Anybody following the Karen Read trial in Boston?

[Anonymous]

The CW created this mess by overcharging her. At best they have some evidence for involuntary manslaughter but they wanted 2nd degree. That’s where the feeling that someone is out to get her comes from. If they had stuck to involuntary or something like that she likely would have been convicted and we would never have heard about it.

[Anonymous]

If you’re into this kind of thing, heads up that Jonathan Markman, the medium, who helps with criminal investigations is going to be on the DeuxMoi podcast on Thursday discussing this case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The CW created this mess by overcharging her. At best they have some evidence for involuntary manslaughter but they wanted 2nd degree. That’s where the feeling that someone is out to get her comes from. If they had stuck to involuntary or something like that she likely would have been convicted and we would never have heard about it.

I totally agree. Huge mess on their part.

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Anonymous wrote:I listened to all of Jen McCabe’s testimony having known nothing of this case from the last one other than hearing people were obsessing over it. Never dug in before. Here’s my reaction:

Jen is lying. I have no idea why but her texts are weird. No one butt dials like what she’s claiming. And she’s clearly hiding something. That gives me incredible reason to be skeptical of her and he repeating the flimsy evidence tying Karen to the case at the end of her testimony swung me over to, nope, Jen is covering something up. More than enough for reasonable doubt in my mind.

+100 There were weird things going on inside that house and so many lies from the people there.

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Anonymous wrote:I think people are swayed in their judgement of her because frankly she’s pretty unlikable. She must have borderline personality disorder or something like it.

They are all unlikeable though, weird reckless and cold bunch of entitled drunks. So it does not sway me. I think she could have done it, but it cannot be proven any more than any other theory given how little info makes sense and all the lies they are all telling.

For example it’s plausible to me Jen didn’t think straight so did not ask her BIL to come do CPR, but it’s clearly a lie when she tells KR’s attorney she now cannot tell him if anyone on the street knew CPR. She knows her BIL at least, plus likely the guy across the street who is a retired cop. She was trying not to look bad but proved she lies on the stand. So what else did she lie about?

While I agree that They all have that offputtingMassachusetts personality, sort ofcold and terse, that’s not exactly what I mean with her. If you watch her Netflix “documentary“, she comes off almost as amused while she tells the story. She smiles at inappropriate times when talking about the death of her boyfriend. Even when talking about the children, she doesn’t really seem to be remorseful for what they’re going through. It’s just like a story She’s blurting out and is gossiping about. You can see her eyes light up when she talks about it. Very strange.

I don’t think she did any of this on purpose. But there’s something very off with her.

I think it has become a story and a bit abstract after recounting it 1000 times. She clearly was very upset the day of. And why should she feel remorseful if she did not do it?

Yes, that is likely part of it but one thing that doesn’t sit right with me is how she continues to call him by his first and last name. How many people do you know who have a strong emotional connection to someone and call them by their first and last name as if there’s some distant public figure? This is why I think she has some sort of personality disorder and or she’s disassociating herself from him as a human.

I grew up with one and know one know who everyone calls by first and last. Your assessment is meaningless.

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Anonymous wrote:I think people are swayed in their judgement of her because frankly she’s pretty unlikable. She must have borderline personality disorder or something like it.

They are all unlikeable though, weird reckless and cold bunch of entitled drunks. So it does not sway me. I think she could have done it, but it cannot be proven any more than any other theory given how little info makes sense and all the lies they are all telling.

For example it’s plausible to me Jen didn’t think straight so did not ask her BIL to come do CPR, but it’s clearly a lie when she tells KR’s attorney she now cannot tell him if anyone on the street knew CPR. She knows her BIL at least, plus likely the guy across the street who is a retired cop. She was trying not to look bad but proved she lies on the stand. So what else did she lie about?

While I agree that They all have that offputtingMassachusetts personality, sort ofcold and terse, that’s not exactly what I mean with her. If you watch her Netflix “documentary“, she comes off almost as amused while she tells the story. She smiles at inappropriate times when talking about the death of her boyfriend. Even when talking about the children, she doesn’t really seem to be remorseful for what they’re going through. It’s just like a story She’s blurting out and is gossiping about. You can see her eyes light up when she talks about it. Very strange.

I don’t think she did any of this on purpose. But there’s something very off with her.

