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Anonymous wrote:If you take a quick look at U9B for NCSL this spring you can see that VRSC Black was playing LS City and they had similar schedules. Just by this you can assume that VRSC #1 team = LS #3 in most cases. I think parents who dont see this are drinking the kool-aid. This by no means is a swipe at your child. If the kid wants to get to the level where they are at a top club playing top teams then they need to work for it. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't look at it that way at all. LS #3 = VRSC #3. VRSC doesn't have a #1 or #2 team yet. If they are able to get MLSN then they will form new teams that will become comparable with LS #1 and #2.

This is exactly what happened on the girls side. VRSC got Girls Academy and formed two completely new teams that will be comparable to LS #1 and LS #2. The existing VRSC Black team remains #3 in NCSL.

It's not useful to compare teams from clubs of different sizes based on their order in the club. Makes more sense to compare teams in similar leagues. Compare NCSL teams with NCSL, RL/EDP teams, GA/ECNL/MLSN teams.

Vrsc girls GA teams will be equivalent to LS top teams? You sure about that?

With the influx of top players from other clubs? Absolutely.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take a quick look at U9B for NCSL this spring you can see that VRSC Black was playing LS City and they had similar schedules. Just by this you can assume that VRSC #1 team = LS #3 in most cases. I think parents who dont see this are drinking the kool-aid. This by no means is a swipe at your child. If the kid wants to get to the level where they are at a top club playing top teams then they need to work for it. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't look at it that way at all. LS #3 = VRSC #3. VRSC doesn't have a #1 or #2 team yet. If they are able to get MLSN then they will form new teams that will become comparable with LS #1 and #2.

This is exactly what happened on the girls side. VRSC got Girls Academy and formed two completely new teams that will be comparable to LS #1 and LS #2. The existing VRSC Black team remains #3 in NCSL.

It's not useful to compare teams from clubs of different sizes based on their order in the club. Makes more sense to compare teams in similar leagues. Compare NCSL teams with NCSL, RL/EDP teams, GA/ECNL/MLSN teams.

Vrsc girls GA teams will be equivalent to LS top teams? You sure about that?

Yes they will be in the same league. Not literally the same league (ga not ecnl) but competitive enough with each other.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take a quick look at U9B for NCSL this spring you can see that VRSC Black was playing LS City and they had similar schedules. Just by this you can assume that VRSC #1 team = LS #3 in most cases. I think parents who dont see this are drinking the kool-aid. This by no means is a swipe at your child. If the kid wants to get to the level where they are at a top club playing top teams then they need to work for it. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't look at it that way at all. LS #3 = VRSC #3. VRSC doesn't have a #1 or #2 team yet. If they are able to get MLSN then they will form new teams that will become comparable with LS #1 and #2.

This is exactly what happened on the girls side. VRSC got Girls Academy and formed two completely new teams that will be comparable to LS #1 and LS #2. The existing VRSC Black team remains #3 in NCSL.

It's not useful to compare teams from clubs of different sizes based on their order in the club. Makes more sense to compare teams in similar leagues. Compare NCSL teams with NCSL, RL/EDP teams, GA/ECNL/MLSN teams.

Vrsc girls GA teams will be equivalent to LS top teams? You sure about that?

Yes they will be in the same league. Not literally the same league (ga not ecnl) but competitive enough with each other.

Being in GA does not all of a sudden mean you’re going to be competitive with other top teams. See Metro.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take a quick look at U9B for NCSL this spring you can see that VRSC Black was playing LS City and they had similar schedules. Just by this you can assume that VRSC #1 team = LS #3 in most cases. I think parents who dont see this are drinking the kool-aid. This by no means is a swipe at your child. If the kid wants to get to the level where they are at a top club playing top teams then they need to work for it. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't look at it that way at all. LS #3 = VRSC #3. VRSC doesn't have a #1 or #2 team yet. If they are able to get MLSN then they will form new teams that will become comparable with LS #1 and #2.

This is exactly what happened on the girls side. VRSC got Girls Academy and formed two completely new teams that will be comparable to LS #1 and LS #2. The existing VRSC Black team remains #3 in NCSL.

It's not useful to compare teams from clubs of different sizes based on their order in the club. Makes more sense to compare teams in similar leagues. Compare NCSL teams with NCSL, RL/EDP teams, GA/ECNL/MLSN teams.

