First day drop off -- MD tags

[Anonymous]

Isn't the most likely explanation a joint custody situation where one parent lives in DC and one in MD?

[Anonymous]

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When the police sweat the small stuff, they catch more bad actors -- folks with outstanding warrants, weapons, drugs, etc. Plus, it says to the criminal thug element, we're on to you, we'll bust you for petty stuff so don't even think about committing major crimes. And guess what, more serious crime is held in check. I agree that MPD morale is at an all time low, principally because they're afraid to take aggressive action because the Black Lives Matter crowd would be all over them. As a result, they're not going after small crimes and doing a poor job addressing the more serious infractions. And you're wrong about "probable cause." That may come into play with the search of a vehicle, but the police have broad authority to set up motor vehicle checkpoints to check for valid licenses, registrations, sobriety, etc. If motor vehicle fraud is even more widespread than school residency fraud, as a PP suggested, then DC needs to be on it. Big time.

This is another way she can work in her crazy about those PG people.

Now, I want everyone to imagine a world where this happened--where children being dropped off at school are subjected to seeing their parents interrogated, and in some cases, not very nicely interrogated by police.

Interrogated for being in a car because they might be cheating the system.

Why is it that every time I convince myself this city isn't a cesspool full of backwater, provincial rednecks, this charming woman posts?

So, if you're equating folks who are concerned about school residency cheating with "rednecks" (note the race-baiting term), are you suggesting that such cheating is a characteristic of people of color? If so, I find that very offensive indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the most likely explanation a joint custody situation where one parent lives in DC and one in MD?

That, no doubt, explains some of the situations. Or perhaps grandparents dropping off. But the sheer number of out of state cars, clearly driven by a parent, dropping off kids at DC public schools strongly suggests that there is a widespread residency fraud problem. Whether it's because of the accessible, very affordable before/after care, or convenience to a parent's commute, it's going on. And needs to be snuffed out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many folks who grew up in MD never change their license plates when they become DC residents. Yes, it's illegal but it's widespread. They'll keep the car registered and insured through their original family/parents' home.

If you have an off-street parking spot in the District, there's no reason to take the necessary time off to go to the DC DMV, pay the absurd upfront "tax" on the value of the automobile, etc. Huge time suck and very expensive. Especially if you're from MD and think you might move back one day.

Then a worthwhile, targeted activity by MPD could be to rotate around various DC public schools and spot check the licenses and registrations of out of state cars dropping off students. If someone protests that they actually live in Maryland, then turn their names in for a residency investigation. If they admit that they really live in DC, nail them for failure to register and/or get a DC license.

You must live in Ward 3, upper upper northwest. Murder, burglary, theft, assault , etc. is steadily rising throughout the city and MPD morale is at an all time low, and you want them to canvass schools for people who don't register their cars in the city. You are just too damn stupid to take your post serious. Not to mention the police would not have probable cause to stop a driver simply because they are driving in the city near a school with Maryland plates.

When the police sweat the small stuff, they catch more bad actors -- folks with outstanding warrants, weapons, drugs, etc. Plus, it says to the criminal thug element, we're on to you, we'll bust you for petty stuff so don't even think about committing major crimes. And guess what, more serious crime is held in check. I agree that MPD morale is at an all time low, principally because they're afraid to take aggressive action because the Black Lives Matter crowd would be all over them. As a result, they're not going after small crimes and doing a poor job addressing the more serious infractions. And you're wrong about "probable cause." That may come into play with the search of a vehicle, but the police have broad authority to set up motor vehicle checkpoints to check for valid licenses, registrations, sobriety, etc. If motor vehicle fraud is even more widespread than school residency fraud, as a PP suggested, then DC needs to be on it. Big time.

This is such bullshit. Since I happened to have worked at MPD I call your post BS. Morale began to slip in 2010 and it has been dropping every since. BLM has nothing to do with it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many folks who grew up in MD never change their license plates when they become DC residents. Yes, it's illegal but it's widespread. They'll keep the car registered and insured through their original family/parents' home.

If you have an off-street parking spot in the District, there's no reason to take the necessary time off to go to the DC DMV, pay the absurd upfront "tax" on the value of the automobile, etc. Huge time suck and very expensive. Especially if you're from MD and think you might move back one day.

Then a worthwhile, targeted activity by MPD could be to rotate around various DC public schools and spot check the licenses and registrations of out of state cars dropping off students. If someone protests that they actually live in Maryland, then turn their names in for a residency investigation. If they admit that they really live in DC, nail them for failure to register and/or get a DC license.