I think it has become a story and a bit abstract after recounting it 1000 times. She clearly was very upset the day of. And why should she feel remorseful if she did not do it?

Yes, that is likely part of it but one thing that doesn’t sit right with me is how she continues to call him by his first and last name. How many people do you know who have a strong emotional connection to someone and call them by their first and last name as if there’s some distant public figure? This is why I think she has some sort of personality disorder and or she’s disassociating herself from him as a human.

I grew up with one and know one know who everyone calls by first and last. Your assessment is meaningless.

It happens a lot with men named John because it’s such a common first name.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you’re into this kind of thing, heads up that Jonathan Markman, the medium, who helps with criminal investigations is going to be on the DeuxMoi podcast on Thursday discussing this case.

What? Has he ever actually been helpful?

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Anonymous wrote:I think people are swayed in their judgement of her because frankly she’s pretty unlikable. She must have borderline personality disorder or something like it.

They are all unlikeable though, weird reckless and cold bunch of entitled drunks. So it does not sway me. I think she could have done it, but it cannot be proven any more than any other theory given how little info makes sense and all the lies they are all telling.

For example it’s plausible to me Jen didn’t think straight so did not ask her BIL to come do CPR, but it’s clearly a lie when she tells KR’s attorney she now cannot tell him if anyone on the street knew CPR. She knows her BIL at least, plus likely the guy across the street who is a retired cop. She was trying not to look bad but proved she lies on the stand. So what else did she lie about?

While I agree that They all have that offputtingMassachusetts personality, sort ofcold and terse, that’s not exactly what I mean with her. If you watch her Netflix “documentary“, she comes off almost as amused while she tells the story. She smiles at inappropriate times when talking about the death of her boyfriend. Even when talking about the children, she doesn’t really seem to be remorseful for what they’re going through. It’s just like a story She’s blurting out and is gossiping about. You can see her eyes light up when she talks about it. Very strange.

I don’t think she did any of this on purpose. But there’s something very off with her.

I think it has become a story and a bit abstract after recounting it 1000 times. She clearly was very upset the day of. And why should she feel remorseful if she did not do it?

Yes, that is likely part of it but one thing that doesn’t sit right with me is how she continues to call him by his first and last name. How many people do you know who have a strong emotional connection to someone and call them by their first and last name as if there’s some distant public figure? This is why I think she has some sort of personality disorder and or she’s disassociating herself from him as a human.

I grew up with one and know one know who everyone calls by first and last. Your assessment is meaningless.

It happens a lot with men named John because it’s such a common first name.

Not ones you’re in love with and have an intimate relationship with.

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Anonymous wrote:I think people are swayed in their judgement of her because frankly she’s pretty unlikable. She must have borderline personality disorder or something like it.

They are all unlikeable though, weird reckless and cold bunch of entitled drunks. So it does not sway me. I think she could have done it, but it cannot be proven any more than any other theory given how little info makes sense and all the lies they are all telling.

For example it’s plausible to me Jen didn’t think straight so did not ask her BIL to come do CPR, but it’s clearly a lie when she tells KR’s attorney she now cannot tell him if anyone on the street knew CPR. She knows her BIL at least, plus likely the guy across the street who is a retired cop. She was trying not to look bad but proved she lies on the stand. So what else did she lie about?

While I agree that They all have that offputtingMassachusetts personality, sort ofcold and terse, that’s not exactly what I mean with her. If you watch her Netflix “documentary“, she comes off almost as amused while she tells the story. She smiles at inappropriate times when talking about the death of her boyfriend. Even when talking about the children, she doesn’t really seem to be remorseful for what they’re going through. It’s just like a story She’s blurting out and is gossiping about. You can see her eyes light up when she talks about it. Very strange.

I don’t think she did any of this on purpose. But there’s something very off with her.

I think it has become a story and a bit abstract after recounting it 1000 times. She clearly was very upset the day of. And why should she feel remorseful if she did not do it?

Yes, that is likely part of it but one thing that doesn’t sit right with me is how she continues to call him by his first and last name. How many people do you know who have a strong emotional connection to someone and call them by their first and last name as if there’s some distant public figure? This is why I think she has some sort of personality disorder and or she’s disassociating herself from him as a human.

I grew up with one and know one know who everyone calls by first and last. Your assessment is meaningless.

It happens a lot with men named John because it’s such a common first name.