Vrsc girls GA teams will be equivalent to LS top teams? You sure about that?

My 2 cents is this parent is not familiar with top talent. My DD went to tryouts for VRSC and received GA-1 offer. The talent at the tryouts did not seem much better than a top tier Regional League team. I am not throwing shade on VRSC, its just the really good FCV girls did not come over to the GA teams at VRSC .

I am a fan of VRSC vison and complex, I just think it will take them 2-3 years to get the players in the pipeline to compete at a high level.

With the influx of top players from other clubs? Absolutely.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take a quick look at U9B for NCSL this spring you can see that VRSC Black was playing LS City and they had similar schedules. Just by this you can assume that VRSC #1 team = LS #3 in most cases. I think parents who dont see this are drinking the kool-aid. This by no means is a swipe at your child. If the kid wants to get to the level where they are at a top club playing top teams then they need to work for it. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't look at it that way at all. LS #3 = VRSC #3. VRSC doesn't have a #1 or #2 team yet. If they are able to get MLSN then they will form new teams that will become comparable with LS #1 and #2.

This is exactly what happened on the girls side. VRSC got Girls Academy and formed two completely new teams that will be comparable to LS #1 and LS #2. The existing VRSC Black team remains #3 in NCSL.

It's not useful to compare teams from clubs of different sizes based on their order in the club. Makes more sense to compare teams in similar leagues. Compare NCSL teams with NCSL, RL/EDP teams, GA/ECNL/MLSN teams.

Vrsc girls GA teams will be equivalent to LS top teams? You sure about that?

My 2 cents is this parent is not familiar with top talent. My DD went to tryouts for VRSC and received GA-1 offer. The talent at the tryouts did not seem much better than a top tier Regional League team. I am not throwing shade on VRSC, its just the really good FCV girls did not come over to the GA teams at VRSC .

I am a fan of VRSC vison and complex, I just think it will take them 2-3 years to get the players in the pipeline to compete at a high level.

With the influx of top players from other clubs? Absolutely.

Yes because the top tier didn't need to tryout. Their old coaches and TA already promised then spots. Some came. Some did not. An entire team was offered and deferred to just get through the spring.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take a quick look at U9B for NCSL this spring you can see that VRSC Black was playing LS City and they had similar schedules. Just by this you can assume that VRSC #1 team = LS #3 in most cases. I think parents who dont see this are drinking the kool-aid. This by no means is a swipe at your child. If the kid wants to get to the level where they are at a top club playing top teams then they need to work for it. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't look at it that way at all. LS #3 = VRSC #3. VRSC doesn't have a #1 or #2 team yet. If they are able to get MLSN then they will form new teams that will become comparable with LS #1 and #2.

This is exactly what happened on the girls side. VRSC got Girls Academy and formed two completely new teams that will be comparable to LS #1 and LS #2. The existing VRSC Black team remains #3 in NCSL.

It's not useful to compare teams from clubs of different sizes based on their order in the club. Makes more sense to compare teams in similar leagues. Compare NCSL teams with NCSL, RL/EDP teams, GA/ECNL/MLSN teams.

Vrsc girls GA teams will be equivalent to LS top teams? You sure about that?

Honestly, this is probably right. VRSC GA is probably = to LS top team, which is ECNL RL.

Not close to NVA.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take a quick look at U9B for NCSL this spring you can see that VRSC Black was playing LS City and they had similar schedules. Just by this you can assume that VRSC #1 team = LS #3 in most cases. I think parents who dont see this are drinking the kool-aid. This by no means is a swipe at your child. If the kid wants to get to the level where they are at a top club playing top teams then they need to work for it. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't look at it that way at all. LS #3 = VRSC #3. VRSC doesn't have a #1 or #2 team yet. If they are able to get MLSN then they will form new teams that will become comparable with LS #1 and #2.

This is exactly what happened on the girls side. VRSC got Girls Academy and formed two completely new teams that will be comparable to LS #1 and LS #2. The existing VRSC Black team remains #3 in NCSL.

It's not useful to compare teams from clubs of different sizes based on their order in the club. Makes more sense to compare teams in similar leagues. Compare NCSL teams with NCSL, RL/EDP teams, GA/ECNL/MLSN teams.

Vrsc girls GA teams will be equivalent to LS top teams? You sure about that?