You must live in Ward 3, upper upper northwest. Murder, burglary, theft, assault , etc. is steadily rising throughout the city and MPD morale is at an all time low, and you want them to canvass schools for people who don't register their cars in the city. You are just too damn stupid to take your post serious. Not to mention the police would not have probable cause to stop a driver simply because they are driving in the city near a school with Maryland plates.

Right now the city spends an enormous amount of energy searching for cars that are not registered in DC but should be. The effort is focused on residential neighborhoods at night. It would probably be more productive to focus on schools at drop-off and pickup.

No, the city does not spend an enormous amount of energy searching for cars not registered in the district. Why do you make crap up to bolster your argument. DPW writes the vast majority of ticket violations, not MPD, and those tickets are for expired meters, overnight parking, expired registrations, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many folks who grew up in MD never change their license plates when they become DC residents. Yes, it's illegal but it's widespread. They'll keep the car registered and insured through their original family/parents' home.

If you have an off-street parking spot in the District, there's no reason to take the necessary time off to go to the DC DMV, pay the absurd upfront "tax" on the value of the automobile, etc. Huge time suck and very expensive. Especially if you're from MD and think you might move back one day.

Then a worthwhile, targeted activity by MPD could be to rotate around various DC public schools and spot check the licenses and registrations of out of state cars dropping off students. If someone protests that they actually live in Maryland, then turn their names in for a residency investigation. If they admit that they really live in DC, nail them for failure to register and/or get a DC license.

You must live in Ward 3, upper upper northwest. Murder, burglary, theft, assault , etc. is steadily rising throughout the city and MPD morale is at an all time low, and you want them to canvass schools for people who don't register their cars in the city. You are just too damn stupid to take your post serious. Not to mention the police would not have probable cause to stop a driver simply because they are driving in the city near a school with Maryland plates.

Right now the city spends an enormous amount of energy searching for cars that are not registered in DC but should be. The effort is focused on residential neighborhoods at night. It would probably be more productive to focus on schools at drop-off and pickup.

No, the city does not spend an enormous amount of energy searching for cars not registered in the district. Why do you make crap up to bolster your argument. DPW writes the vast majority of ticket violations, not MPD, and those tickets are for expired meters, overnight parking, expired registrations, etc.

I'll give the OP of the benefit of the doubt that they meant DPW.
Go to any of the newly gentrified neighborhoods (Logan, U St, CoHi, Shaw) and you'll see the meter maids giving tickets to the out-of-state cars late at night for registration violations. My ex-GF lived in VA and stayed with me frequently. She got TONS of ROSA warnings, even after submitting all the required paperwork to the DC DMV that she legally resided in VA. Maybe they're not ticketing your particular neighborhood, but they are rampant in the dense urban areas where wealthy white people have inhabited.

Like a good bank robber, DPW knows to "go where they keep the money."

[Anonymous]

There's obvious fraud being committed and principals and DCPS are ignoring it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many folks who grew up in MD never change their license plates when they become DC residents. Yes, it's illegal but it's widespread. They'll keep the car registered and insured through their original family/parents' home.

If you have an off-street parking spot in the District, there's no reason to take the necessary time off to go to the DC DMV, pay the absurd upfront "tax" on the value of the automobile, etc. Huge time suck and very expensive. Especially if you're from MD and think you might move back one day.

Then a worthwhile, targeted activity by MPD could be to rotate around various DC public schools and spot check the licenses and registrations of out of state cars dropping off students. If someone protests that they actually live in Maryland, then turn their names in for a residency investigation. If they admit that they really live in DC, nail them for failure to register and/or get a DC license.

You must live in Ward 3, upper upper northwest. Murder, burglary, theft, assault , etc. is steadily rising throughout the city and MPD morale is at an all time low, and you want them to canvass schools for people who don't register their cars in the city. You are just too damn stupid to take your post serious. Not to mention the police would not have probable cause to stop a driver simply because they are driving in the city near a school with Maryland plates.

