semblance of normal. it is going to be a rough couple of months being stuck at home, but hoping he can get back again in February.

[Anonymous]

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Yeah, because a bunch of college students at a football game -- who could have been controlled by a responsible university administration -- is the same thing as ordinary citizens, who don't answer to any single authority and have the right of assembly. Who is the hack, exactly?

If you don't understand the hypocrisy here, then you're helpless....

NP: A spontaneous group of citizens not organized by anyone celebrating (in accordance with laws in the area, though not all guidelines--though most were wearing masks) is different than an institution responsible for the gathering of students in a sanctioned event associated with their institution. If you can't see that, you're helpless.

Wait, that gathering did not break any laws. All were wearing masks and students were all tested prior to the game. The storming of the field was "spontaneous." So I don't see what is different here, other than the fact that the students had all been tested beforehand and any positive cases put in isolation and contacts in quarantine.

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Anonymous wrote:Well their numbers the week were better than they were the week before. We'll give them another week but I'm not expecting all the drama everyone lashed out at them about.

I'm not a ND fan but I am so pulling for them to crush this year because everyone is squawking at them. The kids are happy on campus and having classes far better than most colleges. They are not killing off their professors and the neighboring townsfolk as was predicted. They are diagnostic and surveillance testing responsibly and reacting appropriately as needed. By having some semblance of a residential year the school is not hemorrhaging the millions and millions of dollars that other schools are. Honestly - to be they are showing up a lot of other schools who couldn't be bothered to try to make it work and will be crying for funds next year.

+100 My son is there and he is having a blast...relatively speaking. Being able to experience that game last week is going to be unforgetable. He is working hard, spending time with his good friends in his bubble, and getting ready for exam week and to head home. I couldn't be prouder of him and am grateful he is having some semblance of normal. it is going to be a rough couple of months being stuck at home, but hoping he can get back again in February.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well their numbers the week were better than they were the week before. We'll give them another week but I'm not expecting all the drama everyone lashed out at them about.

I'm not a ND fan but I am so pulling for them to crush this year because everyone is squawking at them. The kids are happy on campus and having classes far better than most colleges. They are not killing off their professors and the neighboring townsfolk as was predicted. They are diagnostic and surveillance testing responsibly and reacting appropriately as needed. By having some semblance of a residential year the school is not hemorrhaging the millions and millions of dollars that other schools are. Honestly - to be they are showing up a lot of other schools who couldn't be bothered to try to make it work and will be crying for funds [/b]next year.

[b]+100 My son is there and he is having a blast...relatively speaking. Being able to experience that game last week is going to be unforgetable. He is working hard, spending time with his good friends in his bubble, and getting ready for exam week and to head home. I couldn't be prouder of him and am grateful he is having some semblance of normal. it is going to be a rough couple of months being stuck at home, but hoping he can get back again in February.

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Stop Notre Dame Mom! Listen to yourself: “My son .. this and that” “Me me me”. Where is the concern for others and responsible behavior? I don’t care how happy your son are is at Notre Dame. How can you be so selfish? This has been awful for the community. First the football team gets it. Then Fr. John gets it at the mask-less White House party. Now this irresponsible surge into the field! Yes cases are up in Indiana. More cases on the football team were announced this past week. Fr. John called the surge onto the field “disappointing” last Friday. And three days ago Coach Kelly said Notre Dane “ wasn’t doing enough” to confront the virus. This is a PR disaster and is not helped by moms bragging how much fun their son is having -without any regard for anyone else - at Notre Dame. Button it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well their numbers the week were better than they were the week before. We'll give them another week but I'm not expecting all the drama everyone lashed out at them about.

I'm not a ND fan but I am so pulling for them to crush this year because everyone is squawking at them. The kids are happy on campus and having classes far better than most colleges. They are not killing off their professors and the neighboring townsfolk as was predicted. They are diagnostic and surveillance testing responsibly and reacting appropriately as needed. By having some semblance of a residential year the school is not hemorrhaging the millions and millions of dollars that other schools are. Honestly - to be they are showing up a lot of other schools who couldn't be bothered to try to make it work and will be crying for funds [/b]next year.

[b]+100 My son is there and he is having a blast...relatively speaking. Being able to experience that game last week is going to be unforgetable. He is working hard, spending time with his good friends in his bubble, and getting ready for exam week and to head home. I couldn't be prouder of him and am grateful he is having some semblance of normal. it is going to be a rough couple of months being stuck at home, but hoping he can get back again in February.

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Stop Notre Dame Mom! Listen to yourself: “My son .. this and that” “Me me me”. Where is the concern for others and responsible behavior? I don’t care how happy your son are is at Notre Dame. How can you be so selfish? This has been awful for the community. First the football team gets it. Then Fr. John gets it at the mask-less White House party. Now this irresponsible surge into the field! Yes cases are up in Indiana. More cases on the football team were announced this past week. Fr. John called the surge onto the field “disappointing” last Friday. And three days ago Coach Kelly said Notre Dane “ wasn’t doing enough” to confront the virus. This is a PR disaster and is not helped by moms bragging how much fun their son is having -without any regard for anyone else - at Notre Dame. Button it.

Why? It is true. He has classes in person (4 out of 5). He is living with his roommates on campus (not sitting at a computer in the basement). He is going to football games!! He got to see ND beat Clemson. He is independent and living college life. Hey, he even can sit by a fire pit right outside his dorm. All good. Some people got sick. We knew that was going to happen. DS hasn't been contact traced or gotten the virus, so he is going to come home next week without having missed a beat during the semester. COVID is not killing students. Nobody at ND has died from COVID. Why don't you "button it" PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well their numbers the week were better than they were the week before. We'll give them another week but I'm not expecting all the drama everyone lashed out at them about.

