Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update

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There is a large increase in wastewater for the entire US including VA a large increase in hospitalizations and an increase in deaths from covid right now. This is the second largest wave since 2020. "You need the updated XBB.1.5 vaccine to be better protected against JN.1. A new study this week from Kaiser Permanente of Southern California and Pfizer shows that prior vaccinations do nothing to protect you against hospitalization with JN.1; only the updated XBB.1.5 vaccine does." This is an updated vaccine and NOT called a booster. It's an entire new shot.


https://drruth.substack.com/p/covid-news-and-more-123023


CDC COVID Wasterwater results broken down by local watershed locations. Much easier to read in this format:
https://www.reddit.com/r/coronavirusVA/commen...a_as_of_dec_29_2023/

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Anonymous wrote:Why PP? What is it about this booster just curious?

My doctor and my kids' pediatrician weren't against the booster by any means, but they said not to expect it to have much of a benefit after about 2-3 months. I already knew that, but was a bit surprised they were both so up-front about it.

Was he/she/they suggesting re-vaccinating every three months??

No. I'm not that pp, but you definitely want to get the vaccine before respiratory virus season, when you will be indoors with more people. It's the same with the flu shot.

There's a huge spike in flu cases in the winter, but only a relatively small increase in covid cases. It's really not comparable.

Per the Washington Post, there is currently a Covid 19 spike occurring.

Define "spike." A 20% increase isn't a spike, particularly when it comes at an expected time of year.

In what world is 20% not a spike? It’s an absurd comment.

Look at what happens with flu cases every winter. That's a spike. Or the Delta and Omicron surges. A 20% increase isn't even noticeable except by looking at reported data.

What are you even talking about with your 20% increase? Locally, we are heading to the second worst wave ever (currently at about last year's peak already, with New Years to go). And cases all year round - unlike the flu.

No, nobody anywhere is in the “second worst wave ever.”

Agreed. The "second worst wave ever" claim stems from a misinterpretation of wastewater data.

From a different thread:
The "second largest wave" argument centers on wastewater readings. While WW is useful for seeing trends, it is not able to provide precise estimates of caseload magnitude. Many things can influence WW readings. Different variants can cause differing amounts of shedding and have shorter/longer windows for PCR confirmation. WW testing is also evolving, with improved methods of concentration and extraction being used, which could account for greater detection relative to prior years. WW readings should be used in concert with other indicators to assess trends and should not be used as an absolute caseload measure.

The key variables that matter are covid hospitalizations and deaths which are currently the smallest they have been in the winter season since covid emerged.
Hospitalizations: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklyhospitaladmissions_select_00
Deaths: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklydeaths_select_00

Maybe only hospitalization and death matter for purposes of public health action, but the overall level of COVID in a community, as reflected by wastewater samples, is still relevant for those who want to avoid becoming infected or infecting others. It's great news that we are seeing high levels of COVID in wastewater that does not correspond with a huge increase in serious illness, and that might be reason enough for people not to care. Others may be willing to curtail activities, test when sick, or mask during these waves. Not everyone minds taking precautions, especially when COVID levels are high.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a large increase in wastewater for the entire US including VA a large increase in hospitalizations and an increase in deaths from covid right now. This is the second largest wave since 2020. "You need the updated XBB.1.5 vaccine to be better protected against JN.1. A new study this week from Kaiser Permanente of Southern California and Pfizer shows that prior vaccinations do nothing to protect you against hospitalization with JN.1; only the updated XBB.1.5 vaccine does." This is an updated vaccine and NOT called a booster. It's an entire new shot.


https://drruth.substack.com/p/covid-news-and-more-123023


CDC COVID Wasterwater results broken down by local watershed locations. Much easier to read in this format:
https://www.reddit.com/r/coronavirusVA/commen...a_as_of_dec_29_2023/

The first set of citations are not from neutral sources:
1) The substack author is affiliated with a non-profit centered on "providing solutions for the prevention, diagnostics and treatment of the novel coronavirus". She is not a disinterested party. https://med.stanford.edu/profiles/ruth-crysta...ab=cap-profiles-home https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/202003...-COVID-19-Task-Force
2) The booster study was done by Pfizer and Kaiser and funded by Pfizer. Kaiser works closely with the CDC on covid policy and its Vaccine Study Center director presents at CDC ACIP covid meetings. https://divisionofresearch.kaiserpermanente.o...accine-study-center/

Covid hospitalizations and deaths remain at their lowest winter levels since covid emerged despite minimal uptake of the new booster.