My 2 cents is this parent is not familiar with top talent. My DD went to tryouts for VRSC and received GA-1 offer. The talent at the tryouts did not seem much better than a top tier Regional League team. I am not throwing shade on VRSC, its just the really good FCV girls did not come over to the GA teams at VRSC .

I am a fan of VRSC vison and complex, I just think it will take them 2-3 years to get the players in the pipeline to compete at a high level.

With the influx of top players from other clubs? Absolutely.

Yes because the top tier didn't need to tryout. Their old coaches and TA already promised then spots. Some came. Some did not. An entire team was offered and deferred to just get through the spring.

Of those that did come, would you say that they are the stronger girls from FCV?

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Top players from FCV who BP favored went to VDA. Remaining top players mostly went to revolution. Older players split and stayed. Unfortunately the quest for soccer recruiting ruins players at LS and VDA. They take the most aggressive over the talented players. The talented players who are slow and steady in their improvement have the most success in the long run. Some don't make it because they don't stand out enough which is an unfortunate reality.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take a quick look at U9B for NCSL this spring you can see that VRSC Black was playing LS City and they had similar schedules. Just by this you can assume that VRSC #1 team = LS #3 in most cases. I think parents who dont see this are drinking the kool-aid. This by no means is a swipe at your child. If the kid wants to get to the level where they are at a top club playing top teams then they need to work for it. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't look at it that way at all. LS #3 = VRSC #3. VRSC doesn't have a #1 or #2 team yet. If they are able to get MLSN then they will form new teams that will become comparable with LS #1 and #2.

This is exactly what happened on the girls side. VRSC got Girls Academy and formed two completely new teams that will be comparable to LS #1 and LS #2. The existing VRSC Black team remains #3 in NCSL.

It's not useful to compare teams from clubs of different sizes based on their order in the club. Makes more sense to compare teams in similar leagues. Compare NCSL teams with NCSL, RL/EDP teams, GA/ECNL/MLSN teams.

Vrsc girls GA teams will be equivalent to LS top teams? You sure about that?

Yes they will be in the same league. Not literally the same league (ga not ecnl) but competitive enough with each other.

Being in GA does not all of a sudden mean you’re going to be competitive with other top teams. See Metro.

True, but Metro was created from scratch and never got over the hump. At least VRSC has a base. Having said that not sure where they will end up with all the GA/ECNL clubs in the region. It's hard to predict. On the flip side, a team to our north , the Ukies, joined the GA just a few years ago and they were abysmal in GA for the first couple of years. Now they will be a hailed addition to ECNL next year.

It's a wait and see game but I would not bet against VRSC becoming strong over the next few years just yet.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take a quick look at U9B for NCSL this spring you can see that VRSC Black was playing LS City and they had similar schedules. Just by this you can assume that VRSC #1 team = LS #3 in most cases. I think parents who dont see this are drinking the kool-aid. This by no means is a swipe at your child. If the kid wants to get to the level where they are at a top club playing top teams then they need to work for it. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't look at it that way at all. LS #3 = VRSC #3. VRSC doesn't have a #1 or #2 team yet. If they are able to get MLSN then they will form new teams that will become comparable with LS #1 and #2.

This is exactly what happened on the girls side. VRSC got Girls Academy and formed two completely new teams that will be comparable to LS #1 and LS #2. The existing VRSC Black team remains #3 in NCSL.

It's not useful to compare teams from clubs of different sizes based on their order in the club. Makes more sense to compare teams in similar leagues. Compare NCSL teams with NCSL, RL/EDP teams, GA/ECNL/MLSN teams.

Vrsc girls GA teams will be equivalent to LS top teams? You sure about that?

Yes they will be in the same league. Not literally the same league (ga not ecnl) but competitive enough with each other.

Being in GA does not all of a sudden mean you’re going to be competitive with other top teams. See Metro.

True, but Metro was created from scratch and never got over the hump. At least VRSC has a base. Having said that not sure where they will end up with all the GA/ECNL clubs in the region. It's hard to predict. On the flip side, a team to our north , the Ukies, joined the GA just a few years ago and they were abysmal in GA for the first couple of years. Now they will be a hailed addition to ECNL next year.

It's a wait and see game but I would not bet against VRSC becoming strong over the next few years just yet.