I'm not a ND fan but I am so pulling for them to crush this year because everyone is squawking at them. The kids are happy on campus and having classes far better than most colleges. They are not killing off their professors and the neighboring townsfolk as was predicted. They are diagnostic and surveillance testing responsibly and reacting appropriately as needed. By having some semblance of a residential year the school is not hemorrhaging the millions and millions of dollars that other schools are. Honestly - to be they are showing up a lot of other schools who couldn't be bothered to try to make it work and will be crying for funds [/b]next year.

[b]+100 My son is there and he is having a blast...relatively speaking. Being able to experience that game last week is going to be unforgetable. He is working hard, spending time with his good friends in his bubble, and getting ready for exam week and to head home. I couldn't be prouder of him and am grateful he is having some semblance of normal. it is going to be a rough couple of months being stuck at home, but hoping he can get back again in February.

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Stop Notre Dame Mom! Listen to yourself: “My son .. this and that” “Me me me”. Where is the concern for others and responsible behavior? I don’t care how happy your son are is at Notre Dame. How can you be so selfish? This has been awful for the community. First the football team gets it. Then Fr. John gets it at the mask-less White House party. Now this irresponsible surge into the field! Yes cases are up in Indiana. More cases on the football team were announced this past week. Fr. John called the surge onto the field “disappointing” last Friday. And three days ago Coach Kelly said Notre Dane “ wasn’t doing enough” to confront the virus. This is a PR disaster and is not helped by moms bragging how much fun their son is having -without any regard for anyone else - at Notre Dame. Button it.

Why? It is true. He has classes in person (4 out of 5). He is living with his roommates on campus (not sitting at a computer in the basement). He is going to football games!! He got to see ND beat Clemson. He is independent and living college life. Hey, he even can sit by a fire pit right outside his dorm. All good. Some people got sick. We knew that was going to happen. DS hasn't been contact traced or gotten the virus, so he is going to come home next week without having missed a beat during the semester. COVID is not killing students. Nobody at ND has died from COVID. Why don't you "button it" PP.

ND Alum and former South Bend resident here. Glad things have gone well for your son and that he has been able to enjoy some of this weird college semester of Covid. But please get a clue! Notre Dame has been the poster child for hypocrisy this fall. From its decision to reopen solely for football glory/money while pretending to care about its students/the larger community to Fr. Jenkins throwing self control out the window because he got to visit the White House, it's been a disgusting spectacle.

Covid cases from nearby Elkhart, IN, where hospitals are over capacity are already being transferred to St. Joseph Hospital not too far from Notre Dame. Meanwhile, the populations of South Bend, Mishawaka and Granger, as well as nearby Niles, MI are holding their collective breaths that students head for home for break before setting off another Covid explosion. I have two kids in colleges out east in places where cases are much lower than Indiana who have had all online classes. One is a Div 1 athlete who has not been allowed to do his sport since last February. Neither of these universities are Catholic schools that pretend to stand for something. But I'd argue that my kids are getting a better lesson in sacrificing for the common good than any student at ND. The school and its leaders should be ashamed. Most alums I know are.

[Anonymous]

^ This is a great post. I can’t stop shaking my head at the ND mom who is focused only on her son. It’s mind-boggling that she doesn’t consider or care about health issues for the larger community, especially since a guiding principle of the Catholic Church is to promote the common good and protect vulnerable people. I’m Catholic and I am embarrassed for her.

[Anonymous]

Financially, ND could have survived just fine going remote all semester. Smaller Catholic colleges and the town of South Bend? Not so much. Jenkins showed a lot of leadership opening and the entire professional staff has been amazing leading the institution and students this past year. And, fwiw, professors were not forced to hold in-person classes. I am still completely bewildered why he made such a stupid, bad choice at the WH that he will never live down.

And do you know how many kids are back in their college towns or some other great place doing classes online? A LOT.

As for who learned more lessons this year, it’s safe to say we all did hopefully.

Unclench and stop spewing hate.

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Anonymous wrote:Financially, ND could have survived just fine going remote all semester. Smaller Catholic colleges and the town of South Bend? Not so much. Jenkins showed a lot of leadership opening and the entire professional staff has been amazing leading the institution and students this past year. And, fwiw, professors were not forced to hold in-person classes. I am still completely bewildered why he made such a stupid, bad choice at the WH that he will never live down.

And do you know how many kids are back in their college towns or some other great place doing classes online? A LOT.

As for who learned more lessons this year, it’s safe to say we all did hopefully.

Unclench and stop spewing hate.

How is truth hate? I think you've lost your perspective because it worked out for your kid. I'm from a multi-generational ND family and grew up in SB. And I loved my time there. But I'm not so blinded by that that I can't call them out when they screw up. Just because no one died, doesn't mean they set the example they should have. I was ready to be impressed when they first announced their plan, but they didn't live up to the rhetoric. Students showed up ready to party and then were vilified by Jenkins when the inevitable outbreak occurred. I've always liked Jenkins, but when he let giddiness over a court appointment set the ultimate bad example at the WH, he should have been fired. Instead, just like when rape allegations against football players have been pushed aside, the university chose to look the other way. Do what we say, not what we do doesn't work with parenting and sets a horrible example for college students.

Get back to me when you're know as much about ND as the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Hi Mom and Dad, my COVID and I are home for Thanksgiving!! Howsabout a big hug!