[Anonymous]

Stop the insanity! Get the jab!

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Interesting seeing all the new "I've got covid" posts popping up now. I wonder how many peeps secretly with they'd vaxxed.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting seeing all the new "I've got covid" posts popping up now. I wonder how many peeps secretly with they'd vaxxed.

Again, for the millionth time, the vaccines don’t prevent transmission.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a large increase in wastewater for the entire US including VA a large increase in hospitalizations and an increase in deaths from covid right now. This is the second largest wave since 2020. "You need the updated XBB.1.5 vaccine to be better protected against JN.1. A new study this week from Kaiser Permanente of Southern California and Pfizer shows that prior vaccinations do nothing to protect you against hospitalization with JN.1; only the updated XBB.1.5 vaccine does." This is an updated vaccine and NOT called a booster. It's an entire new shot.


https://drruth.substack.com/p/covid-news-and-more-123023


CDC COVID Wasterwater results broken down by local watershed locations. Much easier to read in this format:
https://www.reddit.com/r/coronavirusVA/commen...a_as_of_dec_29_2023/

The first set of citations are not from neutral sources:
1) The substack author is affiliated with a non-profit centered on "providing solutions for the prevention, diagnostics and treatment of the novel coronavirus". She is not a disinterested party. https://med.stanford.edu/profiles/ruth-crysta...ab=cap-profiles-home https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/202003...-COVID-19-Task-Force
2) The booster study was done by Pfizer and Kaiser and funded by Pfizer. Kaiser works closely with the CDC on covid policy and its Vaccine Study Center director presents at CDC ACIP covid meetings. https://divisionofresearch.kaiserpermanente.o...accine-study-center/

Covid hospitalizations and deaths remain at their lowest winter levels since covid emerged despite minimal uptake of the new booster.

Thank you for pointing this out. There are many who have a vested interest in keeping the covid hysteria going.

Add in Pfizer's interest in pushing testing. While they don't manufacture tests, they do have a stake in increased testing so they can try to offset slumping sales of Paxlovid.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-swings-quarterly-loss-due-paxlovid-write-off-2023-10-31/

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Anonymous wrote:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
What are we in for???

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/11/18/only-14-of-us-adults-have-gotten-latest-updated-covid-19-vaccine/

This is beyond horrible.

86% people in our country are Putin-funded ultra MAGA folks!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhh, someone bring me a drink.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is a large increase in wastewater for the entire US including VA a large increase in hospitalizations and an increase in deaths from covid right now. This is the second largest wave since 2020. "You need the updated XBB.1.5 vaccine to be better protected against JN.1. A new study this week from Kaiser Permanente of Southern California and Pfizer shows that prior vaccinations do nothing to protect you against hospitalization with JN.1; only the updated XBB.1.5 vaccine does." This is an updated vaccine and NOT called a booster. It's an entire new shot.


https://drruth.substack.com/p/covid-news-and-more-123023


CDC COVID Wasterwater results broken down by local watershed locations. Much easier to read in this format:
https://www.reddit.com/r/coronavirusVA/commen...a_as_of_dec_29_2023/

The first set of citations are not from neutral sources:
1) The substack author is affiliated with a non-profit centered on "providing solutions for the prevention, diagnostics and treatment of the novel coronavirus". She is not a disinterested party. https://med.stanford.edu/profiles/ruth-crysta...ab=cap-profiles-home https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/202003...-COVID-19-Task-Force
2) The booster study was done by Pfizer and Kaiser and funded by Pfizer. Kaiser works closely with the CDC on covid policy and its Vaccine Study Center director presents at CDC ACIP covid meetings. https://divisionofresearch.kaiserpermanente.o...accine-study-center/

Covid hospitalizations and deaths remain at their lowest winter levels since covid emerged despite minimal uptake of the new booster.