When the police sweat the small stuff, they catch more bad actors -- folks with outstanding warrants, weapons, drugs, etc. Plus, it says to the criminal thug element, we're on to you, we'll bust you for petty stuff so don't even think about committing major crimes. And guess what, more serious crime is held in check. I agree that MPD morale is at an all time low, principally because they're afraid to take aggressive action because the Black Lives Matter crowd would be all over them. As a result, they're not going after small crimes and doing a poor job addressing the more serious infractions. And you're wrong about "probable cause." That may come into play with the search of a vehicle, but the police have broad authority to set up motor vehicle checkpoints to check for valid licenses, registrations, sobriety, etc. If motor vehicle fraud is even more widespread than school residency fraud, as a PP suggested, then DC needs to be on it. Big time.

The police cannot stop MD and VA plates only to effectuate their roadblocks stops. It has to be random stops which also include DC plates, and any other state license plates. Come on, you should know this from first year law. And, I can just see Taylor Street backed up at 8:10 am in rush hour traffic as the police pullover cars leaving YY. Whew, the neighborhood, commuters, and the parents would have Cathy Lanier's head on a platter for making them late for work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the most likely explanation a joint custody situation where one parent lives in DC and one in MD?

That, no doubt, explains some of the situations. Or perhaps grandparents dropping off. But the sheer number of out of state cars, clearly driven by a parent, dropping off kids at DC public schools strongly suggests that there is a widespread residency fraud problem. Whether it's because of the accessible, very affordable before/after care, or convenience to a parent's commute, it's going on. And needs to be snuffed out.

No, it does not. Repeating something over and over does not make it true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's obvious fraud being committed and principals and DCPS are ignoring it.

That's because many of them live in MD and VA. Their own kids and kids of family members & friends are the ones taking advantage. Everyone has an aunt who is willing to "hook them up" and look the other way.
Why don't you think the MPD or DPW ticket all the illegal parkers on Sunday morning at District churches? Or the illegal parkers at the Cardozo HS fields during Pop Warner football games? It's their family, friends, and neighbors that they would be ticketing. Quid pro quo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many folks who grew up in MD never change their license plates when they become DC residents. Yes, it's illegal but it's widespread. They'll keep the car registered and insured through their original family/parents' home.

If you have an off-street parking spot in the District, there's no reason to take the necessary time off to go to the DC DMV, pay the absurd upfront "tax" on the value of the automobile, etc. Huge time suck and very expensive. Especially if you're from MD and think you might move back one day.

Then a worthwhile, targeted activity by MPD could be to rotate around various DC public schools and spot check the licenses and registrations of out of state cars dropping off students. If someone protests that they actually live in Maryland, then turn their names in for a residency investigation. If they admit that they really live in DC, nail them for failure to register and/or get a DC license.

You must live in Ward 3, upper upper northwest. Murder, burglary, theft, assault , etc. is steadily rising throughout the city and MPD morale is at an all time low, and you want them to canvass schools for people who don't register their cars in the city. You are just too damn stupid to take your post serious. Not to mention the police would not have probable cause to stop a driver simply because they are driving in the city near a school with Maryland plates.

Right now the city spends an enormous amount of energy searching for cars that are not registered in DC but should be. The effort is focused on residential neighborhoods at night. It would probably be more productive to focus on schools at drop-off and pickup.

No, the city does not spend an enormous amount of energy searching for cars not registered in the district. Why do you make crap up to bolster your argument. DPW writes the vast majority of ticket violations, not MPD, and those tickets are for expired meters, overnight parking, expired registrations, etc.

I'll give the OP of the benefit of the doubt that they meant DPW.
Go to any of the newly gentrified neighborhoods (Logan, U St, CoHi, Shaw) and you'll see the meter maids giving tickets to the out-of-state cars late at night for registration violations. My ex-GF lived in VA and stayed with me frequently. She got TONS of ROSA warnings, even after submitting all the required paperwork to the DC DMV that she legally resided in VA. Maybe they're not ticketing your particular neighborhood, but they are rampant in the dense urban areas where wealthy white people have inhabited.

Like a good bank robber, DPW knows to "go where they keep the money."

They ticket in my neighborhood as well. And no, it is not a neighborhood inhabited by wealthy white people. It's a neighborhood inhabited by people of multiple races who are working to middle class. My response however remains the same, plus DPW does not have jurisdiction to pull cars over and question the occupants as to their vehicle registration status.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's obvious fraud being committed and principals and DCPS are ignoring it.

That's because many of them live in MD and VA. Their own kids and kids of family members & friends are the ones taking advantage. Everyone has an aunt who is willing to "hook them up" and look the other way.
Why don't you think the MPD or DPW ticket all the illegal parkers on Sunday morning at District churches? Or the illegal parkers at the Cardozo HS fields during Pop Warner football games? It's their family, friends, and neighbors that they would be ticketing. Quid pro quo.