Not ones you’re in love with and have an intimate relationship with.

To be fair to her, in one of the interviews she pointed out it's now been longer since he died than the amount of time they were together and she looks at it dispassionately now. I generally can't stand her, but I get that.

[Anonymous]

If Karen Read was so drunk, how does she know definitively that she did not hit him????

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Anonymous wrote:I think people are swayed in their judgement of her because frankly she’s pretty unlikable. She must have borderline personality disorder or something like it.

They are all unlikeable though, weird reckless and cold bunch of entitled drunks. So it does not sway me. I think she could have done it, but it cannot be proven any more than any other theory given how little info makes sense and all the lies they are all telling.

For example it’s plausible to me Jen didn’t think straight so did not ask her BIL to come do CPR, but it’s clearly a lie when she tells KR’s attorney she now cannot tell him if anyone on the street knew CPR. She knows her BIL at least, plus likely the guy across the street who is a retired cop. She was trying not to look bad but proved she lies on the stand. So what else did she lie about?

While I agree that They all have that offputtingMassachusetts personality, sort ofcold and terse, that’s not exactly what I mean with her. If you watch her Netflix “documentary“, she comes off almost as amused while she tells the story. She smiles at inappropriate times when talking about the death of her boyfriend. Even when talking about the children, she doesn’t really seem to be remorseful for what they’re going through. It’s just like a story She’s blurting out and is gossiping about. You can see her eyes light up when she talks about it. Very strange.

I don’t think she did any of this on purpose. But there’s something very off with her.

I think it has become a story and a bit abstract after recounting it 1000 times. She clearly was very upset the day of. And why should she feel remorseful if she did not do it?

Yes, that is likely part of it but one thing that doesn’t sit right with me is how she continues to call him by his first and last name. How many people do you know who have a strong emotional connection to someone and call them by their first and last name as if there’s some distant public figure? This is why I think she has some sort of personality disorder and or she’s disassociating herself from him as a human.

I grew up with one and know one know who everyone calls by first and last. Your assessment is meaningless.

It happens a lot with men named John because it’s such a common first name.

Not ones you’re in love with and have an intimate relationship with.

Good point. Calling someone by their full name has to be evidence of guilt.

I wonder what we would think if she were referring to him as “the guy.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you’re into this kind of thing, heads up that Jonathan Markman, the medium, who helps with criminal investigations is going to be on the DeuxMoi podcast on Thursday discussing this case.

What fresh hell is this? A "medium"? This is already a disaster of a mess and now let's throw in some con artist who is going to come in and convince the population of dumb dumbs watching all this that the dead are speaking to him. What a sh*t show.

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Anonymous wrote:I think people are swayed in their judgement of her because frankly she’s pretty unlikable. She must have borderline personality disorder or something like it.

They are all unlikeable though, weird reckless and cold bunch of entitled drunks. So it does not sway me. I think she could have done it, but it cannot be proven any more than any other theory given how little info makes sense and all the lies they are all telling.

For example it’s plausible to me Jen didn’t think straight so did not ask her BIL to come do CPR, but it’s clearly a lie when she tells KR’s attorney she now cannot tell him if anyone on the street knew CPR. She knows her BIL at least, plus likely the guy across the street who is a retired cop. She was trying not to look bad but proved she lies on the stand. So what else did she lie about?

While I agree that They all have that offputtingMassachusetts personality, sort ofcold and terse, that’s not exactly what I mean with her. If you watch her Netflix “documentary“, she comes off almost as amused while she tells the story. She smiles at inappropriate times when talking about the death of her boyfriend. Even when talking about the children, she doesn’t really seem to be remorseful for what they’re going through. It’s just like a story She’s blurting out and is gossiping about. You can see her eyes light up when she talks about it. Very strange.

I don’t think she did any of this on purpose. But there’s something very off with her.

I think it has become a story and a bit abstract after recounting it 1000 times. She clearly was very upset the day of. And why should she feel remorseful if she did not do it?

Yes, that is likely part of it but one thing that doesn’t sit right with me is how she continues to call him by his first and last name. How many people do you know who have a strong emotional connection to someone and call them by their first and last name as if there’s some distant public figure? This is why I think she has some sort of personality disorder and or she’s disassociating herself from him as a human.

I grew up with one and know one know who everyone calls by first and last. Your assessment is meaningless.