Thank you for pointing this out. There are many who have a vested interest in keeping the covid hysteria going.

Add in Pfizer's interest in pushing testing. While they don't manufacture tests, they do have a stake in increased testing so they can try to offset slumping sales of Paxlovid.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-swings-quarterly-loss-due-paxlovid-write-off-2023-10-31/

Who? Who are these mythical beings who just love the drama. Oh, wait...

Unless you're implying everyone here asking folx to vax and mask is a pfizer shill, you're the one who seems invested in the drama. If you see covid precautions as "hysteria", log off and go suck air indoors for a bit. Unmasked. For science.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting seeing all the new "I've got covid" posts popping up now. I wonder how many peeps secretly with they'd vaxxed.

Again, for the millionth time, the vaccines don’t prevent transmission.

That's not entirely true. While the vaccines do not and have never claimed to provide sterilizing immunity, there are studies that have shown a reduction in infection (and transmission), particularly in the weeks following vaccine administration. Here is one example:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02138-x

The CDC acknowledges that the vaccine's protection against infection tends to be "modest and sometimes short-lived."

https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/whats-new/5-things-you-should-know.html#:~:text=COVID%2D19%20vaccines%20provide%20sustained,at%20protecting%20against%20severe%20illness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There is a large increase in wastewater for the entire US including VA a large increase in hospitalizations and an increase in deaths from covid right now. This is the second largest wave since 2020. "You need the updated XBB.1.5 vaccine to be better protected against JN.1. A new study this week from Kaiser Permanente of Southern California and Pfizer shows that prior vaccinations do nothing to protect you against hospitalization with JN.1; only the updated XBB.1.5 vaccine does." This is an updated vaccine and NOT called a booster. It's an entire new shot.


https://drruth.substack.com/p/covid-news-and-more-123023


CDC COVID Wasterwater results broken down by local watershed locations. Much easier to read in this format:
https://www.reddit.com/r/coronavirusVA/commen...a_as_of_dec_29_2023/

The first set of citations are not from neutral sources:
1) The substack author is affiliated with a non-profit centered on "providing solutions for the prevention, diagnostics and treatment of the novel coronavirus". She is not a disinterested party. https://med.stanford.edu/profiles/ruth-crysta...ab=cap-profiles-home https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/202003...-COVID-19-Task-Force
2) The booster study was done by Pfizer and Kaiser and funded by Pfizer. Kaiser works closely with the CDC on covid policy and its Vaccine Study Center director presents at CDC ACIP covid meetings. https://divisionofresearch.kaiserpermanente.o...accine-study-center/

Covid hospitalizations and deaths remain at their lowest winter levels since covid emerged despite minimal uptake of the new booster.

Thank you for pointing this out. There are many who have a vested interest in keeping the covid hysteria going.

Add in Pfizer's interest in pushing testing. While they don't manufacture tests, they do have a stake in increased testing so they can try to offset slumping sales of Paxlovid.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-swings-quarterly-loss-due-paxlovid-write-off-2023-10-31/

Who? Who are these mythical beings who just love the drama. Oh, wait...

Unless you're implying everyone here asking folx to vax and mask is a pfizer shill, you're the one who seems invested in the drama. If you see covid precautions as "hysteria", log off and go suck air indoors for a bit. Unmasked. For science.

Have you ever read Eric Feigl-Ding's Twitter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting seeing all the new "I've got covid" posts popping up now. I wonder how many peeps secretly with they'd vaxxed.

Again, for the millionth time, the vaccines don’t prevent transmission.

That's not entirely true. While the vaccines do not and have never claimed to provide sterilizing immunity, there are studies that have shown a reduction in infection (and transmission), particularly in the weeks following vaccine administration. Here is one example:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02138-x

The CDC acknowledges that the vaccine's protection against infection tends to be "modest and sometimes short-lived."

https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/whats-new/5-things-you-should-know.html#:~:text=COVID%2D19%20vaccines%20provide%20sustained,at%20protecting%20against%20severe%20illness.