Not always the principals, but the employees who actually handle the paperwork and check the documents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many folks who grew up in MD never change their license plates when they become DC residents. Yes, it's illegal but it's widespread. They'll keep the car registered and insured through their original family/parents' home.

If you have an off-street parking spot in the District, there's no reason to take the necessary time off to go to the DC DMV, pay the absurd upfront "tax" on the value of the automobile, etc. Huge time suck and very expensive. Especially if you're from MD and think you might move back one day.

Then a worthwhile, targeted activity by MPD could be to rotate around various DC public schools and spot check the licenses and registrations of out of state cars dropping off students. If someone protests that they actually live in Maryland, then turn their names in for a residency investigation. If they admit that they really live in DC, nail them for failure to register and/or get a DC license.

You must live in Ward 3, upper upper northwest. Murder, burglary, theft, assault , etc. is steadily rising throughout the city and MPD morale is at an all time low, and you want them to canvass schools for people who don't register their cars in the city. You are just too damn stupid to take your post serious. Not to mention the police would not have probable cause to stop a driver simply because they are driving in the city near a school with Maryland plates.

When the police sweat the small stuff, they catch more bad actors -- folks with outstanding warrants, weapons, drugs, etc. Plus, it says to the criminal thug element, we're on to you, we'll bust you for petty stuff so don't even think about committing major crimes. And guess what, more serious crime is held in check. I agree that MPD morale is at an all time low, principally because they're afraid to take aggressive action because the Black Lives Matter crowd would be all over them. As a result, they're not going after small crimes and doing a poor job addressing the more serious infractions. And you're wrong about "probable cause." That may come into play with the search of a vehicle, but the police have broad authority to set up motor vehicle checkpoints to check for valid licenses, registrations, sobriety, etc. If motor vehicle fraud is even more widespread than school residency fraud, as a PP suggested, then DC needs to be on it. Big time.

This is such bullshit. Since I happened to have worked at MPD I call your post BS. Morale began to slip in 2010 and it has been dropping every since. BLM has nothing to do with it.

I'd love to see DC bring in Bill Bratton or Ray Kelly to run MPD. They'd kick ass.

[Anonymous]

The idea about using the mobile vehicle scanners to scan out of state license plates at drop off is a good one. It would be both highly efficient and unobtrusive. Then DCPS should follow up if the vehicle is registered to any of the parents at an out of state address. If there's a separation/custody issue, fine, as long as the child is lives validly in DC part time. If it's a grandparent dropping off usually and the child lives in DC, fine. But if it turns out that the child really is a resident of MD, remove them from the school, bill the parents for back tuition and take legal action against them. And if it turns out that the parents are just keeping their ol' MD registration to save on insurance and fees while they live in DC, DCPS can happily refer the matter over to DPW and get it off their plate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The idea about using the mobile vehicle scanners to scan out of state license plates at drop off is a good one. It would be both highly efficient and unobtrusive. Then DCPS should follow up if the vehicle is registered to any of the parents at an out of state address. If there's a separation/custody issue, fine, as long as the child is lives validly in DC part time. If it's a grandparent dropping off usually and the child lives in DC, fine. But if it turns out that the child really is a resident of MD, remove them from the school, bill the parents for back tuition and take legal action against them. And if it turns out that the parents are just keeping their ol' MD registration to save on insurance and fees while they live in DC, DCPS can happily refer the matter over to DPW and get it off their plate.

I think all of this speaks to a bigger issue with DC government - none of the agencies talk to each other to root out fraud.

For instance, many people who own in DC and rent out a property continue to take the Homestead Deduction. Even though they are claiming rental income, deducting expenses and depreciating the house on their taxes, they are still reducing their tax burden by claiming the deduction. No one in RACD, DCRA, or the Tax & Revenue Office is cross-checking this. Likewise, the DC DMV should be sending info to the DC Tax & Revenue office - if someone has a car registered here as a resident (except for military, diplomats & appointees), they better be filing DC income taxes. OSSE should also be consulting with RACD and Tax & Revenue to ensure properties claimed as primary residence are not being rented, the parents are not reporting rental income, and parents are paying District income taxes.

This can all be done easily by matching Social Security numbers (on tax forms) and license ID numbers. This isn't rocket science.