Do they? Their teams were somewhere between mediocre and terrible at every level. It will take more than a few additions to make them competitive

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Anonymous wrote:If you take a quick look at U9B for NCSL this spring you can see that VRSC Black was playing LS City and they had similar schedules. Just by this you can assume that VRSC #1 team = LS #3 in most cases. I think parents who dont see this are drinking the kool-aid. This by no means is a swipe at your child. If the kid wants to get to the level where they are at a top club playing top teams then they need to work for it. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't look at it that way at all. LS #3 = VRSC #3. VRSC doesn't have a #1 or #2 team yet. If they are able to get MLSN then they will form new teams that will become comparable with LS #1 and #2.

This is exactly what happened on the girls side. VRSC got Girls Academy and formed two completely new teams that will be comparable to LS #1 and LS #2. The existing VRSC Black team remains #3 in NCSL.

It's not useful to compare teams from clubs of different sizes based on their order in the club. Makes more sense to compare teams in similar leagues. Compare NCSL teams with NCSL, RL/EDP teams, GA/ECNL/MLSN teams.

Vrsc girls GA teams will be equivalent to LS top teams? You sure about that?

Yes they will be in the same league. Not literally the same league (ga not ecnl) but competitive enough with each other.

Being in GA does not all of a sudden mean you’re going to be competitive with other top teams. See Metro.

True, but Metro was created from scratch and never got over the hump. At least VRSC has a base. Having said that not sure where they will end up with all the GA/ECNL clubs in the region. It's hard to predict. On the flip side, a team to our north , the Ukies, joined the GA just a few years ago and they were abysmal in GA for the first couple of years. Now they will be a hailed addition to ECNL next year.

It's a wait and see game but I would not bet against VRSC becoming strong over the next few years just yet.

Do they? Their teams were somewhere between mediocre and terrible at every level. It will take more than a few additions to make them competitive

Hi Adam. Taking a break from a busy morning of looking for field space?

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Anonymous wrote:If you take a quick look at U9B for NCSL this spring you can see that VRSC Black was playing LS City and they had similar schedules. Just by this you can assume that VRSC #1 team = LS #3 in most cases. I think parents who dont see this are drinking the kool-aid. This by no means is a swipe at your child. If the kid wants to get to the level where they are at a top club playing top teams then they need to work for it. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't look at it that way at all. LS #3 = VRSC #3. VRSC doesn't have a #1 or #2 team yet. If they are able to get MLSN then they will form new teams that will become comparable with LS #1 and #2.

This is exactly what happened on the girls side. VRSC got Girls Academy and formed two completely new teams that will be comparable to LS #1 and LS #2. The existing VRSC Black team remains #3 in NCSL.

It's not useful to compare teams from clubs of different sizes based on their order in the club. Makes more sense to compare teams in similar leagues. Compare NCSL teams with NCSL, RL/EDP teams, GA/ECNL/MLSN teams.

Vrsc girls GA teams will be equivalent to LS top teams? You sure about that?

Yes they will be in the same league. Not literally the same league (ga not ecnl) but competitive enough with each other.

Being in GA does not all of a sudden mean you’re going to be competitive with other top teams. See Metro.

True, but Metro was created from scratch and never got over the hump. At least VRSC has a base. Having said that not sure where they will end up with all the GA/ECNL clubs in the region. It's hard to predict. On the flip side, a team to our north , the Ukies, joined the GA just a few years ago and they were abysmal in GA for the first couple of years. Now they will be a hailed addition to ECNL next year.

It's a wait and see game but I would not bet against VRSC becoming strong over the next few years just yet.

Do they? Their teams were somewhere between mediocre and terrible at every level. It will take more than a few additions to make them competitive

Yes, FCV is the base. FCV lost all of their GA players, coaches, and field for next year. Majority of them are going to VRSC, some to VDA, some to other clubs. The GA club that is starting completely from scratch is TSJFC (formerly FCV). At this point it would be more accurate to refer to VRSC as formerly FCV.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take a quick look at U9B for NCSL this spring you can see that VRSC Black was playing LS City and they had similar schedules. Just by this you can assume that VRSC #1 team = LS #3 in most cases. I think parents who dont see this are drinking the kool-aid. This by no means is a swipe at your child. If the kid wants to get to the level where they are at a top club playing top teams then they need to work for it. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't look at it that way at all. LS #3 = VRSC #3. VRSC doesn't have a #1 or #2 team yet. If they are able to get MLSN then they will form new teams that will become comparable with LS #1 and #2.