Yet regrettably some will still claim the vaccine provides no help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting seeing all the new "I've got covid" posts popping up now. I wonder how many peeps secretly with they'd vaxxed.

Again, for the millionth time, the vaccines don’t prevent transmission.

That's not entirely true. While the vaccines do not and have never claimed to provide sterilizing immunity, there are studies that have shown a reduction in infection (and transmission), particularly in the weeks following vaccine administration. Here is one example:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02138-x

The CDC acknowledges that the vaccine's protection against infection tends to be "modest and sometimes short-lived."

https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/whats-new/5-things-you-should-know.html#:~:text=COVID%2D19%20vaccines%20provide%20sustained,at%20protecting%20against%20severe%20illness.

Yet regrettably some will still claim the vaccine provides no help.

I'm moving to Mexico. People are so healthy down there they can come up with zero vaccines or sanitary control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There is a large increase in wastewater for the entire US including VA a large increase in hospitalizations and an increase in deaths from covid right now. This is the second largest wave since 2020. "You need the updated XBB.1.5 vaccine to be better protected against JN.1. A new study this week from Kaiser Permanente of Southern California and Pfizer shows that prior vaccinations do nothing to protect you against hospitalization with JN.1; only the updated XBB.1.5 vaccine does." This is an updated vaccine and NOT called a booster. It's an entire new shot.


https://drruth.substack.com/p/covid-news-and-more-123023


CDC COVID Wasterwater results broken down by local watershed locations. Much easier to read in this format:
https://www.reddit.com/r/coronavirusVA/commen...a_as_of_dec_29_2023/

The first set of citations are not from neutral sources:
1) The substack author is affiliated with a non-profit centered on "providing solutions for the prevention, diagnostics and treatment of the novel coronavirus". She is not a disinterested party. https://med.stanford.edu/profiles/ruth-crysta...ab=cap-profiles-home https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/202003...-COVID-19-Task-Force
2) The booster study was done by Pfizer and Kaiser and funded by Pfizer. Kaiser works closely with the CDC on covid policy and its Vaccine Study Center director presents at CDC ACIP covid meetings. https://divisionofresearch.kaiserpermanente.o...accine-study-center/

Covid hospitalizations and deaths remain at their lowest winter levels since covid emerged despite minimal uptake of the new booster.

Thank you for pointing this out. There are many who have a vested interest in keeping the covid hysteria going.

Add in Pfizer's interest in pushing testing. While they don't manufacture tests, they do have a stake in increased testing so they can try to offset slumping sales of Paxlovid.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-swings-quarterly-loss-due-paxlovid-write-off-2023-10-31/

Who? Who are these mythical beings who just love the drama. Oh, wait...

Unless you're implying everyone here asking folx to vax and mask is a pfizer shill, you're the one who seems invested in the drama. If you see covid precautions as "hysteria", log off and go suck air indoors for a bit. Unmasked. For science.

the people who think “go suck air indoors” is an insult… just wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting seeing all the new "I've got covid" posts popping up now. I wonder how many peeps secretly with they'd vaxxed.

Again, for the millionth time, the vaccines don’t prevent transmission.

That's not entirely true. While the vaccines do not and have never claimed to provide sterilizing immunity, there are studies that have shown a reduction in infection (and transmission), particularly in the weeks following vaccine administration. Here is one example:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02138-x

The CDC acknowledges that the vaccine's protection against infection tends to be "modest and sometimes short-lived."

https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/whats-new/5-things-you-should-know.html#:~:text=COVID%2D19%20vaccines%20provide%20sustained,at%20protecting%20against%20severe%20illness.

These comments are about the historical covid vaccines, not the new booster. Which is why the CDC only cites reduction in disease severity as the reason to get the new booster and makes no mention of protection again infection or transmission in its Up-to-Date page. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/stay-up-to-date.html