It happens a lot with men named John because it’s such a common first name.

This exactly. Kevin is also a name that gets this treatment. I also know women who refer to their boyfriends this way although it is usually part of a funny story. It's just ridiculous though the crazy crap people come up with to convince themselves that they have figured it out.

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Anonymous wrote:I think people are swayed in their judgement of her because frankly she’s pretty unlikable. She must have borderline personality disorder or something like it.

They are all unlikeable though, weird reckless and cold bunch of entitled drunks. So it does not sway me. I think she could have done it, but it cannot be proven any more than any other theory given how little info makes sense and all the lies they are all telling.

For example it’s plausible to me Jen didn’t think straight so did not ask her BIL to come do CPR, but it’s clearly a lie when she tells KR’s attorney she now cannot tell him if anyone on the street knew CPR. She knows her BIL at least, plus likely the guy across the street who is a retired cop. She was trying not to look bad but proved she lies on the stand. So what else did she lie about?

While I agree that They all have that offputtingMassachusetts personality, sort ofcold and terse, that’s not exactly what I mean with her. If you watch her Netflix “documentary“, she comes off almost as amused while she tells the story. She smiles at inappropriate times when talking about the death of her boyfriend. Even when talking about the children, she doesn’t really seem to be remorseful for what they’re going through. It’s just like a story She’s blurting out and is gossiping about. You can see her eyes light up when she talks about it. Very strange.

I don’t think she did any of this on purpose. But there’s something very off with her.

I think it has become a story and a bit abstract after recounting it 1000 times. She clearly was very upset the day of. And why should she feel remorseful if she did not do it?

Yes, that is likely part of it but one thing that doesn’t sit right with me is how she continues to call him by his first and last name. How many people do you know who have a strong emotional connection to someone and call them by their first and last name as if there’s some distant public figure? This is why I think she has some sort of personality disorder and or she’s disassociating herself from him as a human.

I grew up with one and know one know who everyone calls by first and last. Your assessment is meaningless.

It happens a lot with men named John because it’s such a common first name.

Not ones you’re in love with and have an intimate relationship with.

Says who? What a load of bs. Posts like this and everything that man is doing to the country make me feel like democracy is going to fail.

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Anonymous wrote:I think people are swayed in their judgement of her because frankly she’s pretty unlikable. She must have borderline personality disorder or something like it.

They are all unlikeable though, weird reckless and cold bunch of entitled drunks. So it does not sway me. I think she could have done it, but it cannot be proven any more than any other theory given how little info makes sense and all the lies they are all telling.

For example it’s plausible to me Jen didn’t think straight so did not ask her BIL to come do CPR, but it’s clearly a lie when she tells KR’s attorney she now cannot tell him if anyone on the street knew CPR. She knows her BIL at least, plus likely the guy across the street who is a retired cop. She was trying not to look bad but proved she lies on the stand. So what else did she lie about?

While I agree that They all have that offputtingMassachusetts personality, sort ofcold and terse, that’s not exactly what I mean with her. If you watch her Netflix “documentary“, she comes off almost as amused while she tells the story. She smiles at inappropriate times when talking about the death of her boyfriend. Even when talking about the children, she doesn’t really seem to be remorseful for what they’re going through. It’s just like a story She’s blurting out and is gossiping about. You can see her eyes light up when she talks about it. Very strange.

I don’t think she did any of this on purpose. But there’s something very off with her.

I think it has become a story and a bit abstract after recounting it 1000 times. She clearly was very upset the day of. And why should she feel remorseful if she did not do it?

Yes, that is likely part of it but one thing that doesn’t sit right with me is how she continues to call him by his first and last name. How many people do you know who have a strong emotional connection to someone and call them by their first and last name as if there’s some distant public figure? This is why I think she has some sort of personality disorder and or she’s disassociating herself from him as a human.

I grew up with one and know one know who everyone calls by first and last. Your assessment is meaningless.

It happens a lot with men named John because it’s such a common first name.

Not ones you’re in love with and have an intimate relationship with.

Good point. Calling someone by their full name has to be evidence of guilt.

I wonder what we would think if she were referring to him as “the guy.”

No one said it was evidence of guilt. They said it was evident she likely has borderline personality disorder. Part of her quirks. And things like that will sway a jury because she will not seem sympathetic/remorseful at losing a boyfriend.