This is exactly what happened on the girls side. VRSC got Girls Academy and formed two completely new teams that will be comparable to LS #1 and LS #2. The existing VRSC Black team remains #3 in NCSL.

It's not useful to compare teams from clubs of different sizes based on their order in the club. Makes more sense to compare teams in similar leagues. Compare NCSL teams with NCSL, RL/EDP teams, GA/ECNL/MLSN teams.

Vrsc girls GA teams will be equivalent to LS top teams? You sure about that?

Yes they will be in the same league. Not literally the same league (ga not ecnl) but competitive enough with each other.

Being in GA does not all of a sudden mean you’re going to be competitive with other top teams. See Metro.

True, but Metro was created from scratch and never got over the hump. At least VRSC has a base. Having said that not sure where they will end up with all the GA/ECNL clubs in the region. It's hard to predict. On the flip side, a team to our north , the Ukies, joined the GA just a few years ago and they were abysmal in GA for the first couple of years. Now they will be a hailed addition to ECNL next year.

It's a wait and see game but I would not bet against VRSC becoming strong over the next few years just yet.

Do they? Their teams were somewhere between mediocre and terrible at every level. It will take more than a few additions to make them competitive

Yes, FCV is the base. FCV lost all of their GA players, coaches, and field for next year. Majority of them are going to VRSC, some to VDA, some to other clubs. The GA club that is starting completely from scratch is TSJFC (formerly FCV). At this point it would be more accurate to refer to VRSC as formerly FCV.

More accurate but far from the truth.

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Anonymous wrote:My 2 cents is this parent is not familiar with top talent. My DD went to tryouts for VRSC and received GA-1 offer. The talent at the tryouts did not seem much better than a top tier Regional League team. I am not throwing shade on VRSC, its just the really good FCV girls did not come over to the GA teams at VRSC .

I am a fan of VRSC vison and complex, I just think it will take them 2-3 years to get the players in the pipeline to compete at a high level.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take a quick look at U9B for NCSL this spring you can see that VRSC Black was playing LS City and they had similar schedules. Just by this you can assume that VRSC #1 team = LS #3 in most cases. I think parents who dont see this are drinking the kool-aid. This by no means is a swipe at your child. If the kid wants to get to the level where they are at a top club playing top teams then they need to work for it. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't look at it that way at all. LS #3 = VRSC #3. VRSC doesn't have a #1 or #2 team yet. If they are able to get MLSN then they will form new teams that will become comparable with LS #1 and #2.

This is exactly what happened on the girls side. VRSC got Girls Academy and formed two completely new teams that will be comparable to LS #1 and LS #2. The existing VRSC Black team remains #3 in NCSL.

It's not useful to compare teams from clubs of different sizes based on their order in the club. Makes more sense to compare teams in similar leagues. Compare NCSL teams with NCSL, RL/EDP teams, GA/ECNL/MLSN teams.

Vrsc girls GA teams will be equivalent to LS top teams? You sure about that?

Yes they will be in the same league. Not literally the same league (ga not ecnl) but competitive enough with each other.

Being in GA does not all of a sudden mean you’re going to be competitive with other top teams. See Metro.

True, but Metro was created from scratch and never got over the hump. At least VRSC has a base. Having said that not sure where they will end up with all the GA/ECNL clubs in the region. It's hard to predict. On the flip side, a team to our north , the Ukies, joined the GA just a few years ago and they were abysmal in GA for the first couple of years. Now they will be a hailed addition to ECNL next year.

It's a wait and see game but I would not bet against VRSC becoming strong over the next few years just yet.

Do they? Their teams were somewhere between mediocre and terrible at every level. It will take more than a few additions to make them competitive

Yes, FCV is the base. FCV lost all of their GA players, coaches, and field for next year. Majority of them are going to VRSC, some to VDA, some to other clubs. The GA club that is starting completely from scratch is TSJFC (formerly FCV). At this point it would be more accurate to refer to VRSC as formerly FCV.

More accurate but far from the truth.

What's "far" from the truth? I would say the references to losing "all of ther GA players" and "starting completely from scratch" is a little bit of an exaggeration. If you say many (or most?) instead of all, it's pretty spot on.